Thanks for producing Chapter 2 so fast! Wow, where do I start? The tension among Thranduil, Ithilden, and Eilian is so realistic, it's starting to give me a headache, just like the tension in my own family does! Thank goodness Legolas is there to help relieve some of it. Could you imagine how bad things would have gotten with the three adults without Legolas? I wonder if they realize how important a role he plays in healing their family after Lorellin's death.
I hope that Thranduil realizes that his serious son (Ithilden) is probably just as affected by Lorellin's death as Eilian and Legolas, even if he doesn't show it as much. Sometimes, it seems that Ithilden gets the short end of Thranduil's concern stick (or maybe I'm sensitive to that because Ithilden is my favorite, after Legolas).
So, Nimloth won't be around to look after Legolas -- great plot twist! I can't wait to see how this turns out. I'm grinning already.
Author's reply
I think you're right that Legolas played an important role in healing his family. His own grief is very open, and they all minister to it. And his affection for all of them is clear, and they kind of try to live up to his opinion of them, I think.
It's interesting that Ithilden is your second favorite. It took me a long time to pin him down as a character. Eilian was much easier for me to write about, but Ithilden has grown on me over time.
The Karenator
· 22 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
What a good chapter, your dawnificient. The tension was thick as homemade bread and would have sliced easier. I'll get to that in a minute.
Poor long-suffering Maltanaur. He's taken a beating keeping up with Eilian, but my sense of him tells me that he likes the challenge--my inordinately finely tuned sense and the fact that Maltanaur told Thranduil that. Eilian is concerned about his guard and it sounds like with good reason. Maltanaur must have taken quite a shot. I was a little worried about where his wife was. Silly thing really, but I was glad to see her show up and be so kind to Eilian.
Now, the male...spitting contest. Howard Cosellion has agreed to call this one:
Here we are, folks. The game is just beginning. This should prove to be one exciting match. The players are practiced and the stakes high.
"...Besides, this is my decision to make. I do not need your permission.” There it is, folks. The first real shot. The king quickly takes control. This Elf is no newcomer to the game. He's played with some of the best since the First Age. His command of the game is to be admired, emulated even. The standards of competition begin with this Elf, and with his experience, often ends with him.
Ithilden was the one who had told Legolas that Thranduil should get him a pony. Thranduil thought Legolas might be a bit too young yet, and Ithilden was obviously enjoying the situation. Ithilden picked up his wine and smiled innocently at him. Ah, it's obvious that this player has learned from the master. His skill has truly increased over the years he's been on the circuit. This Elf has a good chance of moving into the lead, taking control and beating back the king. He's a king-in-training and no one can dispute what a competitor he is. We'll keep our eye on him.
Wait! A new player has just entered the game. “Perhaps Nimloth will agree to look after me, so I can go too.” The ball is back in play. This newcomer is well known and has played before in this court. He's young, but he shows the potential to hone a skill worth watching. An emotional player, he has still to learn some of the finer strokes of control, but I look for good things from Eilian Thranduilion.
“You would have to talk to Adar and Nimloth,” Ithilden said in a carefully neutral tone. “They worked the arrangements out between them.” He fires the ball back at the master! Ithilden Thranduilion's a cool one. He is not going to back off now that he's got the king cornered. A diversion. I've seen this maneuver before and it's one that unsettles opponents, but it has to be delivered in just the right tone or it can completely miss its mark. I'd call this a masterful stroke.
“Sit down, Eilian,” he said sharply. The king fires back. What a strategy! He ignores the real competition to engage the newcomer. He's trying to throw Ithilden Thranduilion off balance. This Elf isn't the king of this game for no reason. Take out the weakest opponent first and while the real competitor is letting his guard down thinking the game has shifted, the master moves closer to his goal of scoring the winning point. Thranduil Oropherion is a joy to behold!
“I will be going out tonight, Adar.” His tone made the words sound like a challenge. A backhand shot by Eilian Thranduilion! A truly unexpected move. This Elf is making an impressive showing. He's moving quickly into a plum position. If he can throw the king off his game, then he has a chance at taking home the gold. I've never seen anything like it!
“You should stay home with me,” he declared. Foul! A foul has been called. Interference! I tell you, the worst thing that can happen to a player is to have something like this happen. It interrupts the flow of his game and unless the player can regain his footing, it can spell disaster. Even the masters of this game have fallen from this kind of upset.
