Legolas's Begetting Day by daw the minstrel

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Nilmandra · 24 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

I love the line that 'Letting Legolas and his friends pursue their own ends in the privacy of Legolas’s room seemed unwise to him.' Hehe - that Eilian should recognize wisdom and at so young an age! Of course, he isn't really out of elfingdom himself at this point, and like knows like. Maltanaur's plan is great - I can just see this wise old elf singing and dancing in the woods to lead orcs astray. I think Eilian did learn a lot from his keeper over the years.

Author's reply

Eilian knows exactly the kind of stuff that kids can get up to. He'd probably be helping them if his mind weren't on other things right now! I liked writing about Maltanaur being the one who came up with the plan and kind of ordered the strategy, which Eilian does in later stories. I suspect he did learn a lot from Maltanaur.

Jay of Lasgalen · 24 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

So the mice have escaped - fancy that! I like Eilian's reactions here, both when Legolas claimed they were doing 'nothing', and when he saw the beribboned mouse. His memories of the journey home for Legolas's birth are interesting, especially the way Maltanaur(? I'm spelling that from memory!) agrees they have to divert the orcs despite the danger to Eilian. And I always like to see one of the minders hurt and being cared for by their charge. At least we know they both made it in one piece. Jay

Author's reply

Do your pupils ever tell you they're doing "nothing," Jay? I imagine that 5 and 6 year olds keep you busy. I think Maltanaur must have been really torn about letting Eilian do this, but they couldn't just let the Orcs attack the settlement. I am a little concerned that this story lacks much tension because we know everyone survives, but the last story was tense enough, so I'm enjoying the break!

Duchess · 24 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

LOLOL Oh this is too cute! Eilian is gonna roar with laughter, in trouble or not, when he finds out he really wasn't seeing things. LOVE the little backstories you're doing and am curious about more of this one. How nerve racking for Eilian and Maltanaur to have the Orcs decide to camp THERE! *shivers* Yikes! Gotta run, have a wedding to attend. :)

Author's reply

They may all laugh about this someday, but I'm not so sure this is the day! The backstories are fun to do. They're one way to show Legolas's birthday but still have him be in the story as a slightly older child too. Eilian has, as usual,gotten into a tense situation. Hope the wedding was fun!

Dot · 24 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

What? The mice escaped? From the impenetrable rock-and-towel house? I don’t believe it… ;-) A great Eilian-centric chapter. I love the way he quickly assesses the situation and realises that it is he who will end up in trouble with Thranduil and not his baby brother – and isn’t one bit pleased about it. It sounds as if Lorellin was fairly adept at occupying mischievous elflings. Actually, Legolas could probably have told Eilian what happened and might have found an ally… if only there wasn’t a female involved and something Eilian would MUCH rather be doing. Can Eilian really get Thelion to let them off sword-training? And talk parents into letting the elflings off lessons? Hmmn. He could be right about Turgon’s tutor. There’s a job I’d hate to have. As always, I loved the flashback. It was so tense! Eilian’s obvious concern for his mother was very touching. Even here I could really sense the closeness between them. Eilian really was such a young warrior when he was sent south. No wonder Ithilden fought against posting him there for as long as he could. I thought it was rather sad to see that even way back then Eilian felt strongly the life in the trees when he ventures out of the southern parts of Mirkwood. It really says a lot about his strength of character that he chose that place of darkness to be his life for so long. I gasped out loud when Eilian realises where the Orcs are headed! What a terrible predicament for Eilian and Maltanaur. I felt sorry for Maltanaur, actually. He clearly wants to get Eilian home but there’s no way the two of them could leave the elves of the settlement to such a horrific fate. That little game-plan of theirs was so dangerous. I had to laugh, though, at Maltanaur running back and forth, singing loudly! And then he fell! Oh my God! Eilian is so clever to use the stream to hide the scent of blood. I can’t believe the Orcs are going to spend the day in the ravine. You have to let us know what happened next! Ah, Amelith is here and the mice are on the loose. I think I see why we never hear of her again in later stories! And if Legolas realises that the mice could have ventured further than his chamber, he might see that a treasure hunt could also be used for searching for stray pets… I can’t wait to see what happens. Those mice are SO going to cause trouble and those elflings won’t be able to deny they know about them when the mice have such pretty ribbons. Still, I’m feeling most sorry for Eilian for some reason…:-)

