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The Karenator · 12 April 2004 · Chapter 10: Good Neighbors

Well, I didn't see that coming...or is it Tuilinn going? Ah, the mystery elleth. From somewhere up north. I don't think she's gone for good. (Is she?) She'll pop back up when Legolas least expects it. (Won't she?) I was glad to see Beliond show up. I mean really...what was Thranduil thinking sending Legolas off without his 'shadow'? He's such a lovable grouch. And so good at putting Tinar in his place. I don't think that Elf has a brain cell that fires right. He's dumber than a dead tree limb. You'd think he would have caught on by now. Guess not. Of course, Beliond will have everyone set straight if given the time and opportunity. He has his 'speech' prepared already. I don't think I've mentioned lately how much I love Beliond...so just for good measure... I'm looking forward to returning to the palace. I guess Legolas will get back in time to witness Storm Thranduil blowing through. So much for a relaxing few days before he has to return to his patrol. I have a feeling he'll be ready to battle orcs. Much less threatening... Good chapter, daw. Forgive me for not getting to the other two I missed while away, but when this new chapter went up, I decided to just get in the current groove. But, they were a pleasure to read as always. Okay, I've got my front row seat ready. Let the fireworks begin. :>) Karen

Author's reply

Karen-- you have been such a kind, consistent reviewer that you are excused from reviewing anything you don't feel like reviewing!! The fun part of making Tuilinn go away is that I can use her again or not, depending on how I feel. It would be fun to have her show up at an inopportune moment for Legolas. Thranduil probably thought he was sending Legolas off on a safe, if slightly tense, mission. Beliond will have to let him know how mistaken he was. And the king will be in such a good mood to hear it too!

LOTRFaith · 12 April 2004 · Chapter 10: Good Neighbors

Sigh..... So Legolas and Tuilinn are not meant to be.. (Yes!) lol... I am very glad to hear about Legolas not well you know... lol... Anyr frustrates even me.. He reminds me of someone that I know who is like that rather unknowingly... He doesn't realise the things that he says are so well vauge... lol... But anyway... Legolas is going home:-) Am happy...

Author's reply

Legolas should arrive home some time around mid-day. That means that there has been the whole morning for Eilian to break his news and for Thranduil and the rest of the family to react. I suspect Legolas will find things somewhat less settled than they usually are in his home!

ANA · 12 April 2004 · Chapter 10: Good Neighbors

Yeh, Beliond! So nice to have him around again, if only to annoy 'Lord' Legolas to distraction, and to put Tinar in his subserviant place. I am glad you have solved the mystery of the stolen food - what a couple of clowns those thieves were. I couldn't help but laugh as I was reading their little encounter with Legolas. They are lucky to escape without arrow holes in them. Legolas is really a sweet, little softie, isn't he? I mean, to feel guilty about his rough treatment of the thieves. I guess that's why we all love him so much. A very entertaining chapter. P.S. I wouldn't mind being around too when Beliond lectures Thranduil about the irresponsibility of sending Legolas off on a mission without his 'nana'. Really, what was Thranduil thinking of?!

Author's reply

Beliond turned out to be a lot of fun to write about even though he was grouchy. And then, he immediately knew what Legolas was feeling about Tuilinn. I think he knows Legolas pretty well by now and has a lot of affection for him. Bad tempered Legolas is actually oddly appealing. Something must be wrong with me if I think that! Somehow, I don't think Thranduil is going to be in the mood to be lectured by anyone. ;-)

naneth · 12 April 2004 · Chapter 10: Good Neighbors

Daw, this was a *great* chapter! There was so much to love about it that I couldn't name all of the things that I love without repeating the entire chapter. Thank you for bringing Beliond into this story! He was just the comic relief needed in this chapter. Poor Legolas. Tuilinn was the perfect "love" interest for him. You did well with that...I don't remember anyone saying that they hate her! I'm glad that he was able to take a moment of happiness with her. I think I have fallen in love with your newest version of Legolas-the king's son is much to be admired (and not too bad to look upon, either!).

Author's reply

Thank you, naneth. Nilmandra begged for Beliond to appear and then he turned out to be great grouchy fun. I'm just glad I'm not Legolas, who has to live with the guy most of the time. I don't think Tuilinn was around long enough to be hated, but still, I take that as victory! And masterful, royal Legolas is really pretty compelling, I find. I'll have to show him more often.

