French Pony
· 26 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
You've taken one of the most difficult forms of writing -- telling a story about a natural force -- and done it excellently. The river, the focus of the story, is an inanimate thing with no agency of its own, so the story must be about the characters and their reactions to the river. And the character interaction works brilliantly here. I love the way that Aragorn and Boromir's discussions of Legolas and Sam's chances segue into conversations about their own backgrounds, as they get to know each other a little better. I like the realistic look at the missing ones' chances -- despite appearances, Legolas isn't a superhero, and can very well be brought down by natural forces. And I love the way that the remaining Company interprets the flotsam and jetsam left behind through the personalities of their owners to think about what might have become of them.
Author's reply
Yes, yes! You’re the first person to really latch on to the title and its significance. You are right – the story isn’t really about the river, but it is at all times a central “figure”. It’s not as if it just made an appearance in chapters 1 and 2 and then vanished; it continues to play a role now and in future chapters. I think that that role with its many facets will become more clear as time goes on.
You’re very right about Legolas not being a superhero, though he’s capable of quite a bit when pressed. He’s not done acting the strongarm, either, in part because of the role he has assumed for himself – that of Sam’s protector – and in part because he won’t have much choice. Eh; you’ll see what I mean soon enough.
French Pony
· 26 October 2005
· Chapter 1: To the Crossing
Oh! Great beginning. I just sat down to read this, and I'm as hooked as those fish right now. You've got everyone's voices and personalities so well and so distinctly, this is a great pleasure to read. Looking forward to more.
Author's reply
Thanks, French Pony! I’m glad you’re finding the story to be so engaging. I really like writing the whole Fellowship together. They’re such a mixed bag of interesting personalities.
Bodkin
· 26 October 2005
· Chapter 5: A Wizard's Burden
Tough decisions. At least they're on Gandalf's shoulders - and he's had plenty of practice. But I should think Frodo will find this one hard to accept.
And those smelly men are now between the remaining seven and Legolas/Sam. And they do not seem to be good news. Bad news with big dogs, too.
This is worrying.
Author's reply
I figured that Gandalf must have had to make plenty of difficult decisions during his long stay in Middle-earth, and this one surely couldn’t be the worst, despite what it could mean for Frodo (and Sam). Gandalf has such a soft spot for hobbits. Frodo can accept it better now than he’d be able to if he were actually faced with the turning point – with the parting of the ways, as it were.
Everyone seems to be worried about the Men… but that’s because you’re all smart, and you all know your fanfiction. Everyone in the Fellowship is pretty much stuck where they are (as long as they hold to their present intentions, anyway). For now, all they can really do is move in two straight, parallel lines.
daw the minstrel
· 25 October 2005
· Chapter 5: A Wizard's Burden
The hunting dogs are a nasty twist. And it looks as if time is running short.
Author's reply
Yes, the dogs definitely make it tougher to avoid being seen by the Men. Most of the Fellowship is lucky enough to be well out of their way.
shirebound
· 25 October 2005
· Chapter 5: A Wizard's Burden
I really love Frodo's determination -- and practicality -- here.
The Ring-bearer’s face was a stony mask of determination, and his eyes swept the path as thoroughly as Aragorn’s did the far bank. He looked as if he meant to make Sam appear by sheer force of will.
“We have to cover as much ground as we can. I don’t know how long you’re planning on letting this go on, Gandalf, but surely it’s not forever. And maybe we don’t have forever, but I won’t give Sam any less than everything I can with the time I’ve got.”
Author's reply
Thanks, shirebound. Really, what other choice does Frodo have than to use the time that he has remaining to the best of his ability? If Sam is dead – as Frodo fears – then they might never find his body. At least Gandalf is willing to go on until they have lost all reasonable expectation of finding Sam alive. It would be hard for Frodo to go on knowing that he hadn’t done everything he could do for Sam.
