Lesser Ring by Larner

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Baggins Babe · 6 September 2005 · Chapter 34: Questions of Succession

What an interesting idea - that the accession of the Farozi was full of awful rites and tributes to Sauron and that new rituals must now be found. What a terrible thing, to have to sacrifice a life, and hos clever of the Farozi to choose someone who had deserved death. I don't suppose it mattered to Sauron. Do I sense that the fanatical young man may prove a problem in a future chapter? He seems to be having great difficulty absorbing all the information, and fancy thinking that Aragorn would have killed Frodo! No wonder Pippin is baffled.

Author's reply

The full nature of this young man will be further revealed, and his muddy thinking uncovered. Sauron might not have cared who ended up on his altars; but I suspect that it made a great deal of difference to An'Sohrabi as he did his best not to allow himself to be corrupted by what he was forced to do. Sauron would have seen to it that those rising to such office as that of the Farozi would have felt drawn to him, would have felt themselves tainted and dirtied and thus tied to the one who claimed mastery over them and their land. That some would seek to privately distance themselves from him would probably have escaped him, as long as the physical forms were followed.

lindahoyland · 5 September 2005 · Chapter 34: Questions of Succession

I liked Pippin in this chapter,with his simple yet profound questions.Some of the Harad must find it hard to adjust to life afer Sauron, a bit like when the iron cuttain fell !

Author's reply

Yes, I can agree to those who found themselves floundering when the Iron Curtain fell. To go from such a controlled environment to having to be responsible for oneself must have been quite the shock. And I'm so glad you appreciate Pippin's questions. Someone needs to see them asked, and Pippin would be the logical one to see the lack of plain Hobbit sense, I think. So glad you responded. Love how your story is going, btw.

Kitty · 4 September 2005 · Chapter 33: The Council of Amon

Ruvemir's tale about the guild master was interesting - and I think, educating as well, for everyone there! And I am glad the priest and the Farozi and his family were there to hear it. They will learn something from this, of this I am sure after knowing a bit of what they have already done for their people. As you probably can imagine, this is a theme I feel involved, as I had some similar experiences! I loved the doves flying around Aragorn and Arwen! And it was a good idea to have told the tale of Morgoth, Sauron and the quest in front of all these people, even if it probably wasn't always easy for Legolas and Pippin. But it is important the people in Harad do know what happened. I'm sure they will benefit from the knowledge in the future, even if there is no new Sauron.

Author's reply

As a special ed teacher, trying to educate the public has been an ongoing part of my job--teaching parents to accept their children, teaching people to develop realistic, positive expectations, teaching the public to accept my students, clients, friends, and colleagues in the community. Evil is, has been, and will continue to be. For the first time the probably more educated general public in Harad is learning just who and what Sauron was, and that he wasn't even on the par of the Valar themselves. This is a big shock to many of them, I'm certain. The story is reaching wider and wider audiences now, and it will have an impact. But so many still aren't willing to listen, even in this day and time! We keep trying to convince ourselves that we have the proper, final answer, and then trying to force that answer on everybody else.

harrowcat · 4 September 2005 · Chapter 33: The Council of Amon

Well I'm back again Larner! (and back at work too) and finally caught up with your great story. I love the way that you have so many people telling the story of the downfall of Sauron in their own words. But poor Pippin! I hope that Aragorn has his athelas handy again. As usual I love the omens! (P.s. my Dad has been and chosen a new pup - a big ball of black fluff who is going to be called 'Drake'. We collect him athe end of September!)

Author's reply

Don't know if Pippin will need it, but he's getting a bit flummoxed now, I think. Glad to see you back! And hug the ball of black fluff when it comes to stay! Drake, eh? Will you give him a drum and a fleet? (Sorry--from now on Drake will ever bring to mind Katherine Kurtz's _Lammas Night_ book in which she references Drake and his drum.)

grumpy · 3 September 2005 · Chapter 32: Desert Ride

Glad they got Benai to put down his sword and relax a little. Liked the picking out of horses and ponies, so Aragorn's long ago horse has has sired his current mount. Eomer is happy to be back on horseback, as is his son.