Jay of Lasgalen · 12 April 2004 · Chapter 10: Good Neighbors

Great to see Legolas being masterful again - he was great with the thieves. The fact that he enjoyed pushing them around, then felt guilty, was a nice touch. Tinar hasn't learned, has he? He still argues about orders! I hope someone pushes him in the river on the way to Esgaroth. I liked Legolas carefully not looking as Tuilinn changed, but I was right to be concerned when he couldn't find her. Maybe in your next story he goes in search of her. BTW, it always sounds odd to me when you call her a 'caretaker'. It makes perfect sense as she is one who takes care of the children, but in the UK a caretaker is what you'd call a janitor. It makes me see her in blue overalls carrying a mop ;)

Author's reply

In the US, a caretaker is someone who looks after a property for the owner. Tuilinn would be a babysitter or day care worker, but I wanted a word that would seem slightly foreign to us, and 'caretaker' seemed a likely candidate! My beta wants very bad things to happen to Tinar. I think that's appropriate. I just haven't decided what they should be yet.

Legolas4me · 12 April 2004 · Chapter 10: Good Neighbors

on ff.net it said that you updated but the chapter was not available! How irratating! That was an excellent chapter! I do hope that Thranduil is proud of Legolas. He has certainly worked hard on his vacation! I am also anxious to see what happens with the Eilian and Celuwen situation!

Author's reply

Thranduil will either be so distracted by Eilian that he won't even notice that Legolas has returned, or he'll be in such a bad mood that he swats everyone in his way. Or maybe Eilian has made Legolas look good! What are brothers for? ;-)

French Pony · 12 April 2004 · Chapter 10: Good Neighbors

Oh, but Legolas does know somebody who hates the niceties of diplomacy more than Beliond. That would be his own dear middle brother, the one who thinks with the head that does not sit on his shoulders. But I rather enjoy the niceties of diplomacy on occasion, and I like that little fudging to account for the exchange without calling it regulated trade. Mountie Legolas has gotten his Men with flair and style. Sadly, looting often follows upon the heels of disaster. I wonder if there is an Elf equivalent to the National Guard that can be called out to keep the peace in situations like this. This time, all was well only by virtue of Legolas happening to be in the right place at the right time. But sending the National Guard out to disaster areas might have prevented the looting to begin with. Hmm. Maybe Thranduil will form one and place the new bridegroom at the head of it. Count on Beliond to turn up just in the nick of time, like the cavalry. His appearance came thisclose to smacking of deus ex machina, but I think you explained it well enough that it is safe from that. And Tuilinn vanishes, much like Captain Kirk's various and sundry alien babes, because The Hero cannot be tied down for long. . . If you feel that my rant to Sólith was worth saving, then go right ahead with it. It's just common sense, though, from one who knows.

Author's reply

I believe you are right, FP! Eilian probably is more impatient with diplomacy than Beliond is. He might enjoy it if it felt like a game, but he wouldn't have much patience for careful word choice. In all truth, Beliond is there because my beta begged to see him again. And I was glad she did because he provided most of the comic relief for the chapter. I think Legolas probably could have managed without him, but it was nice for Beliond to see him in full princely mode. Thranduil will undoubtedly have plans for Eilian once I get to that chapter, which is next.

