I wonder what the archery master was thinking when he saw Legolas' empty quiver? This might be my favorite of the young legolas' stories so far. Thank you for writing it and sharing!
Author's reply
The archery master must have wondered what was up! He'd surely know that Legolas wouldn't just fluff this assignment off. But I think he's a good teacher, so he knows not to pry too much, especially with both big brothers watching!
Thanks for telling me you liked this story. It was fun to write.
daw
endorearwen
· 14 August 2013
· Chapter 10: True Colors
Once again, you've written an excellent story, Daw! I love the increasing complexity you are building into Legolas' world with each story! I love the caring gestures the three boys made when the Mannish child was ill after so many days without food. Legolas' generosity in everything he does is most endearing. My favourite lines come from Eilian: "Hiding a stray boy was such a Legolas thing to do. Their father must have had kittens when he heard about it." I have two favourite images from this story - the three brothers at the edge of the training field in the last chapter and Thranduil comforting Rodda in the cottage when they first meet.
The sons of Elrond are always a bit of mystery, and not necessarily a pleasant one as this story shows. I like the growth of Eilian's character as he informs them of his opinion of their behaviour. I do believe you'll make a man of him yet! ;-) Well, on to the next one...
Author's reply
Writing the sons of Elrond is tricky. At least, I found it so. There's a whole lot of fanon about them and not much canon. Although actually, that's true about Thranduil too. But I didn't want to show them as pranksters or as killing machines either. I wanted them with thousands of years of learning and dignity, but off kilter for very good reasons. I wanted both those things to come through at once, so that was hard.
It's also tricky to show Thranduil's feelings about other races. At the end of The Hobbit, Tolkien says there was friendship between elves and men and dwarves in that part of ME, but I decided Thranduil had to work his way to get there. And I do believe that elves would never let a child suffer if they could help it.
The other part of this story that I found hard to write was the magic. I'm a very practical person. Writing magic always makes me gibber.
Thanks for the kind words, endorearwen. I think you're reading Visitors maybe? You'll get lots of Ithilden in that one. :-)
erunyauve
· 18 June 2006
· Chapter 10: True Colors
Ooop! I hit return by accident there.
You know, I think I love your stories for entirely narcissistic reasons - you agree with me on nearly everything. One of my WIPs has a scene in which Thranduil's reaction to the twins is very similar to the way you've pictured it. I also really liked the scene in which Mithrandir mentions that he wishes to spend time with Legolas. No doubt, he must have foreseen that Legolas had a great destiny.
The explanation for the Enchanted River is wonderful. And I laughed out loud at Elrohir's observation that "Thranduil may find that fostering a Mannish boy is a demanding task." You point out the differences in the twins' understanding of men in comparison with the Woodland Elves - I especially liked the little detail about the Rangers having more skill as trackers than the men of Esgaroth.
Author's reply
Erunyauve! I haven't seen you in an age!
Bringing the twins into the Woodland Realm and trying to guess how everyone would react to one another was a lot of fun. I'd guess that Thranduil would react differently to the twins depending on where we were in the Third Age and what was happening. At this period in the twins' life though, they looked like trouble to me and it sound like to you too.
I always hesitate to write magic because I'm kind of practical myself, which is probably why this is a little understated. It was fun though. Glad you enjoyed it.
Dot
· 3 October 2005
· Chapter 10: True Colors
I was just doing some bedtime reading and the scene with Thranduil putting the enchantment on the river sent such a thrill through me. I read the whole story and had to come back again to this bit. I love it. There’s such a wonderful air of expectancy beforehand and the magic itself seems so natural and yet deep and powerful. The bond between Thranduil and his forest is beautiful and Thranduil himself seems to possess a strength and majesty in that moment that’s just breathtaking. I can’t really express it. It’s amazing. It’s magic. Sorry, but I had to tell you, even though I know I must have said it before. I won’t bother mentioning how much I love Ithilden here ;-) Anyway, it was a perfect last scene to read before heading bedwards…!
Author's reply
I was thinking about this story just the other day. I like the little boy in it and the way Legolas reacts to him, knowing that he's afraid for instance. And I like Amdir the troublemaker in it. If the book I'm trying to sell right now never flies, I wonder if this story would make a better basis for an original fic. I'd have to think about it.
Anyway, thanks for the kind words, Dot. I always hesitate before showing magic, so I'm glad this came across well.
Poor Rodda! That is a terrible story, he must feel so guilty for running away. Legolas has a huge heart for a young elf. The gift of clothing was easy enough but to give away the arrows that he worked hard to fletch and contained the special feathers from his brother, that was hard. Rodda picked the right friend to share his story with.
Thranduils snorting about the guard with the merchant made me laugh out loud. The pair is probably in more danger in the throne room than in the forest. I am glad Eilian was so pleased about working with men. It was a new experience for him and it went spectacularly well. I think everyone is relieved that his time with the twins will leave him calmer and more mature, rather than re-awakening his rage and pain. Thranduil should be pleased. (Poor Cudry - I am looking forward to this!)
Legolas' little chat with Mithrandir was cute. I could tell he was chafing at the interruption to his little plan. I believe he was quite transparent to Mithrandir.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Poor Cudry! I knew he was doomed! I would not piss off Thranduil for all of the wine in his cellar! Ithiden's support was amusing. Your punishment certainly fit the crime. Legolas' timing could have been better but I am glad to see him come clean.
Your Parent Thranduil is as wise as your King Thranduil. He handled both his own son and the scared human with a lot of skill. He must not have been surprised that the kid was hiding near Turgon. It was to be expected. I was glad Thranduil acknowledge his youngest's generous spirit. Favorite line "The kitchen had apparently decided that satisfying Legolas's appetite was a serious task." ROTFLOL!
AHHH, the enchanted river - I hadn't thought of that... it was a pleasant surprise and an excellent explanation for the source of the spell. No wonder Gandalf warned those crazy dwarves about it ...
