I was rereading chunks of this - and, do you know, I think I love Daeron and Legolas (and their families) even more here for have read more about them in Good Enough.
In fact, I don't want you to finish the story - please make sure you have chapter one of whatever follow-up you choose completed before you finish GE - I need exposure to Daeron's sense of humour to keep me sane.
Author's reply
Rereading this? Gosh, I don't know what to say. Thank you! I'm so glad that you enjoyed it a second time. In 'Serious Trouble' we only get Daeron's POV, so it's a pretty one-sided tale. :>) I had fun getting into everyone else's heads in 'Good Enough' to see what they were thinking.
I do have a one-shot deal that I've written that I'm thinking of posting. I wrote it to get to know Daeron and Seregon's father. I'm not sure exactly what I'll work on next. I have some ideas and outlines jotted down. Hopefully, I won't be as slow in getting the next story written as I was with GE.
Thank you so much for your support. I can't tell you how much it means to me.
Karen
moonshine(moonshine44 on ff.n)
· 29 March 2005
· Chapter 7: Guarded
Wow, that was really sweet. I love this story. You did a wonderful job on it.
Author's reply
Thanks you, moonshine. I'm so glad you enjoyed Legolas and Daeron's adventure. And I'm particularly pleased to see you over here at SoA. This is my favorite place to read and post, and I'm so happy to share it with you. You might come here often, but this is the first time I've bumped into you. Welcome! It was really sweet of you to read this older story. I had a great time writing it and as you know, I still enjoy these characters.
Thank you again for reading and reviewing. I hope to hear from you again.
Karen
lmw
· 17 March 2005
· Chapter 7: Guarded
I'm glad I found this. This was an excellent story! I love 'young legolas' stories, and this one, being told from another point of view , was very interesting. I liked the spider memory. The interaction between the 'boys' and the elleth was priceless. This story shows real family love ( for ficticious elves!) and caring. Age difference may appear to put distance between siblings, but trouble sure brings them closer. I really enjoyed your depiction of that. Well done.
Author's reply
Thank you, Imw. What a nice surprise to get a review for an older story. I like young Legolas stories too. Since so many have been done and many done so well, I attempted to find a different way to see Mirkwood and her ruling family. Daeron was born in order to give me a different 'eye' with which to peek into the palace and the realm. I'm very pleased that you saw the 'love' in this family. I can't help but believe that Legolas was raised with a lot of love and careful attention. The Legolas of the Fellowship had all the qualities of a secure person. He had been well loved.
Thanks again. I can't tell you how pleased I was to get your review. You've made my day.
Karen
Leaward
· 6 March 2005
· Chapter 7: Guarded
"Oh no!" I moaned softly. "We are in serious trouble."
LOL, what an excellent way to end it! Thanks for an excellent, and inspiring, read, Karenator!
Author's reply
No, thank you. I can't believe you read this whole thing in one sitting. Really, that's above and beyond the call of duty. Rangers are made of sturdy stuff!
I can't tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to read and then to review each chapter. Well, that was a doubly nice treat for me.
Thanks again. You've made my day.
Karen
Leaward
· 6 March 2005
· Chapter 6: Regrets, Worries and Revelations
It's so nice to see Thranduil caring for Daeron -- stepping in for his father. What a lovely sight, especially the way he is often treated in fanfic.
And the tears rolled down my face again, but not from laughter this time. You really captured the emotion Daeron felt at hearing how his father died.
What a great writer you are!
Author's reply
Thank you for such a nice compliment. Thranduil thanks you too. He's nothing like he's portrayed sometimes!
In my world of Mirkwood, the royal family is tight. And there's a lot of love. Losing Tarondor was quite traumatic for everyone, but no one felt worse than Thranduil, I don't think. He gave the order to go to Dol Guldur. I imagine he carries a lot of guilt. But he loves Seregon and Daeron like his own sons. I decided that he took male role with Daeron, but he did not usurp Noreth. She's Daeron's mother. I think lots of family conferences go on around the palace. I also didn't think that Noreth would push Seregon to fill the father role. She just wanted Seregon and Daeron to be brothers.
I'm glad you found the scene moving. Especially since I was trying to write it from a child's perspective.
Thanks for all the kind words.
Karen
Leaward
· 6 March 2005
· Chapter 5: Going Home
Oh, where to start?!
"How can people who seem to be good, do bad things?" What a deep question ... along with why do bad things happen to good people. And there never is an answer is there?
"A milky-gray mist was layered on the ground, but it looked as if the day would dawn bright and clear. No breeze stirred the restful quiet of the leaves, but the air was cool, crisp and smelled of the woods in autumn." I love your imagery! What an inspiration you are ...
""About eight," he replied pitifully. He really did look green. Somehow, it was not an appropriate shade even for a Wood Elf." LOL, didn't see that coming!