“We will come back,” he said mildly, “so you should talk fast.” Another strong volley! Eilian Thranduilion stays in the game! He's sidelined for a moment, but he's left a lasting impression. Yes, folks, this is a newcomer to watch. He's got the poise! He's got the skill! I expect great things from him in the future. The game has never been more exciting!
“Why do you not just take the management of the whole thing out of my hands?” A direct strike! Ithilden Thrandiul is still in this game! He's moving in now for the win. He's got everything on the line. Nothing can stop him now. Wow! I've never seen so much wagered. I tell you, he must feel confident that he's got his opponent where he wants him. This is the game of the Age, the one people will talk about and compare all other games to. I tell you, this is something! Something! A hard fought bout if I've ever seen one.
“You know I rely on you and respect your judgment,” Thranduil said in annoyance. “But I am not happy about leaving Eilian here on his own. I have no idea what is bothering him, but something is and until he works it out, I want him where I can keep an eye on him.” Brilliant! A brilliant play! The king is going for the sympathy move. I can't say it enough: Just brilliant! Ithilden Thranduilion is lucky to still be sitting in the chair and not on his way to the dressing room for the healers to patch him up. And extremely lucky he's still in command. Good restraint shown by the king. Most players would have finished the bout with a final and decisive blow. But not this master! The king is still the king! He's fought well and in the end, brought his remaining opponent over to his side! Absolutely brilliant! I tell you, folks, this had been one exciting match. I'm exhausted and all I've had to do is watch. This is what it's all about. This is the game the big boys play. But we've seen a respectable and encouraging showing from Eilian Thranduilion. It's exciting to watch a newcomer hold his own in the midst of two such seasoned players. The future of this game holds a bright promise; these are players to watch. Whew! That was some game. Now, let's go to a word from our sponsors.
Wait! Just when I thought the game was over, a new shot has been fired. “Did you wait up for me?” Eilian sounded annoyed. “You did not have to do that, but as it happens, I have something to tell you. I am so late because a wild boar attacked an elf who was night hunting. People were calling for help to make sure it had left the area around the cottages, and I joined in the chase. But what you need to know, Adar, is that the elf who was hurt is Nimloth’s husband. She said to tell you that she is very sorry, but she does not see how she can go with you on this trip. Her husband will be all right, but he is going to need care for a while. She will not even be able to come here tomorrow.” A monkey wrench has been thrown into a game that looked to be settled. There is no winner here, folks. The newcomer is back in the game! He's reminded his primary opponent that he's brave, reckless even, and not afraid to take on even the king! Chasing wild boar! The babysitter's husband injured! She's out! She been taken down without a single word! What sort of tricks will this kid pull out of his bag next? He's definitely thrown the king off his game. If the king falters here, the game could be over for certain. Just when I thought my heart couldn't take anymore....
“We can manage,” he vowed. The king is wavering! This could be it, folks! This could be the decisive blow! Who would have thought it? Who would have ever imagined this kid, this newcomer to the game could make such a showing and come back to challenge the king? I'm telling you, we won't leave the air until the final blow is delivered, until there's a clear winner. Stay tuned, folks, this is the game to see. The one to set the standard. Don't go anyway, we'll be right back.
Whew! I'm exhausted.
Karen
Author's reply
Oh my goodness. I am so deeply flattered to get a Karenator review. You are so hilarious, Karen! I particularly laughed at the idea that Legolas was engaged in interference. He was playing his own game, I think. But you live in a house full of males. Surely this kind of thing is not unknown to you. :-)
Radbooks
· 22 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
It's so good to have another of your stories to read! I had no problem following the different flashbacks - I know you were concerned about that. I'm looking forward to having all of them traveling together, it should be an interesting experience, especially now that Nimloth is not able to go with them. Elian might regret his desire to go along with them. :) I'm very curious, of course, about what happened in the south to cause Maltanaur to be so hurt that he is still unconscious. Especially as no other wounds are mentioned, though just because you didn't describe them, doesn't mean they aren't there! :)
I always love it when Thranduil takes charge of something and Ithilden gets upset with him for taking over. Ithilden is right, but I still like it when Thranduil gets like that - so concerned about his younger children that he is willing to step on even his oldest, more responsible son's toes.
