Healing the Long Cleeve by TopazTook

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Dreamflower · 7 February 2005 · Chapter 20: Flawed

Hi, it's me again! I couldn't resist responding to your lovely reply! It's a shame that bit of backstory got lost in the process, because it makes it all a lot more fascinating and explicable. I know how we have to resist these side streets, but that one, would I think have been worth exploring. Now I'm curious as to the repercussions for this young guardsman--and if Pippin should come to realize that his actions were *not* so innocent... *sigh* oh, well, I guess I'll just have to imagine that part; I know you are eager to get back to the Shire.

Author's reply

Welcome back! :) Yes, I may have pulled back a bit too much in reaction to Every. Single. Character. demanding a backstory before they will allow themselves to be written, LOL. Perhaps I’ll go back and put a bit of Denggold’s perspective in between when they leave the breakfast table and his little incident later.... I think Pippin had an inkling of the lack of innocent intentions here -- his gaze did linger suspiciously on that impatient Guardsman in the archway -- and I suspect that may explain both why he was growling and why Aragorn thought that he had better get to the Guardsman first. I am eager to get back to the Shire not only because the next chapter promises to be a bit easier to write, but because we start careening toward the end with the next chapter, and I’m a bit excited about it.

pippinheart · 7 February 2005 · Chapter 20: Flawed

A very nice story...You can see that Diamond has a teasing side to here,as she does with Estella. The young guard touches Diamon,thier culture has rules and she thinks she has shamed Pippin. You can see as Pippin and Diamond talk,how they really love one another. In the end as Pippin gets the apple and offer it to her she has eyes for only him... All is well... Very well written..

Author's reply

Diamond is pretty much playing along with Pippin's teasing, but she of course does have a little bit of a teasing side to herself as well...she is a hobbit, after all. Yes, different cultures have different rules, and you can unwittingly insult someone else if you don't know the rules of their culture. Pippin and Diamond truly do love each other. "All is well"...pretty much. For now. :) Of course, we still have to go back and resolve other things in the Shire. Thank you for the compliment(s).

Dreamflower · 6 February 2005 · Chapter 20: Flawed

Oh good grief! Is she ever going to be able to get over that stuff her mother filled her head with? I loved Pippin's way of dealing with it, reminding her of the incident with the kitchen wenches--an incident far less innocent on their side, than of the poor guardsman who was merely trying to take care of his charge. I hope Aragorn is not too hard on him. Maybe he should just assign married guards to the hobbit wives from here on out, LOL!

Author's reply

<> No, probably not, completely.:) And that's exactly why this chapter, annoying as I knew it would be to some (OK, many. Most.) is necessary. There's been an internal arc of their getting to know each other better and admitting -- to both each other and themselves -- that they are in love since about Chap. 15, and things seem to have been progressing nicely and, for the most part, going along swimmingly in the actual relationship. Except that's not the way it works. There's always going to be an occasional hiccup in the road, and those tapes we play in our head of our parents or other influences are always going to make their presence known. Diamond can't escape from her past, or her personality, just as neither she nor Pippin -- as he reminds her -- can escape from their duties. Luckily, though, they do remember that they love each other. Interesting, isn't it, that both Pippin -- that forgiving hobbit of the previous chapter, which he is willing to apply to Diamond for both her actions and her reaction -- and Diamond seem to be much harder on themselves in these incidents than they are on their marriage partner. I'm sure Aragorn will deal appropriately with all involved in this situation (not that we'll see it, since we're going back to the Shire in the next chapter), but the Guardsman is actually *not* quite as innocent as he appears. Unfortunately, in getting this chapter to finally come out it didn't come through, but the backstory is: Denggold is 19 -- he's somehow related to Ingold the gatekeeper in ROTK -- at least an acquaintance, if not a friend, of Bergil. He is in the lower levels of the Guardsmen, sort of in training as it were, and it was through this acquaintanceship with Bergil that he got the assignment of guarding the hobbitesses and acting as their escort. Except he's an immature teenage boy who doesn't see this for the honor it is, and resents being forced to follow them around when all they do is shop all day. (That's why he didn't go in to Rachael and Argine's perfume and breakable doodads shop in the previous chapter. It was too girly for him, and he wants to be all soldierly and Manly.) It actually had been explained to him that he wasn't to touch Diamond, but he didn't feel that he had to pay attention to these instructions (Aragorn will be instituting cross-cultural communication training, I believe), since they didn't make sense to him. And he blatantly ignored them not only to catch Diamond so that she didn't fall onto the road, but to brush across the front of her dress in, as Estella demonstrates with her actions, a rather improper manner for anyone but her husband to touch her. So, long reply to a short review, LOL, and next chapter revisits the Shire and starts a new internal arc.