Dreamflower
· 25 October 2005
· Chapter 5: A Wizard's Burden
I always love when things are shown from Gandalf's POV, as JRRT hardly ever let us inside his head--only once, I think, when Frodo wakes at Rivendell. The decisions he must make now are truly wrenching.
I am very intrigued by these Men--who are they? who sent them? It's quite clear they *will* be coming across Legolas and Sam at some point in time.
And I hope we get *back* to Legolas and Sam in the next chapter, pretty please.
Author's reply
Oh, if you only knew how difficult it was for me to get inside Gandalf’s head! This story was stalled for fully three months while I tried to write chapter 5. I ended up writing large chunks of later chapters because I barely made any progress on the task at hand. Gandalf was a VERY tough nut to crack, and it’s a relief to have his chapter done. He’s not slated to have another.
You know how fanfiction works, all right. :-) And chapter 6 is from Sam’s POV.
TithenFeredir
· 25 October 2005
· Chapter 5: A Wizard's Burden
"Gandalf was not finding it easy to concentrate. The moment he finally had his cloak better positioned, his back began to irritate him. He stood up and walked a few paces to stretch it out, only to be reminded that his feet were tired. He sat down on the boulder again, found it uncomfortable, and was forced to maneuver about to locate the flat, smooth seat he had labored to find the first time."
I really enjoyed your description of Gandalf's many discomforts. Not only was it very realistic, (you must have spent some time camping), but it put me firmly inside Gandalf's head. I also liked the fact that although Gimli didn't hide his hostility toward Legolas he wished no ill fate on him either. Through the whole chappter you maintained the feeling of uncertainty and muted distress. The Men seem an even greater threat now. This is a very engaging tale. I can't wait for your next chapter! ~TF
Author's reply
Thanks, Tithen! I’m glad that someone really noticed that paragraph. I was trying to fully convey Gandalf’s restlessness in this chapter – not just in his mind, but in his body, too. Yes, I have spent lots of time camping! Boulders aren’t much fun to sit on. The moment you move, you lose whatever comfortable seat you managed to find to begin with. The backdrop for this story – namely, the gorge and the river – is taken from my own memories of hiking and climbing in such places.
Amy
· 25 October 2005
· Chapter 5: A Wizard's Burden
Deliciously exciting!
This premature breaking of the Fellowship is so wrenching, but something that they were always likely to face at some point. I like seeing them being brave about possibly losing their relatives and friends, not to mention valued members of the Fellowship.
Author's reply
Thank you, Amy, and welcome! I think it’s easier for everyone to be brave about the possibility of losing their friends now when they still have some time to search. If Gandalf decided that time was up… well, that would be truly hard to bear.
daw the minstrel
· 23 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Forward or Back
I like the combination of Legolas and Sam. They're such a contrast, yet they're edging toward friendship here, and there's already mutual respect. They just don't know much about one another's capabilities.
Who are these smelly men? I'm trying to think of what the smell is if it's not just sweat.
Author's reply
I know I’ve said this before in one of my responses, but I didn’t originally know that Legolas would be the one who would be going downriver with Sam. As it turned out, getting to write him and Sam together has been really enjoyable. There’s so much for them to learn what with all they don’t know about each other. You’re so right – they are a real contrast – but they’ve got some important similarities, too. Like the hearts of lions.
Ha! Love your comment about the “smelly men”. My thinking is that there’s just something off about their scent, along with the usual unwashed body smell that Legolas must have to put up with all the time.
Elwen
· 23 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Forward or Back
Your first chapter was rivetting! I couldn't read it fast enough. Your second chapter was a lovely insight into Aragorn's mind and his relationship with Boromir. And your third is a beautiful interraction between hobbit and elf. To cap it all, your writing itself flows professionaly, carrying the reader along. I'm not qualified in any formal way but strikes me you should be making a living at this.