The Karenator · 12 April 2004 · Chapter 7: Night Meetings

Gosh daw, I go away for a week and look what I come home to! Eilian has gone got himself bonded! I'll get to that in a moment. Legolas has certainly handled himself well in a most difficult situation. Not only has he dealt with the settlement Elves and men as fairly as possible, he has stepped up to claim his own feelings about the shadow and serving in the southern most regions of his land. Or, at least, he articulated them beautifully to Tuilinn. It seems maturity is greeting him at every turn. Tuilinn is right; Thranduil does have a lot to be proud of in his youngest child. I like this maiden who has caught his eye. She seems to bring out a peaceful place in him with her calm and wise presence. She understands his position in a way no other maiden has despite her having lived and, I assume grown up, in such a different environment than he has. It would be a most difficult relationship to maintain due to geography but it would also be one worth trying to cultivate. Tuilinn has many qualities that I suspect would be much like his own mother's. Now that wild child! I can't say I blame Eilian and Celuwen for the decision they made. They have overcome difficult hurdles to see this love survive. I can also see that Thranduil will be vein-popping mad. Not angry that Eilian chose Celuwen (he does like her and thinks she's good for his difficult child) but that he would be angry that Eilian dismissed the protocol of Elvish binding...and without proper parental consent. This is a time for Eilian to finally stand up to his adar...not in a disrespectful way...but in the way a husband should protect his wife. He and Celuwen are adults and made a decision born out of love. I can't see Thranduil denying the importance of this bond and I think in the end, when the dust settles, he will be proud of his son's strength. (I hope!) Celuwen was not coerced in any way that I can see. Once she was certain of his intent, she was right with the plan. She's no wilting violet, but a strong and formitable woman in her own right. Eilian has met his match...though he may not know it yet. But I think he will find her strength a delight and love her all the more for it. Okay! Sounds like I've got this all worked out. I hope you cooperate! :>) The bonding scene was absolutely lovely. There was nothing tawdry about it at all! The love of these two was so evident and the ending where Eilian feels he's home was so real and poignant. They are where they are supposed to be. The physical union should always be such an act of complete love and giving. You did a beautiful job of communicating this joyful and reverent communion of two souls. Just lovely! Made me want to kiss my husband. I got all warm and fuzzy! I'm certain he'll want to thank you, too. :>) I'll get to the next chapters later today. I've got to get that pile of laundry going from a week at the beach...and a baseball tournament. Dirty, dirty uniforms. Again, you out did yourself on this chapter. I wasn't certain I was ready to see our favorite wild child bond, but I can't help but feel it was the right time and, as if they are real people, I'm happy for them. Now, Thranduil... Karen

Author's reply

I think that Tuilinn is a lot like Legolas's mother. At least, I intended her to be. And I saw this mission as an test of Legolas as an adult, functioning as the son of the king. I think he's done very well in difficult circumstances. But he's plainly ready to be sent somewhere else if need be, like Rivendell for instance! The Eilian part of this chapter was frightening to write and post. It seemed to me that this was exactly the way Eilian would "solve" his problems. His relationship with his father is tense sometimes, though, and this will not help it. I really was worried about whether the chapter was too explicit but they were bonding and I wanted to catch the moment at which they realized they were sensing one another in all ways. (blush) My husband actually consented to read this chapter, and he never reads my stuff. You don't need to worry that Eilian is going to turn all responsible quite yet. I hope you had a good time at the beach. I am jealous. The baseball tournament, not so much.

Jay of Lasgalen · 11 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

There were lots of good things in this chapter. The encounter with Celuwen's parent's wasn't as bad as they (and we) feared, and I loved the deep satisfaction Eilian and Celuwen feel in each other. Eilian *did* make the right decision, and I hope Thranduil will realise that too in the end. But the meeting with him next morning is going to be - interesting. Jay

Author's reply

What Thranduil realizes in the long run and what happens in the morning are two different things, I'm afraid. He's not going to jump with joy immediately. But I think that Eilian did the right thing and Celuwen will be good for him. He thanks you for your support!

LKK · 11 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Considering all that might have happened between Eilian and Celuwen's parents, that went surprisingly well. I hope the same can be said about their encounter with Thranduil. Celuwen's mother impressed and surprised me by jumping in and defending her daughter. She, at least, understands that the choice Celuwen was facing was death or bonding. Perhaps Solith will someday understand that as well. Solith did win some sympathy points by clearly caring about his daughter's happiness. But he lost a few of those points by not understanding that Eilian makes Celuwen happy. I wonder if Celuwen will help defend Eilian's actions to Thranduil. I hope she does because I think doing so would surprise the king and go along way to easing his anger at his son. (I have to admit that I don't like it when Thranduil is angry at Eilian, so I fervently hope the announcement doesn't go over *too* badly!) Oh, and I haven't forgotten about Thranduil's youngest! Stuck up in a tree with a comely maiden and a half-dozen children. Quite a pastoral scene it would be, if it weren't for the raging flood that's happening beneath their feet and possibly threatening the very tree that they're stuck in! GET THEM SOME HELP! :)

Author's reply

When I started to write about Celuwen's parents in this chapter, Solith kind of surprised me by turning real. He insisted on loving his daughter, even though I think, like you, that he is blind in deciding what will make her happy. I'm writing about Legolas at the moment. He'll be in the next chapter and then we'll get back to the newlyweds and Thranduil. I have every faith that in the long run, things will be fine, but in the short run, I suspect that Eilian is in for some unpleasant moments. Sorry!