The conversation in the garden was very well written. I was glad the twins had paid attention to Eilian's little speech. Having Rodda run into the guard and relieve everyone's concerns about punishment was a good way to resolve it. Sending him back to Esgaroth was the right thing to do.
Very sweet ending, it was, indeed, Legolas' day to shine!
Author's reply
I originally put the arrow fletching in this story just to give them all something to do while they talked to one another, but then the arrows grew into a plot element on their own, and the idea for the ending made me very happy.
And I also enjoyed writing pissed-off Thranduil, stalking around the nasty bad man with Ithilden as his tag team mate. And then he goes and crouches next to the cot in the empty cottage and coaxes Rodda into taking his hand. Rodda doesn't know him as anything except Legolas's father, so it felt sort of like seeing Thranduil as a private person for a change.
I've had in my notes for some time to write about how the Enchanted River got that way. This seemed like a good opportunity to describe some wood-elf magic.
And yes, it was Legolas's day to shine. :-)
Tapetum Lucidum
· 13 January 2005
· Chapter 8: Setting Plans in Motion
The only bad thing about a laptop is that is really hard to leave a coherent review when people keep talking to you. How rude are they?!
I think it is hilarious that Turgon is so certain his parents won't believe his little brother. It is so true! Poor Rodda - he is truly terrified. I hope he didn't accidentally shoot an elf. Your young Legolas is so compassionate, I think that is part of what keeps getting him into trouble.
I liked hearing about Elian's little insecurities and the handshake thing was amusing. Elrohir handled it very smoothly. You did a good job on your men from Esgaroth. It was clear that you gave them a good blend of wanting to recover their dead as well as extracting their revenge - Very realistic. Eilian's internal musings suited him as well. His memories of his mother are obviously still very painful. His thoughts of Legolas and Celuwen are very sweet. Ithilden is, indeed, very clever. Maltanaur would have fallen over laughing at the thought of Elian's musing in sensible actions. Maybe now he understands why Ithilden has to be so clever.
Your orc hunt was very cleverly written. Eilian is wise not to trust those twins!
Thranduil is summoning a merchant to speak with him?! I think the guy is going to learn some new negotiating skills. I feel kind of sorry for him.
Lunch was a most interesting affair. Men are a rather mixed lot but it was good to hear Thranduil admit the same thing about elves. Legolas' increased appetite si probably going hand in hand with his growth spurt. Sometimes I think my boys are going to eat me out of house and home. It is also good to eat a lot at meals to cover his extra, stolen food from the kitchen.
The orc battle was well played. Eilian is a true master at that game, even with a band of misfits. He was correct in not trusting the twins completely. His comments on their recklessness were true enough but not what the Perehdel wanted to hear. Maltanaur was wise to intervene. The findings in the cave were rather gruesome. Poor Rodda really has no one to go home to, his fears of punishment seem unfounded. I am glad Eilian has moved on with his grief.
yay! I have a lot more to read!
Author's reply
You provided me with a good chance here, TL. I finished this story at the end of November and my brain is such a sieve that I had to go back and reread to see what you were talking about. (Lunch? What lunch?) Usually when I first finish a story, I'm sure it's terrible. I'm sick of it and wish I could write better. But when I go back after a while, I think, 'that's not so bad.' And I'm now far enough away from this, that when I went back to reread, that's what I thought. So now I feel good. :-)
Writing about the twins and Eilian was a delicate task. I didn't want to make the twins look crazy or bad. They're suffering. And I wanted to show how Eilian is drawn toward their feelings and then shaken by that fact.
And then, in the meantime, here's the younger set, hiding the boy, fending off Turgon's little brother (he's fun), and trying to figure out what to do. And they are SO in over their heads.
Maltanaur must have gotten some satisfaction from watching Eilian give other people orders not to be rash. LOL
Joee
· 1 January 2005
· Chapter 8: Setting Plans in Motion
I am almsot done this excellent story, but a thought just occured to me. I realise that you write these stories out of order, but I thought I would point out that in Prodigal Sons, Turgon can't speak Westron and yet, in this story, he can talk to Rodda. Somehow I doubt that Rodda can speak elvish, so the only conclusion I can come to is that they are all speaking Westron. Am I wrong in thinking this? I have no real objective in mind by pointing this out, so you can take this information and disregard it if you like.
Author's reply
Ah, Joee, you're so clever! I confess I knew that I was going to have a continuity problem here, but I just couldn't face the thought of writing my way around the language difficulty. So I decided to ignore it and hope that readers wouldn't remember. But on SoA especially, the readers are phenomenal, so you weren't the only one who noticed this.
I don't know how people do this. I have to look everything up even in my own stories. I once had a reviewer ask if I knew the name of Siondel's father (Annael's grandfather) and I said no, and then a different reader pointed out that in "One Year," I had Siondel introduce himself as Siondel Someone-ion, so his father's name was whatever I had put there. How did that person do that?
Tapetum Lucidum
· 25 December 2004
· Chapter 6: Comings and Goings
Uh oh - I think I just sent you a blank review. Eeek! I forgot about Maltanaur. I'm glad you remembered. He would never let the elfling go on his own. His greetings to the twins were a little big stilted - I imagine there is some history there. Maltanaur has a wicked sense of humor - He must be very accustomed to serving with that particular captain. I'm glad Eilian got to tell his little brother good-bye before leaving. It is hard to conceal much when you are young. You think you are cool but you are not. I liked the pucker between Legolas' brows - I saw it several times in the movies.
It seems this group is always having food issues. Annael should plant a garden or something. The intimate dinner with Mithrandir was sweet. Legolas' interest in far away places started early. The comments regarding the men are aptly timed - they are indeed trouble. If the issue with Rodda is enough to throw Legolas off of his sword game it is a bigger deal than I thought. Sounds like he is more stressed than he is letting on. Poor Rodda - things must have been very hard on him since the orc attack. At least he is safe for now. Those 3 will take good care of him. Your siblings are playing an amusing role in this story!