Nicely done start to the story (both chapters, though I did not get a chance to review the first one!) and I look forward to seeing where this one is going.
Author's reply
I'm happy to be writing again. And I'm glad you could sort out the flashbacks, because I was worried about that.
The relationship of Thranduil and Ithilden is interesting to me. They seem to be able to treat one another like adults and colleagues most of the time. I suppose Ithilden has had years to prove himself and his mother was around for centuries, which must have shaped both him and his father. But now he can say things that Eilian would never be allowed to say, for instance. And even then he and Thranduil snipe at one another, they let their annoyance go pretty quickly.
Bodkin
· 22 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Thank goodness for Maltanaur, who can look on Eilian as an interesting challenge. He takes up so much of the slack - helping his charge grow up and easing him towards maturity with humour. I think without him Eilian might really have gone of the rails and stormed off into the unknown at irretrievable odds with his father. He makes such an understanding and tolerant substitute parent and friend - no nonsense, but good points seen and praised.
Because Eilian is Thranduil's blind spot. (Maybe the Lorellin-alike recklessness.) He just can't bring himself to acknowledge the majority of the time when Eilian is being skilled and sensible and kind and understanding - and just leaps two-footed on every error. It's the prime parenting mistake of offering attention to bad behaviour and failing to reward good.
The bit about Ithilden not being used to being on the receiving end of Thranduil's sharp tongue had me thinking - he should take some lessons from Eilian, who is rarely on anything else.
Good for Legolas. Love the pony picture. Good - if unintended - parent management skills. Eilian could take lessons. And the whole reading thing - excellent brother management. Thranduil could take lessons.
I'm sure I've missed loads. There's always so much I want to add just after I've pressed post. But they're all off together on a family outing. And they're all feeling flaky one way or another. Boy, does this have potential for being one of those family trips that goes down in legend!
Author's reply
Your observations about Maltanaur are so right on! That's exactly how I see him. He sets limits that even Eilian knows are reasonable and then makes his affection for Eilian clear. He and Thranduil (and Beliond) have been friends a long time, and I think Maltanaur saved his friend's son for him. Because your assessment of Thranduil is right too. Once in a while, Thranduil can dig himself clear of all the bad habits and see Eilian's strengths and tell him, but not nearly as often as Eilian needs. I think Eilian is a needy kid and his mother satisfied those needs and his father can't.
Legolas knows just what buttons to push to get his way with his Eilian. Sly little thing!
Rose Sared
· 22 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Trouble always seems to attract trouble, aye? Nobody seems very happy or at ease yet, battling with grief, orcs, adolescence and small child blues. Sigh.
Hope the trip works out as a bonding exercise.
Beautiful, flowing prose, daw - you really do not need descriptors at all, you know. I am green at your skill.
Rose
Author's reply
Trouble does attract trouble! That's right. When people are unhappy or stressed, they tend to act unwisely, I think.
Beautiful, flowing prose, daw
I can't tell you how much I value this! I'm starting to feel like my sentences all clunk.
LOTRFaith
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Hmm... I find that I am in the same mood as Thranduil :-) I would love to slap Eilian across the head and tell him to grow up!! lol.. Thankfully you have already writen a mature Eilian so I know I can hope :-)
I love the connection between Legolas and Eilian. I think personally of course, that there is something in Legolas that Eilian responds to. Something that Lorellin passed on in spirit. But anyway.. Enough of the deep thoughts :-)
Have too many of them as I am writing my own little story !! :-)
Author's reply
LOL. Eilian is going through a bad patch right now, but he'll settle down and Thranduil more or less knows it. But he's still hoping Maltanaur recovers enough to keep an eye on Eilian again!
Eilian and Legolas do love one another uncritically and that's important for both of them, I think.
Is your story posted? Did I miss that? Or is this one you're just working on?
Manderly
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
So nice to see another chapter! And it was an Eilian chapter too! Yay!
I suppose eventually we will find out how Maltanaur was injured, but it seems like Eilian is feeling a lot of guilt over it. Maltanaur knows his charge inside out which is a good thing for Thranduil, but probably not so good as far as Eilian is concerned. The recklessness is preempted before Eilian can get started on it.
I like this flashing back and forth with Eilian. It seems like Eilian hasn't changed much in the 20 years, only now he doesn't have Lorellin smoothing out the ups and downs with Thranduil.