Erendis · 11 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

First of all, thank you for that transcript of LACE, Daw. I haven't yet got my hands on 'Morgoth's Ring', so even as I've heard about it I haven't read it. This was certainly an entertaining chapter. Fun and tense as well, I did giggle at certain parts. I think that Solith's reactions were inevitable and predictable, but you also showed that he has another side... a bit softer and more understanding, even if he expresses it with the desperation and ire of a thwarted father. I can't help to think that you're purposely delaying the meeting of Eilian and Thranduil. Boy, Ada is going to have a nice surprise for morning meal! In any case, the newlyweds are happy with each other and that's what matters the most. Will the next chapter be about Legolas and the aftermath of the flood? I hope so. Can't wait to see how he fares now and who stole that food!

Author's reply

I think that a transcript of LACE may be somewhere in the files section of SoA Yahoo group. Take a look. I laughed as I wrote part of this chapter too. The final conversation between Eilian and Solith struck me as funny, even though the earlier part was sort of angsty, at least to write. Solith is genuinely grief stricken over what his daughter has done. I'm working on Legolas and the flood right now. I'm away from home at the moment, but should have the chapter done by Monday at the latest.

caz - baz · 11 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

i'm glad i'm not in Eilian's shoes. it must be really hard to write about the confrontation between Eilian and Thranduil i know i'm not 100% sure how he's going to react to the news but i'm betting it's not going to be a good one. Happy Easter

Author's reply

Thranduil's reaction has taken some thought but I don't believe he is one to let this go even though he loves his son and will see that Celuwen is good for him. I don't think he ever had any doubt that would be the case. Happy Easter to you too, Caz-Baz.

Fadesintothewest · 10 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

I look so forward to reading about Celuwen and Eilian's adjustment to married life. How wonderful for them. It makes me giddy for them. I hope Thranduil will be more warm and receiving, after all she was fading and she will be everything Thranduil hopes for for Eilian.

Author's reply

Those things you say are true, but it's also true that Thranduil told Eilian he needed Celuwen's parents approval, that the engagement would need to be more than a year in length, and that he needed to behave like the son of the king. Also, LACE says that marrying without ceremony was contemptuous of the families. Do we think the king will like that?

Dragon-of-the-North · 10 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

What a wonderful, excellent chapter! :-) I think I may safely call myself a Solith fan now (ack! Maldor, Solith... Why is it always the difficult old elves I fall for? But I fear I really like him!). The sentences that convinced me completely were the following: "“Smile. We are having a friendly conversation. My wife and yours are both watching us.” I simply loved that moment, and also that you brough across so perfectly that Solith's actions are mainly motivated by his worry for his daughter. It was also very good to see the interaction between Solith and Isiwen - although Isiwen is quieter and acts more from the background, it was fascinating to watch her in this chapter - the title is very fitting. And Eilian and Celuwen together... It is so good that you describe their relationship as something so wonderful and loving without hiding the difficulties that are there - brilliant, realistic, touching. Hm, but I suppose Eilian is right - Thranduil will not be happy. Knowing your Victorian Adar Thranduil, I venture to guess that he will decide (or cause Ithilden to decide) that the Southern Patrol does NOT need so irresponsible and careless a captain for the next few hundred years, and the charming young husband will find himself stuck behind a nice, boring desk for quite some time, fretting about the "brat" all alone out in the South, and having all the time to make his relationship with Celuwen more stable and enjoy quiet years before the... fun begins again. (No, sorry, don't take me seriously - that was a very mean guess! Blame the annoying essay I am working on and my aching brain ;-)). Awesome job! :-)

Author's reply

Solith surprised me when I wrote this chapter, because he insisted on becoming a more rounded character rather than a two-dimensional villain. His love for his daughter just came to the fore, and his wife and his daughter both knew it was there even though Eilian didn't. I think that Eilian and Celuwen have some problems to work out. How will she live after all? No comment on your guess though!

