Jewels by Lindelea

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Larner · 17 October 2007 · Chapter 32: A Curious Courtship

Hooray! Ah, Estella, I KNEW you had it in you, discerning artist to see to the heart of the one you draw as you are! You see that Diamond loves Pippin and that you don't; and you're drawn to the one whose smile you've admired since a child and have done your best to bring back. Love the painting as a promise! Ah, how wonderful indeed!

Author's reply

Ah, yes, things are finally sorting themselves out. And yes, Estella is very discerning. Sharp as a tack, that one, and somewhat spoilt, but she has a good heart and a direct method of dealing with life.

Larner · 12 October 2007 · Chapter 31: Bird in a Trap

All right, Estella--I think it's time for you to show YOUR mettle! Excellent title! Hughes was up and down all day, and now I've told them to either straighten out this mess or come take their modem and let me get another ISP that is at least dependable, no matter how slow it might be. This is ridiculous!

Author's reply

Ah, yes, you're right. I think it is time, too, and so does Estella. Am sorry your ISP is giving you such fits. *hugs*

Larner · 4 October 2007 · Chapter 30: Stable Conversations

Time indeed to call for Diamond to come, I think. The idea of marrying someone not of his own choice and against his inclinations is working against Pippin's recovery. Ah, Paladin--what you have wrought! Your lad needs acceptance, not ordering about!

Author's reply

*sigh* You have the right of it. And somehow it makes me think of Denethor. We had a long discussion of Denethor today, in the LOTR literature class that I am co-teaching. Interestingly, the other teacher has a firmly movie-version Denethor in his mind, and even reading the book, his opinions were clearly coloured by the film depiction. Against that foil I could see more clearly Denethor as tragic figure, noble though fatally flawed. It made for a thought-provoking discussion.

Larner · 26 September 2007 · Chapter 29: A Different Kind of Darkness

So, Paladin would see Pippin married to Estella, would he? While Pippin is still remembering a certain farmer's daughter from the Northfarthing, although not with enough relish at the moment, I fear. Okay, Merry, it's time for you to waken to the realization that this is the one you are meant to marry, and to send for Diamond to tend to Pippin to reawaken him to life.

Author's reply

Yes, Paladin is thinking of Estella's money and her family's influence, I think, in his continuing struggle to keep the Tookland going. At least it wasn't ravaged by ruffians. Hmmm. Your solution sounds very plausible!

FantasyFan · 18 September 2007 · Chapter 28: Father and Son

I read your response to Pearl's review - I agree the relationship between Pippin and his father is a sad one, but so true in real life that parents and children don't always understand each other. I noticed two edits in this chapter from the original that are pertinant to the discussion, the first being Saradoc's ruminations on how his friendship with Paladin foundered and died, victim of Paladin's response to the stress of the Thainship, a job he really never wanted, a job that came with more pressures than he was equipped to manage, and further destroyed by what I see as Saradoc's disapproval of how Paladin managed his rascal of a son. I don't know if you want to point Pearl to Knitting Socks, a very early story not on this site, where Pip and Paladin have given up on each other immediately prequest; it also speaks of Pip's relationship with Merry's parents. I think some of the things you've written since don't have exactly the same tone, but then this is an early story as well. (The other edit I noticed clarifies that Paladin did know that Merry and Pip were responsible for the missing teeth, and when not in their presence was able to rejoice in their prank. It's too bad we can say to others what we can't say to those closest to us.) Teach your children well, Their father's hell did slowly go by, And feed them on your dreams The one they picked, the one you'll know by. Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry, So just look at them and sigh and know they love you. By the way, I am intrigued by the mention of new stories on the horizon, and totally tantalized by the thought of a whole folder of stories in a sort of Lindelea-AU universe, that might keep us reading for a long while more!

Author's reply

True, this is one of the earliest, and Socks came not too long after. That's one reason why this one is being revised, and Socks in on the list for revision (why it's not posted here) to bring it more into line with the later stories. Ah, I love that song, bittersweet as it is. Lovely harmonies. Very sharp of you, to catch the edits! Ah, yes, "Farry and Ferdi go to Gondor" has been in the works a long time, along with a story of Marcho and Blanco, another of Bandobras, and the "new" story that popped up when I wasn't writing at all, but tantalised me when I was ill and exhausted, about Pippin's matchmaking on Nell and Ferdi's behalf. And I'd love to finish the story of Hally and Rosemary one of these days... As to that folder of possible AUs, it's there, waiting. However, some of the characters would be so very different, because of differences in other characters. I cannot quite imagine Ferdibrand, for example, or Reginard. In my brain they are the same people, only living in a parallel universe with a different history. Interesting problem. Author Reply: am rambling now, way too short on sleep. And then there's the story of Freddy and Mellie's move south, though I'd need a whole lot of medical advice/research for that one, to work out just what the Houses of Healing could do for a ticky heart that the local Shire healer couldn't do...