"It was clear to see: Uncle was in serious trouble." LMAO off again! Thranduil in trouble with 'Naneth' now! Of course, behind every successful man ...
Author's reply
How bad things happen to good people and how can people who seem to be good, do bad things are some of life's mysteries. I pondered this question long and hard. I could only come up with the answer that there was no good answer. I'm sure that was hard for the little guys to comprehend, but they shouldn't feel bad; it's hard for most people to understand.
Thanks for the kind comments about the imagery. Meckinock has to sit on me frequently to keeping me from waxing poetic. I can take off on run on sentences that are a mile long. And be happy as a clam. It's like dancing; I just go with the flow. And then cut most of it out! :>)
Yep. Poor Thranduil. He had no idea what went wrong. But boy, didn't he look good in his warrior duds?
Thanks again, Leaward.
Karen
Leaward
· 6 March 2005
· Chapter 4: In the Woods
Ak! What can I say but wonderful!
Author's reply
Boy, you're a trooper! All I can say is wow! Thanks.
Leaward
· 6 March 2005
· Chapter 3: Secrets
Yup, a tongue can be mightier than a sword too (OK, I know, I changed the analogy, but it still works. Words can cut worse than any knife.)
I had a feeling they would run into "them". But LOL, because of a spider!
Continuing on ... and still enjoying!
Author's reply
Well, yeah. How could they help but run into the men? They'd been scheming and planning for days. And of course, a spider would be there! Poor Daeron. If he could take care of spiders as easily as he can Fluffy, then he'd be in like Flint. But as it is....he's in big trouble now.
Leaward
· 6 March 2005
· Chapter 2: News
I know I'm coming late to the party, but Karen! What a story!
"How much more dull can one get than memorizing Lays about gushy love stories? I did not think anything could be worse until I sat through this meal." What a typical reaction from a youngster! 'gushy love stories indeed!'
Daeron and the Spider story, LMAO! Even Aldamir gets sent to the hall! And Lalaith as well, You literally had me laughing so hard tears were rolling down my cheeks! OH, Shoot! And even Thranduil! Poor poor Daeron.
"..he was trying to decipher a passage of Common Tongue. (Now, there is a language that has no rhyme or reason! It is about as pleasing to the ear as a blade scrapped across stone.)" Since I'm writing about the differences between the two languages I love this analogy!
I'm really looking forward to continuing to read this story .. now I've started I don't think I'm going to be able to stop until I'm done!
Author's reply
Oh my goodness! I can't believe you're reading this! You're so sweet to go to this much trouble. And review, too!
Daeron and the spiders go back a long way. He's never been a fan of the beasties. Even the little garden ones. I drew on personal experience for this scene and his phobia. I wouldn't say I'm terribly phobic, but I do try to keep a respectful distant from spiders. Bite me once....
I remember reading somewhere that English sounds grating to people who are not native speakers. It lacks the flow and beauty of some of the other languages of the world. I suppose compared to oh, say, French, English sounds rather like a fingernails on a blackboard. Then to compare it to Sindarin, I thought English must really sound rough. In the movies, I thought the spoken Sindarin was beautiful.
I'm so pleased that you're enjoying this and really touched that you took the time to go back and read it.
Thanks again.
Karen
HisieLome
· 18 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
Milady, The photo was most appreciated. I can hardly wait for the next tale...Daeron and Legolas are quite wonderful. I know that once your muse is inspired, the tale will be worth it...
Thanks again,
Minna Sedh. Hisie Lome
Author's reply
Fair One,
How it pleases my cold heart that you enjoyed the snapshot. It is the stuff dreams are made of, is it not? I puttered around for a bit this morning on the next tale, but alas, the duty of daily life has called me away for most of the day. Perhaps later tonight I'll get back to it. Thanks again for all your support and kind words. Soon, Fair One, soon. :>) Karen
MetuSa
· 17 May 2004
· Chapter 2: News
This has got to be one of the funniest things that I've read in a loooonnnngggg time! I laughed so hard with the whole spider incident, I almost couldn't finish the chapter! Being somewhat phobic of spiders myself, I can truly imagine the horror of that nasty prank! ;-)
Author's reply
Okay!! Welcome, sister of the spider fright! I can draw a great deal on personal experience when it comes to talking about eight-legged horrors! I was bitten by one once on the shoulder, and the ensuing slowly, creeping numbness across my back and chest was quite a treat. The emergency room bill was enough to finish me off. I'm so glad you enjoyed the prank played on Daeron. Legolas sure did.
I really appreciate you taking the time to review. :>) Karen
Firnsarnien
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
OMG! That was just GRAND! I loved it! Every last word! I'm only sorry that it had to end! Surely, you've plans for another story?
I loved the way you gave Legolas the beginnings of the same power Thranduil has. And I like how he and Daeron tried to figure out why he felt that way about Erelas.