Tapetum Lucidum · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Ok, I know you probably did not intend for this to be a "funny" chapter but I found myself LOL for a lot of it. I garnered a lot of strange looks from my husband who was reading a paperback like most normal people. I liked your little wake up scene. It is very nice to start the day snuggled up next to your spouse. It is very hard to get out of the cozy bed - even for elves. Celuwen ogling Eilian was one of the things that had me giggling too. I can't imagine strong Eilian as being embarrassed over his bare ass. (sorry couldn't resist). The thought of a furious Solith storming into camp was pretty funny too. The whole clothing game and wearing of stockings was great. How many times have you wondered how your socks remained on your feet? I was very proud of the warrior in Eilian accompanying Celuwen back to face her parents. It was extremely brave when he had the opportunity to chicken out. Celuwen showed her own intestinal fortitude when she stood right up to her father. I was relieved to have her do so. Isiwen, at least, is very supportive. I think she will be a big help in the years to come. Her smacking the table certainly got everyone's attention. It was a good way to shove some sense into her husband's thick skull. I actually felt a little sorry for Solith when he fretted over his only child's future. Where will she go and what will she do while he is on patrol? It was a very tender side of Solith that you don't often see. Eilian and Solith's little father-son chat was quite amusing. They both seemed to grimace more than smile but at least they didn't come to blows. Solith's threat to the prince does not sound like an idle one. Isn't that treason? "I will stay away as much as I can," was my most favorite line. The happy couple's quiet time in the forest was good for them. It was a nice way to start things as a couple rather than be surrounded by overbearing families. They probably won't get enough time alone together. I am sure they were both relieved not to have to face Thranduil as soon as they arrived. It will make an interesting chapter all to itself. I think Ithilden will be very happy for Eilian but disappointed in him for not "doing his duty" as far as a betrothal period and formal ceremony. I am sure Ithilden followed all of the rules of etiquette for his marriage. It would be the only way he knew how. I am also sure that Legolas will be happy for Eilian - once he gets over the embarrassment of having being seen naked by his new sister-in-law. That should turn those pointy ears red! Looking forward to the waters receding in one part of the forest while Eilian gets in deeper in the castle.

Author's reply

Actually, parts of this chapter were the first parts of the story I wrote. I did it months ago, and at that time, I thought of this as primarily a funny story that was only about the impromptu bonding and then breaking the news to both adas. So you are pretty perceptive, TL! Then in February, when I was outlining the whole story, I found myself making it longer and more complicated, drawing in the whole Legolas-politics-Tuilinn part, seeing the serious side of things, and so on. I strongly suspect that Eilian is not particularly embarrassed about much of anything! He doesn't seem the type. And I also think that Celuwen is a strong person. She's chosen her own route for a long time now. She's letting Eilian make some decisions at the moment, but he will find that's not always the way it works. If Thranduil thinks about it (after he's done kicking Eilian around for a while), he may find that he has a pretty good ally in his campaign to make his son be more careful and behave himself in general! I loved your question about wondering how socks were still on. I think you and your husband must be lucky people. ;-)

White Wolf · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

If looks could kill, Eilian would be no more. I'm certainly glad that Celuwen's mother was around. She seems quite sensible to me. I can't wait for the confrontation with Thranduil. I've never 'seen' a purple-faced elf before. Would rage and fury be too tame to describe his reaction, or will the old boy surprise us? I think not. Still, I'm glad Eilian and Celuwen bonded. It's been a long time coming!

Author's reply

It's too bad that Eilian's mother isn't around too. I'll bet she would soften Thranduil's reaction quite a bit. The 'old boy' is sleeping peacefully at the moment, but he will have some things to say to his second son. And yet, I think he'll also see how good she is for Eilian. And he does love his son.