Pearl Took · 17 September 2007 · Chapter 28: Father and Son

*sigh* I oughtn't have read this. How can you bear to have them be this way? It takes all the joy out of being a Took. Ah well. We all have our different takes on the lives of our hobbits. And I haven't read your story where I think you said you explain why your Paladin is so horrid. *sigh* It just breaks my heart as I don't think you ever allow him any redemption. As I recall he dies with Pippin still hating him. You do write beautifully, dear Lin, I just wish I didn't take the subject to heart so badly.

Author's reply

*sigh* Am on my way to bed but will try to append a couple of links. Pippin grows in wisdom and does not die hating his father, I'm glad to say, though he establishes firm boundaries and will not cross them; thus, he never goes back to the Tookland while his father is living, but they do meet and talk when Farry is about two years old, and make as much peace as they can. And yes, there is redemption, even for a stubborn old hobbit and an independent young one. But the link will have to wait for morning, for I have only one eye half-open. *hugs* Bless you for being brave enough to read, and bold enough to speak. Author Reply: p.s. if you were to read "A Healer's Tale" you'd see a young, unencumbered, and loving Paladin, before becoming Thain stole his joy. In "Pearl of Great Price" you see some of the strains on Paladin, and in "Thain" they become even clearer, though it is more Pippin's story than Paladin's; and "Thain" shows how Paladin loved his son even though he didn't always know what to do. I've talked about this with Marigold before, and in a folder I have an entirely different cycle of Shire stories where the Thainship is completely different, and Paladin and Pippin have a warm and loving relationship that doesn't change when Pippin is twenty-five, but continues to Paladin's death. Someday perhaps I'll be able to write those stories, but the Muse is sort of stuck in the current cycle until we reach some sort of finishing point. (Finishing "Thain", for one, and another story of Ferdi and Nell that drafted itself a few months ago, and "Ferdi and Farry go to Gondor" which is three-quarters written, and possibly the story of Ferdi's sister, which was started but laid gently on the shelf some time ago.) And just to let you know, it breaks my heart, too, and yet it gives great scope for exploring relationships and for character development, hard-hearted as that may sound. But a few specific links tomorrow, truly, if all goes well. (And if you haven't completely lost confidence in me. Yikes.) Author Reply: It seems I get most of my computer time these days when I can hardly keep my eyes open. Up past bedtime, and the alarm's due to ring in 5 hours. I've got to hit the pillow. It struck me that one of the links I was going to paste here is a later chapter in this very story. Another chapter I meant to link to--where Pippin looks in the Yellow Book on his first evening as Thain, and finds that his father has not only not crossed his name out of the Book, but wrote in Faramir's name to celebrate his grandson's birth; and in another scene speaks with joy to Eglantine about their son--is in a story that's been taken offline. That's not much help. But in short, Paladin was a loving father--perhaps too loving, unwise in indulging Pippin and allowing his wife and daughters to spoil him, making the lad difficult as a tween. And then Paladin never expected to be Thain. His grandfather had renounced the Thainship when he'd left the Great Smials, but somehow the paper was lost. It was a terrible surprise to Paladin to hear that he'd follow Ferumbras. And then when he took over the Tookland, he found that the Thain's fortune had disappeared, and he had next to no money to accomplish his duties. He got bad advice, to go on and pretend as if nothing was wrong, and it was a terrible strain. It didn't help that Pippin was not acting as his father's prop and stay, but rather getting into scrapes and generating gossip with his actions. And then the last straw: Paladin had hopes for Estella's dowry, to help the financial situation, and then Pippin had to fall in love with the daughter of a comfortable (but not wealthy) farmer! When Pippin refused to return to the Great Smials, it tore the heart out of him. Worse, he flew into a rage, and burst a small blood vessel. The resulting stroke changed him greatly. However, he never stopped loving his son; he just didn't know how to let Pippin be himself, and that's why Pippin maintained his distance for the rest of Paladin's Thainship. That probably doesn't help you much, but it's the storyline that runs through *this* version of Shire stories, though not the (unpublished as yet) alternate version. Author Reply: I got your email, and the Muse is chewing over the contents... no time for writing , the next day or two, but that'll give it time to percolate in the back of my brain. *hugs*

Larner · 17 September 2007 · Chapter 28: Father and Son

Having a grandmother who sought ever to keep us within the mold she thought we must fit, I can certainly appreciate Pippin's frustration with his father.