Oh, the way they were scared that the men were being held in the palace, even if it was in the caverns! Though their fear may have been somewhat irrational to the adults, I'm glad you had Thranduil trying to ease the fears of his nephew and son. That was very sweet and touching! And wow...he even had two of his fifteen guarding them. I loved that. It shows how much he values them above all else! LOL
Daeron's fear that night was too cute! I loved how he rushed out into the corridor when the log fell and then tried to calmy explain his reason for doing so to his guard! I love how he and Legolas are trying so hard to be grown up while they are yet Elfings! It's adorable!
*sigh* And Seregon...you've got me crushing on him...seriously! Aldamir too! And Erelas! Whew, I'm glad Erelas is getting better! LOL I got wonderful little heart pangs and toe curls when Seregon picked Daeron up in the corridor then put him to bed. I love how he got Ion for his little brother without comment and stayed with Daeron till he fell asleep. *sigh* So beautiful!
It would be interesting you know, to get a story from Seregon's point of view too! That way, you'd still stay true to the whole concept of telling these stories from the cousin's points of view. Think about it, I think it would be great! ;) And if it'll help, I'll even get on my knees and beg! :)
"Oh no!" I moaned softly. "We are in serious trouble." I loved this line! Absolutely perfect! I've always thought it interesting to see where, in a movie, the title of the movie would be uttered by an actor and by which actor it would be stated. And I've got to say, in this story, the title couldn't have been uttered by a more perfect Elfling! Wonderful way to wrap this up! And get us all laughing! LOL :)
I sure hope you write more of these stories! I've grown to really love Daeron and his relationship with his brother, and of course with Legolas and his brothers! You've created wonderful OC and not many can do that well! So take a bow, after this story, you sure deserve it! :)
Here's to more stories from you, hopefully! :) *fingers crossed*
Author's reply
What a great review! I'm so happy you liked this last installment.
It seemed to me as I read the books and especially as I watched the movies, that Legolas had a sixth sense about the movement of the orcs and the shadow in general. I'm not sure if all Elves were so attuned to the creeping evil, but it makes sense to me that Thranduil would be particularly aware of the realm and that his sons would share his ability to sense the well-being of the forest. Legolas is just beginning to recognize this ability and doesn't quite know what to make of it yet. I'm not sure if he truly sensed that something was going to happen to Erelas, or if he merely felt the first stirring of his connection to the woods and thought of Erelas, and his brother's wounds were just coincidence. At any rate, he was quite puzzled by the whole thing.
Thranduil does value the little guys, and I think he chose the warriors he did, because he knows he can trust them without question. Even though the little guys think they've really grown up, I think they were glad to have the guards. And the scene in the corridor with Ohtar was one of my favorite scenes to write. I'm so glad you liked it.
Well, I could probably seriously crush on 'Serious' Seregon, too. He's been battling his own demons for so long, he'd lost touch with Daeron. Now that they have grown closer, I think he really enjoys the little mite and wants to ease his fears. And if you can't cuddle with Seregon, at least one can always turn to a ragged, stuffed horse for comfort. I think we both know which one I would chose. :>)And I really like the idea of writing from Seregon's perspective. I'll file that away for future reference.
I'm beginning to putter around with a new tale. What little I've written, I've done in third person, but I don't think Daeron's going to allow that. He's been raising a ruckus! It looks like I'm going to have to start over. But, I'll do my best to not take too long.
Thank you so much for all your fun and thoughtful reviews. You have really made this journey worthwhile for me. Karen
Kitt of Lindon
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
It shocked me a bit that they had captured some of the men and they were actually in their home. I do not blame Daeron and Legolas for being frightened. (Personally, I would not have slept a wink.)
Oh, and Erelas recovering gladens me!
I am a bit sad this had to end. Ah, but it was such a good ending. (How serious of trouble, I wonder?)
Author's reply
I think I would have been a little unnerved by the men being held in the same place I was, too. If, and that's an 'if', Thranduil had dungeons, then they must have been in the lower levels of the Stronghold. In The Hobbit, Bilbo and company were held below and escaped with the wine barrels. Without creating a whole new place as a prison--which I don't think the Elves would have had as a rule--then the logical place to imprison the men was down below. I imagine that the men were secured quite far away from the living quarters. But like you, I would not have slept a wink either.
Erelas is going to be fine. It's a dangerous job out in the forest. It's probably not his first wound and most likely not his last. But, he's a trooper!
Thank you for all your reviews. I'm so glad you enjoyed the story. It was fun for me to write and to post. Such wonderful reviews, such as yourself, make it all worthwhile. Thanks again, Karen
Hisie Lome
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
Milady Karen,
Truly you have a gilded touch with this tale. The innocence of children is quite well illustrated in their hopes for the frog's further comforts and the "healthy respect" for the guards. I loved how all strived to help the elflings feel more at ease. Ion was such a lovely touch. If only the King could understand the sweetness of the lordlings attempts at fellowship with members of the forest….Mayhap, his ire would not be so deep.