Author's reply
Thanks for reviewing, Elwen! It’s great to know that you’re reading – and enjoying yourself! (Chapter 2 is a favorite of mine; I’m very happy with it.) I’m honored that you call this work “professional”; it’s very encouraging to hear. Maybe if I can come up with a good, original idea, I’ll write my own book someday. That would be incredible.
TithenFeredir
· 23 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Forward or Back
Oh, it's good to find that Sam and Legolas are relativly OK. I like the way you are developing their relationship, especially they way Sam's natural optimism buoys up the elf as well. The presence of the men is worrisome, though. I think the decision to reunite with the Fellowship as soon as possible is a good one. Cant' wait for the next! ~TF
Author's reply
Everyone seems to be worried about the Men, but then, you’ve all been around the fanfic block a time or two. :-) I didn’t want Sam or Legolas to get too beaten up, as this isn’t a ‘gratuitous suffering’ story. I want it to be believable, interesting, and grounded in realism, so Sam and Legolas are just a little the worse for wear. Thanks for your positive feedback on their rapport, and I’m glad you’re continuing to enjoy!
Dreamflower
· 23 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Forward or Back
This is such a nice bit of almost quiet relaxation, compared to the last chapter. Certainly, the danger and apprehension are still there, but the two of them are out of the River now, and have a bit of time to pursue a burgeoning friendship.
I love the idea that Elves can use either hand. Very clever.
And Legolas' anger at himself when he realized he had hurt Sam's feelings was very well done.
I am very curious about these Men. I am guessing that the two will cross paths with them at some point...
Author's reply
Legolas is a relatively undeveloped character in Tolkien’s works. He’s always in the background, and that means that there’s quite a bit for we fanfiction writers to play with. In my mind, at least, he sees himself as a shield for the hobbits, who are not fighters. Now he’s upset because he feels he’s let Sam down. In a way, I think Sam’s admiration might be somewhat hard to live up to.
shirebound
· 23 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Forward or Back
And Frodo will need that loyalty ere the end, I deem, thought Legolas, looking down at Sam. A little gardener you may be, Samwise, but look what a garden you now tend!
"Mr. Frodo could be in danger!” He leapt to his feet, still clutching the blankets about himself. There was a light in his face that Legolas had never seen there before.
What a marvelous interchange between these two! Both learned much about the other, and Legolas, it seems has learned a great deal about what lurks within the heart and strength of one particular hobbit.
Author's reply
You’ve picked out two sets of lines that I like very much, myself. I think it’s Legolas who really has the most to gain from his newfound friendship. Sam already thinks the world of Elves; it’s the Elf who has to learn not to underestimate the hobbit.
Bodkin
· 23 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Forward or Back
I do like the relationship that is growing between Sam and Legolas - they make an excellent team. And they will look after each other as well as they possibly can - but those men do not seem a good sign. And smelly, too. And they're on the wrong side of the river - and in no condition to attempt a crossing.
I hope they meet up with the rest soon - but suspect there could be some obstacles in their way.
Author's reply
Oh, I’m glad you like Sam and Legolas together. I think they bounce off each other very well. I enjoyed working on how they learned a few things about each other. Both of them ought to be curious – Sam because he’s always been interested in the Elves, and Legolas because he knows so little about hobbits. And what would this story be without obstacles? :-)
harrowcat
· 23 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Forward or Back
I heartily agree with that last comment but hear ominous music hearing about the men. I love the developing respect between Sam and Legolas. And what an interesting thought about elves not suffering 'handedness'. I once taught a five year old who wrote and drew with a pencil or crayon in each hand and used each as he saw fit. His mum was very worried but I found it fascinating. He eventually decided to be a left-handed, manic depressive studying politics and my God-Son! I love him dearly but he is no elf (to quote Sean Bean!)
Author's reply
Cue the menacing music: dun dun dun! I thought it would make sense for Elves to be ambidextrous, as it fits right in with their heightened senses and abilities. I was imagining hand dominance to be a mortal ‘flaw’. Interesting story about your godson – though I wonder why his mother was worried by his ambidextrous tendencies. Then again, such a thing is not very common!