Thranduil is not having much luck with all three of his sons right now, it seems. I laughed at his urge to slap his older sons as I can well sympathesize with that urge.
Nimloth is not going? Now I am really looking forward to this journey! Both Thranduil and Ithilden should get great opportunities to feed their ulcers!
Author's reply
This did turn out to be an Eilian chapter, which was not what I anticipated when I first thought of this story. But it's an interesting period in their lives and I decided there were things I wanted to write about.
Maltanaur keeps a good close eye on his charge. In the stories set later, Eilian accepts Maltanaur's guidance pretty easily, but I think he must have had to learn to do that, and this is one of the places where he got an important lesson.
In the 20 years since Eilian came of age and became a warrior, he has matured some but is still young. He's gotten some experience as a warrior and some confidence in his skills. He's done well away from home. But the death of his mother set him back, and then when he was recovering, Maltanaur was hurt and that didn't help, so he's reeling a little.
French Pony
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
So here's more Adrenalin Junkie Eilian. But, at least in the early section, he's at least giving the old college try at settling down and acting in a disciplined manner. He obeys the limits Maltanaur sets on him and does his best to be careful and not give Maltanaur the slip. I thought Maltanaur's line “Wonderful idea. You are so good at waiting patiently. You go back and get the patrol, and I will stay here and keep watch.” was rather harsh, under the circumstances. Everyone's so quick to jump down Eilian's throat when he does wrong, but they ignore him when he does right. Probably a reaction to learning how different he is from Ithilden, but no wonder he acts out. I think he won't be the only one feeling guilty when Maltanaur wakes up.
But what did they find in the woods that has five toes, smokes meat, is neither Woodman nor Orc, and led to Maltanaur getting so badly hurt? Tune in tomorrow. .. same Elf-time, same Elf-channel.
I strongly suspect that Thranduil is more pleased by the idea of all three kids coming with him than he'll ever let on to any of them. Legolas will love it, of course, and I think Eilian will be happy to be going out, getting both a change of scenery and the brat at the same time. And Ithilden will be surprised at how much he probably enjoys having everyone together, even though it'll take him a long time to admit it to himself.
But poor Mr. Nimloth. At least he has someone to take care of him who's very good at the job. And maybe she'll let him eat lots of salted meat anyway, on account of him being on the DL and all.
Author's reply
Eilian does his best. He's just quick to act and slow to think sometimes. One time I had him say that he learned slowly but he did learn, and I still think that's accurate. And I don't think Eilian minds so much when Maltanaur says things like that. His relationship with Maltanaur is much easier than the one he has with his father. The emotional entanglement is simpler.
But what did they find in the woods that has five toes, smokes meat, is neither Woodman nor Orc, and led to Maltanaur getting so badly hurt?
A bear has five toes! They found bear tracks. At least that's what my tracking web site said. And the orcs are smoking the meat for the winter. Surely they had to do something to preserve their food for winter. They must be smart enough to do that.
I've been thinking about the trip and how they would all react. It's hard to say, really, but I do have some ideas. :-)
ScarlettPendragon
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Hi Daw!!
Holy cr@p!! You are certainly not one to let a chapter go by without stirring the plot pot!! Nimloth's husband?! I'm glad that he wasn't fatally hurt (Thank you! LOL), but this certainly puts a crimp in Thranduil's plans!! Heh Heh, it looks like Eilian may be getting some Elflingsitting duties!! And I can't help but notice that the boar wasn't caught - hmmmm!!
The memories of Lorellin always bring a lump to my throat - Thranduil's sense of loss is so obvious it's almost physical, and his worry over connecting with Eilian without Lorellin's calming influence strikes me as being very "true-to-life"!! I'm worried that Eilian's behaviour is a combo of strife in his love life and guilt over Maltanaur's injury - I can't wait to hear the details of how exactly Maltanaur was hurt!!
The scene with Thranduil and Legolas and his pony picture was perfect - I have been gifted with "abstract art" pieces from my nieces and nephews over the years and had to try and guess my way through the subject matter on many occasions - LOL!! And I love the way Legolas gets Eilian to stay and read with him, Go Legolas!!
As always, a fabulous chapter, and I can't wait until the actual trip starts - Legloas riding with his Ada is one of my favorite things!!