Author's reply
Fortunately, on SoA, deleting blank reviews is easy. :-)
I almost forgot about Maltanaur too. All at once it occurred to me that I had to produce him. He's devoted to Eilian. He'd slap him around himself if he had to, but no one else is going to lead him astray if Maltanaur can help it, and he'd keep his disapproval private. Which Eilian takes advantage of!
Turgon's little brother was fun to produce. He acts like the younger sibs of friends I had as a kid. What a terror! And yet, he 's cute.
These three are going to try to take care of Rodda, but they may be in over their head.
Tapetum Lucidum
· 25 December 2004
· Chapter 4: Animals in the Forest
Tired of these stories? Not likely. I have always loved series of books - I am lazy and don't like to remember new names. Fanfiction is the best thing since sliced bread. I especially like the familial relationships in your stories. You have a fresh perspective on their relationships and the royalty factor as well.
Dinner sounded a bit awkward. No one wants to be in a crowded room of people on display when they are grieving. The twins handled it well. Ithilden did a good job rescuing them. I would be very nervous if Mithrandir was interested in my kids too. Legolas' departure was cute. It would be hard to have the King see you off on a camping trip. I was glad he understood. Eilian is a very social creature- I have no doubt that his popularity pleased him. Sondil is very brave.
Eilian's encounter with the twins must have been exciting for the warrior. Any chance he has to improve his sword skills is a big, fun time. Their little conversation in the glade was uncomfortable. His brother should have warned him. Swapping the conversation to strategy was a good move.
Caridd would be wise to accept Thranduil's offer. Sounds like things are going downhill very quickly. It must have been hard to let the evil creatures escape but the wounded were more important. I am glad it so hard for everyone to let it go.
Sounds like you did your woodcraft homework too. The activities in which the young ones are engaged sound realistic. I always liked how all of your characters have their own strenghts, ie Annael's woodcraft. A lot of authors have one or two perfect characters and no one else is good at anything. Galelas is still in brat mode - at least we know he improves later on. At least his older brother did not escort him to the camp.
The twins are still pretty distraught, the conversation about the band of orcs was not one of their finer moments. I can't really blame them for wanting to demolish the creatures. The wood elves may even be grateful for the help this week. I am looking forward to seeing all of this activity converge.
Author's reply
I did do my woodcraft homework. I'm a complete city girl myself so I was a blank slate. And I found all kinds of cool stuff. I could barely keep myself from telling readers all the things you could learn from coyote poop.
Eilian is feel ambivalent about the twins. He recognizes their feelings and is both fascinated and cautious. He does not want to go down that road again! And yet, he responds to their fury.
I love Annael. He is such a sweet kid. Thranduil must thank his lucky stars every night that at least one of Legolas's friends is sensible.
Tapetum Lucidum
· 25 December 2004
· Chapter 2: Visitors and Families
Hi! I am still alive but my PC was not. I got a cool laptop for Christmas! Using it with my wireless cable modem is Great! My husband just wanted to see me more so now I can read fanfiction while he watches TV. What could be better? A new story and a half from Daw!
This is starting off very sweet so far. I love how young Legolas covets his time with his father. My rugrats ran off as soon as their friends next door invited them over. Not that I am complaining...
The men of Esgaroth better get their act together or they are going to lose some good customers. The Woodland king should be irate - he depends on them to keep his people safe and they are obviously not doing a good job.
I am looking forward to see how you relate the twins' grief to that of the Thranduilion(s) - How do you make that plural? It seems they will all handle it differently. I was glad Thranduil could tell the twins apart - nice touch. Poor Eilian got stuck with babysitting duty. I would think he and the twins would make a dangerous combination. I kind of feel sorry for any orcs nearby.
I also kind of feel sorry for Turgon - his house seems very chaotic. His parents inattentive, and his younger brother a challenge. His arrows sound very distinctive. I am glad Legolas also gets some quality time from Eilian - he is definitely his hero. Betting on horses? That was cute. Legolas should definitely be grateful for his family. Great start!
Author's reply
Wow, TL. I thought you might have gotten tired of these stories. Or busy. That had occurred to me too. You do seem to have a full life. And I don't want to sound like I'm nagging. Review are always a gift, and no one owes them. Anyway, glad to hear from you and it sounds as if you got a great gift.
Legolas does crave the attention of his family, especially his very busy father. I looked up lots of stuff about arrows for this story and then enjoyed using it.
Making the twins appear was also fun but tricky. I wanted to respect their dignity as 2500 year old elven warriors. I wanted to show they were now, but also suggest that that wasn't how they usually were. And I wanted to show the subtle differences between Rivendell and Mirkwood. So it was challenge.
I feel terribly sorry for Turgon. His parents are unloving. They accept his "different" aesthetic sense, for instance. They are just on another planet.
LKK
· 14 December 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
What a wonderful story, daw! I read it last night, but my computer froze before I could leave you a review. When I came here this morning to review it, I found myself rereading half of it all over again. LOL
There are so many things in here that I enjoyed. I loved the attention to detail you showed during the tracking trip. Anneal's wood elf nature really gave him a chance to shine. Too often, our quietest elfling is over-powered by his more rambunctious friends. The little tidbit about the female fox ... I didn't know that. I believe it because I know how you work hard to get the little details right.
Is this the first time you've written about the twins? I think that it is. You did a wonderful job of mixing their grief turned to revenge. Their singlemindedness, almost a blindness, was clear. I'm glad that they may be coming to the end of the first stage of their grief.
I liked your explanation for how the Enchanted River became enchanted. Were you the one who posed the question on the list? Your solution was inventive and plausible. And since canon doesn't provide a definite answer, it's a good solution to the problem.