Grey Wonderer
· 23 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
(“Hope often lingers while the sun is shining, only to flee in the dead of night.) I was struck instantly by this line of Boromir's and I enjoyed the dialogue between Boromir and Aragorn in this chapter very much. I also enjoyed Pippin telling Aragorn to hurry because they would not wait for him. Again, I do have to tell you that I am enjoying this story very much. Hope there will be more soon!
Author's reply
I think Boromir too often gets the short end of the stick. Despite the fact that he momentarily succumbed to the pull of the Ring, he wasn’t a bad man; he was a good man who was under a good deal of pressure. I enjoyed developing a bit of camaraderie between him and Aragorn in this chapter. And I’m glad you picked out that line of Pippin’s. It seemed to be like him – to tell Aragorn that they wouldn’t wait (even though they really need him to track Sam and Legolas). And there is more – right now. You do know that chapter 4 is up, right?
Whew! Now that was far too close for comfort. Very exciting indeed! I just wonder if they will survive the cold that they must be feeling about now? Poor Sam. He really was very brave in spite of it all. This is a wonderful story!
Author's reply
Thanks, Grey Wonderer! You’re so right about Sam being brave in this chapter. I thought that the situation he found himself in – being sucked along by a raging river – would be just the sort of thing that he would have feared from even a gentle river, as he’s not able to swim. Come to think of it, I don’t know if Tolkien ever specifically stated that Sam couldn’t swim, but we know that most hobbits could not.
ziggy
· 22 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
I really liked this- the story is gripping and the characters are totally convincing and true to canon. Poor old Sam- I am a bit worried about him, and even more for Legolas. I liked the bit where he stopped himself from goading Gimli- although it would have been worth writing for comic value- great idea. Gimli WOULD stagger back with full chain mail through a raging river. I still wonder though- what was Legolas doing that he didnt realise it was going to rain, and why did he wander off so far- hope you are going to tell us- but not going doesnt get in the way of a good story either. Please update soon-
Author's reply
Interesting how you, like Aragorn, are more concerned about Legolas than about Sam. I stopped Legolas from dunking Gimli because while it’s important to establish their mutual dislike for each other, they’re not children. Legolas ought to have felt somewhat abashed when he realized how his sniping was affecting Frodo. To be fair to Gimli, the river wasn’t exactly raging yet when he came back to tell Frodo, Sam, and Legolas of the location of the campsite, but yes, he’s both brave and (sometimes) brash. As long as the water didn’t go past his nose, he’d probably think nothing of trying to ford across the river while wearing all his mail.
As far as what Legolas should have expected regarding the river.... My thought was that he had no more expectation of a flash flood happening than Frodo or Sam did. That’s why flash floods can be so dangerous; they can happen even when it’s not raining at the location of the flood. In one of my responses to a previous review, I mentioned that the heavy rain upstream was what eventually caused the sudden rush of water. And yes, in the next chapter the reason for Legolas’ tardiness in returning will be given. If he didn’t have one, it would severely weaken both the story and my credibility as an author. Skimping on the setup would be a dead giveaway that all I wanted was to do was get to the action.
Mordaen
· 21 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
This is so good. You are very adept at cliffhangers, and I'm dying to read what happens next.
Author's reply
Oh, thank you very much, Mordaen! And welcome to the story, too. Your interest is really palpable; I’m glad you’ve found the story to be so involving.
daw the minstrel
· 21 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
I like the image of all of them tracking the lost two. But I have to admit my heart stopped when they found Legolas's bow. The elf wouldn't be without it. No wonder Aragorn was so upset.
Author's reply
Like I said in my reply to harrowcat, it was tough for me to write the loss of the bow into the story. Most members of the Fellowship seem to have some kind of iconic item that they carry. Gimli has his axe, Gandalf has his hat and his staff, Aragorn has Andúril, Boromir has his horn, and Frodo has the Ring, among other things. Sam’s got his pots and various homey items, and Legolas, of course, has his bow. Or he had it, at least.