Thanks,
Scarlett
Author's reply
No deaths. No, no, no. I learned my lesson on that one!
Eilian is going, but he's a guard, and I suspect Ithilden is going to want him doing what guard do. But someone is going to have to keep an eye on Legolas. None of them has done this with Lorellin before so they may not realize what a challenge a kid can be in a situation like this.
Lorellin's death was a tragedy for them all. I think Eilian might have had a much easier time over the next few centuries if he'd had her around long enough for him to settle into an adult relationship with Thranduil the way Ithilden has done. As it is, he had to wait for Celuwen to agree to bond with him before he was really able to deal with Thranduil better.
I got some of that abstract art too - people who looked like spiders, big round head and legs. And Legolas knew how to manipulate Eilian into doing what he wanted. Clever child.
Brazgirl
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
I love this chapter.
I am curious to know what happened to Maltanaur. When Eilian sat beside his keeper and took his hand and spoke... it was so sweet of him. On the other hand I believe that some kind of remorse must be going on there...
Oh my, Thranduil will certainly have a problem. Mischevious elfing among the woods with brother Eilian??? Wow, I wonder what will the adults do. Ahhahah!
It was so sad to read that line of Thranduil: is he losing his hope to understand his son? Poor one.
But the way, I love the glimpses you give us about the queen. It is nice to know more about her and to see how beloved Thranduil acted with a female (his female!) around.
Author's reply
Eilian has a lot on his mind right now, and it's upset his equilibrium, which is on the fragile side because of his mother's recent death. Poor guy. At least you know that Maltanaur survives to be in later stories!
Thranduil is not used to being a single parent and he may be underestimating the challenge. :-)
I feel kind of sorry for Thranduil. He wants to do better with Eilian but it's like with his wife gone he doesn't know how.
Jay of Lasgalen
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Oh, yes - I nearly forgot. What's the significance of this sentence: 'Unless you counted the outrageous behavior with the webbing, of course,'? It sounds very, very ominous.
Author's reply
Coming right up!
Jay of Lasgalen
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Oh, heck. Nimloth's not going? And Thranduil says 'We can manage'? Is this a case of famous last words?
And Maltanaur. He's not conscious yet? How long has it been? No wonder Eilian is in such a state.
I'm afraid there are times I want to slap Thranduil for his blindness when it comes to his middle son. “Do not be impertinent,” Thranduil snapped. Not 'Thank you for agreeing to stay home tonight; for reading to Legolas; for getting him to read again on his own.' No, just 'Do not be impertinent'. Poor Eilian.
Author's reply
Thranduil hasn't been a single parent for very long. He may be overestimating the amount of control he has over any of his sons! I think sometimes bad relations between family become a habit almost. People want to be different but there's all that weight of history pushing against their efforts to change.
rikwen
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
It's wonderful to see a new story here DAW! I have missed your tales all summer.
Orc spit not withstanding, I don't think Ithilden has enough guards to go on this trip with Eilian and Legolas. With no Nimloth to pack and take care of Legolas, I have a feeling that the blankie is going to get left behind or someone forgets to pack enough tunics and pants for a small boy who will be into everything in the forest. And no Malanthar to make sure that Eilian doesn't get into the trouble that he always finds.
Eilian will certainly look after his brother, as he and Legolas are closer than Ithilden and Legolas. But even one small elfling is going to give Eilian a new perspective on what he does to Malanthar. And even Thranduil is going to be challenged with thinking up ways to say no before Legolas can think to answer the questions.
Even though you are headed to some scary moments here, I can also see some very funny events happening. Maybe it would be better if the village leaders came to Thranduil's fortress rather than the group head out to meet the village leaders?
Author's reply
I missed writing about these characters all summer! I spent the time converting "Growing Under Shadow" into an original young adult fantasy novel that I'm now trying to convince some agent to take on. That was fun, but I did miss this family a whole lot.
Thranduil is still learning to be a single father, so he may not quite realize how much he's taken on here.
Maybe it would be better if the village leaders came to Thranduil's fortress rather than the group head out to meet the village leaders?
Good point! Thranduil will take it under consideration for the future.
elliska
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Oh dear! Without Nimloth, this is going to be a disaster! But first things first--you are mean dribbling out what happened to Maltanaur! I love Eilian's connection to the forest as you show it in a lot of parts of this--but his reactions around Maltanaur and his wife are driving me crazy with curiosity!