Author's reply

What goes around comes around, and I suppose that is as true for horses as for anything else. As Aragorn was supposed to be quite extraordinarily tall, he'd need a horse that would fit his frame; obviously Perdui-bred horses fill the bill! Glad you appreciate the horses and seeing Benai finally start unbending a bit. Thanks for the feedback.

lindahoyland · 3 September 2005 · Chapter 33: The Council of Amon

I loved the image of the doves circling round Aragorn and Arwen

Author's reply

If three circles is the sign of recognition for hidden royalty, how many circles would they make about the last Queen of the Elven peoples left in Middle Earth? Thanks so for the response.

Baggins Babe · 3 September 2005 · Chapter 32: Desert Ride

Another wonderful and thought-provoking chapter, Larner. Glad Pippin is thinking about the lives of any disabled children born in the Shire, and he will certainly take an interest, being the future Thain. I'm sure Merry and Sam would feel equally concerned once the thought was in their minds. I love your portrayal of Eomer and Elfwine. The little lad is certainly a future horse-lord! A great image of Eomer and Aragorn sparring too, and I loved the descriptions of the different horses and how their riders chose them. Looking forward to more.

Author's reply

It always struck me that for the Horse Lords, those who appeared to know not horses would be seen as beneath notice, and so small Elfwine's comment grew. And, being Eomer's son, of course he'd have probably been riding since before he could even walk. Gotta be! And as I've repeated, I've had this dream of two on horses, obviously Eomer and Aragorn, sparring in the sand of a desert--this image was bound and determined to make its way into the story. And the rights of the disabled is something that will keep making its way into what I write--an occupational hazard, I fear.

lindahoyland · 2 September 2005 · Chapter 32: Desert Ride

A most enjoyable chapter,though I'd hoped for more adventures at the temple.It worries me to see them all travelling together as who would rule Gondor,Arnor and Rohan if the boat were to sink for example ? The swimming scene was most enjoyable and I liked the discussion about the disabled being kept out of sight even in civilised Gondor. Thank you so much for your kind review,you obviously understand poor FAramir's suffering well.

Author's reply

Ah, Lindahoyland, you have indeed absorbed the natural concern for the lines of succession that is native to your people. If the barge sank, I suspect that Aragorn, Arwen, Legolas, and Pippin would do well at making certain the others were safe. Now, if they all assaulted in the desert---- Thanks for your feedback and keeping me on my toes.

Radbooks · 2 September 2005 · Chapter 32: Desert Ride

I loved little Elfwine and the pony, truly a Rohirrim boy! And I've enjoyed how you have written Eomer, you write him well. I enjoyed the sparring in the desert between Eomer and Aragorn on horseback - the people of Rohan truly did miss their horses! Very interesting discussion at the beginning about how different cultures treat the wounded, or those afflicted with disease, or just born with various things that society brands as handicapped in some way. I especially thought it was meaningful for Pippin since he will be the Thain and he needs to look into that in the Shire and see what is happening there. Of course it is important in Gondor too, but Aragorn at least had a level of awareness - though I know there is always more that needs to be done. As Ruvemir told him, whole communities need to be educated. Heck it needs to happen here and now - let alone back then! :) It was a good discussion and it was good for Pippin and Isumbard to see that kind of thing. Nicely done.

Author's reply

Ruvemir's bitterness is seen in the blindness community, and even among the most capable and integrated of visually impaired folk. The number who face unrealistic expectations, whether they are too high or too low or just not appropriate to the individual involved, is staggering. (Is the special ed teacher coming out in me? It certainly ought to be!) The comment he makes about prejudice openly expressed being more welcome than that hidden behind glib words and locked doors I've heard stated with equal anger by those with disabilities and those who are black. It's a damning statement of the reality of life. Am so glad that at last small Elfwine is coming into his own, for the three small boys have just stayed in Avrieth's shadow, mostly. About time he starts letting these strangers know he's the future Lord of Rohan, I think! Glad you enjoy how I present Eomer and the Rohirrim. So far they've let Aragorn the King and Faramir the diplomat do most of the speaking for the group, for what do they know of living in stone cities or along great rivers? And I've dreamed that encounter several times before I wrote the chapter. I think Eomer was demanding his due.