One thing that really came through for me is how the Legolas of the quest -- the elf who was so willing to help and become friends with members of other races -- came to be. The adult elf is an extension of the child. Thranduil's bemused wonderment about his youngest son being so willing to go so far for his friends. Elian's thought about how hiding a boy was "so Legolas". This child will definitely grow into Tolkien's elf.
Like I said, a wonderful story. It's on my favorites list. :)
Now, hurry up and finished your current story so that I can read that one too! ;)
LKK
Author's reply
Thank you, LKK.
I was surprised about the tracking stuff too. I found a ton of stuff on line about various things you can learn from tracks and other things and it turned out you can tell male from female in some animals, depending on how they walk. Who knew??? I did love having Annael be so happy buzzing around the woodcraft teacher. He wasn't showing off. He was just like a duck taking a swim.
I mentioned the twins briefly in "Question of Duty" but this was the first time I really tried to write about them and it was tricky because I wanted to communicate what they were usually like as well as what they were like at the moment. And I wanted to show them as 2500 year old sons of Elrond.
It wasn't me who posed the question about the Enchanted River. It was Elliska and I was startled to see it because I had this magic scene planned already. I'm looking forward to seeing how she handles it too.
One of the things about these pre-quest tales is that our knowledge of the characters' future is always there for us so everything that takes them there has an extra resonance, I think.
I'm working on the next story, but between the end of the semester stuff and the holiday stuff and the EE of ROTK, I'm afraid I'm slower than usual.
dr_seuss_is_cool
· 8 December 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
Hello Daw!
I would like to apologize profusely. I'm sorry that i haven't reviewed since...well, a long time. I am just so sorry. I don't think that you'll probably even want to read another long apology from me so I'll go on to the short review that i was able to write quickly.
I loved the part where Thranduil is with the water. To me it seemed very un-Thranduilish behavior but I loved it. I have to tell you that if I had to pick anyone in your stories that I love the most. It would be Eilian. I've fallen in love. I thoroughly enjoyed all the parts with Rodda. I loved how the twins were in this story. I've always wondered how you would portray them. Well, thank you so much! Again, I'm sorry for ignoring the leave review button for so long.
Thank you and have a great day!
Bye bye
Author's reply
Hello, Dr. Seuss! How are you? I assume you're busy. It happens. Don't worry about it.
I like writing magical Thranduil. Tolkien says that the wood-elves "magic was strong" and we know that the doors of Thranduil's cavern were sealed by magic. I think of his magic as coming from his connection to Arda, to his woods. So I thought enchanting the river would be right up his alley.
And I will confess that I am very fond of Eilian myself. :-)
esamen
· 5 December 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
His father and Mithrandir stood conferring in voices low enough that he could not quite catch what they were saying, but something about the atmosphere tingled with anticipation, as if everything around him waited for something to change.
I really like these glimpses of the king's connection to his realm. I love that mysterious, organic, unknowable power. Nicely done . . .
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“Who is this?” Elrohir asked, and Eilian remembered the twins’ presence. “Surely this must be the boy the Esgaroth soldiers were so worried about. Good evening, child. I am Elrohir, and this is my brother, Elladan.”
Now THIS is the voice of the twins. Graceful, compassionate, perfectly understanding the company they are with. Old, yet ageless. Inspiring respect. Beautiful!
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“Thranduil may find that fostering a Mannish boy is a demanding task,” Elrohir observed with a small smile.
What a graceful nod towards Aragorn, even though he isn't born yet (I don't think so, anyway . . . I haven't checked my Appendix lately). Nice comment from the Elves' point of view. This sentence adds a whole new layer of depth to the story. Gorgeous. If I had to sum up this story in one word, that would be it: Gorgeous. Every scene!
Thanks for writing! See you next time!
Author's reply
Thranduil's magic is a little tricky to write, but I agree with you about its nature. And the trees got all excited when they knew what was going to happen.
The twins are there underneath. All those years of being Elrond's sons aren't gone. They're just lost for a little while. And I thought they would be used to mannish children -- all those heirs of Isildur fostered in Imladris for years on end. Aragorn won't be born for several hundred years yet.
Thank you, Esamen. You're making me feel good.
esamen
· 5 December 2004
· Chapter 9: Revelations
Hello! I'm working my way through the last two chapters. Here's a few moments I really enjoyed:
A story lay here, Ithilden thought and wondered what chance he had of getting it out of Eilian. Asking Maltanaur would be pointless. He never talked about what he saw while guarding Eilian.
I always like bits about the keepers.
Cudry took an involuntary step backwards only to find himself up against the substantial chest of Ithilden.
Chuckle. Oh, sweet. Lovely scene. Don't even think about getting out of this one, Cudry! Go Thranduil1
Author's reply
Now that I look at that line, I wonder if Eilian would tell Ithilden about what happened, and if Ithilden would tolerate not being told. I'll be Eilian is good at wiggling out of what he doesn't want to tell. And I do love Maltanaur, right down to his discretion about his sometimes wayward charge.
Thranduil and Ithilden double teaming Cudry. Yeah!
Jay of Lasgalen
· 3 December 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
While I'm always sorry to see a story end, the conclusion is always satisfying. I liked this in so many ways. Thranduil had so many different roles - caring father, protective adult, mysterious Elvenking (I love it when he performs magic!) and powerful ruler. I liked the subtle hint to Rodda's guardian.
The boy's plight has also penetrated the twins' self-absorption in their grief, and like Elrohir and Eilian, I was surprised to hear Elladan's words. They need to go home; to be with Elrond, Arwen and the rest of Imladris.
Finally, Ithilden was right in what he said to Alfirin (and he didn't make a fool of himself!) - Legolas did shine. The three brothers walking together was lovely.
Jay
Author's reply
I hate having a story end! I don't know why I rush toward it so!
Anyway, I'm glad you liked this, Jay. Thranduil really came through. I particularly liked writing about him with Rodda, who didn't know he was the king and just saw him as Legolas's ada.