Dot · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

First, I just want to say thanks for your kind words. Yeah, RL can leave us reeling when we least expect it… I was thrilled to see a new chapter so soon. I’ve been trying to get a chance to read this properly all day but it turns out that with all the different ceremonies, Good Friday is actually pretty busy… Anyway, I’ve found a few minutes and wow, daw, what a great chapter. My one complaint about it is that you’ve left me absolutely *dying* to know what happens with Thranduil! I loved the opening scene, with Eilian awakening and slowly discovering what it means to be bonded to someone. You created a wonderful sense of newness, of a closeness between them that we can only imagine and of an unbreakable bond that they both need to explore and learn about. It’s a lovely idea that he feels her now as a part of him but is still slightly unsure of this feeling; he knows it is pleasant but is something to which he is quite unused. I like too his obvious concern for her and as much as his body wants her he is able to look beyond this and just see that she is warm and comfortable and allowed some peace. And they’re so at ease with one another! *sigh* I think I had a silly grin on my face for most of this chapter… The fact that elves can tell if another elf is bonded is rather interesting. I suppose I always thought it was a nice idea but now I’m thinking that it’s actually unbelievably awkward in circumstances like this! Still, at least they didn’t have to try and explain anything if everyone can just tell;) It must have been so difficult for Eilian not to say anything to Sólith. It’s not his usual inclination to stay silent but then, at least he had the sense not to interfere between Celuwen and her family. “Suddenly, there was a sharp, cracking noise.” Well! Good one, Isiwen. I’m glad someone finally lost their patience with Sólith. Apart from the fact that she probably doesn’t mind Eilian as much as Sólith does, she must have been terrified that her daughter would fade and thankfully she can see that even if they lose their daughter to Eilian, it would be far worse to lose her to grief and death. “What will you do now, little one? Where will you live? What will you do with the empty hours and days and weeks when he is away?” Ah, that nearly broke my heart! I mean, much as I dislike the guy, there’s never been any doubt about his love for his daughter, misguided or otherwise. That moment when Sólith approached Eilian and they both pretended to smile was rather surreal. I can just see them trying to appear friendly to onlookers and actually almost snarling at one another. As a daughter I will say that I thought his threat was fair enough, though – I’m sure similar words have been uttered by fathers everywhere! “Thank you. I will stay away as much as I can,” Eilian promised. That’s hilarious. So polite as he promises his new father-in-law to avoid him as much as possible. I’m guessing there won’t be too many family gatherings for this lot… Hopefully, though, they will just be able to avoid each other and Sólith won’t make too much trouble for the king – after all, Celuwen is Thranduil’s daughter now too. “Celuwen never giggled!” Ah, she must be in love…;) Why are they all in bed??? Not fair. I want to know what happens. I feel bad for Celuwen starting off on this new life. I hope she gets on well with Alfirin and at least Thranduil and Ithilden are at home, even if they are usually busy. Still, there’s bound to be ructions between Thranduil and Eilian and I’m really looking forward to it! I just realised that Ithilden and Legolas will have to find out as well. Oh goody! I’m getting excited now… Of course, chances are that the next chapter will be a Legolas one…not that I’m not worried about the flood…

Author's reply

The more I thought about the idea of a newly bonded couple, the more interested in it I became. There are facets of bonding that are very Elfy and thus hard to understand. And then there is the whole issue of how she is going to make a new life and what adjustments he might have to make. I enjoyed writing about Solith in this chapter. His love for his daughter suddenly emerged and made him more real, less a cardboard villain. But I also found that I could not help veering into occasional moments of comedy, such as Eilian's promise not to visit. I think comedy is probably natural in moments of strain. I'm working on getting Legolas off that flet right now, but I have notes on Thranduil too. I'm going away this weekend, unfortunately, and the next few weeks will be intensely busy at work, so I may be slightly slower than usual posting. I hope not.

Hisie Lome · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Well, Eilian and Celuwen seem to have gotten off fairly easily from her parents. Yes, her naneth realized that it is better to have a hastily joined child, than a fading child. But her father still seems to not be too overly happy. What an understatement?! (“I have something to say to you, and this is probably going to be my only opportunity, so listen attentively. If you ever do anything that makes my daughter unhappy for even a single second, I will filet you like a fish. Do we have an understanding?” He grinned horribly, and Eilian bared his teeth in response. “I believe we do,” Eilian answered. “Good. Send my daughter to visit us in three months. You do not need to come.” “Thank you. I will stay away as much as I can,” Eilian promised.) This does not even remotely sound like a truce, welcome to the family, or even in the next forever I could learn to tolerate you....I hope that for the young couple, Solith can learn to bite his tongue and attempt civility. Although Eilian is becoming aware of just how much he is asking from his bride, I do believe he will do everything in his power to make her happy. This young prince has been raised with expectations of duty, protecting what one loves, and basic Silvan "maleness." How very much like this captain to act first and then think about how to "justify" his actions latter. He did actually think and try to do what was the right and expected thing to do, but Solith did tie his hands. Did Solith not understand than his attitude could be interpreted as a challenge? Did Solith think that Celuwen was so weak that she did not have a clue as to what she wanted from her life? She evidently had strong opinions. ( I can make Adar understand, I am certain.) I am very certain that Thranduil will indeed understand. He just will not be overly happy. However, I have a little bit of help for the Captain of the Southern Guard....This information was taken, (illegally by Turgon and Annael- much to Legolas’s chagrin, and for many years was a source of constant amusement) from Thranduil’s own personal diary: (The lady Glilan, indeed tried my patience this evening. She worried about whether the lanterns hung on the green needed to be wreathed in flowers or could be left as they were. Each little decision seemed to take on huge proportions... The lady Galenadiual did not help matters much either. By the Valar, with that smile of hers she dared me to keep a sober face. Me, her king... I felt as though I was in the midst of petitioners who had become overwrought. I am so glad that Lorellin's kin were present for this wedding, yet how Glilan fussed! When in that fell voice I heard, “It is raining,” And I vow it looks as if it will rain all day. Thranduil, you must do something!” What could I dare say? I felt as though I needed to be "summoned". Luckily, my steward Nyndir rescued me....Bride's gift indeed?! As if I do not know at customs of such as ceremony? Well, Alfirin seems to make Ithilden happy. Oh Lorellin, has it really been 30 years my love? .....) Eilian, look at your adar and in your most modest voice say, "It is raaaiiinnnnniiiinnngggg!" Your adar may be quite perturbed by "quick" betroythal, however, if you say those three words just right- I am sure he will immediately begin looking for his steward and whatever boring reports may yet need to be finished! Protocol be dammed! How often must the King suffer Lorellin's kith and kin this . Again, thank you for all of your hard work. Mina Sedth, Hisie Lome