Author's reply

Know what you mean. (wince)

harrowcat · 11 September 2007 · Chapter 27: The Old Gaffer's Friend

Oh Pippin..... Just don't get addicted to this medicine Sory I've got behind in reviews. Decided to start again with a clean slate! BTW - Taters!, Roots! = Tolkien. Tubers come from PERN and Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders - sorry!

Author's reply

Ah, so that's why "tubers" sounded so familiar! Thanks! I'd imagine that he wouldn't have much chance to get addicted to the medicine... it's probably very rare and costly and Ossilan would use it sparingly indeed. And it's always nice to hear from you.

Pearl Took · 11 September 2007 · Chapter 27: The Old Gaffer's Friend

I'm hanging in there . . . what terrible choices illness often presents us with! Poor Merry!

Author's reply

I'm glad you're hanging in there. There are a few difficult chapters to get through, but a lot of joy ahead.

Larner · 10 September 2007 · Chapter 27: The Old Gaffer's Friend

At least he came, the stubborn old Hobbit! And Took black humor along with him! Poor Paladin! And the new medicine appears to be helping.

Author's reply

Alas, poor Paladin! Yes, the new medicine is helping, I'm glad to say. It was a dangerous gamble on the healer's part, but it worked out.

Larner · 4 September 2007 · Chapter 26: Fear Unspoken

Alas, Pippin--wanting to help teach Heart, but so ill. Ah, Paladin--now would be the right time to accept your son! I know he survives, but he is SO ill! Hold onto him, Merry!

Author's reply

Alas... Hope you made it home again ok!

Pearl Took · 3 September 2007 · Chapter 26: Fear Unspoken

Poor Pip! We'll have to see how it goes with Paladin . . . Well written as always, dear Lin :-)

Author's reply

Thanks! Alas, poor Paladin, I knew him well...

Pearl Took · 30 August 2007 · Chapter 25: One Year Later

I'm so glad they found him in time!! I recently read a book called "The Children's Blizzard" a true account about a prairie blizzard in the late 1800s that killed many school children because in much of the area, it hit during the day and they were sent home from the schools only to get caught out in the storm. This had me thinking of that book. I look forward to more :-)

Author's reply

I remember reading a book about a more recent blizzard, in the 30s or 40s, I think, that hit Minnesota around Veteran's Day. A lot of hunters and fishermen perished, I think, and a whole train full of people were stranded.

Larner · 30 August 2007 · Chapter 25: One Year Later

A bad time to become ill, I fear. At least Socks followed orders and fetched help. But is this the start of the respiratory failure he faces in the future? Love Heart sitting by him afraid of waking him.

Author's reply

Yes, a bad time. You're right, this is the start of his serious lung problems, compounding the damage done by the troll. This is also the start of Ferdi's downfall--he was supposed to be Pippin's escort, and Paladin (unfairly, perhaps) blames him for Pippin going out into an ice storm alone. Are you coming down Labor Day? We're still planning to do tea but not sure which day.

harrowcat · 25 August 2007 · Chapter 24: Another Nephew's Visit

I love all the details in this chapter Lindelea. Yes, look under your nose Merry, Estella has been there all along!

Author's reply

LOL! How often we take the familiar for granted!

Larner · 20 August 2007 · Chapter 24: Another Nephew's Visit

Oh, bless the forethought--and the trading! Heh! The painting sounds so wonderful!

Author's reply

LOL, trading for brandy, imagine it! (I love the image of that painting in my mind's eye. Sure wish I could draw...)

Pearl Took · 20 August 2007 · Chapter 24: Another Nephew's Visit

Aw, good of the lad to come when he knew Merry would be needing him. And the portrait is a lovely gift. They really do need to believe him occasionally ;-) Well done!

Author's reply

LOL, they really do! (And if Merry did suffer from an anniversary illness, I'm sure that Pippin would be there.) Thanks!

Pearl Took · 16 August 2007 · Chapter 23: The Old and the New

I do remember reading this before, with all the little remembrance boats. such a beautiful scene :-) Pip could probably use some good hard work. *G*

Author's reply

Aw, thanks. Hmm. Good, hard work. I'll pass that on to the Powers That Be. *g*

Larner · 14 August 2007 · Chapter 23: The Old and the New

Joy to them as the pain eases. It never dies, but it does ease.