The twins do need to go home. They're so strong and noble underneath all that grief and rage. And they could see Rodda's need, so there's hope there, I think.
I think Alfirin must have looked at Ithilden, who was looking at Legolas with love and pride, and known right then that the sometimes stiff troop commander was the right one for her. :-)
Firnsarnien
· 30 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
Ok, *sniff, sniff* I really wanted to comment more on this chappy, but what is forefront in my mind is Leggy's arrows! *sob* That was beautiful man, just beautiful! Leggy is so selfless and giving. *sniffle* I'm so glad his father didn't make mention of Leggy's gift to Rodda and I'm so glad Ithilden and Eilian went with Leggy to archery class to show their support of Leggy. His arrows would have beautiful for the class to see, but somehow, they looked even more beautiful in their quiver with Rodda! *sob* Beautiful...
Ok, now that I've gotten that off my chest, I can't tell ya how please I was that Thranduil kept a calm head and didn't chew Leggy out. I'm glad things turned out all right for Rodda too. See, everything turns our right in the end, I don't know why I ever doubted you or worried. Hmmm, let's see, maybe I did cause of what happens to Turgon later on, right? ;( Ok, *sniff* I'm not going to dwell on that or I'll start crying again. *sniff*
What a wonderful story! Loved it, every minute of it! So sad it's over though. Guess it's time for another, no? How 'bout one with the plot I've been dying for? No? Yes? Hmmmmm? *grovel, grovel* How 'bout giving this angst hound a fix, hmmmm? ;) LOL Well, whatever you write, I'm sure I'll be more than pleased! Just hurry though, k? ;)
Author's reply
So you liked Legolas giving away the arrows? He is a sweetie, I have to admit. It seemed to me that once he had given them, he wouldn't take them back, even though he no longer feared that Rodda was going to try to cross the forest alone. His family is proud of him, I think.
I still feel bad about Turgon. I wrote that story where he dies very early on. If I'd written more about him before I did it, I don't think I could have killed him.
I don't know what I'll write about next. I'm just taking a little break here.
Firnsarnien
· 30 November 2004
· Chapter 9: Revelations
"Legolas realized with a start that Rodda must be walking a dream path." This line right here really caught my eye! You stayed so true to the way Elves talk with this one. True, nightmare does seem out of place when you utter it in a story, but it is so hard to come up with a better word. This line did it beautifully! Bravo! :)
Holy moly! When Rodda was confessing to Legolas what had happened, I stopped worrying about Leggy getting in too much trouble. Surely they'd see that his heart was in the right place and he wasn't being intentionally deceptive. And that chance meeting with Mithrandir was just what he needed. Leave it to the old wizard to be just at the right place at the right time. :)
Thranduil's handling of that horrid crook was great. Only he could be so menacing that he would get a confession out of the man just by looks alone. Whew, impressive I tell ya, no wonder he's king! LOL
And this last part. Oh my holy jacamole! I thought Thranduil had boo booed big time and Legolas was going to lose his nerve and NOT tell him what was going on. I was even holding my breath. Thank the Valar Leggy tells him, at least I think he does. I'm off to read the next chappy. Catch ya there! :)
Author's reply
See, you judge Legolas's actions more or less as Thranduil does! You see how awful things have been for poor Rodda and how good Legolas's heart is. I tried to think how I would feel if my 12-year-old son told me he had been hiding a runaway who might be hanged and I have to say it was a scary thought.
And speaking of scary, Thranduil does that so well. If I were Cudry, I'd be whimpering in a corner somewhere.
Thank goodness Thranduil saw the Legolas needed him and made the change from scary king to tender father.
emjo
· 30 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
Great story Daw! I loved sweet little Legolas and what a good ada Thraduil is! Hurry with your next story!
Author's reply
Thranduil and Legolas both shone in this chapter, I think. I love them both too.
"Hurry with your next story!" -- LOL. I'm watching my EE of TTT and then I'm going to go watch TV. A new story will be along eventually. I'm just taking a few days off.
Bodkin
· 29 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
PS: “Had his older sons ever been as willing to fight their friends’ battles as this one was?”
The explanation for why Legolas, who can be so sensible at times, always, but ALWAYS follows Turgon into the most stupid of his adventures! He is Being There For Him and supporting one who has so little support from his family.
(Do you know, I think I would be a lot more prepared to forgive Legolas for handing his nice new clothes over to Rodda, since he was also willing to hand over his arrows - despite his pride in them and the knowledge that he might be in trouble for not having them. Clothes don't matter much to kids of Legolas's age, but he is also prepared to make a personal sacrifice.)
Author's reply
Yes, indeed. Turgon is sort of a prototype Aragorn. :-)
I thought that about the clothes too. Legolas thinks of them as just extra stuff lying around, but his arrows! Those were precious.
Nilmandra
· 29 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
I think my favorite part of this was the ending, when Legolas's brothers stood by him. Talk about feeling better about all that happened - having big powerful people who love you standing at your side has to inspire confidence!
Rodda has come to a good end, his youthful fears lessened, and I really enjoyed seeing a more thorough portrayal of Thranduil and his emotions and interactions with his children. And the twins, well I'm going to come and bring them home now. :)
Author's reply
Legolas may have lost his mother, but he's lucky to have this family that loves him and treasures him. All children should be so fortunate.
Thank you for loaning me the sons of Elrond. I know you'll want to fluff and buff them and remove any stains I've left on their characters. :-)
elliska
· 29 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
I finally got my wonderful relatives out of my house from the holiday and I am having so much fun catching up with my reading. I was sorry to see "Complete" on this story but it was an outstanding ending. Thranduil's reaction to Legolas' story was perfect. I thought earlier how Thranduil was going to lose it when he finally heard his son had hidden a Mannish child that admitted he would be hung if caught--the danger and political ramifications in that would just kill poor Thranduil. But he handled it right. Plenty of time to deal with Legolas, he has to deal with the kid first. And what a wonderful reaction. Thranduil may be a formidable king but he is such a good ada, no matter whose kids are involved. I just loved the picture of him comforting Rodda and assuring him that he had done nothing wrong. I can so see that and I thought it was just perfect.