Kitty · 2 September 2005 · Chapter 32: Desert Ride

Thain Peregrin will find a way to properly educate hobbit mannikins and other hobbits with disabilities, no doubt! And I’m sure the Master and the Mayor are of the same mind. I loved the display of affection between Amonrabi and Sohrabi. The open affection Aragorn shows to Pippin and the others rubs off, no doubt, and it is good to see it. Hmmm ... one could think Rustovrid’s daughter is about to get interested in Benai ... that could be a fascinating match. No doubt, little Elfwine is the future King of the Mark! I was amused how Éomer took him to the horses immediately after his birth. Would my own pony were so cooperative as this pony to him- Skerpa can be quite stubborn at times! It was nice how the Northerners choose their horses, and I loved the sparring between the two Kings. They can’t refuse a little challenge, can’t they? Another part I enjoyed was how Mablung urged Benai in the water. According to his origin, he surely enjoys swimming very much, and I’m glad Mablung noticed his longing and reminded him he isn’t the only one guard there and can have time off to have some fun! Now I am curious how the priests are going to interpret the doves! And I wonder if the cooks of Sohrabi have to learn to prepare ducks Shire-style ;-) You’ve over three tousand books? I would feel very at home there! :) Last time I counted my books I had over six hundred, but that was twenty years ago. At the moment my books are divided between my own flat and my mother’s flat, but I’m going to purchase a new shelf for my study, over the whole wall at one side of the room, and then I can take all the many books with me that are still at my mother’s flat. I think I need to count them then – I’m quite curious how many it are now!

Author's reply

Books first--I've been collecting books from my youngest years, and that makes well over fifty years' worth. A few years ago I started a library database for them, and have most but not quite all in it--don't have the most of my little-kids' books I braille for my students. I've had to buy homes to fit the bookcases, don't you know! Heh! I've admitted much of my own writing is influenced by that of others, and one person wrote a very lovely one-shot of Eomer taking the newborn Elfwine out to be introduced to the Mearas, so I've referenced that here in this chapter. It's such a lovely image! But I suspect that the horses and ponies even of the Haradrim would respond to the mastery of the Horse Lords! My special ed background is making itself felt again in the discussion regarding the beggars at the temple, and both the Shire and Gondor will be making even more concerted an effort to give equal chances to all. (And be forewarned the discussion will rise again, for it's not over yet, in Middle Earth or here in our world, either.) I'd thought to pair up Benai with Gilmorien's sister, but somehow it appears Rustovrid's oldest daughter, who is really too old to be considered a child, seems to be eyeing him first. I had to get him also to relax a little, also. And the openly displayed affection of the Northerners has to work positively at allowing the Haradrim to follow suit in the presence of others. And the image of Aragorn and Eomer sparring on horseback has been filling my dreams for nights--it was demanding to be expressed. For Eomer to be out of the city back on a horse again must have felt like freedom, and I'd think he'd feel a bit giddy and want some physical release. He's there, and Aragorn's there, and they're carrying their swords and all.... Am not certain how the priests would interpret the flight of the released doves; but you will see part of that in the next chapter, sans priests, I fear, for now at least. As for the duck, I suspect Ankhrabi will want that recipe, at least! Heh! Thanks for the feedback!

Tigger · 1 September 2005 · Chapter 31: The Temple of Neryet

What a lovely sweet chapter. Loved what the High Priestess told Arwen and the joy it brought to the Queen. Also found Aragorn's telling of his various relationships, especially between him, Denethor and Ecthelion, very interesting and intriguing too. Gives another insight into his character. Where did the scene of the giving of flowers as tribute to Lady Varda/Neryet come from? Is it another piece of Egyptian history that you've adapted? Regardless, I thought it was a wonderful way to thank the Goddess for the precious gift of a new life. As always, looking forward to the next chapter. :o)