ponypetter · 22 January 2005 · Chapter 19: Occlusion

I love the conversation Pippin has with Faramir about Denethor. It's a nice touch. I also love the lines about Eowyn. I think she must have a very special relationship with Merry especially. It's nice to see Pippin teasing Faramir about it.

Author's reply

I'm glad you like Pippin and Faramir's conversation about Denethor. (It's also kind of about Paladin.) And, while I'm not writing about Merry and Eowyn in this story, I think you are right about their relationship. Pippin and Faramir can both have fun teasing each other about such things.

Anonymous · 19 January 2005 · Chapter 19: Occlusion

You wrote: Author Reply: Um, thank *you*! This is very flattering. Wondering what you meant by "the type of story" you really enjoy reading. (Not fishing, just curious!) I'm hoping to get the next chapter up either late this weekend or early next week. Thank you so much again! Type of story? Humm, well, I like all kinds [even slash occasionally], but I really like the way you tell stories in a romantic, loving, kind way and not in a slashy, overly sexual way. Not that those are bad, but it's not how I picture Pippin and Diamond. The way you talk about their relationship in your story pulls at the strings of my heart. I love that! I am so looking forward to the next chapter. Jan

Author's reply

Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering because I have a hard time categorizing stories like this. (One reason I don’t want to post on fanfiction.net. By the time you’ve said it’s a drama/romance/angst/adventure (wait a couple of chapters;))/humor/etc. -- it becomes pretty meaningless.)Was hoping maybe you had more insight into the categorization than I did, LOL. I’m glad you like the way I tell stories. I think the hobbits help in that manner -- it’s just how I see them, and a lot of the chapters are written after I’ve been mulling them over in my head for a few days, “seeing and hearing” what’s happening, so the characters themselves have a lot of influence. As for not telling things in an overly sexual way....well, I did start out trying to write this PG-13, and Chap. 17 is the first and only sex scene I’ve written, so that may have a lot to do with that style, too.:) So sweet for you to say this pulls at your heartstrings.:)

Anonymous · 19 January 2005 · Chapter 19: Occlusion

"Healing of Long Cleeve" by Topaz Took is by far my most favorite story on-line. All fan fics have their place, but this is the type of story I really enjoy reading. I can hardly wait for the next chapter. Thank you Topaz, it's sheer magic.

Author's reply

Um, thank *you*! This is very flattering. Wondering what you meant by "the type of story" you really enjoy reading. (Not fishing, just curious!) I'm hoping to get the next chapter up either late this weekend or early next week. Thank you so much again!

Alayna the Tallest Hobbit · 17 January 2005 · Chapter 13: River Diggings

Poor Pippin! He just can't seem to stay out of trouble. Poor Merry, too. One thing that Diamond said caught my attention. Arnica liniment. Whenever I get hurt, I rub arnica gel on the spot where a bruise would be. It's really effective. Have you used it before? Or did you just hear about it? Alayna

Author's reply

No, poor Pippin can't seem to stay out of trouble. He's had probably more than his share of illnesses and mishaps (and I have another plot bunny bugging me that's getting him into even more, although I'm trying to stave it off until I've finished this one.) I haven't actually used arnica...thankfully, I don't bruise myself too often, and when I do, I tend to just suffer stoically. This was part of the research that went into this story. When I post the last chapter, I am also going to put up the author's notes which will include a bibliography.