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Eilian is a male, the son of a king, and a warrior and those three things have conditioned his thinking. He has some learning to do, I think! "I am very certain that Thranduil will indeed understand. He just will not be overly happy." This made me laugh. It so sums up what's going to happen. And you made me very happy by citing my story. Maybe when Thranduil has a chance to think about it, he will decide that staging a royal wedding was a pain and will pat the young couple on the head for eloping. Or maybe not. daw

Justafan · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

How perfectly lovely! I'm so glad that Celuwen and Eilian have finally made it to each other, but I don't think for a moment that their trials are over. Poor Solith; you did a great job with characterizing the father who doesn't want to give up his daughter, especially not to someone he has disapproved of for so long. Hopefully Thranduil will be understanding and not antagonize Eilian!

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Thranduil? Understanding? When? I wouldn't count on it at first! He's going to be hopping mad. But Celuwen and Eilian love one another and there's time for Ada to cool down.

Antigone Q · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

I am going to be charitable and think that Eilian's behavior in this chapter is because he is stressed and not because he thinks he is going to be making all the decisions for Celuwen all the time. In fact, all the males in Celuwen's life need to be giving her a bit more credit. And it worries me that Eilian has not yet even considered asking to be stationed where he will be closer to home and around Celuwen more - a little give and take would be nice, here. I'm not surprised Eilian's stomach is in a knot thinking about Thranduil. My stomach is in a knot and I don't even have to do any explaining. Then again, Thranduil will without a doubt have concern not only about settlement politics and the disobedience of his son, but also about Eilian's happiness - and it seems as though Eilian and Celuwen really will be happy. Now, what's happening with Legolas and the pretty Elleth on the flet?

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I think Eilian is acting out of stress and Celuwen is going along because getting out of the cottage is the wise thing to do. But she's completely capable of standing up for her actions if and when she chooses to. And Eilian has not considered changing, no. He tends to think he should have what he wants. He's a loving person, but he's also rather self-absorbed, just as he always says he is. Thranduil is not going to be happy, but he does love his son and I think Celuwen is good for him. We'll see.

Estel_Mi_Olor · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Aw, they are so cute! I know it seems rather base of me to reduce your well written words to a simple "cute," but no all of us are masters of words. Could Sólith have been any more aggressive? I would terrified to be in Eilian's position, with such a father-in-law. At least Isiwen has some good sense and can see that Eilian and Celuwen love each other and always will. Their love is also very touching, so deep and pure. Eilian does bring up a couple of good points though, such as Thranduil's reaction. Something tells me he won't approve. I'm sure Alifrin and Celuwen will get along beautifully, and Ithilden is also very charming. Legolas will be surprised to come home and discover his new sister-in-law. However, I do feel rather sorry for Celuwen. She has to live every day alone, content only with Eilian's promise that he will return to her as often as possible. After more lovemaking, he will leave again. What kind of a future is that, I ask you? Goodness that's depressing. Well I can't wait to see if my predictions are correct. No, wait, next chapter is about Legolas-so I can't wait to see how he's going to get out of that flood. Keep writing and thanks!