From that whole sequence, I love this line--"Had his older sons ever been as willing to fight their friends’ battles as this one was?" Isn't that the truth. Or all of Arda's battles, as time will tell.
And poor Rodda when he realized who Thranduil was. That was priceless. The kid handled that revelation better than I would have. Good for him.
And the scene in Legolas' room. Again, priceless, from the bath to Thranduil's realization that he was now clothing the children of Esgaroth. Poor Thranduil, Legolas must really tax his patience sometimes.
Of course, the scene in the garden was wonderful. I am glad to see that the twins are seeing something of what Eilian told them. And I'm glad Rodda got to see how relieved Alen was to discover he was still alive and how willing he was to make sure he had a good home. But it was a great touch to show Thranduil making it clear to all that he would see to the protection of the child. I wonder what they thought when they saw Legolas' last gift, the arrows.
But now to my favorite part--Magic!Thranduil. Loved it! Loved it! That was so great. Ithilden's reaction was great. I loved the whole last paragraph of that sequence.
Again sorry to see one end. Surely you must know what I'm going to end up saying 'cause I pester you like this everytime you end one--give us a hint what you'll do next. I can always hardly stand the wait.
Author's reply
Ada!Thranduil just came through, didn't he? I gues that was his day to really shine! He left the king behind and was just the slightly uncertain parent trying to coax a scared child into trusting him. For me, it was like seeing a very private side of Thranduil that I loved writing about.
I hadn't thought in terms of Thranduil clothing the children of Esgaroth, but you're right! LOL. No wonder he gets exasperated sometimes.
The twins came through too, though. When the chips were down, they could ignore their own problems long enough to use their greater knowledge of men and help this child whose pain must have looked familiar to them.
I'm glad you liked the magic. Are you going to do an Enchanted River scene? I'd like to see it. It makes sense that it's Thranduil's doing, doesn't it?
I don't know what I'm going to write next. I looked at my list of possible stories a little while ago: little lost elfling (an idea that cropped up in the story about the mice)? The time after the Battle of Five Armies? Some other things I have down with Ithilden, etc.? I don't know. There are always more stories. :-)
Dot
· 29 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
I’m so proud of everyone!! Especially Thranduil and Legolas. Legolas has a heart of gold, even if not always the best judgement and Thranduil… see, I knew that despite any inclination to keep his distance from men, he’d try to help the boy. Children always change things and Thranduil is too much of a father not to care. Oh, and I love Magic!Thranduil too!
Thranduil must have been just horrified when Legolas told him his tale. He’s right, of course, that Rodda could easily have hurt any of them. Not to mention the fact that keeping the child there could cause no end of problems with Esgaroth. But I was so glad that he realised how much Rodda and his story had affected Legolas. I thought it was so touching that Thranduil tried to live up to Legolas’ faith in him and to reassure his son while actually feeling rather helpless in the face of such a strange tale.
“Had his older sons ever been as willing to fight their friends’ battles as this one was?” Oh, there’s a good question! I have no doubt that they’re all very loyal but it seems a distinctly Legolas trait to be so selfless in helping others that he risks getting into trouble himself or having people he respects, like his father and the archery master, think less of him. I love that even in this young elf trying to do the right thing we can see some of Legolas of the Fellowship.
I was so surprised when Thranduil decided to go to the cottage! Legolas’ wasn’t the only face that lit up. What a pitiful image of the boy crouching in the corner, petrified at the sight of Thranduil. I loved the moment when Thranduil realises that this is just a child who needs to be helped, not a representative of his race who needs to be judged by the actions of all other Men. It was incredible to witness how gentle he became with Rodda. I mean, I’ve seen him be tender with his sons but never, I think, with someone outside the family. Rodda seems to recognise a loving father and responded to him. He’s always been great at getting to the root of any problems with his sons and I think he did the same here by reassuring Rodda that he did the right thing with the Orcs. And I genuinely had tears in my eyes at the sight of Thranduil cradling the child to him. I always enjoy seeing Thranduil all riled up but it’s just wonderful to see this side of him as well.
“I live here, and my adar is the king. He already judged you, I think.” Oh! I love that line! Very wise. I had to laugh, though, when Thrandul “gravely inclined his head”, having a regal moment in the midst of all this. But I liked that he obviously realised that Rodda was truly trying to show some respect and chose to accept it for what it was. Still, he has to get a kick out of the reputation he seems to have!
I didn’t realise that it was his new clothes that Legolas gave away. I hate to admit it, but it would have been my old, short cloak Rodda would have been given… I like that Legolas stayed with Rodda while he bathed. They seem to have become quite attached.
I thought the little scene between Thranduil and Ithilden was fascinating. Ithilden is right, I think, to try to be more open than his father and strive for good relations with his neighbours, forming allies where he can and he clearly doesn’t want any harm to come to Rodda, but at the end of the day it’s Thranduil who reacts almost as Legolas does to the boy, with sympathy and a desire to do what he can to help. Though Thranduil can obviously do a lot more than Legolas! Sometimes politics need to be set aside for a while. Thranduil’s internal struggle really moved me. It can’t be easy to let go of old prejudices and grievances. And he probably never fully will, but while it’s easy for him to scare Men who threaten his people, it’s quite another thing to be faced with a child who is frightened and has been touched by tragedy in so similar a way to his own sons and the sons of Elrond. That thing that both he and Ithilden do where they run their hands over their hair when they’re anxious or stressed – do you do that by any chance??!