Alayna the Tallest Hobbit · 17 January 2005 · Chapter 12: Lozenge

I loved the games! I hope Diamond managed to put Pip back into his fun-loving mood and I hope his mood stays there. "he had kissed his wife." Squee! I'm glad. Alayna

Author's reply

Glad you liked the games; they were fun to write about. That's what she's working toward, is to put Pippin "back into his fun-loving mood" -- but I think he's a bit in shock at the end of this chapter. :)

Alayna the Tallest Hobbit · 16 January 2005 · Chapter 10: Clarity

(“Well, in answer to your question you asked,” she said with kind exasperation, “you could start by calling him ‘Pippin’ as near to everyone else does!” It sounds a fine menu indeed,” she smiled at him. “Pippin.” Her husband’s face grew even brighter.) Yes! Happy Dance time! I'm so glad, but I never expected Rosie to be the one to tell her. Alayna

Author's reply

Nobody else apparently did either, LOL. She's got a good head on her shoulders, that Rosie.

Alayna the Tallest Hobbit · 16 January 2005 · Chapter 9: Facets

Ganelon bugs me. I liked the stitching pattern, and can't wait to hear the stories from Pippin's mum. Perhaps she will tell Diamond to call Pip "Pippin" instead of "husband" all the time. :) Alayna

Author's reply

Really? Ganelon bugs you? Hmm, I wonder why.... ;) Glad you liked the stitching pattern and that you'll enjoy Eglantine's description of Pip as a little lad.

Alayna the Tallest Hobbit · 16 January 2005 · Chapter 8: Sparkling

I liked this one, Topaz! I finally crawled out of my books to read this story again. Thank you for writing about Sam becoming mayor, and bringing Merry into the story. I was wondering though, can a Tookland Egg actually be made? Thanks, Alayna

Author's reply

Hi, Alayna! Glad to see you back.:) Glad you liked the Sam and Merry elements, too. Merry, especially, keeps popping up in this story...probably because it's nigh unto impossible to write a Pippin story without him. A Tookland egg can actually be made. I have, in fact, eaten one at my state fair. In RL, they're called "Scoth eggs", and here's the dictionary definition: A hard-boiled egg wrapped in sausage meat, coated with bread crumbs, and deep-fried.

Marigold · 13 January 2005 · Chapter 19: Occlusion

I think that this is the best chapter so far! I especially liked Pippin's thoughts about Gandalf as a substitute Grandda, and that he misses him so very much!

Author's reply

Thank you very much! I'm rather fond of this chapter myself.:) Pippin missing Gandalf is a way for him and Faramir to acknowledge that loss, just as Merry and Aragorn do for Frodo earlier in the chapter. I think the substitute Grandda thing came out of my subconscious partly from looking at the family trees and noting "oh, Paladin's father died before Pippin or Pervinca were even born, so they couldn't have known him" and partly through the lingering subconscious effect's of Billy Boyd's DVD commentary on FOTR where he says Pippin thinks of Gandalf as a grandfather. It just kind of showed up in there, LOL, as did Pippin and Faramir's entire conversation. I think I was channeling when I wrote it.:)

Dreamflower · 12 January 2005 · Chapter 19: Occlusion

What lovely interactions. Aragorn and Merry rang so true--I love Merry's realization that Pippin had the generosity of spirit needed to deal with the Ring. I have often thought that Pippin's personality was a lot like Frodo's would have been if he had never lost his parents. Diamond and Estella going into the shop was also beautifully done. These two are getting their eyes opened to the magnitude of what their husbands, Frodo and Sam actually accomplished, and how greatly it affected the world. That kind of gratitude has got to be almost frightening. And finally, Pippin and Faramir--just lovely, truly lovely! This is laying the grounds for a friendship deep enough that Pippin will one day name his son for the Prince of Ithilien. Hoping for a chapter or so more in Gondor before they have to go back to the Shire. But of course, I always love them interacting with their Big Folk friends.

Author's reply

Thank you so much. I think the forgiveness aspect of LOTR is a huge part of its theme and its impact. Glad you liked the Diamond and Estella scene, too. They are getting a bit overwhelmed at the greater world -- and learning not only about what the Traveller hobbits did, but also that Big people could have watched their loved ones suffer, too. Estella gets to feel empathy with Rachael in this chapter as she remembers Freddy after the Lockholes, instead of just fear of Big people masked with bravado. And you are so right about the reasoning behind the Pippin and Faramir scene: it grew from my asking myself, "Why does Pippin name his son Faramir?" and this helps to answer that in the context of this story. And then my Pippin and Faramir characters just sort of took over and wrote their scene themselves -- I was surprised to find out that Faramir's personality was so hobbity, LOL. But I think I'll let them take over if they want to do so again (as did Merry and Aragorn, to an extent, as well as the lasses), because I think this chapter is one of my favorites in this fic so far. And you will get your wish again: there is at least one more chapter in Gondor, because there was supposed to be other stuff that happened in this one, but the characters had other ideas about what happened and then it didn't fit in, LOL!