Author's reply

As usual, Eilian acted (or in this case spoke) without thinking first when he said he would get them out of their lessons. Thranduil would be the first to point that out! And indeed, I think his mind was elsewhere. Amelith may find that this evening in the palace will not be so great. And you know, I'll bet if it were Celuwen, she'd laugh. As I wrote this, I realized how young Eilian was when I had him sent south. The only explanation I can offer is the Watchful Peace had ended only recently and the realm was short of warriors. Otherwise, I can't imagine Ithilden posting him there. Of course, it could also be that Ithilden didn't yet realize how bad the south was getting. Eilian is, indeed, close to his mother, and it's her he's thinking of here, not the new baby. Ithilden has had a baby brother appear before but Eilian never has and he's not so sure it's a good idea.

Bodkin · 24 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

'You do not have to watch us, Eilian. We will just stay in my room.' Doing their lessons and tidying up, I suppose. Now who wouldn't be convinced by this display of innocent charm? Let me see - anybody who has ever had any dealings with a child? Eilian certainly knew better than to fall for this one. However, I think his hormones have tempted him into danger - I'm not convinced a treasure hunt would keep them out of trouble, even without the complication of the mice. Fancy the mice escaping! Who would have thought it! Now - Amelith will probably be upset - they will turn up in Thranduil's office and the Men will think they are seeing things - Nimloth's sewing basket seems a good place for a mouse to hide - and then there are the kitchen's and the breakfast table - the possibilities are endless. Eilian and the Orcs - it must have been serious for Maltanaur to ENCOURAGE Eilian to expose himself to danger. I love those two. I hope to see a bit more of Legolas's naneth soon - Thranduil is an excellent adar, but Lorellin must be rather special, too. Her relationship with Eilian always seems such an important factor in his character. I would like to see Ithilden when he was small and less responsible, too. Keep the chapters coming - please!

Author's reply

LOL. Oh yes, doing their lessons, that's it. I'm afraid that Eilian's desire to have some privacy means that the children will be wandering around a bit on their own. Poor kids. Their pets ran away! Who could ever have guessed that a towel and some rocks wouldn't hold the mice? I really hesitated in writing the Maltanaur-Eilian scene, wondering if Maltanaur would allow Eilian to do something so dangerous, but I decided that neither one of them would be able to simply let the orcs attack the settlement, and there didn't seem to be another way for them to help. Naneth will certainly be back. She and Eilian are close and he's worried about her. He's also about to cease being the family baby!

Ms. Whatsit · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

I liked the Eilian flashback. I wish Eilian had been my baby-sitter when I was little. He'd be cool. I like the way you connected Legolas and his birth, the waterfall, and Eilian and his rescue of Maltanaur. I just like the Eilian-Legolas stories in general :). Let's see, what would be the most awkward way for the mice to reappear? During Eilian's date with Amelith, probably. Poor girl.

Author's reply

The qualities that make Eilian a cool babysitter are exactly those that drive his father to distraction! But even he had sense enough to see that something was up. Have you been looking at my notes, Ms. Whatsit? :-)

French Pony · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

Ooh man, now you've got me remembering all the babysitting jobs I've had. . . even Eilian has more sense than I had, and that's saying something. I'm sure Eilian would never have distracted a kid from mischief with an offer to play catch with toy planes in a tchotchke-filled living room. . . Well, we know where Brownie got to. Have you ever read Lois Lowry's "Anastasia, Ask Your Analyst?" There are some fairly similar situations involving gerbils in that book, and it seems like the sort of thing you'd get a kick out of. I have to say I am really looking forward to your account of Legolas's birth. I'll get to read about childbirth as written by someone who's actually had a kid, a professional! And it strikes me that the celebration of the begetting day, while cute for little kids, could become a real pain when adolescence hits. Your grouchy adolescent Elfling sclomps down the stairs, scowls at the younger sibs and says to you, "I know what yooooooouuuuuu were doing forty-one years ago today!" Eilian is, of course, still Eilian in the flashback, but it's interesting that Maltanaur seems a bit less, well, mom-ly. It's clear that he hasn't been working with Eilian all that long and hasn't learned to keep a tight rein on his principal. I'm thinking that the arrow wound will be a valuable teaching tool for Maltanaur in that regard. Waterfall hideouts are neat. I wonder if Eilian ever gets to see Henneth Annûn. I bet he'd like it. Where are the Orcs going? It seems that Orcs are always tramping through your Mirkwood, and for the first time I wondered where they come from and where they go. Mirkwood seems to be the I-95 of Orc-dom.