“I have something else in mind to help defend us from that direction.” I looked at that in puzzlement for a second before realising what he might mean and then I got so excited that I had to stop myself from scrolling down to see! I can’t even begin to tell you how much I loved the part with the enchantment. It was all so…well, magical. The idea that he seems almost casual as he does it, as I recall he was in ‘Tangled Web’ as well, just seems so completely Thranduil to me! You described it all so wonderfully. I loved everything about it – the suggestion that he drew strength from the stars, the way the forest responded to him, almost reaching out to him, a sense of life and ancient power stirring in the earth… Who needs a Ring of Power, eh? I think too that seeing it through Ithilden’s eyes made me feel some of his amazement and awe. Of course, I know Mithrandir helped out but I’m afraid that I’m too dazzled by the Elvenking at the moment! I imagine Thranduil knows exactly what Ithilden is thinking too and is feeling rather satisfied with himself!
Poor Legolas. He must have been worn out after the last few days. I thought it was a lovely image of him asleep on the rug in front of the fire. Adar has obviously put his mind at rest.
“I would be in serious trouble if I lost you.” Somehow I don’t think Eilian would have any difficulty finding him again – but I suppose he had to warn him! I thought Eilian’s less than enthusiastic reaction to the sight of the twins was very amusing. And for all their interest in Rodda and Alen’s obvious relief, I get the impression that Eilian would fight them if they were anything but gentle with the child. Hmm. Maybe Legolas isn’t so different from the rest of his family.
Elrohir is very good with Rodda. Obviously he has a lot more to do with Men than Eilian does and seems to respect their customs but this child’s tale in particular seems to have brought him out of himself. Maybe, like Thranduil, they find childish grief in a way easier to deal with than adult grief.
“Thranduil may find that fostering a Mannish boy is a demanding task.” Well! Anything Elrond can do…
And Elladan! Yes! I’ll have to take back all the negative things I was thinking about him… It seems everyone is showing their caring side in this chapter. I’m so, so glad that he’s beginning to find his way out of his anger and misery. I guess Eilian’s words did get through to some extent but it was only in seeing this child and the choice he’ll have to make between allowing his grief to take over so much that he turns his back on his friends and neighbours or going home and opening himself up to any pain with the knowledge that there will also be comfort that really helped Elladan take a step back from his own situation. I must say, though, that I thought you did the right thing in only having this be the very beginning of some sense of healing, that this isn’t some dramatic change but tentative steps on a long road to finding peace.
They were all so shocked to see the quiver full of Legolas’ arrows! For a second I thought Thranduil might say something but he must realise the sacrifice his son made. I was really happy that Rodda went back to Esgaroth. It’s probably the best thing for him and even though he would have given the twins, and perhaps Elrond, something to focus on, I think this is a better ending.
I just loved the supportive big brothers. Their arrival would certainly signify to Penntalion that something was up with Legolas and I think Legolas really appreciated their presence – and their praise for his archery skills!! I felt sorry for Turgon. It was so nice of Legolas to go and be by his side. I suppose, though, that Penntalion would know what’s involved in making arrows and would have some clue why Turgon didn’t have any. Lovely image too of Alfirin and Ithilden together! No doubt Tonduil won’t be the only one of the class who will wonder why Legolas has no arrows but even though it’s hard for him, I doubt Legolas would regret parting with them. He really does deserve the pride his family have in him.
And so another one ends… I really enjoyed this tale – lots of surprises with angst and humour in just the right amounts! I think all of Thranduil’s family learned a little of themselves in their dealings with others and I loved being there learning right along with them! :-)
Author's reply
I really did see Thranduil in fatherly mode with both Legolas and Rodda, and it kind of startled me. I loved Angry!Thranduil and the merchant, but then along came this guy who doesn't quite know how to handle these kids, but follows his son around behind Turgon's cottage and then crouches down next to the bed and coaxes the most frightened one out of a corner. And Rodda has no idea who he is except that he's Legolas's father. Somehow that felt like looking at a very private side of Thranduil.
That paragraph in which Thranduil wonders about the nature of men is really the central theme of this whole story. Ithilden would never let a child come to harm either, but he hasn't seen Rodda and he's worried. I don't think I run my hand through my hair when I'm stressed! I get a little tic under my eye though. My graduate students point it out to me when it happens (and they are too often the cause of it!).
Like you, the trees got all excited when Thranduil enchanted the river! And somehow, the fact that he's casual makes it seem all the more powerful. He connects to Arda and, as the king of the woodland realm, he draws on its power. One of the things I think about Ithilden is that he is the heir to that magic. That's really why he was there.
I thought the twins might see themselves in Rodda and it might help them. They need to see someone else's suffering and they do react to a child. I think it's natural for elves to love children, which is why the few who do dreadful things to them(I'm talking about you, sons of Feanor) are so appalling. I did debate sending Rodda home with the twins, but it just seemed more realistic for him to go the familiar place.
I've been feeling bad for Turgon so I was glad Legolas could comfort him. And I figured Penntalion has seen it all. He'd be prepared for the kid with no arrows. Any kid who showed up without them is going to feel bad enough already. There's no need to make an issue of it.
I'm glad you liked this story, Dot. It was tricky because I hadn't written the twins much before and I had a lot of plot lines going, but I was pleased in the end.
Brazgirl
· 29 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
Hi. This was such a wonderful chapter! The best end you could give to your fic. Thranduil was wonderful! And I loved when Ithilden thought he was getting wiser than his father... which he was not!!! Hahahah now I understand why you call him cocky. But I like him, though I prefer Eilian.
Rodda had a nice end, I think. He got surprised to stand before the Elven King... poor soul. I guess even Legolas is better... the twins! I love what you did to them, what they said... I need some food now. I love your fics, Daw! You are the best!
Author's reply
You're funny, Brazgirl! I'm going to tell Ithilden you were laughing at him. You'd better watch out!