pipinheart · 12 January 2005 · Chapter 19: Occlusion

Nice story...I like how in the begining you don't know which hobbit it is...Mery knows it is Aragorn before he reaches the fence.He even tells him the cobbler needs to fix his boots better... Merry is upset about him fussing and arguing with pippin lately,and Aragorn talks to him about how easy pippin forgives...Yet he becomes sad as Frodo is mentioned.. pippin spends time with Faramir,and they end up talking about gandaf and pippins father is mentioned because of an illness...He is crying and both share the grief.. A real nice story..Keep up the good work...

Author's reply

I'm glad you like that you don't know what hobbit it is at first. I tried to just make it clear through the bits of personality that kept showing through: the horses, the little bit of a fear of heights when he goes to get down from the fence, the practicality and the boots thing -- after all, Brandybucks sometimes wear them when the river's high. Thank you for your comments.

pipinheart · 5 January 2005 · Chapter 18: Canteen Rush

Very nice..Pippin finally tells Merry of his Love for Diamond,and Merry is so Happy for him... They are approuching the city all in thier armor... Pippin and Aragorn meet, but I like the phrase...Know to some as Strider...And pippin throws himself into the Kings arm,and embraces merry as well...He welcomes his old friends back... very good...

Author's reply

Thank you for your comments. I figured Pippin and Merry had better make up soon, or they wouldn't be very much best friends. And Aragorn is glad to see his old friends, especially since he knows that they will act like hobbits. :)

Eruvyweth · 3 January 2005 · Chapter 18: Canteen Rush

Ahhhhhhh. The joy emitting from this chapter actually brightened my evening. I'm happy now. Thank you so much. Please write more.

Author's reply

I'm so glad that you enjoyed it so much, and that it brightened your evening. It makes me happy to know that I have made you happy. I am working diligently on Chapter 19 now. :)

Marigold · 3 January 2005 · Chapter 18: Canteen Rush

I am really excited that they are travelling now! Merry as an "old gaffer" was just great, and I really enjoyed their arrival in the City and welcome from Strider : )

Author's reply

I am so glad you liked it. Thank you again for your help in correctly naming Oatbarton way back at the beginning of this story.:) While I don't think they let it interfere with their friendship, I do think Merry and Pippin can kid around with each other about their age difference -- in a previous chapter, Merry crossed out "older" and wrote "wiser" cousin instead in a letter he wrote to Pip. Pip's reactions are kind of like my little sister's, who delights in informing me of such things as, "When you're 80, I'll only be 76!" I'm glad you enjoyed the arrival in the White City, too...and I'm suuure it wasn't subconsciously influenced by my having recently watched the Pippin/Gandalf scenes in the EE of ROTK. Yeah. Absolutely sure. Mmm-hmm. [Cough.]

Dreamflower · 3 January 2005 · Chapter 18: Canteen Rush

This is just marvelous! I know you've got a lot of plot waiting back in the Shire with poor Pervinca and treacherous Ganelon, but I for one, don't mind a bit if you should decide to let our lads and their lasses linger for a while in the White City with their Strider! And I'm so glad that Merry finally understands about Pippin and Diamond. Unlike Pervinca, he is able to see that Pippin has been able to fall in love with his wife after they were wed.

Author's reply

Well, they'll be lingering for at least another chapter, so you'll get your wish.:) And there is, of course, plot waiting back in the Shire with Pervinca and Ganelon (and Paladin, and Honeysuckle...), but these hobbits keep surprising me with what else they throw in here. [Really, Estella, when did this become partly *your* story, too?] And, yes, Merry is more open to understanding about Pippin and Diamond. Probably partly because of his own experiences in choosing a wife (freely, for love, if that hasn't come across yet) and also partly because of his closeness with Pip...it is, of course, his protective instincts about his little cousin that have been most bothering him about this whole marriage, and now that he knows the Tooks are actually in love, he feels a lot better about the whole thing.