Author's reply

I've never read the Lowry book. Is it a kid's book? I should look. You're making me laugh about being a professional on childbirth! I don't know that I'll go into the details. For one thing, I'm using people's memories and that means that I can't get into Lorellin's head because she's dead. :-( And yes, the whole "begetting day" thing seems a like a little too much information to me. You've touched on two things I was a little concerned about in the Eilian part. Would Maltanaur allow this and what were the Orcs doing? I decided that the danger to the settlement was so serious that Maltanaur would decided that he and Eilian were warriors first here. He always has to let Eilian act like a warrior, meaning it's hard to be a bodyguard. He mostly has to watch Eilian's back and make sure he doesn't do anything foolish. And this situation really skirted along the edges of that charge. I just didn't think they'd go on their way and let the settlement suffer. The Orcs are another matter. The Tale of the Years says they were multiplying in the Misty Mountains about now. So what was that about? Maybe they were trying to block east-west travel and keep the various realms from forming alliances? I don't know. Sauron was at Dol Guldur, though, and was probably trying to organize things, so maybe there was some traffic of Orcs back and forth from there to the mountains. This particular band was after the settlement at the moment, but may have been on its way to the mountains. (I like weasel words like "may" :-)) Author Reply: French Pony-- At the library today, I picked up a copy of "Anastasia Krupnik" and read it this afternoon (I love being an academic and getting the summer off!). The little girl was charming. The first thing I liked was that the cover picture of her looks a lot like I did at that age -- skinny, glasses, bangs. And I liked her parents -- a professor father and an artist mother, living in Boston near Harvard. That sounds like my dream family! My own family was blue collar living in Detroit. That had its interesting moments too, I suppose. Just as someone writing stories now, I was struck by how well done this was. The point of view is Anastasia's and it's well controlled and believeable, and I liked the way pages of her notebook were interspersed. It's a little weird to have spent a couple of hours amusing myself with a kid's book, but this was fun. daw

OakWolf · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

How are the elflings getting out of this?(having owned rodents I sympathize)Lovely job Daw,Keep it up!

Author's reply

You know, I am amazed at the number of people who appear to have kept rodents as pets. I just don't see the attraction! Although I guess every nursery school I ever set foot in had gerbils, and they did seem kind of cute. The elflings are going to have a busy evening. :-)

The Karenator · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

Well, your dawness, you got this up quickly, didn't you? To keep me from blabbing? Well, I never. "Eilian never objected to getting into a little entertaining trouble himself,..." One of my favorite lines. It's so Eilian. By the looks of the missing mice, I'd say the entertainment is about to commence. And it's true, I'm sure, Thranduil will not be pleased that his baby-sitter has allowed the mouse hunt to get out of hand...which I'm sure it will. Eilian's memories of Legolas's begetting day are exciting. I'm so impressed with all the 'new' adventures you cook up for your characters. They're so original. I'm sure it just killed Maltanaur to have to agree with Eilian that they had to do something...the two of them...to aid the settlement. And now they're stuck behind a waterfall with orcs as neighbors...and a wounded Maltanaur. Oh, his poor wife. Does she sense this, I wonder? The mouse hunt promises to be fun. I'm sure Eilian thought he was seeing things when he glimpsed a mouse with a brown ribbon tied around his tail. I can't wait to hear what the king has to say about his new housemates. This is such a delightful story, daw. I'm really enjoying the lightheartedness of it interspersed with memories that have, so far, ranged from anticipation to dangerous. I'm looking forward to reading the other memories and seeing how Eilian and Maltanaur get out of this tight spot. And as always, I'm enjoying your easy style and distinctive voice. It's always such fun to read your stories. Carry on, Karen