Author's reply

Actually, the offerings of flowers came both from Christian customs as practiced in my church at least (we often offer altar flowers in memory of those lost or in thanksgiving for a blessing received) and in part from Aztec customs. There were certain festivals where the offerings made were not blood sacrifices, but instead the offerings of flowers and butterflies; and I thought that an adapted version of that would probably be the kind of offering one such as Neryet would prefer. That Arwen might have an office to serve to welcome the Vala back to the Presence of the Creator at the End of Days seemed a wonderful one to explore, and that Aragorn would reassure Bhatgebamun's widow as well I thought would be part of the balance of the exchange. Tolkien indicated that Denethor came to realize who Thorongil was, and that part of the reason for Aragorn to choose to leave the service of Gondor was due to the desire not to get into conflict with the man once Ecthelion was dead. Anglachel has written a wonderful story called "The Hands of the King" which looks at the relationships between Aragorn as Thorongil, Adrahil, Imrahil, Finduilas, and Denethor and his sisters (she has given him two, one disfigured from birth who serves as the archivist for the Citadel at the time). I can't completely agree with her view of the politics of the time, but it is a fascinating and extraordinarily well-written tale. I have tried to think of some of how the relationship between the two of them might have developed, and what would have led to Aragorn's perception of rejection by Denethor, and felt that the unwillingness to have himself seen as second-best would very well be part of it, whether it was second-best in swordcraft or in the pursuit of love; that already this was his failing which would lead to his final declaration he would not bow down to this Ranger from the north, last of a ragged house in ROTK. Thanks for the review.

Kitty · 1 September 2005 · Chapter 31: The Temple of Neryet

Pippin was a lot of fun in this chapter, with his question about Nefiramonranis child - curious as always. As was Isumbard with his worry about bringing his pillow *grins* And their discussion about the necessity or joy of swimming and, more so, the misunderstanding with smiling/smial *giggles* The idea of Frodo and Eärendil meeting is interesting. Maybe it could turn in a little story sometimes in the future? I would like this, as well as Elrond meeting his father again. This is not often done, and Elrond deserves it after all his losses and sufferings. Another part that was nice is Aragorn's strong friendships. And the confession of Sohrabi to have missed Horubi'ninarin was touching. Our Ranger left quite a strong impression in Harad! And obviously Bathgebamun's widow reacted equally strong to him and Arwen - that was nice how they assured each other about the life after. Of course you are right about the scrolls of the Egyptians, but for me it is still unimaginable not to know a book. When I was young I went to school and back with my nose in a book, carried home towers of books from the public library, and now I'm a librarian. You see I can't live without book! I'm absolute hopeless.

Author's reply

Oh, I know about books, living as I do in my own private library. I swear, my Mother made me do it! Blame her for the fact I have over three thousand, and my husband and friends who are blind for the fact I have cassette books as well as book books. Heh! And, yes, it's fun to see how Pippin and Isumbard reflect the love of Hobbits for comfort and for relief of curiosity! As for Aragorn and his friendships--even as a Ranger having to stay so hidden, he still has had time in his near century of living to develop many, while Sohrabi has not had that luxury, growing up under the thumb of Mordor itself. Horubi'ninarin would have been the first northerner Sohrabi would have met on his own; and that he was willing to defend a stranger and then offered his skill as a healer to the leader of who ought to be the greatest enemies of his people would have made an impression even without the rest of their time together. It was the first chance he and his family probably had seen that there was another way to rule than through force and fear. Thank you for the suggestion, and for the feedback.

Radbooks · 31 August 2005 · Chapter 31: The Temple of Neryet

Smiling hobbits don't swim! :) Very funny, translations and children sometimes just don't mix very well. Then Pippin wanting to know about the sex of the baby and Aragorn telling him it wasn't any of his business and Pippin telling him what he had told Gandalf about all the things he wanted to know. Ah, hobbits are such wonderful creatures in so many ways - make you laugh and cry within minutes of each other it seems like. I liked the temple and the flower customs. Especially when the high priestess told Arwen that she would eventually be meeting Varda at the end of time to welcome her. That was an interesting though that I hadn't considered before. Oh, I also liked when Aragorn was talking with the Farozi about his friendships with others and how he had thought he might have had a friendship with the minstrel because of their mutual love of songs. He wasn't sure why it hadn't happened except that he thought the man held himself back. I suppose we all do that in relationships at times - keep ourselves distant to protect ourselves or whatever. But Aragorn would really sense that and so would do the same. Maybe the man was intimidated because of who Aragorn was - that's why Aragorn would like Ruvemir so much, he wasn't intimidated by Aragorn being the king. He saw him as a man and not just the king... maybe though it was because of the way he met him. Well, enough rambling on here. :) I enjoyed it very much.