Nina the powerwriter · 28 December 2004 · Chapter 17: Mining Deep

I have to say that the build-up to this chapter was all worth it. It was the perfect time and way to finally bring Pip and Diamons together as a married couple. They are now (hopefully) bonded as one. You have written their characters so complex and yet so simple at the same time, it really works. You wrote this chapter extremely well (I MEAN it!). It seemed very honest and real. I loved the little quirks in it (like “Skip to the good parts"). The foot-fetish thing did open your eyes to remember that they are hobbits and they got their own way of being :P Could I borrow the foot-fetish idea? A story sparked from that idea. All in all, I ADORE this chapter! Wonderful job! You deserve a thumbs up! Can't wait for the next chapter!

Author's reply

“Complex and simple at the same time” -- I think that pretty much sums up hobbits in general. :) I’m glad you liked the chapter, and you felt that it worked. Thank you for your kind comments. And I’m glad you liked the “foot fetish” and other quirks as well, and that it worked to remind you that hobbits aren’t humans. Yes, of course you can borrow the foot fetish thing for your story idea. I am often surprised that I haven’t seen certain elements elsewhere in the fandom already.

ponypetter · 21 December 2004 · Chapter 17: Mining Deep

Mmmm furry-footed Hobbit sex. Fun! The part with the feet was great; cracked me up. My favorite part of this story is how Merry is uncomfortable with not being the most important person in Pippin's life anymore. You add a great dynamic to the tale. Diamond is an interesting character too, and it was great fun to wonder when she'd find out how babies are made! I can only imagine how overwhelmed Diamond would be with Minas Tirith if she thinks Pippin's home is somewhat opulent. I hope you continue the story through their visit.

Author's reply

Glad you liked the part with the feet.:) I wanted to somehow bring back into the story the idea that the characters are hobbits, not people, with their own culture, etc. -- and the foot scene let me provide some more detail without making the chapter as a whole too graphic. :) That’s really interesting that the Merry dynamic is your favorite part, considering that I wasn’t really even planning it that much when I began writing this story. (The Pippin, Diamond, Paladin, Ganelon, Pimpernel/Everard, Pervinca, Diamond’s mum plots/subplots: all planned. Merry’s? Not so much.) I just knew that I couldn’t write a Pippin story without Merry, and then the Brandybuck just sort of took over his sections and created his own dynamic. That hobbit has a way of making his opinions known. I do plan to continue the story through their visit to Minas Tirith. At least part of it willl be in Chap. 18, which will also have some more Merry/Pip conversation. There are approximately seven to nine more chapters to go, depending on whether a couple of segments take up more than one chapter. I’m glad you find Diamond interesting as well, and thanks for your comments on the story!

pipspebble · 21 December 2004 · Chapter 17: Mining Deep

Mining deep! Oh! Oh! Darling! You have absolutely slain me with this chapter! I printed it yesterday and read it last night before going to bed and "the face of a warrior" and the halo of chestnut hair and, especially, the "mining deep" has stayed with me ever since! This chapter was everything I could have hoped for from this story, indeed, you have exceeded all my expectations. I am absolutely in awe, me dear! Bravo, bravo, bravo! I'll never think of my Pippin in the same way, ever again! Our lad is all grown up! Wonderful job! (can you tell I loved it????) ;-)

Author's reply

Aww. Wow! Thank you so much for this very kind review! I’m so glad the chapter pleased you and met your expectations! Of course, while this may have been the climax of one plotline -- [yeah, that was hard to avoid;) ] -- there’s still a lot left to resolve here. I’m anticipating another seven to nine chapters, depending on whether a few things organize themselves into one chapter or two. I was thinking about how grown up he was as I finished writing this chapter, too...and then I realized I missed the wee, cute lad, LOL. Again, thank you so much for your kind words! [Blushes and hides face in hands in embarrassment, a la Diamond]

pipinheart · 21 December 2004 · Chapter 17: Mining Deep

Really well written... It was written in a romantic way,that showed the love but the fear of that moment as well. Pippin seems almost to have a scottish accent,that seems endearing here. Kind of funny,when pippin asks what does your books say to do next.... Then he is crying and asking her never to leave him,but why would she,she loves him,as does he... Great job...