And I liked see a bit of tension between Thranduil and Ithilden--it is unusual between them and it was fun. They are both still searching for a way to deal with things so the tension seemed very realistic. It is also fun to see someone spar a bit with Thranduil and basically get away with it in addition to actually holding their own. ;-)
Legolas and that pony! Poor Thranduil. But Eilian was very sweet to agree to stay--not all older brothers would have the patience.
I loved the flashback to Eilian first spider hunt. Poor Lorellin. And it was particularly good contrasted with Thranduil and Eilian--it makes you really see why Eilian would be so lost after the death of his mother--she really was the one member of the family that understood him other than a young child. I think that is why I love Eilian so much. He is a very complex character.
Great chapter--I'm almost afraid to see how badly lost a small child with only males to watch him is going to be. *Shakes head.* :-)
Author's reply
I originally intended this story to be all about Legolas, but then I saw how I could tell parts of Eilian's story that I've only hinted at in the past -- how did he come to such good terms with Maltanaur, how did he act when he first came of age and Ithilden wound up deciding to send him south, what was Naneth like with him. When I started to work with it, I could see that the flashbacks might get confusing so I hesitated, but then I decided what the heck. I want to tell this story so I might as well.
Ithilden is as close to a confidante as Thranduil has, I think. They understand one another pretty well and Thranduil does let him say things he'd never accept from Eilian. But then Ithilden is 600 years older and has proved himself pretty well.
Lianna
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Horrors. I said ;) when I meant :( . Methinks I need typing lessons.
Author's reply
LOL. I knew that was what you meant. I didn't think you were so cruel!
Lianna
· 21 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Memories
Uh, oh.
Males of any culture are constitutionally incapable of keeping track of small children, IMHO. When my son was at the stage that Legolas is at now, his father lost him in a shopping mall for fifteen terrifying minutes. The presence of additional male family members would not have prevented this. And Mirkwood is no shopping mall!
"For a wistful moment, Thranduil considered trying to get Eilian to confide in him, but he knew the effort would be pointless. He and Eilian had never understood one another. They had always relied on Lorellin to help them grope their way toward truce, and now she was gone and they had lost their way."
So sad. ;) Eilian is still so young and so alone.
Author's reply
Holy cow. I would have had to damage my husband if he did that. It's true though that kids are slippery. They just don't think and they kind of dart away. And Thranduil is still learning what it means to be a single father.
I felt really sorry for Thranduil in that passage. He loves his son and wants to be close to him, but they just can't do it. And you're right that Eilian is still really young, only 70.
Brazgirl
· 20 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
How nice to read from you again! Another story of young Legolas and Eilian, the trouble-maker! Very nice!
Author's reply
I'm pleased to be back. I thought this story would be mostly about Legolas, but Eilian is indeed making trouble!
amokeh
· 20 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
I really love the universe you've created with Legolas & his brothers, and was really glad to see something new. Looking forward to the rest of the story.... :D
Author's reply
I'm enjoying writing about these folks again. I miss them when I'm not.
sofia
· 20 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
I've missed reading your stories! I'm so glad this is out. I admit to checking at least once to see if I missed an update.
I don't think I ever mentioned it before, but I always, always, always loved the relationship between Eilian and Legolas, especially when Legolas was a youngling. More so than the relationship between Ithilden and Legolas, I have to admit.
Lovely chapter, as always. Keep 'em coming!
Author's reply
I've missed writing them too. And I have to admit my favorite part of this chapter was the interaction between Legolas and Eilian. They love one another uncritically, and I think they both need it.
White Wolf
· 20 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
Welcome back! I've really missed your wonderful stories. I'm so happy to see that this story is about a little elfling Legolas. He was so adorable at that time in his life.
I feel for Thranduil. I know it's really hard for him to run the kingdom and, at the same time, give Legolas the extra time he needs after his mother's death. And Legolas wandering around at night trying to make sure all those he loves are home safe is very poignant.
I think Eilian has given me a new way to express myself---Orc spit. :o)
Author's reply
I think Eilian has given me a new way to express myself---Orc spit. :o)
Legolas too! Ada will be sooo proud.