Author's reply

Yes, I think the manner in which Ruvemir met Aragorn would indeed make him less likely to hold back in developing his relationship. He meets someone he's not met before, has no idea who or what the guy is, but gets just enough hints to intrigue him and willing to ferret out the rest, until the revelation hits and he already has the relationship going. Even then, I think the King tended to hold back just a bit for a time, not wanting to rush into a friendship that might turn into something else once it came out he was King. And, yes, Hobbits are like that, aren't they? Funny and emotive and evocative of great compassion as well as possessing such themselves. Thanks so much for your response. Don't have time to write more now, I fear,

lindahoyland · 31 August 2005 · Chapter 31: The Temple of Neryet

A lovely chapter.I liked the discussion on Aragorn's friendships ,as I have always felt too that he gives his heart to his friends in a unique way. I also enjoyed the arrival at the temple.

Author's reply

Yes, I, too, felt Aragorn's friendships would all be important indications of his own nature, and would be very deep and fulfilling. And I'm so glad you appreciate the tale of the visit to the temple. I found that somehow the widow of Ankhrabi's brother might need some of the King's healing, and that Arwen might need to bring something back from there as well. Thanks so very much for all the feedback!

grumpy · 31 August 2005 · Chapter 29: Archery and Shire Cooking

So Aragorn is a collector of bows and well as names. Even the little princess has a bow. As for Hardorn, I have to wonder if he has ever had to use his own ring. Love it that not only did the hobbits bring their own mushromms, in case they needed a snack. But they also cooked a mushroom or two, for their hosts.

Author's reply

I suspect that in close to a hundred years Aragorn has come to collect a good number of things. And, like you, I suspect Hardorn has never used his own ring for his demonstrations, either, and that the argument has become simply a standard feature of the thing--although I suspect that this time Aragorn may actually be serious about them using a different ring from now on! And the idea of the Hobbits somehow getting in there and taking over the kitchens, introducing the Haradrim to the pleasures of mushrooms, was simply too, too tempting to let slip. Glad you enjoyed it!

Kitty · 30 August 2005 · Chapter 30: Sharing Memories

Pippins explanations were lovely and impressing, especially about the encounters with the Nazgul und about the Palantír and Sauron, and about the troll. Another interesting look at Hobbits for the Haradrim, I suppose. And I loved it how you included Ruvemir and his work here. But the most fun was Hasturnerinis question what Frodo carried. It may have been not so unusual then and there, but for me it's unimaginable not to know books!

Author's reply

The Egyptians didn't have bound books--they wrote on lengths of papyrus which were bound into scrolls. In Gondor they probably had both books and rolls of scrolls as well as the sheets of papyrus and parchment you see Gandalf and the librarian sorting through in the film before he finds the account of Isildur. In Harad, as isolated intellectually as Sauron would have wished them kept, they probably had had little experience with bound books; and as they received gifts of such from Gondor it's likely the children would not have been involved in receiving or examining them. (Or it may be just a plot hole I've left in my own story! Heh!) But there is also the question of whether or not Nefirnerini would have been sure she recognized a sculpted depiction of a book. The Haradri also probably have come to see themselves as the ones who REALLY know about how evil works, as they lived with Sauron overseeing their lives for centuries and the presence of the worship of him and all; to realize this apparently careless, thoughtless Hobbit actually DOES know what evil is from his own experience would be an eye-opener for them--to realize that the other world they'd thought of as free of Sauron's influence was actually as aware of his evil and understood Sauron's true nature as it was must have been a revelation.

lindahoyland · 29 August 2005 · Chapter 30: Sharing Memories

I loved Pippin's history lesson.You write well about Survivor's Guilt Complex and how it tormented poor Frodo. Sam did well to give up the ring so easily. I liked Aragorn's thoughts on Isildur and the ring.I see him as victim rather than vilain.I always enjoy your insights into the characters. Many thanks for your kind review.I fear my typing is dire as I never learned how to do it properly !