This has been such as lovely tale. Tis a pity that it has ended. As always, I look forward to more.
I most humbly apologize for my most recent error in judgment. I was only concerned for your health and well being. When one dwells too much on the problems of the realm, it is only to be expected! Forgive me my familiarity, one must keep up her strength and resolve, Milady. Yet, the fair countenance of the elder Thranduilion leads me to distraction. The stars, you say… Ah, to cast yon gaze skyward. Thank the Valar! You are most assuredly correct that the realm will stay safe because of such warriors. Karen your fine gifts will forever be treasured. If only I had been so forthright and took such an opportunity as you yourself . Again, I look to you in wisdom.
Minna Sedh, Hisie Lome
Author's reply
Hail, Fair Hisie,
I think the little guys are still quite innocent despite their recent run-in with the men. But they are at that odd juncture of moving to the next step toward adulthood...the terrible teens or thirties for an elf, I suppose. Still, they're young enough to really get into whether a frog is warm or not. I'm not sure the good king stopped to consider how 'in touch with the woodlands' the little scamps were when Kermit took a stroll across the banquet table. As the Ranger Meckinock said, "It was the return of The Throbbing Vein'. Thranduil probably had a throbbing headache, too. Maybe Lalaith will know what to do to ease the king's discomfort. ;>)
Oh, dear child. There is no need for apologies. How could you have known I was slyly watching the fair elder Thranduilion through the lens of my Pentax? I trust you enjoyed the snapshot I sent? Just remember when opening any of daw's stories...it's always a Kodak moment. :>) (Just in case daw reads this, let me say that it 'is' an inside joke and one that is very complimentary to your Ithilden!) *Tugs at collar. Is the air conditioner on in this place?*
Thanks you Hisie Lome for all your fine reviews. I have truly enjoyed hearing from you and reading your notes. It's been such fun for me. I'm so glad you enjoyed the tale. Keep in touch!
Karen
fliewatuet
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
I know that it is a bit late for delurking now that the story is finished, but I'd like to let you know just how much I enjoyed it. First of all, I loved the combination of humour and drama, very well done. Then I loved the tone of it. You did a marvellous job at telling it from the perspective of a child both in tone and in Daeron's unique perception of the adult world around him. Not to mention Daeron's still very child-like fears -- I had a hard time keeping a straight face when reading the deamon-beneath-the-bed bit and the resulting encounter with Ohtar outside his chambers -- though, of course, Daeron sees himself as quite grown up.
fliewatuet
Author's reply
Goodness, no! It's never too late for such a nice review. I'm so pleased you enjoyed it. I have a lot of experience with little male units, but I never know if I have captured the 'kid' without losing the 'elf'. I really appreciate your words of encouragement. My favorite scene to write was the one with Ohtar and Daeron. I have to admit, I would probably be just as nervous as Daeron if I knew the 'bad guys' were being held right under my feet. I so glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks again, fliewatuet. Delurk anytime. :>)
Karen
Nilmandra
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
You are reminding me of the time I brought a salamander inside the house. I don't recall my mother enjoyed it crawling its way around the kitchen either. I don't recall bringing a frog in the house, alhtough I did find other uses for them. There are great ways to torment brothers - although, I suppose Ereleas, Sergeon and Aldamir would not be the least put off.
It was fun to see the elflings being guarded - having the 'prison' located in your home did have to be a scary thing. On residencey, we stayed in what amounted to dormitories on the top wing of a mental hospital. The locked ward for dangerous patients was not far away, and having been tossed against the wall by a male patient one day, I wasn't too thrilled knowing he was in the building I was sleeping in!
Those men likely went home more scared of elves than they started! Good thing, too.
I also liked how Legolas could sense the forest.
Author's reply
LOL! I think you would fit right in with these budding Steve Irwin wannabes. Nilmandra/salamander...it has a certain ring to it.
It 'would' be a little strange to have the local pokey in your basement. It would certainly unnerve me. I did my time in a psych ward, too...no, I was not the patient. While I felt for the people there, it could be a bit daunting. Luckily, I was never smashed by one of the patients...but don't think I didn't keep my distance!
I think you're right about the men going home with a whole new view of Elves. A healthy respect, as Daeron would say.
Thanks for your reviews and for your support, Nilmandra. I really do appreciate it.
Karen
daw the minstrel
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
These two can't keep out of trouble for long! I could see frog trouble coming but having it emerge at a formal dinner was beyond what I had imagined.
Daeron's fear was touching, and he does seem to have made peace with his brother, at least for a while. I like the way you show us the reactions of the adults even when Daeron can't quite make them out.
I have to feel sorry for the Men. They were deceived and they paid dearly.
