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Christmas at Edhellond: An Elf Academy Tale  by Fiondil 13 Review(s)
AmonyReviewed Chapter: 13 on 12/28/2014
Just to make things clear,Is Gregory having his doctors studying medicine watching Grey's Anatomy??????? and if so....... Atar help us!!!!! :D :D :D

Why were there no more elflings in AMAN since the ice age?? Because as far as I am concerned, the ice age didn't affect any of those in Aman, did it?? and even if it did A LOT of time has already passed since it was over. :D :D I think that now if they saw a pregnant elleth, they would bring her to the mansion of the Elder King where she would be served by Maiar for the rest of her days and the fortunate baby would be adopted by the High King since the moment of their birth :D :D :D :D :D

"MANNY" is a good and fine name for me, I don't actually see what Manwë is upset over :D :D :D

It must have been a shock for Finrod, to learn that the person who took care of him since he was in Mandos suffered such :( I wonder if he would bring it up to Námo if they had a private conversation. But I think Manwë should have asked him first, since it was his story.

Happy Christmas and Happy New Year :D :D :D

Author Reply: Hi Amony. No. They are reading Grey's Anatomy, a classic medical book that all medical students read.

As for your question about no more elflings, the short answer is "despair" and a lost of estel.

And Manwë did not really tell Námo's story, just how he felt about what happened. And how do you know he didn't ask Námo for permission? They can communicate through telepathy after all. *grin*

Happy New Year. Thanks for reviewing.

KittyReviewed Chapter: 13 on 2/6/2013
It would certainly be better to tell Derek's father and Alex's mother sooner rather than later, seeing the problems they are running into with Andy already. There will always something slip that sounds rather strange to them.

Finrod is right, I believe; no matter how many times it is promised that the Maiar will protect their parents, Derek and Alex will still be worried while the two are still in Washington and Oakland.

*grin* Yeah, I can imagine that Galadriel knew pretty well what she wanted and how to get it, and woe to everyone who came in her way or annoyed her somehow.

The Valar are frequenting that café a lot, don't they? Now even Manwë is showing up! But Manny? Honestly?

In any case, I remember the incident he told the two ellyn about. It was horrible to read. Manwë made his point with the bit he told them; hopefully, it will help them both to put their own problems more into perspective.

There haven't been any elflings for that long? Now I am shocked! While I can see why the Elves might think as Finrod said, to me as a Mortal it still sounds silly. Just because they don't know what will happen to them in who knows how many millennia that's no reason not to have children, as long as they can feed them. I can see the older Elves who already had children stop having more, but the new generations should want their own, you'd think.

Author Reply: Hi Kitty. The lack of elflings is a sign of a loss of hope, a malaise that I'm sure Finrod and others, including the Valar, have been trying to fight against. Hopefully Mortals can teach these Elves that hope should never be lost, that hope is what keeps us going against all the odds. Hopefully, that lesson will take, but that is something we won't know about for some time.

Thanks for commenting. I appreciate it.

obsidianjReviewed Chapter: 13 on 1/20/2013
Manny! LOL! I had a friend we called Manny, but I can't reconcile his picture in my head with my imagination of Manwe. I loved the title and the king-to-king conversation in the cafe. So, Finrod decides without telling Glorfindel first? I just hope they can keep civil until Andy and Anne are safely out of earshot...

Author Reply: Hi Obsidanj. "Manny" is a hoot. I'm glad you liked the king-to-king conversation. I'm just glad there actually were three kings. LOL! We'l see how Glorfindel reacts to Finrod's decision soon enough. Thanks for reviewing. It's much appreciated.

Agape4GondorReviewed Chapter: 13 on 1/19/2013
giggle giggle snort snort Manny.... hehehehe

Author Reply: It is funny, isn't it? *grin* Thanks, Agape. Glad you enjoyed this.

UTfrogReviewed Chapter: 13 on 1/18/2013
Somehow I missed reviewing earlier this week. I reread this chapter so I could review before the morning treat of the new chapter. Another good bridging piece. Fluff with the unexpected invitation to Christmas Eve with the elves, followed by very important comments by "Manny". That line about the dusters is hilarious. Thanks.

Author Reply: No problem, UTfrog. Glad you enjoyed the chapter, especially the line about the dusters. Thanks for taking the time to let me know. I appreciate it very much.

bookwormReviewed Chapter: 13 on 1/16/2013
Oh, that's interesting, I wonder why they were all kept from that area during that time (because haha, there is NO WAY that was a coincidence that all of them ~conveniently~ were not at that place at that time)! And that there have been no children born...wow, that's... an awful long time for a society to stagnate, even if you don't age & die. And lol I hope that the Grey's Anatomy they are studying is the book and not the TV show! *sniggers at the image of the Valar as Highlanders* I will never be able to look at Manwe in your stories the same way again XD But I loved that he took the time to talk to em, King to King, if you like. Am also really enjoying how ...almost gently Finrod is exploring the scriptures. Thank you!