Author's reply

All too often survival's guilt does go along with post-traumatic stress syndrome, which there is no question Frodo suffered. I felt that considering how movie-Aragorn felt Isildur was weak, to contrast that to what he saw happening to Frodo would be a good way of showing that he'd not truly been weak at all--only just as vulnerable as any other sentient creature under the level of a Vala (other than Tom Bombadil), and that the realization of this would be a good manner in which to realize Aragorn, by refusing to pick the blessed thing up to begin with and by accepting Frodo's leaving, was doing what he had to do both to remain the hope for the future he embodied and to assist Frodo to do his own job. Frodo would have become a monster had anyone other than Gollum taken the Ring from him--and movie Frodo did head that way until he chose life when he'd come so close to falling.

Tigger · 29 August 2005 · Chapter 30: Sharing Memories

This was lovely. To see the teaching of Frodo and what he did for Middle Earth handed to the grandchildren of the Farozi and the members of the Farozi's family who are still trying to understand exactly what the tale means. The comparisons between the two cultures and their experiences was facinating to me. Aragorn telling about the collapse of Barad Dur and the Crown Princess (Sorry, I can't remember how to spell the names correctly, so won't butcher them.) telling how she watched the Death Eater's temple in Thetos collapse was so striking and another example of how the two cultures share more than they thought. I loved Melian's delight at discovering the elanor at the feet of Frodo's statue and realizing how much that will mean to Elanor when she sees the finished statue for her Uncle Merry. For Sam as well. I literally had tears in my eyes as Aragorn told of how the Ring tried to seduce him. The pain and also how deeply Aragorn came to truly hate what the Ring did to those he loved and respected....It was palpable. I also really found Aragorn's realization that his history books in his youth only told a part of the story a fitting addition. History books are excellent at telling the facts of events, but the actual emotions of the people who take part in those same events are often missing. I like how Aragorn realized, after seeing what the Ring did to Frodo and Boromir, and also to him; that maybe Isildur wasn't the weak coward he'd grown up believing his ancestor was. I really thought that was a very well done piece of this chapter. As always, looking forward to the next chapter. :o)

Author's reply

I doubt Aragorn ever considered Isildur to be a coward; but I wanted something to counter the movie-verse view of Isildur that he was weak. That smile Isildur and Frodo both showed as they took the Ring was not theirs, but the Ring's own smirk proclaiming It's victory over these two heroes. That the description of Aragorn telling of the seduction the Ring practiced on him you found to be palpable is quite a compliment. I would feel he would be all the more angry at the Ring for how it isolated Frodo before and after, causing him to fear attacks from all sides--and that he was right to fear their inevitability. But Its destructiveness would last beyond Its demise, also; for Frodo would also probably resent those who didn't forcefully take It from him while he had It, leaving him to Its torments. Am rather experimenting with that idea right now. Sorry I didn't respond earlier--migraines are driving me back to bed in a moment. It's been three weeks of them at this point, and I could do with some relief.

Baggins Babe · 28 August 2005 · Chapter 29: Archery and Shire Cooking

What a lovely chapter! You can't beat hobbits in the kitchen! I love how they just took over, and giggled at Bard's assumption that a food taster was there to see nothing was over-cooked!!! Poor Bard, he must have been very shocked to think people would poison someone, and fancy using food as a means to murder! I suppose the Tooks will set up a very profitable business exporting dried mushrooms to Harad? Loved the archery scenes too. My dear friend Mirkwoodmaiden, who posts here, loved archery and taught me quite a lot about it. Nice to see Bard coming out of Pip's shadow and proving a good teacher, and how satisfying that the Haradri realised that the hobbit bows were not mere children's toys but real weapons. Will Arwen scold her husband for misuse of the Ring of Barahir?