Author's reply

Thank you. I am glad you thought this chapter captured both the love and the fear, as that was one of its goals (as well as the awkwardness, LOL). I do portray Pippin as having a Scottish accent, as do many others in the fandom. In my case, it is todistinguish the Tooks as different from the rest of the Shire in homage to Billy Boyd’s portrayal of Pippin in the movies and acknowledgment of Peter Jackson’s commentary that they’re Scots...and a way to more easily distinguish which characters are speaking during dialogue. Yes, Pippin and Diamond both love each other and don’t want to leave each other, but if you remember Chap. 16, her brother and his sister have something else in mind. Thank you again.

Dreamflower · 19 December 2004 · Chapter 17: Mining Deep

*eeep* That was lovely. It's not something I could ever have the nerve to write, much less post, but I do appreciate having a nice sexy relationship in a marriage. I,too, do not care for the way Diamond is often depicted as cold and/or insensitive. I don't mind a bit of marital angst for OCs or minor canon characters, but I would *never* saddle one of the Four in a bad marriage. And though I thought about skipping this chapter, because it is a bit more risque than I usually go for, I decided that if Pippin was finally going to get the payoff for his patience I didn't want to miss it. You have a lot of courage for posting this story, which is so very different from most takes on hobbit matrimony.

Author's reply

Thank you; I am flattered and gratified that you chose to step out of your comfort zone a little and read this chapter, and am glad you liked it. I don't know about courage - I did just feel that I owed it to those who have been wanting to see this sort of detail (although I must admit I was pretty nervous about posting the first such scene I have ever written). I actually like reading about poor Pippin suffering if it is well-written -- I am a member of Pippin Healers, after all :) -- but I, too, don't think Tolkien would truly have made any of the Four suffer in an unhappy marriage. Part of the inspiration for this story is to give a bit of a different perspective on Diamond, and maybe offer some insight into *why* others might think her cold.

Ariel · 19 December 2004 · Chapter 17: Mining Deep

Whew... good. It was one review reply that gave me the sense of - OK, she's not one of those who likes any criticism - that made me wonder if I should just shut up - but if you get it all day long at work, that certainly makes sense why you'd not want it in your hobby! It was also probably my interpretation as much as anything. I tend I'm very glad that you did include this scene and gave folks the option of reading it or not. It seems the best solution for both groups of folks - those who are raging pervs like me or the more wholesome types. :D It worked nicely and was in character, though I am curious as to what Diamond's reaction is going to be when she realizes that THAT is what it takes to make babies... LOL!

Author's reply

Oh, I'm glad we got that cleared up. 'Tis the season of good will and good tidings, and I'm glad not to be entering into something contrary to that. [hugs] Also glad you feel this "optional" chapter was a good solution and that it was in character...although, if you're in favor of het, married sex, doesn't that make you automatically *not* a raging perv? Or at least a wholesome perv? Or...something? [Must stop drinking wassail in celebration of completing Christmas cards. Hic.]

Marion · 19 December 2004 · Chapter 17: Mining Deep

Oh, well done. Tastefully and inventive and very within character. I like the 'foot-fetish' thing. It would stand to reason that hobbits enjoy the look and feel of fine footfur. Although it wouldn't be a 'sexual' thing per se... it being 'out there' for all to see. And I like the reference of unmarried hobbits playing 'footsy' before they're married but having to stop before getting 'too far'. Gives me all kind of fun images of hobbits courting and rubbing feet underneath tables etc.. (grin!)

Author's reply

Glad you thought it was "tasteful and inventive and within character." I wasn't too sure whether it would be inventive, since this is the first sex scene I've written. The words "foot fetish" did occur to me while I was writing that segment, but I decided not to go *too* far down that path.:) The inspiration was that I wanted something in there that was a reminder that these characters are *not* just regular men and women of our own day and time; they are hobbits with their own culture and their own characteristics -- including an attraction to the type of foot-fur that, I have to say, I personally would not find appealing, LOL! I sort of thought of their playing "footsie" (an image which did occur to me as well) as the equivalent of "necking" among modern-day courting couples. And it did spur some additional images for me as well, which will probably in part be worked into Chapter 18.