Author's reply

It needed beta-reading and Nilmandra delivered, so it was ready. :-) Eilian likes a little excitement -- not as much as the Orcs provided him and Maltanaur and maybe not even as much as the mice will provide! But the girlfriend? Now that, he's looking forward to. I wonder if she likes mice? Poor Maltanaur. He was in a bad spot. But he and Eilian did the right thing. We'll see what happens now. I'm glad you liked it.

Elena Tiriel · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

Great chapter, Daw! But I am just shocked, **shocked** I say, that the mice escaped already! Who woulda thunk it? ;-D Poor Eilian! He's so much more adept at dealing with Orcs than elflings! Speaking of which, I love the unfolding story with Eilian and Maltanaur... trapped behind a waterfall? Brrrr... And the threat to the settlement was certainly putting Maltanaur in a difficult quandary, caught between competing duties. Oh, and by putting ribbons on the mice tails, the elflings can't claim that they were wild mice that just snuck in on their own... Lovely story, Daw! Can't wait to see what happens next... - Barbara P.S. I'll refrain from telling you why snakes make lovely pets... I'm not sure you'd believe me... ;-)

Author's reply

Little L and his friends were shocked too. Who would have guessed that some piled up rocks and towel wouldn't hold mice??? :-) Maltanaur was indeed in a difficult situation. And now things are kind of tight. In the meantime, the baby's soon to be on the way at home, and Eilian needs to get there to greet him. But in the "present," the girlfriend and the mice await him!

Manderly · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

The little excitement of the orc chase in the middle of the chapter was certainly unexpected, but nonetheless welcome. What a brilliant way to mingle giggles with heart pounding. The smile had barely left my face over the prospect of the treasure hunt when you started with the flashback (flashed back to the exact hour, I might add) with the excitement of the orc chase (or should it be elf chase?). Then you left those two poor elves sitting behind the waterfall surrounded by orcs and brought us back to the present with sightings of ribboned mice scurrying around. Quite a roller-coaster ride for the emotions. I loved it!

Author's reply

Glad you enjoyed it, Manderly. Eilian is seldom able to come home without bringing some excitement with him. His poor parents have enough to worry about without wondering where he is! And the elflings are missing their pets too, poor babies.

sofia · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

good chapter. I like the little flashback with Eilian before Legolas' birth. -sofia

Author's reply

Thank you, Sofia. Legolas's family is going to continue to remember that day while the brat himself is worried about his mice. :-)

Karri · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

Aw! I hope they get their mice back before someone shoos them out of the palace. Great chapter. :-)

Author's reply

I'm not sure the mice would agree with you about that, Karri! I don't think they liked being pets.

Rose Sared · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 2: Escape

Cry havoc and let loose the mice of chaos. Hah! lovely ch, lovely flashback - poor leggy, in trouble on his birthday. What fun. Rose

Author's reply

Legolas is not in trouble yet, and maybe he can even stay out of it! We'll see how things go. But the mice are on the run. I'm not sure they liked being pets.

dreamworld · 23 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

Hello! I am a Chinese, I love your stories so very much and I have read all of your stories, although my English is so poor and it is so hard for me to read English story! I love Legolas, either he is an elfling or an adult, and I love Thranduil¡¢Ithilden¡¢Eilian and Annael too, so I hope that they would live in Arda happily for ever . Anyway, please continue, I will wait it beyond the end of the time. :))

Author's reply

Dreamworld-- Thank you so much for this nice review! When I read it, I got very excited to think about my stories being read in China. I love the internet! I love Legolas and his family (and Annael) too. He is lucky to have this loving family and this kind friend. These characters have come to seem very real to me. Again, thank you for telling me you enjoy my stories. daw