Author's reply

Yes, the export of mushrooms to Harad could indeed prove profitable--if the Hobbits would agree to actually give some of them up, of course! This part was a fun part to write. And I truly felt that the Haradri needed to realize that the Hobbits were capable of defending themselves or just odd folks the King kept around him for amusement only, and that Bard isn't just Pippin's companion, but someone of some substance in himself. As for the Ring of Barahir--well, I think Aragorn himself is realizing it is time to retire it from use as an archery target without further scolding. Nor do I think that in most cases Arwen would sink to scolding to manage her husband, do you? Thanks for the feedback.

Radbooks · 28 August 2005 · Chapter 29: Archery and Shire Cooking

I swear the Ring of Barahir is going to get lost or ruined someday with Hardorn and now Legolas showing off like that! :) I did enjoy Aragorn telling Hardorn that he would have to go and hunt for the ring if he missed - as if he would. But it is a neat trick to be able to do and Hardorn was quite insistent about it. :) You certainly can't see the Farozi doing something like that! Not just because of the ring, but just because of the threat of someone shooting him by being in front of the men with bows and arrows. It was a treat also to see Isumbard doing something better than his cousin and to have him helping Pippin. That was nice. The hobbits in the kitchen was great too. I could just see the two of them taking over and giving directions to the staff about what needed to be done and everyone just staring at them wide-eyed with amazement at these two short little people in their kitchen. And they would be almost unaware of it all and just do what needed to be done - cooking for 50 people is a lot of work, though since they came from the Great Smial and they are hobbits I suppose it wouldn't have been too bad for them. :) Having a food taster would be something unimaginable for them... which is a good thing. I think Gondor has now found a valuable item to trade with Harad - mushrooms! Oh, from my last review - I didn't want to tell you my guess about the trip to the Valley of the Sun because I didn't want you to answer it and ruin it! :) But my guess was that Aragorn might get his star brooch back... Anyway, a wonderful chapter and it's been nice to have these chapters after such intense ones.

Author's reply

I do believe Aragorn has decided to permanantly retire the Ring of Barahir as an archery target unless an object lesson such as what happened with Landrion needs to be given sometime in the future. And I do think Gondor would be a more logical exporter of mushrooms to Harad than the Shire--I doubt the Hobbits of the Shire would allow that many to escape the borders of their land! And I did have a lot of fun writing this chapter! As for the Valley of the Sun--won't tell anyone yet what is going to happen there.

Kitty · 28 August 2005 · Chapter 29: Archery and Shire Cooking

It was good to have this light chapter after all the suspension before. The bow practice was nice, especially Ankhrabi trying all the bows and realising even the hobbit bows are no children plaything, and of course, Amon'osiri and Melian. About the second half I was *very* amused! Somehow it was to expected Pippin and Bard were going to want a "decent hobbit meal", but the way they took over the kitchen of the house *giggle* And the end of the chapter was simply hilarious *wipes her eyes*! Thank you! And thank you, too, for the long response for the last review. I find it always very interesting to know more about how you think about certain aspects of the story!

Author's reply

I can't write much now, for I have to get ready to head south for much of the day. Am glad that you appreciate some of my thoughts on the story--it's nice to be able on this site to share such information so easily. I wanted for the Haradrim to realize more fully that the Northerners--ALL of them--truly take self-defense seriously, and that the Hobbits may be short, odd looking, overwhelmingly light hearted at times, and all; but are yet also a true people who are the equal of any other race when push comes to shove. As for the end of the story and the upset in the kitchens, that was just pure Hobbit mischief taking over.

lindahoyland · 27 August 2005 · Chapter 29: Archery and Shire Cooking

A nice amusing chapter.I believe the Medieaval monarchs here had food tasters.I'm sure Pippin had a wonderful time ! I can hardly wait now to see what happens to Aragorn at the temple !