Author Reply: Hi bookworm. No, it's no coincidence that the Elves were not at that place at that time. Obviously, whatever was happening in Palestine was for Mortals and the Elves had nothing to do with it. And yes, it is an awful long time for a society to stagnate, though I'm sure, people like Finrod have done what they could to unstagnate their society, which is why I'm sure that many jumped at the idea of returning to Middle-earth.

And they're definitely *not* studying the TV show. LOL!

I thought the whole duster thing and the Highlander reference rather funny. Too bad Finrod didn't get the joke. And it was nice of Manwë to take the time to speak to Amroth and Finrod King to King. I'm sure they appreciated it.

I'm glad you are enjoying this, especially the manner in which Finrod is exploring Scriptures. It's a tricky business and I wasn't sure I was doing it right so as not to offend people's sensibilities. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it very much.

SunnyReviewed Chapter: 13 on 1/15/2013
It sounds s if we're heding for another dustup between Glorfindel and Finrod - Finrod having decided that they should reveal themselves to Alex' mother and Derek's father without asking his gwador if it is a good idea. Oh well, if necessary, the two of them can start a bit early with those anger management classes.
I love the descriptions of Celeborn and Galadriel in this chapter. And also the description of how Galadriel directed that smile of hers at certain members of her father's court. I suppose that when someone is immortal, that makes him or her think that nothing - and nobody - changes. At least until their noses get rubbed into that change. And that aversion towards change will probably be part of the reason why no more children are born in Aman.

Yeah, what is it with the Valar and dusters? It sounds as if this story is turning into a spaghetti western! :-P

Author Reply: Spagehetti Western. LOL! You're probably not too far from the truth, Sunny.

We'll see how Glorfindel reacts to Finrod's decision soon enough.

I'm glad you liked the description of Celeborn and Galadriel. I sort of borrowed her smile from Cate Blanchette in the movies. And you're probably right about aversion toward change being part of the reason forthe lack of children being born in Aman.

Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it very much.

Little MouseReviewed Chapter: 13 on 1/15/2013
Another well done chapter. The Highlander referance made me laugh. :) A writer question for you: how do you calculate the elves ages? For example, if I'm writing a story where an elfling is 6 years old, how do you figure out the equivalent in mortal years? I want to make sure my characters act "age-appropriate", but couldn't figure out how you calculate it!

Author Reply: And you're the first one to even comment on the Highlander reference, Little Mouse. Thanks for noticing it.

As for your question, since Tolkien tells us that Elves come of age at 50, if we accept humans come of age at 21, then the ratio is 0.42(21/50). Therefore if you multiply the age of the Elf by 0.42 you get the human age equivalence, or divide the human age by 0.42 to get the Elven age equivalence. So, for example, an elfing who is 12 years old is the equivalent of a human 5-year old. In your example the elfing would be about 2.5 human years old.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for reading and reviewing. It's much appreciated.

6336Reviewed Chapter: 13 on 1/15/2013
It seems to me that the Elder in Aman have given up on estel, they are just sitting around on their butts waiting for the Dagor Dagorath to happen, wringing their hands and crying Oh, woe is me! We don't have anything to look forward to, so why bother!
To not have children is to my mind a sign of a stagnant civilization, I think some body needs to send a few Maia around to inspire people to have a few elflings, to bring hope to them, that, or a swift kick up said butts! I think Namo needs to have a little chat with a few loremasters and such!

How they have come to be so narrow minded and passive is beyond me, maybe Glorfi should have taken ship, he would have kept things to a slow boil, I am sure?!

Enough rambling,
Huggs,
Lynda

Author Reply: It does sound as if the society in Aman is stagnating, doesn't it? When you are immortal and have no congress with mortals who keep you grounded, it can be very easy, I imagine, to just let things go on as they have and slowly lose any sense of estel, especially when your philosophy does not seem to have room for a belief that there is an afterwards, as is found among many mortal philosophies. Maybe in due time, despite what Manwë says about it, Amroth and Nimrodel's example will help the Amanian Elves to find estel once again. It will be sorely needed before the end.

Thanks for your ramblings, Lynda. They're much appreciated.

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 13 on 1/14/2013
Well chosen carol for the title of this chapter. Love the arrival of Manny and Esther, whose presence is also purposeful, I'm certain. As you can tell from my description of the visit to Lorien by the four young Hobbits in my recent tale, I, too, have noted that the Elves need to find their own estel, and it appears they may find it in their younger siblings the mortals.

Love the chapter!

Author Reply: You may be correct about that, Larner. You find estel where you can and it makes sense that immortals would find it among the mortals. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it.

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