Jebb · 22 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

I loved this it was so wonderful to read something that brings a smile to your face and lets it stay there! There was so much to enjoy the differences between the elflings, you could see which one of the vistors had, had a 'proper' upbringing and the differences between Legolas' life and theirs are brought into sharp relief when they enter his world As for the mice I can only see great trouble ahead I supsect Nimloth is not the only one who is going to get an unpleasent surprise but the thing that made me laugh out loud and is stillm aking me smile was the wise words of Legolas regarding his elder brother I can just hear Thranduil saying it thank you so much for sharing J

Author's reply

Thank you, Jebb. I had fun writing this chapter too, which was a relief after the sorrows of writing about Five Armies. I wondered how Turgon and Annael would feel about visiting Legolas. This is not the first time they've slept over, I think, but still, it must be a little odd. Even his room seems huge to them -- so huge that they're sure that Nimloth will never notice a few mice in the corner. ;-)

The Karenator · 22 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

Hi daw, It's so nice to go back to the simpler days of Legolas after the intensity of your last story. Not that I didn't love the last one, but I do have a soft spot for the family tales. I always enjoy the little Legolas stories. This one promises to be quite fun, I think. You do such a nice job of tone and voice according to what age Legolas is in your story. One place in particular comes to mind. When the little trio passed the guards, and Annael spoke to them, Legolas did not because he had been instructed to not distract the warriors, and he made the mental note that his friends didn't have guards at their house. That was such a kid thing to think. I enjoyed Thranduil's memories of Legolas's begetting day. Of course, I got 'really' sidetracked by Lorellin 'having her way with him'. Funny how you have a tendency to slip those little things in when the little ones are around, and I have to behave...or I feel guilty. But once they've gone to bed...next to the mouse house, I might just spend some time reflecting on that. :>) Adorable family dinner there. Just delightful. So what are the men doing coming a-calling on a spring night? Is a little excitement--besides the mice--around the corner? A great start. I'm looking forward to seeing where the mice go and what the men are up to. I'm also looking forward to the memories of Legolas's birth...especially Thranduil's. Perhaps he'll elaborate about Lorellin's 'way'. :>) Okay, don't be too late updating since I'm playing the role of Father Flanagan by-the-sea next week and will be out of pocket. Take care, Karen

Author's reply

I'm glad for the chance to go back to just the family and write about elflings too. I like the opportunity to get into Legolas's head and think like a kid. :-) Poor Thranduil. He loved his wife and loves her still and the memories are painful as well as sweet. I'm starting on chapter 2 today, so I don't know when it will be done but I have a pretty good outline, so I think it will go quickly. But it will be there when you get back. :-)

nessie · 21 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

Yay! This story came sooner than I expected! Ah, how I missed Turgon. I'm pretty sure the mice are going to cause trouble later on! I could just imagine the looks on some of the Elves faces if they saw four little mice running around the palace with different colored ribbons tied to their tails! I'm glad there are going to be flashbacks in this story. Anyways, loved it and update asap! ~nessie~

Author's reply

Thank you, nessie. I miss Turgon too. He's really a good hearted kid, but he needs a parent like Thranduil, rather than the ones he has. The mice cause trouble??? Surely not. :-)

esamen · 21 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

“Why is it called a begetting day?” Turgon asked, setting his piece of bread carefully on the edge of the table. “What does ‘begetting’ mean?” Much to Thranduil’s dismay, the child looked at him expectantly, waiting for an answer. Indeed, as he glanced around the table, he found the three elflings and his two older sons all looking at him with interest. Really, daw! You insist on going here! What are we to do with you! Too funny . . . Thranduil rising to the occasion. I hope we all get to find out what the other definition of "begetting day" was that Legolas heard. Now, I hope the mice don't get into the storeroom . . . Legolas might wind up in trouble . . . I'm sure you've got some surprise in store for us up your talented sleeve. My goodness, you're being prolific this summer! Another marvelous story! Do you write 24/7? Definitely great news for all us readers. Thanks for sharing your vision . . .