Author's reply
You know, I felt bad for the men, too. I really don't think they were evil, just terribly mislead. Happens a lot in real life too, I suppose. Even good people do bad things and often for what they think is a good reason. For these men, the cost was high.
I don't think Daeron completely 'got it' that he was cracking up Ohtar or that his little ruse was a big flop. It's been a challenge to let the adult reactions come through Daeron's filters, but it's been fun for me. I'm glad they were evident.
I think trouble will always follow Daeron and Legolas. They don't mean to be magnets; they just are. I see them as fairly happy, well-adjusted kids who simply embrace life and get caught in the webs they spin--or the frogs they bring home. I imagine Thranduil was a little miffed when the frog went on a stroll, and the cider was flying. It's hard to be king!
Thank you, daw, for all your reviews and kind words. I appreciate your support more than you can know. Karen
meckinock
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
Lovely finish to a great story, Karen. The Return of the Throbbing Vein. Poor Thanduil's gonna have an stroke before he gets these kids raised. Fortunately Lalaith seems to be cool as a cucumber in all situations. Modeled on anyone we know or just wishful thinking? Should we canvass the efling contingent at Chez Karenator and find out?
I think my favorite scene this time was Ohtar and Daeron in the hallway; Daeron trying to bluff his way out of admitting he's just scared himself half to death and Ohtar trying like the dickens to keep a straight face.
Well, now that I've fallen in love with your royal household I hope you will write more about them soon. Your Thanduil with his throbbing vein and soft heart is just wonderful, and you know I would particularly like to see more of Aldamir, Seregon, and Erelas! And I think we need to keep those little elfling scamps around for some comic relief...
mrk
Author's reply
Thanks, Ranger, but without you I'd still be back trying to moralize what the rescue team was doing. Your input has been beyond measure...as Thranduil would say.
Yes, he is the king of The Throbbing Vein. And no, Lalaith is not modeled on me, though there are some behaviors shared by all mothers. I couldn't stand that messy bed of Erelas' and just had to have her set it right.
I'm glad you got a kick out of the corridor scene with Ohtar. I think that he's really a pretty good guy under that stern exterior. And he has a daughter so he knows how 'tricksy' kids can be. Daeron didn't fool him for second.
The next installment is being mixed in my underground laboratory at this moment. You'll be the first to know when it's soup. I'd like to see more of the older brothers, too. I'm just tring to figure out how I'm going to do it. (Now where is that wolfbane and toad toes?)
Thank you again for all your long, hard labor and support. You have the patience of a saint and the disposition of a.....scared you there, didn't I? :>) I can't say thank you enough, Karen
Elena Tiriel
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
Ah, Karenator, this is a truly delightful story! I love seeing the world - a messy, confusing place - through the eyes of Daeron. He is a jokester, but unusually observant for one so young.
I enjoyed basking in the warmth of the family relationships here, especially between the brothers. Daeron and Seregon both seemed to have learned and grown in just the space of a few days...
Please carry on, my dear lady! Your fans are clamoring for a sequel!
Author's reply
Hi Elena Tiriel,
The world is a messy place, isn't it? Daeron and Legolas have just had a crash course in some of the intrigues of men and Elves. You're right about Daeron being a bit of a jokester, but he does have a keen eye and an analytical mind. I think the extra years of experience an elfling has gives them a broader world view than a human child of equivalent age. But, he's still a kid--with a bit of a warped window on the happenings around him--or maybe a clearer window. I think his observations are often quite on target, but not always since he does lack the maturity to see perfectly.
I so glad you enjoyed the story. The brotherly relationships have grown. It took some serious rattling of their cages for Daeron and Seregon to see each other in a different light, but I think the most important thing they found out was how much they truly do love one another and how this bond can change the way they respond to each other. Things may not always be smooth sailing, but they know each other a little better now.
Thank you again. Karen
Jules
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
Thank you for another wonnderful chapter. It was a great ending but I do not want it to end. Sequel perhaps? Please please please. These 2 are sure to have many more adventures while growing up.
Thanks for writing
Jule
Jules
· 16 May 2004
· Chapter 7: Guarded
Thank you for another wonnderful chapter. It was a great ending but I do not want it to end. Sequel perhaps? Please please please. These 2 are sure to have many more adventures while growing up.
Thanks for writing
Jule
Author's reply
Hi Jule,
I had to laugh when I saw your double post. I've posted two or three times in the course of trying to get one review up! But I decided to just think of yours as a double dip!
I'm so glad you enjoyed the tale. It was a lot fun for me to write, and I'm so pleased that people have read it and responded. Thank you.
I'm contemplating the next one. Right now I'm trying to decide exactly who will tell the story or if I'll just go to third person. Daeron is highly incensed that I would even consider such a thing and keeps trying to tell me his version. I'm not as quick as daw (wish I was!) but I'll get it on it as soon as I figure out whose story this is.