Author's reply

Many cultures have used tasters at one time or another; and it seemed logical that such would be used extensively in Harad during and immediately in the wake of Sauron's rule--he lied to everyone, after all. And am so glad you enjoyed the light moments--these are fun to write.

lindahoyland · 27 August 2005 · Chapter 28: The Sins of the Husband

I enjoyed this chapter from the Harad viewpoint,as it is easy to forget how people suffer in countries regarded as "the enemy". I hope both Harad ladies will be happy. I am sure our Queen would bow to an exceptional individual.What I meant about Aragorn bowing to the Fazoi is that it seemed to imply Gondor was subservient to Harad as both are seen as one with their lands !I suppose before there was the media though,it would not matter the same !

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Good grief--I missed this one! Yes, I suspect that Queen Elizabeth would bow to someone she felt truly deserved it such as a true war hero or even someone who risked all saving folk in a major disaster. I see what you mean about the possibility of bowing to a fellow monarch possibly being misconstrued; but I find I like the thought of Aragorn recognizing the sovereignty of others in their own lands. Rather liked the movie shot of him kneeling with the folk of Edoras after Theoden's healing, myself. And it's as important for the Gondorians to understand the Haradrim as it is for the Haradrim to begin understanding the Gondorians at this point. Thanks so much for all your feedback.

Tigger · 27 August 2005 · Chapter 29: Archery and Shire Cooking

And the mighty mushrooms strike again!! :oD This was priceless. I can so easily imagine how much chaos two Hobbits could cause in a kitchen not used to visitors helping in the making of a meal. And the cook wants the mushroom recipe. Yay for Pippin and the mushroom sauce!! Loved the archery range scene. As one who was taught to use a bow and arrow, I can say you've got Bard's instruction of the young Haradi Prince dead on. I once tried to pull my Dad's when he still hunted w/a bow and I imagine it would be much the same tension as Legolas and Hardorn's bows would be. Very, very tough for someone to use unless they used/trained w/a bow on a regular basis. All of that scene brought back some lovely memories of my Dad teaching me the basics of archery. Thank you for that!! As always, looking forward to the next chapter!!

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Yes, we had a mushroom attack--had to let them into the story somehow; and I suspect the bag of mushrooms carried among Pippin's and Bard's effects were brought to the kitchen as an afterthought as a result of the conversation with Ankhrabi on the archery range. Am so glad you enjoyed the thought of two Hobbits deficient in Haradri taking over the Farozi's kitchen! As for the archery lesson, I am so glad you find it believable and properly described! I have tried to purge my memory of the awful lessons we got in PE 39 years ago, and yet they resurfaced when I was looking over some of the descriptions of how they trained Mortenssen and Bloom how to use the bow. Found myself comparing my own teacher's technique (which was awful) to that taught to those taking part in the movies, and found all those memories resurfacing. Somewhere my brother obtained for a short time a hunting bow, and I remember trying to draw it. Couldn't do it.

Dreamflower · 27 August 2005 · Chapter 29: Archery and Shire Cooking

This is so wonderful and fun! I love the archery lessons, and read them with envy. If I'd had a teacher as skilled and patient as Isumbard or Legolas, I might not have been such a flop with a bow myself. And it was a nice way to once more point up the hobbits' abilities. And the visit to the kitchen, with Pip and Isumbard cooking the dinner was inspired! I love Pippin's impulsiveness here, obviously still one of his qualities, as he had planned to do this without asking first! And Isumbard's reaction to the taster was so perfect and multilayered: horror, not only that someone would be so wicked, but that they would do that to *food*! And the reactions to Pip's mushroom sauce was perfect! Now I want to see how the Farozi and the others react when they are served this marvelous meal!!

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Oh, dear, wrote a long response to this, and lost it when the server went fritzy on me. I remember trying to learn archery as a teen, and how I was constantly losing the arrow because I didn't realize you really need to tilt the bow some, and I'd not draw the string back properly. I was a total disaster. I learned more about how to actually draw a bow from the descriptions of how they taught those using bows in the movies than I did from my PE teacher! And, yes, I think even when he was definitely an adult from time to time the impulsiveness of Pippin's nature would come to the fore. And, of COURSE we have to visit the world of mushrooms when we write of Hobbits from the Shire! Pippin and Isumbard, I found, were just dying to get into the kitchen. And we needed some more reason for the Haradrim to realize these odd small folk are to be taken seriously and not just dismissed summarily.