Author's reply

I think we all already KNOW the definition of begetting day that Turgon offered. He's one of those kids who just somehow knows stuff that other kids' parents wish he didn't. And really, haven't you ever wondered how elves explain that to their kids? A begetting day? Thranduli did pretty well all things considered, but he 's an experienced parent. I write as much as I can in the summer when I have less work to do. In the last week, I've actually worked at what I get paid for (although not in the summer) a fair amount, but I sure didn't do much else when I was writing "Tangled Web."

Jule · 21 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

This was so adorable. Legolas, Annael and Turgon sound like the cutest elflings, even more so because of their mischief. Is Thranduil crazy?. He knows their up to something yet leave Eilian in charge, Elian with an ellyth on the the brain. The King even says she can come over. I love Eilian. He is one of my favorite characters but I just know this is going to go badly. The part about Legolas being born is great but where is Eilian. I can't wait to see what happens next. Thanks for writing. Jule

Author's reply

This made me laugh, Jule! You are so right on about Eilian! What was Thranduil thinking??? We should find out a little more about what Eilian was doing when Legolas was born in the next chapter. At least, I hope we will.

White Wolf · 21 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

Turgon's question and everyone's reaction to it was so funny. I applaud Ithilden and Eilian for restraining themselves as well as they managed to do. Those elflings and all they went through to identify the little mice and give them a good home was so endearing. I'm wondering if they (the mice) are going to get loose in the palace. I'm sure the elflings scrambling around trying to catch them before Thranduil found out would be a riot. Of course, yuo may something else just as funny in mind.

Author's reply

Ithilden and Eilian enjoyed themselves a little too much from Thranduil's POV! They kids did try to take good care of the mice -- make them a nice home, feed them, and so on. I think they're being pretty optimistic to believe that a towel is going to hold their pets in the corner there. :-)

mistry89 · 21 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

Have always like the family dynamics and the way the characters of the 3 friends mesh and bounce off each other - none exactly alike, none totally predictable, and yet none ooc without reason. “Is this the kind of nothing it is better for Adar not to know about?” Just like the children of Men ... and yet indisputably elflings - the similarities are enough to draw parallels and the differences highlight their "alien-ness". 'Nuff said, am delighted to see this and anticipate more! Thanks :)

Author's reply

This was a lovely review. I really appreciate your comments on my characters (whom I love without reason). I thought maybe the elflings' comfort with the mice might be elfy. It's hard to show up their elfiness when it's just elves. It's easier to do when I'm contrasting them to Men or Dwarves. Thank you.

tigerlily713 · 21 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

Food storage is a very valuable lesson to learn. Clever elflings. Great chapter and great new story! I can't wait for more! Lily

Author's reply

Thank you, Lily. I think those elflings should be commended for taking such good care of their pets! After all, taking care of pets is supposed to build responsibility. Maybe Eilian should get a pet too! How about a monkey???

Anonymous · 21 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

The whole scene involving Turgon's question was just priceless. And those poor mice! Once again, another fantastic beginning. I love having your stories to read. May you never run out of ideas.

Author's reply

Turgon's question was one that everyone at the table reacted to! How fun. The older brothers were bad to laugh. I think I'll run out of energy before I run out of ideas. Tolkien is just full of good stuff.

Estel_Mi_Olor · 21 July 2004 · Chapter 1: Visitors Arriving

Yay, another fic! :) I love little Legolas. He is so adorable. This was a very sweet chapter. The mouse idea seems to be working alright-for now. I find it funny how Thranduil is amused by the elflings food-napping. I wonder if his reaction will be the same when he discovers mice in Legolas's room. Well, they are causing no harm, yet... Turgon's begetting question was very funny. At least it amused Ithilden and Eilian. Imagine, they thought they would have a boring evening! But Thranduil answered it with great decorum. His flashback of Legolas's begetting reminds me of Eilian's begetting. Well Cheers for this fic, and I wish Legolas a very happy begetting day.

Author's reply

I suspect there's not an adult in the palace who will be happy about the mice. Adorable as Legolas and his friends are, I'm thinking their pets might not be so welcome. And you're so right about Eilian's begetting (which my beta wrote)! All of Thranduil's kids were conceived out of doors - hence their names. "Ithil" is the Sindarin word for moon, "Eilian" means rainbow, and, of course, "Legolas" means green leaf.