The twins were intriguing to write about. I was really feeling my way along with them, but eventually they seemed to shape up as slightly mysterious and suffering, but basically noble people. Of course, what else would you expect from the sons of Elrond?
Thank you for you kind words, Brazgirl. You're making me blush.
Alice
· 29 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
Oh, that was just so sweet! Legolas is such a good person. I'm just so proud of him. Excuse me while I take a few moments to collect myself from my ravings about how sweet Legolas is. I've been rereading FOTR by the way and I thought the comment Thranduil made about Legolas being willing to fight his friends' battles particuarly apt. I also really liked the comment about taking in a stray boy being such a Legolas thing to do. This chapter really explored Legolas's character well. That's the nice thing about your stories: they show how Legolas developed into who he is in the LOTR. He is just so awesome! Okay, I'm done rhapsodizing now.
Thranduil is awesome in this chapter. That's the Elvish King I love! I was waiting for Rodda to realize who Thranduil was. That scene where he realizes that he's being led to the Palace is so funny! Legolas really doesn't think a whole lot about the fact that he is the King's son, he just is. I think that's very telling of Elvish society, or at least Sindarin society, that rank really isn't that important. Of course, considering how the Mirkwood dynasty was established, it's not surprising. Anyway, Thranduil is cool. He definitely went into Ada mode with Rodda. I think he did have kittens also. I would too. Just wait until Legolas brings home a dwarf! LOL. I'm having fun picturing his family's reaction. Alfirin will attempt to feed Gimli, Thranduil will have kittens (meaning he will freak out " You brought home a what?!", wring his hands, and just give Legolas this look saying," I don't know what goes on in your head but it worries me deeply"), Ithilden and Sinnarn will be fascinated, Eilian will be taken aback and write it off as a Legolas thing to do, and Celuwen will defend Legolas and use her immunity from Thranduil's wrath. Of course, I think everyone will just be relieved to see Legolas, which will probably result in them being gentler than they would normally. I'm having a lot of fun picturing his family's reactions.
I loved how Ithilden and Eilian decided to walk with Legolas to the field. They need to team up more often. They're very proud of their baby brother. And Ithilden managed to hold a conversation with Alfirin without his brain turning to mush! Go Ithilden!
I liked how you offered up an explanation for the river enchantment. I had forgotten that it was there and Tolkien never explains how it happened. Also nice wrap-up with E2. They needed someone little to remind them of others' needs just like Eilian did. And it's good they're no longer being stupid.
I greatly look forward to your next story. I just love your original characters and your characterization of Legolas. Write fast!
Author's reply
Oh Alice, you know just what to say! All of these stories are supposed to lay the groundwork for Legolas of the Fellowship. To me, that's what gives interest to pre-quest stories. We know the future and the characters don't, but we can see them approaching it and getting ready for it.
I don't see elves as all that impressed by rank either, especially wood-elves. Thranduil is of service to his people and his sons are raised to think of their position in those terms too. And Legolas is young enough that he just takes his father's role for granted. As you say, it just is.
Your picture of what happens when Legolas brings Gimli home is priceless! And so accurate! I know that "having kittens" isn't particularly a ME phrase, but it struck me as a good, irreverant Eilian phrase!
I'm thinking about how proud Ithilden and Eilian are of Legolas, and wondering if maybe that surprises them a little. Maybe they think of him as a baby still, and he does this very hard thing. I'd be tickled pink if he were mine. (Wait! He is!)
The twins reacted to Rodda, whose loss is enough like their own to make them pause. They needed that!
perelleth
· 29 November 2004
· Chapter 10: True Colors
Well… Mithrandir may just have popped in but now we know he is always useful! ;-)
Oh my, that part when enchanting the Forest River.. it was sheer beauty…it really moved me, it reminded me of the words of the Lorien elves when the hobbits ask if the cloaks are “magical”.. “… the magic of the rocks, the trees the waters, the things that we love..” they answer something like that..I think that’s how Tolkien saw the firstborn: deeply tied to Arda, with better understanding of its song and its needs than the secondborn.. and thus able to use its powers… so I understand this is more or less what Thranduil does here...It is so powerful and moving.. yep, a sheer force of nature our king, I insist on that….(Breathes in deeply, still carried away by that image)
And having Ithilden witness it is a smart trick from both of you! (Thranduil and you..) He is lovable, this sensible, too serious and responsible crown prince trying to learn his role.. he seems to be doing well, and I can only guess this has been a very powerful experience for him too!!
You see, I think that what’s got me with this story (apart from being wonderfully written) is the depth of care devoted to make the different conflicts apparent, and how the love and respect the characters have for each other rule their interactions and their conflicts. Everything has different shades of good and bad, and there’s no clear “winner”: Thranduil is right in his being wary of men and his sons are right too in being carefully optimistic and open to them, the twins are burdened by their grief but still they are ancient wise half elves, capable of compasion and sensible behaviour, and there’s good and bad to be found among Men.
I feel your Thranduil and his wife were able to craft a very sensible, caring and responsible family...(look at those big brothers proudly hovering around their littlest!) and realm, much different from the Noldor point of view we are used to but still amazingly beautiful. I am delighted by your cast!
May the muses never leave you nor you ever tire of them! You’ve managed to get yourself another eager reader!
Author's reply
I'm glad you liked the magic. I tend to be a pretty prosaic person, so I was intimidated by writing it, but in a way, I think the simplicity of it is better. I like that quote you give from the Lorien elves. I had forgotten that, but it seems apt.
Ithilden has been the OC I've had the hardest time pinning down. It's taken me a long time to see him well. It helped when I wrote a story with no Eilian, just Ithilden and Legolas together mostly. That gave me a better perspective on him.
I'm sitting here rereading (again and again) the comments you make on my characters and their mixed motives and successes and failures. And I'm smiling. :-)
I'll take a week or so off and then I'll drag out my list of possible stories and see what I want to do next. I get bored when I'm not writing. So I expect I'll be back.