I like writing about kids, although it's tricky to do it without sentimentalizing them. I feel for him too. After all, from his point of view, his mother went on a short trip and never came back. How does he know Thranduil won't do the same thing?
ScarlettPendragon
· 20 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
Hi DAW!!
OMG!! Daw's back!! And with a Elfling!Toddler!Legolas story - you do know how to make me squee like a fangirl!! LOL!!
I love your Little!Legolas - he just breaks my heart!! When he won't go into Thranduil's arms, you can't tell he's just transfixed by terror at the thought of losing his Ada!!
Actually, just the normal everyday interactions of the Thranduilions at breakfast warm my heart the most - I loved your description of Legolas testing his porridge as though he were tasting wine!! And Eilian getting the stink-eye from Thranduil before being allowed to sit down - priceless!!
OMG - Eilian won't be able to go now for sure now that Legolas is tagging along, even if Ithilden were inclined to change his mind!! I'm afraid he'll be sooo peeved at being left home, until it occurs to him WHY he was left behind - as a guarantee that the line of Oropher won't die out - then he'll be frantic!! I hope he doesn't do anything crazy!! What am I saying? It's Eilian!! Of course he's going to do something crazy!! LOL!!
I really am glad that Thranduil is taking Legolas with him - I can't imagine it's been too long since they were afraid that Legolas would succumb to his grief over his Nana, so I don't know what shape he'd be in without his "daily dose of Ada"!!
Great first chapter!! I am so looking forward to the next!! And I'm delirious with glee that you're gifting us with another story!!
Thanks,
Scarlett
Author's reply
I'm very happy to be starting another story, Scarlett. And I promise: NO ONE DIES.
These characters are better than they were in "When Shadow Touches Home," but they're still healing and Legolas is particularly fragile. After all, he let Nana go on a trip and look what happened!
It's interesting to think about whether people in ME were concerned about whether ruling lines would die out. Oropher and Thranduil were both at Dagorlad, for instance. I'm not sure they thought about it in the same terms we might.
Dot
· 20 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
Well, what have we here?! For some reason I thought it’d be a single-chapter story, so this is a nice surprise!
I still don’t have my home computer back from the clinic :-( so I haven’t re-read the stories around this time period and yet I find that I was immediately caught up in this and it felt so good to be back with this family again! I was particularly missing Ithilden and Thranduil so I’m thrilled to see them here and, of course, naked Eilian and little Legolas are always a good thing :-)
I love the opening. You always do such a great job in capturing a child’s voice. I’m still smiling at Legolas trying to decide if it’s morning and making a picture in his head of what it looks like outside. And Eilian has inadvertently taught baby brother a new phrase! I’d have a said a lot worse if I was woken up suddenly by freezing feet on my back… I was just thinking about Legolas’ dream. You know, in some ways it’s probably a good thing that Eilian isn’t around more because Legolas clearly adores him and if he’s substituting him for his mother, then it’s maybe better that he has his love and protection but is attached to rather than too dependant upon him. And Eilian does love him with that mixture of indulgence and protectiveness of a mother.
So Eilian is still taking refuge in wine, huh? Great scene between him and Nimloth! She clearly has no sympathy for him experiencing the wrath of grapes. Then again, she knows him, and knows how much Legolas looks up to him. I couldn’t help laughing when she slams the door shut!
I will not think about it, he told himself determinedly. I will not think about what happened Hmm. What have you done to Maltanaur, daw? It sounds serious. More importantly, what role did Eilian play?
“Never tell me that my fearsome big brother had a ‘special blanket’” LOL! I seem to remember you telling me that you still have your son’s blanket. I wonder what happened to Ithilden’s? Did it go to Legolas or Sinnarn or is it still in the chest? I particularly love the image of Lorellin teasing Ithilden.
I must try putting honey and cream in porridge. Sounds tasty. Oh, and I wanted to say too how much I enjoy the little details you add. They’re sprinkled throughout this story and it seems to be something you’ve been working on in your later stories. Or else, I’m only noticing it now.
The silent exchanges between Eilian and Thranduil were hilarious. I’m rolling my eyes at the two of them.
It would seem Ithilden isn’t too pleased with the idea of letting Ada out of his sight for long. I get the feeling that this family have just about reached some sense of normality again and anything out of the ordinary is likely to unsettle or upset them more than it should. And boy was Legolas upset. Ouch. I actually felt bad for all them, not just Legolas, because it must be very hard to see him so distressed. Nimloth is very good with Legolas. We don’t see enough of her.