Thanks again, Karen
Hisie Lome
· 1 May 2004
· Chapter 6: Regrets, Worries and Revelations
Karen,
I love having Saturday morning coffee and reading your tale. However, as I am prone to being a blithering idiot and having the grace of a drunk drawf prior to my daily ration of Starbuck's kicking in , if you recieve a very strange review that is only half way sensible, it is because I hit the wrong button and my last review disappeared.
Well, I will try this again...
As always, the Valar have the most interesting senses of humor in the morning and often test my metal to see if I will overcome this daily sleep haze and actually begin to function!
How do you get into Daeron's head and heart so well? I found it rather touching that he was tired of the constant adult attentions; yet, unknowingly this elfling craved the touch of his uncle and Seregon. ( Although- he still does not want anyone to know the role that the evil spider played in the whole affair.)
Also, that Daeron felt warmth by being called , "My child", by Thranduil was nice. Thranduil as "uncle" and not "king" was well displayed. THe fatherly Thranduil would try to give comfort to the children .The nightmares were to be expected, and for some time as well.
I thought it poignant that Daeron felt remorse about his role in the death of the man. These gray matters of morality take many years to sort. But that Aldamir's arrow was the needed was evident.
I also felt it funny about Thranduil never giving punishment, only consequences...I use that one on a daily basis. Lol! the king’s
son scrubbing ladies unmentionables and the new knowledge of botany seemed to be things that in the future a wise warrior simply would never admit to. The fact that Erelas recognized this consequence must give one the hint that he also has had some major errors in judgement in his youth....
Erelas being hurt was sad. So much angst for these young ones! What a retched person you must be....I had to actually get off my couch and get a refill of coffee just to not become upset! Actually, my coffee had gone cold and I was thinking of some rather unladylike terms to share with your muse about this most unfortunate event. But even then I was amused that Daeron was concerned
that Erelas had to drink that nasty tasting medicine.
Seregon's guilt over his adar's death was moving. One wonders just how much these feelings have shaped this elf. That Daeron would seek his brother and cry without fully knowing why again demonstrates how distraught and fragile the young one feels. That
Seregon had to reassure his brother that warriors try to be safe was most sad.
Yes, I think that Tarondor could sense his elfling's fea. Daeron just does not realize his adar's presense has always been a part of his life.
Thank you for all of your hard work....
Mina Sedth, Hisie Lome
P.S. Thanks for your email about "Forgotten War". I do not know if I ever actually sent your reply. Please forgive me if I was
remiss. I have had such a trail with technology this year (one stolen laptop, two major virus', and a failed hard drive on My Brand NEW was laptop)
So here the data you requested: with sourced information.
http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar/
http://www.rialian.com/quenya-english.htm#n
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/2196/
http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/qcourse.htm
Mina Sedth= Seek peace,
I believe that this is silvan and I took this from a tale about southern protol warriors. I can't for the life of me figure why
the ending would be "th", most often Sindar and Silvan end in "dh" . I may begin to just use the Sindarian spellings...Less
confussion.
Minna (sindar) = enter
Sidh (sindar) =peace
Cundunya= Prince Mine, Quenyan and is very formal.
Cund (sindar)= prince
Nin (sindar)= of me or mine
Cundu (quenya)= prince
nye (quenya arct) for me
nya (quenya)= me, mine
It is a term of respect, yet also implies a strong sense of brotherhood (and ownership)....Yes, you are my prince, but only because once again I have pulled the arrow out of your side, stitched you up, and managed not to strangle you for all of your foolishness-AGAIN! When I TELL your father.....he will not be amused.
Minna Sedh, Hisie Lome
Author's reply
Hi Hisie Lome,
It's so good to hear from you. And you're still a trooper! After all the trouble you've had with your computers and then to have another review vanish into thin air...well, I can'tell you how good it makes me feel that you go to the trouble of doing it again. I truly enjoy them.
Daeron really likes having the father-figure in Thranduil, but I think it also magnifies the loss of his own adar sometimes. Up until now, he's probably missed his adar, but he's facing making big decisions in his life (like becoming a warrior) and we all know how the transtition from child to teenager to adult can try even the most patient, so he's become acutely aware of not having his adar there with him. Now that Seregon has finally admitted to himself the demons that have plagued him, I think he'll be more available for Daeron. Daeron finds he likes this caring side of Seregon.
Consequences...yep, me too. I'm an expert punishment-wielding nana, and I call it consequences, too. I learned that from Thranduil. I imagine that Erelas spent some time dipping out wash pots himself. He's pretty knowledgable about how the whole thing works. Thranduil knows what a gem he has in the laundry in Morwen. She can make the importance of the forest and the wood elves' lifestyle come alive in her tales.