Author's reply

So very true. *hugs*

FantasyFan · 14 August 2007 · Chapter 23: The Old and the New

The remembrance day tradition is so comforting. Grief shared is grief halved, because there's nothing like being reminded you're not alone in your sorrow to help lessen it. I like the idea of combining this custom with the blowing of the horn of Rohan on the battle anniversary. Tolkien says that hearing the horn brings joy to the hearts of friends. It somehow feels very hobbity to end a ceremony that is so inherently sad with a reminder that sadness and troubles end, that life goes on and can become joyful again. Very lovely. Later at Yule, song brings light to those who are still in gloom. And later yet, Pippin's light-hearted jests overlie a lot of apprehension about the future. It's been a hard half-year for them all, but they're still trying to retain that essential core of hope for the future, if not cheer in the present.

Author's reply

I had forgotten what JRRT said about the blowing of the horn, but you've reminded me. I'm certainly glad that I didn't get it the other way round in the writing! I think of the ceremony at the hospice when my dad died. They covered him with a special memorial quilt, and he looked as if he was sleeping. They brought a bottle of Asti and one of sparkling cider and we toasted him (the children too) and told stories and laughed and cried together--more laughter than tears, for the stories were all the funniest and fondest ones; and they left us alone until the glasses were empty and we had no more words to say, only hugs. It was a lovely leave-taking, bittersweet, but a good way to say good-bye, if one had no choice but to say it. Yes, you caught that nicely, about Pippin's jests. It's not always easy to manage that hobbity custom of speaking lightly, but I do my best.

Pearl Took · 9 August 2007 · Chapter 22: Sorrow Shared

I've played catch-up and not left reviews at every chapter. Well, well written. You did a wonderful job of enough sorrow to hurt the heart but not so much as to have us feel crushed by it. It is sad that such things do happen, we never know what plans that we've made will be missed. MEWD on all of these chapters!

Author's reply

Hullo, Pearl! The little ones are sleeping in this a.m., and so I am stealing some time from the needs of the day to answer reviews, and hopefully leave a few! (Read the latest chapter of your and Golden's story yesterday but got interrupted in reviewing.) It is always nice to hear from you, even if you are playing catch-up! I used to try to leave a review after every chapter I read, but lately I only do that when reading each-chapter-as-it's-posted, and on stories with lots of chapters already posted when I start my reading, it's a little more hit-or-miss. (It used to be much easier when the little ones took a daily nap and I had more time for reading and writing!) There is sorrow in life, but there is also joy, and the two tend to alternate... I have tried to write "real" as much as possible, over the years, and while sometimes I have to contrive a bit to get a satisfying ending, I still hope that the stories reflect real life, and real issues. It is always an honour to receive one of your MEWD pats on the back.

Larner · 8 August 2007 · Chapter 22: Sorrow Shared

The healing is begun, and Diamond and Pippin prepare for the day they will themselves marry. The poor North-Tooks; and love Saradoc's intent to do what he can, even if it is but to comfort--although that was needed most!

Author's reply

Yes, or at least Pippin does. Diamond is not yet old enough for more than sisterly love... but Pippin is willing to wait. I don't remember where that idea came from, originally, but it was some novel or other. Little Women, perhaps? Or maybe Anne of Green Gables? Not sure. Sometimes comfort is all we can offer, and it never seems enough, even then. Thanks!

Mysterious Jedi · 2 August 2007 · Chapter 21: Message from an Absent Cousin

Excellent as always, Lindelea. Just as good the second time, especially when it's been a few years! Keep up the good work.

Author's reply

Thanks for the good word! Glad to have you along.

Larner · 31 July 2007 · Chapter 21: Message from an Absent Cousin

Prescience such as Frodo's must have been as much a burden at times as it was a blessing. Poor Hobbits, both Frodo and Merry. And Sam is there to love them both and comfort them both as they need it.

Author's reply

Yes. You know, when I wrote this, I wasn't sure if Frodo had a foreseeing of this day (what agony that would be! and not to be able to tell Merry about it...) or if he just knew that Merry would be dogged by Shadow the rest of his life, and that life has its inevitable sorrows, even tragedies. Since he did have a foreseeing of Sam's children (though didn't he name them a little out of order? I think so, anyhow), it's possible he knew this day would happen. *sigh* But there is the Feast to come, and if it's anything like we have here, since there's no marrying or giving in marriage in the beyond, according to something I read somewhere, it won't matter to Merry when he meets both Ruby and Estella there in the end. (Just one big happy family! What a thought!)