I would be happy to take care of the little one here, of course, but if you like, I am willing to go with you.” Cool, road-trip!! That’s an excellent idea. I’d love to see the gang on the move. Is Ithilden going to stop Eilian going, then? I hate to see the two of them arguing. It’s bad enough when it’s Eilian and Thranduil but the brothers should be able to just be brothers too, and Legolas is too young to be much of a companion. It’s a pity that Ithilden finds it so difficult to explain things to Eilian, and it’s a pity that Eilian takes Ithilden’s decisions so personally. But there you go. Eilian might as well get used to people telling him to grow up. His father will still be doing it when he finally brings Celuwen home.
The little glimpse of Eilian and Ithilden twenty years ago shocked me a little. It was obviously a struggle for Eilian to find his place as a warrior, and for the two of them to learn to deal with each other as commander and warrior. I had to laugh at Eilian amending “I am bored, Ithilden” to “I am bored, my lord.” Yeah, that’s better! I’m really intrigued at the thought of seeing more of that time, although a little part of me is cringing as well ;-)
Great start, daw. It’s wonderful to have you back.
Author's reply
I thought about a single-chapter story and then sub-plots sprouted and here we are. I don't think this will be very long thought. Maybe 6 chapters or something like that.
I liked the idea of elves being enough in tune with Arda that they would be able to feel whether it was day or night outside the cavern. I thought Legolas would take his ability to do that for granted. Capturing a kid's voice turns out to be relatively easy. For one thing, the language research shows that they have trouble using complex sentences as opposed to compound ones, so I try to remember that. The hard part is not sentimentalizing kids.
One of the things I've suggested in later stories is that Eilian has decided he won't put Maltanaur in danger. It's one of the the things that makes him more cautious. This story is partly about the origin of that,
I can't imagine that Ithilden's blanket survived enough to go anywhere other than his mother's hoard of treasures. They get really ragged after a while. I don't know if I'm using more details now. I think my little excursion into original fic has affected me somewhat, although I still think my fanfic is better written. I do more showing and less telling with these characters, probably because I'm so comfortable with them.
Until I wrote that scene about Ithilden and Eilian 20 years ago, I hadn't thought about the fact that they must have had to learn to separate their roles the way they do. I have a whole bunch of notes about what happened 20 years ago (the reasons Eilian got to go south early), but not I'm not sure I'll be able to fit them in. :-(
perelleth
· 20 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
I was half expecting Eilian to show up to breakfast table with sunglasses, and the newspaper and a baguette under his arm! until I realized I was having a flashback to my wild younger years! :-)
Good to have them all back, daw, I'm amazed at how you manage to jump back and forth in time, and be able to catch up with their different characters in these different times of their lives.
I'm, looking forward to it all!
Author's reply
I'm looking forward to it too. :-)
Eilian is very young here and has yet to do some settling down. Having some responsibility on patrol will help him and eventually Celuwen will take him in hand quite nicely. But for the time being, he's driving Thranduil and Ithilden crazy.
I love jumping around in time. If I get tired of one thing, I can do something completely different.
Nelsonia
· 20 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
Hi Daw!!
You made my day with this story! Even if I knew you werent likely to post I still checked the SOA site several times a week during the summer! I wish you all the best in getting published! I loved having little Legolas back and Eilian (mmmmm Eilian... that is enough said...) and I look forward to find out what happens in the sotry and what happened to Maltanaur... :/
Welcome back!!
Author's reply
I'm enjoying this chance to write about little Legolas and Eilian again. And the fact that Eilian sleeps naked made no difference to me at all, nosiree! I'm glad to be back.
Author Reply: PS I forgot to ask. Are you Dr. Nelsonia now?
emjo
· 19 September 2005
· Chapter 1: At Home
Oh Daw you have no idea how excited I am to see a story from you! I love this story already. Daddy Thranduil is my favorite no matter how old his sons are. Thank you for posting!
Author's reply
I'm excited about it too! I missed these characters while I was off writing original fic. I think Thranduil was a good father, the primary evidence being the son we see in the Fellowship. All the bad Ada Thranduil stories drive me crazy.