I think the time will come when Daeron recognizes his adar's presence has always been with him, too. It may take some time and maturity before this happens. And I think it'll take something important to jar him in suddenly realizing this.
I'm certain you will find support that I'm a terribly wretched person. Just ask my sons...the ones who know all about consequences. Yes, Erelas met up with some nasty blade wielders, and they did some damage. It's another reality that has come home for the little guys. It's dangerous out there. But I'm glad you recognize that it's my muse and not me. Feel free to let him have it anytime you wish. I do so regularly. He's one of the 'little people'. His name is Elendv and since he's so short, I'll hold him for you. :>)
Thank you for all the reference pages. I can't wait to zip over and look at them. I've not been able to find any I thought were very helpful and these look promising.
Thanks again for reading and reviewing. I'm so please you hung in there with me during my 'silent period'. I hope the last chapter won't take me so long to get up. Karen
meckinock
· 1 May 2004
· Chapter 6: Regrets, Worries and Revelations
FQK -
Sorry about the review delay - it's just lucky I had to check in at Chaos Central today or it might have been Monday before I got this out! I should also mention that our building is conducting a test of the intercom system today so I've been listening to some guy count to 20 repeatedly since about 6 AM - in the likely event that this ends up being completely incoherent that's my excuse...
The thing I always enjoy about your writing is the effortless transition between wise-cracking humor and in-depth character analysis. The character relationships and thematic elements are subtly woven into the plot developments and are as complex, contradictory, and constantly evolving as are real life ones. This is Daeron's story; but Daeron is far from the only character to gain a new awareness of himself, his family members, and his place in the scheme of things. I think a lot of people would have doubted that anyone could produce such a multi-layered, complex character piece from the mouth of a smart-ass pre-adolescent narrator, but my lady, you nailed it! The care taken to flesh out villains as well as heroes; minor characters as well as major ones, is impressive, as was the attention to minor details. I was personally struck by the realism of one casual moment between Aldamir and Seregon upon receiving the news of Erelas's injury; Aldamir wordlessly tilts the letter so Seregon can see it even before showing it to Thranduil. This such a realistic, understated, and matter-of-fact gesture for close comrades to make, yet so fleeting in the face of the overwhelming gravity of the situation that it would have been overlooked by many writers. I would love to see more of these two in action, by the way!
If you don't hear from me before Monday, blame AT&T!
mrk
Author's reply
Wow! Ranger friend, what a nice review. I'm glad Chaos Central is on-line so you could drop in. I'm pleased that Daeron's mouth hasn't stopped him from seeing some of the 'bigger picture' of life. He's still young and all of this new found knowledge might take a little while to sink it, but at least he's paying attention. I think Aldamir and Seregon are very close...as close as their younger brothers, but with a lot more time under their belts. I think they can read each other like books. I wasn't sure exactly when to have Aldamir show the letter to Seregon. It seemed the king should be informed first, but I couldn't see Aldamir just sitting there next to Seregon and not clueing him in. Seregon is Aldamir's second in command after all, and he should be right at the top of the list of who gets told quickly. It seemed natural for Aldamir to just simply tilt the note so that Seregon could see it. They are the ones who deal with the every day command of the troops, and it was a military matter...as well as a family matter. I'm glad you found this realistic. I hope we'll get to see these two in action in the next chapter, though it's sort of 'behind closed doors', and we might just have to use our imaginations a little bit...okay, a lot. However, I think these two are a formidable pair, and I'd love to see them loosing arrows and wielding swords, too. I have to run the next chapter by my beta plot hole detective first--I think you know her. She knows a lot about these things, you see.
Really, Ranger, this was such a nice review. If this story is anywhere near as well done as you say, then you should take a bow. I could not do it without your input and support. You keep me focused and not off chasing wargs. Thank you for all your help. And thank you for taking the time go over this thing...again and then review. Above and beyond the call of duty, if you ask me. BTW, I think Aldamir has his eye on you. He's says it's strictly a professional interest, but I saw the way he looked at you....
Thanks again for everything, Karen
Maeglin the Traitor
· 30 April 2004
· Chapter 6: Regrets, Worries and Revelations
Most honored Queen Kaladriel,
I have but a short time before I must ride out with Lalaith the Avenger. I take quill in hand to review this last chapter before I depart. Have also penned a note to my next of kin, always a wise precaution I find when accompanying Lalaith.
What an intense chapter! It lulls you into a certain sense of peace and "it's over" and then grabs you by the throat yet again. The entire segment with the wounding of Erelas was beautifully done. The moment when Lalaith grew pale broke my heart with only a few simple words of description. You have a talent for conveying much in very few words. I loved also the small question Legolas breathes to Daeron, "what if he dies?" as summing up all of the elfling's terror in four small words. I also loved when Daeron and Legolas are being taken to Erelas' room and Daeron says, "I simply did not seem to be getting enough air as I wrestled with my fear of seeing Erelas wounded, and my overwhelming desire to see him." Perfect. A child's reaction coupled with the beginnings of adult courage.