FantasyFan · 31 July 2007 · Chapter 21: Message from an Absent Cousin

How sad this chapter is. How horribly sad. A parent burying their child is sad, but even sadder yet is the loss of the bright promise of the day. It was to be a day filled with the essence of hope: focused on the future, bound with promises that last beyond death. Now, Merry can see nothing for the future. Even existance beyond the very moment of 'now' cannot be faced. The past is all he has left of Ruby, but it is over and gone, and there is no refuge there. Even Pippin cannot reach him, but Frodo can. And it is out of his own pain that Frodo does reach him, and in that shared pain Merry can hear him and remember that there is a thing such as light, and that even in this utter darkness remember his promise. It is so very, very sad. I find myself thinking of the North-Took family. After Jewels, we don't really see them, even though Diamond obviously remains a vital part of Pippin's ongoing story. I wonder how well they were able to recover from this tragedy. They are good strong hobbits, sensible and hard-working, a loving family. But I don't think we ever see them visiting their daughter in Buckland where Pippin first settles, or later at the Smials once he is Thain. Not even for Forget-me-not's naming day. Was it too hard for them to see Merry in Buckland, who should have been a son-in-love to them? Was even Pippin eventually too much of a reminder of what they had lost? I hope it did not come to that; I hope that Diamond remained close to her family, just off canvas, so to speak. I do feel very bad for them.

Author's reply

You know, I read your thoughts on the North-Took family, pondering, thinking what the Muse intended (not just what I would want, if that doesn't sound too schizophrenic). Of course there are no later chapters posted here as of yet, but the North-Tooks do visit Buckland after this, at least up until the wedding, and though we don't see them in the glimpses of Buckland after that I think that there were still frequent letters, and as much visiting as farm life allowed. (It's just that those visits take place "off canvas" as you said. They weren't visiting Buckland during the spring flooding, for instance. In point of fact I think that Merry remains a sort of honorary son to the North-Tooks, with all that entails: birthday presents, visits whenever he can get away--which is probably not often--or whenever they can take a holiday--again, with the needs of the farm, not often--and that sort of thing). I can think of a few more reasons you wouldn't see such visits in other stories. One is that I don't spend a lot of time in Buckland; I seem to have got my head stuck in the Tookland much of the time. Another is that a visit by the North-Tooks would have to be carefully handled so as not to sound contrived, what with all the filling in of background and explanations for readers unfamiliar with Jewels. It is a tricky business, weaving stories together and yet making them able to stand alone. I hope that I succeed most of the time. Sometimes I will throw in an unrelated character (unrelated to the current story) when I can fit him/her/them in naturally (like Budgie and his little family appearing at Michel Delving in StarFire), but the North-Tooks at Buckland (after Pippin leaves and goes to Tookland, that is) seems a bit of a stretch. Even though those visits continued, they weren't germane to any of the plots that have arisen so far, and thus not pictured nor mentioned. Not to mention that these visits would probably have been happy times (a little bittersweet, perhaps, remembering Ruby and Thom) and thus not easy to write about. (Angst is easy to write about, humour slightly harder but still easier than everyday, mundane cheer.) I imagine, with their generous spirits, that the North-Tooks adopted Estella as a sort of honorary daughter-in-love, as a matter of fact, and considered Merry's and her children as grandchildren-niece-nephew-cousins (depending on whose perspective). Whew, am particularly groggy this morning. Did I clear things up, or muddy them? Author Reply: BTW, Forget-Me-Not's and Merigrin's Naming Day happened in March or April, didn't it? I think so, anyhow. The North-Tooks would likely have been in the middle of spring planting at the time. I'd think they'd send presents to the Naming, if not able to attend themselves. Perhaps a few bottles of Pearl's Dandelion Wine, and/or Raspberry Cordial ("wine for joy")... Author Reply: oh, wait, I just remembered. The accident/birth happened after Merry's bout with the Shadow, so the Naming did take place in April, and not "March or April"... I am spamming you this morning, apologies. But the second cup of tea is beginning to kick in, and that is a good thing, I think. Author Reply: Came back to reply to Larner's review and had one more thought to tack on. Was musing this morning about how JRRT situated Lithedays on the calendar... in between the bigger harvests, at a time when the farmers would likely be able to get away for a day or two, with their neighbours or hired hands covering for the care of the animals. He said somewhere that most marriages in the Shire took place in the Spring, and I was thinking it must be either when the ground is still too wet to plough, or after sowing's done. And then the Lithedays, with the Free Fair every seventh year (and the election of the Mayor) happens after the early harvests of hay and strawberries, but before the barley and vegetable harvests begin. (The wheat harvest is in there too, somewhere, I forget whether it's before or after barley.) Anyhow, I'm amazed all over again at the attention he gave to detail. Author Reply: p.s. I got your email a few days back, but lost it somehow (must have saved it to the wrong folder as it is not in any of the folders where one would logically expect to find it) and so I can't send a reply! I remember it was about a discrepancy, but for the life of me I can't remember which stories. *sigh* Sorry about that!