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You have named the issues exactly: Thranduil's reaction and Celuwen's life. I have plans, but we'll see how they work out! Legolas will indeed be shocked by what he finds, especially given that he has touchy news of his own to deliver about the settlement. He's going to groan at the mood his father is in. What are brothers for indeed!

esamen · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Oh, Lovely! Elf-love must be the most terrific thing in the world! This chapter just takes my breath away. What a masterpiece! But poor Solith--and Celuwen--will you please, please find a way for Elian to win the favor of his father-in-law? I have three awesome daughters and three terrific sons-in-law, and I know all too well the pain of a son-in-law not getting along with his father-in-law even when he tries. It is a tribute to your talent that I feel the hurt of both these hearts so deeply! So, our beloved bachelor is tamed now . . . I will kind of miss his winks and flirtations . . . do you plan to allow Legolas to step into his former role? Congratulations on producing a work of beauty!

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Wouldn't it be amazing to be bonded body and soul? It's a staggering concept really and when it first happens, the newlyweds must need some time to adjust. You are so kind about this chapter. Assuming that nothing happens to Eilian (or Solith), they have a long time to work things out between them (or get more hostile, I guess). And in my opinion, Eilian will never stop turning his head to look at a pretty girl! He just won't follow her any more.

Jebb · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Am I allowed to go ahh!!!? How happy Eilian and Celuwyn are and good for her mother for making things as asnormal as possible oil on troubled waters Celuwyn must take after her i think. As for Solith well I am glad he had enough about him to think of his daughter but was sorry he could not bring himself to hide his hatred of Eilian all he will do is drive a wedge between himself and his daughter I know I have been there. I can hardly wait to see what Thrnaduil's reaction will be no doubt he will 'know' before they tell him but I do not envy Eilian his interview with his own Adar Solith will seem like a kitten. Perhapd Celuwyn and Ithilden's wife will form a female elf alliance they need it in the face of all those males

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You are allowed to make contented sighs, Jebb, and I'm glad you want to. Celuwen does take after her mother, I think, although she can be stubborn too. You're right about a possible wedge between Solith and his daughter if he continues being so hostile. And in all truth, at some point Thranduil is not going to be pleased with Solith either, I think. This is his son after all. I've made notes to myself on how Celuwen and Alfirin would get along. I think Alfirin is more conventional, but she's also a loving person.

French Pony · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Ah, the excreted waste product has impacted with the artificial cooling device! You wrote this chapter very well; I can tell because it sounds just like my own family, specifically my grandfather's attitude towards my father (except my parents didn't elope). Therefore, I wish now to tell Sólith something in all seriousness: Dear Sólith. Get over yourself already. What's done is done, and there is nothing you can do about it. Patch up, make nice, and work hard to find something to like about Eilian. And do it now. There will be children from that union eventually, and you do not want to be feuding with their father when they arrive. Because you won't be able to fool your grandchildren, Sólith. They'll love you forever, but if you insist on insulting their father in their presence, they will end up having to choose sides. And, Sólith, they won't choose you. They won't stop loving you, but that'll just make it all the more awkward when they turn against you. You don't want that to happen, Sólith, really you don't. So kiss and make up with Eilian now, before it's too late. Follow your wife's lead. She knows what's best. Thank you. End of talking to your characters, back to talking to you. I wonder if Thranduil can sense his sons' marital status through their bond. Can he sense Alfirin? If so, he's going to get quite the surprise when he wakes up in the morning. Yeep! Gotta run! I'm going to see the family this weekend, and I gotta wash the dishes and skedaddle off to the airport. Catch you later!

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What excellent advice! I may copy it and store it and trot it out at some point, if you don't mind. It sounds exactly like what Isiwen would say. She would NOT want Solith's bad temper keeping away either her daughter or any grandchildren. I decided that what Thranduil can feel through the bond is his son's existence, his well being. But I don't think he can feel sensations or thoughts, especially not with Eilian. This is just my interpretation of course. I think parents and children have some need for privacy.

erunyauve · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

I can't imagine why the prospect of going with Eilian to greet her new father-in-law might frighten Celuwen. :) But it is certainly going to be a change for her - I can't help but wonder if life at the palace might not be a little boring for her. There are servants to do the tasks that have kept her busy at home, and it won't help that Eilian will be away quite often. I loved the 'friendly' little scene between Solith and Eilian just before Eilian and Celuwen left, especially Eilian's promise to stay away from his in-laws as much as possible. Of course, dealing with a slightly homicidal father-in-law is nothing compared to facing his Adar.

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Celuwen is going to have to work out a new life for herself, and I don't think it's going to be all sunshine. She's smart and she's strong, but even the smart and the strong can flounder a little in such an unfamiliar environment. I like the phrase "slightly homicidal father-in-law"! It captures Solith exactly!