As far as Aragorn goes, I’ve obviously chosen to say outright that he and Legolas knew each other before the Quest. I don’t know whether Tolkien ever made their pre-Quest relationship very clear, but it seems to me that there’s not enough canonical evidence to say one way or the other. Personally, I like the idea that they might have been friends, which seems like a logical enough assumption for the reasons that I stated in this chapter. Aragorn was raised in Rivendell by Lord Elrond, and he’s also a Ranger – so he certainly could have crossed paths with Legolas before the Council of Elrond. Anyway, since I’m assuming that he already knew and valued Legolas, then that adds weight to his feelings when he sees the broken bow. And Boromir was right to observe that the hobbits aren’t as worried about Legolas as they are about Sam. It’s my thought that everyone in the Fellowship with the exception of Aragorn is going to worry more about Sam than about Legolas, in part because Aragorn has done such a good job in extolling the abilities of the Elves. Aragorn’s feelings of friendship make it difficult to take the same comfort from his knowledge. As a matter of fact, just who is worried about who – and why – is sort of a running theme in this story. It’s not a theme of Deep Meaning, but it keeps popping up in different ways.
Larner
· 21 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
The need to rest so as to be ABLE to do something in the morning seems cold yet was so necessary; and to find the relics of their friends' passage but not themselves is heartbreaking. Not that either Legolas or Sam was in much condition to retain pack or bow intact.
Superbly written.
Author's reply
Yes, exactly, Larner! The Fellowship didn’t have much choice but to sit tight and wait for morning, difficult as it was. They didn’t want to do it any more than Sam or Legolas wanted to lose their prized possessions. And thank you very much for your kind compliments. You seem like a person with a pleasant sort of disposition.
harrowcat
· 21 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
Sensible conclusions about the bow and the pack but, oh how hard not to give up hope. But we know they got out of the water so how hard can it be to find a soggy elf? *g*!
Author's reply
Breaking the bow was a hard decision to make, even though it was a perfectly logical thing to do. I thought it very unlikely that it would have survived the trip, being made of wood and protruding from Legolas’ body as it surely did. The hard part of it was the simple fact that the bow is now ruined. Sam’s pots are intact, so having him lose it was more a wrench to him than to me. With regards to the soggy Elf and hobbit, the question now is: how far downstream did they travel before escaping the river? That will definitely affect how long it takes for them to be found.
sayre
· 21 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
Wow.
I am enjoying this story more than any I've read in a long time. Well written, very visual with clearly-drawn characters, and suspenseful as well. Thank you for posting so swiftly, as this is a story that makes it hard to wait for updates.
Eagerly awaiting the next chapter!
Sayre.
Author's reply
Thank you very much, Sayre. There are a lot of good stories out there, so if you’re enjoying the story as much as you say you are, then I’m extremely flattered. I’m doing my best to post quickly. There are eight chapters fully written at the present time, and I’m working on the ninth. I plan to post a new chapter every other day until I run out. Then I’ll have to slow down, of course, but nine chapters is more than halfway.
TithenFeredir
· 21 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
Well, you have me hopelessly hooked now. I think you have captured the characters very well and I am very anxious to see how Sam and Legolas will manage to survive the night. Good story! ~TF
Author's reply
Thank you so much for your comments on the characterization, Tithen! It’s good to know that you think the characters are realistic and true to their “Tolkien” selves. In fact, I think that “good characterization” is one of the highest compliments that can be paid. More on Sam and Legolas in the next chapter.
SilentEagle
· 21 October 2005
· Chapter 3: The Searchers
I love this fic ,(is it on fanfiction.net?) I was reading it and had a feeling of deja vu. Please update.
Author's reply
Thanks, SilentEagle, and welcome! I’m glad you’re liking the story so far. Yes, I’ve been posting it on ff.net, too.