Loved the scenes where Daeron questions Seregon about the death of their father. Seregon's character is becoming increasingly layered as you continue the story. The almost too perfect warrior is revealing the conflict he has lived with, his father dead because of him, his little brother bereft of the father he knew. It is a heavy burden, but he shows signs of finally accepting it and moving on to be the support his little brother needs.
I hear Lalaith summoning me and she is not patient as we both well know. I bid you a fond farewell, my lady, until your next chapter.
Maeglin the Traitor
Author's reply
My sweet elfling,
What patience you have. Lalaith is so...determined when she sets her mind. I think I have calmed her for the time being. Let us hope that no further news come to her ears that will upset her. Do keep your eye on her...the frog thing, you know. It just fuels that 'elf-witch' thing.
I'm so glad you enjoyed the chapter. I think I enjoyed most trying to let Seregon uncover his innermost fears and give Daeron a glimpse into what has driven him all these years. I'm not sure Daeron completely gets it at this point, but he has the beginnings of an understanding about his stern older brother. I think Seregon is finally beginning to face it himself. Guilt is a heavy burden. I also think Seregon would be most pleased if Daeron decided to not be a warrior and decide instead to grow daisies or something less dangerous. He just realized how frightening it will be to have his brother face danger.
Legolas and Daeron have had a lot to deal with. Things have really gone to pot, and the little guys are being exposed to such difficult issues for the first time. I doubt that Mirkwood has been sailing along without any bumps before this, but these two have been too young to know exactly what was going on. When they got into the thick of things this time, they got in head first.
Thank you for reviewing. I know Lalaith keeps you busy, but you are always such a wonderful support for this queen. And I want my time with you, too!
Kaladriel
Orophins Dottir
· 30 April 2004
· Chapter 6: Regrets, Worries and Revelations
*Lalaith struggles back to consciousness as Maeglin continues to pat her hand in concern. She glares at all of Arda.*
"Whoever did this to Erelas will have Lalaith to deal with! Maeglin, saddle horses and forget about a palfrey for this Queen. Bring me Fuin and tell that horse not to give you an argument! *Starts looking around for that battleaxe Gimli gave her this past Yule. She knew it would come in handy.*
Sister, an excellent chapter! What is that dreadful Chinese curse, "may you live in interesting times"? Seems to have descended on us in Mirkwood.
Dear, no offense but, if you continue to describe Thranduil so appealingly, he will start to receive missives from fangirls, and I may be forced to take steps. Turning elleths into frogs does get one such a reputation, however much the little twits may deserve it!
I do love the character of Morwen. So much so that I shall inevitably have to "borrow" her one day! Warm, wise and shrewd. I can well see Queen Luinil being close friends with the head of the laundry.
Your "minor" characters are always quite fine. In this chapter, I love how Borgil, the dour and stern tutor, shows a gentle side while keeping the worried elflings distracted. Even the not too introspective Daeron seems to have a glimmer of what Borgil is doing. Daeron's not perfect perception of Borgil's actions was a delicate and lovely touch to your story. Our little scamp is indeed growing up, perhaps faster than we might wish.
Well, I see Maeglin is bringing the horses, so we must be off now. Sister, you will understand if I am forced to obliterate whichever of your characters harmed my son?
Ever,
Lalaith
Author's reply
Maeglin, my sweet elfling, take the horses back to the stable. Maeglin huffs and turns around to lead the horses back from whence he came.
Lalaith, dear, the vile creature who harmed your son is already deader than a doornail. Your son needs you at his side, not off chasing corpses. The king's border patrol is more than capable, Sistah. Calm yourself. Put the axe back in the corner. Slowly, Lalaith, slowly.
And no more frogs! Lalaith, my dear sistah, you cannot continue to turn every elleth who looks upon your husband into amphibians. The king has eyes for no one but his beautiful lady wife. Whew....I am growing weary here. I think I shall just sit down for a moment. Too much excitement. Turns to a servant who has the misfortune to be passing, "Fetch some of the king's finest red for two overwrought queens. Will you, dear?"
I like Morwen, too. I think she was not just an accomplished lady with thread and cloth, but a very good friend for the queen. I think she would love an expanded role. It gets tiresome just sitting around the laundry.
I'm so glad you like the minor characters and their roles. Borgil's not a bad guy. The little guys just see him as a stern taskmaster, but he's a very caring and kind Elf. But you know how hard it can be to keep those little minds on the task at hand?
I so appreciate the review. I know it's upsetting to you to see your beloved child harmed, but the healers are confident that he will be well soon. Look, there comes the servant with your glass of Dorwinion. Now sit here next to me and tell me if you've heard any new gossip.
Your loving sistah, Kaladriel