Linda Hoyland · 21 August 2008 · Chapter 36: A Wedding Made
What a lovely wedding!
Author's reply
Again, thanks so very much! I love writing weddings, I find!
The Tenant from Staddle by Larner
Linda Hoyland · 21 August 2008 · Chapter 36: A Wedding Made
What a lovely wedding!
Author's reply
Again, thanks so very much! I love writing weddings, I find!
Baggins Babe · 11 August 2008 · Chapter 36: A Wedding Made
Those gifts are all so beautiful and perfect - and gifts from the King and the Steward too! What a lovely wedding. I'm so pleased that Alvric asked Barti to stand with him. Now if only Barti could get over his loathing of Frodo..........
Author's reply
I'm so glad you appreciated them. I'd think that this tangible proof that her husband is so honored by those who sent him to Bree would help Denra realize just how big the world is as well as the importance the King places on her new husband's errand! And I agree about Barti and Frodo! Heh!
Lúmë · 6 August 2008 · Chapter 36: A Wedding Made
Sweet! Love the description of the wedding gifts!
Author's reply
Thank you so, Lume! Love to see characters I've come to love getting some of my favorite things from the days my late husband and I had an antique store. Lithopane pottery and figured lace, and silver trays....
harrowcat · 5 August 2008 · Chapter 36: A Wedding Made
Finally got time to read and savour this chapter Larner. Love your different takes on polystyrene packing materials *g* And the velvets will be useful too. I am glad that the dog and cat are getting on so well. Trust them both to find a good spot to watch from. The pottery sounds beautiful - hope that cat is careful though! You can keep the punch set though I want a piece of the volcano glass!!!! Ah! More OCs to grow to know and love; our wonderful Ranger's wives. Barti continues to be touched and changed by the people and events around him. I am glad that Alvric asked him to stand for him. The wedding ceremony was lovely. Methinks foresight came into play over the wedding gifts! *big satisfied sigh* as I come to the end and glad the Muse is moving this on.
Author's reply
If I am ever able to come to England again I shall bring you some Mount St. Helens glass, if that would be acceptable. When my father died and Mom had to return Stateside from Costa Rica they packed her dishes in great pasteboard barrels, with straw as the packing. The reeds and rushes from the swamps and ponds on our property had a thick, spongy pith, which would do well, I'd think, as packing. I used to wind it into helmets for when we pretended to be knights in armor, and we had alder shoots trimmed of branches as spears. Now that Sauron is cast down, I'd think that the Rangers would finally begin showing those in the Breelands and similar settlements that they, too, are family men; and of course they'd wish to share a wedding with their wives! Glad you enjoyed the ceremony. Thanks so!
Soledad · 4 August 2008 · Chapter 36: A Wedding Made
Awww! So lovely! Nice wedding gifts - Delphie certainly knows how to do things properly. And Master Alvric seems to know how to deal with dear Bartolo - just a little kindness, a little well-deserved attention, and he's uncurling and not bristling his spikes anymore. Have I mentioned lately how much I love this story?
Author's reply
Oh, yes, Delphie definitely has taste. And both she and Alvric have learned how to deal with Barti by now. It's helped him release some of his resentment--at least for the moment. And I'm so glad you do! Now, to finish with the editing of that last chapter....
Kitty · 4 August 2008 · Chapter 36: A Wedding Made
Oh wow, this set of cups and bowl Delphie sent to Denra and Alvric sounds truly beautiful. Don't know why no one did want to buy it for so long! I could nearly be a bit envious :) The other gifts from Gondor are great, too, and it must be quite awesome particularly for Denra and Carnation to realise just *who* did send these! The exchange about Gondorian cloaks made me smile. Between Delphie and Barti poor Alvric has to be careful in talking about these things, hasn't he? But he managed admirably. And he even slipped in that only the highest ranking lords of the Realm are allowed to wear circlets! At the moment I can't remember if the Bracegirdles know about Frodo's and Sam's circlets already and don't have time to search for it, but even if they don't know yet, they may learn it later. Poor Barti *evil grin* And Persi is now in a position to learn even more. Oh, Alvric asked Barti to stand up for him? Well, that's a surprise! It even seems to have softened Barti a bit. He was unusually nice at the end, when they looked at the table shawl. Anyway, I loved the wedding. It was such a wonderful ceremony, and it was just perfect that Lord Halladan married them. Absolutely lovely, Larner! Thank you! *happy sigh*
Author's reply
We had some lithopane porcelains from Germany and Japan when we had our antique shop, and I've been wondering how to work such items into Middle Earth, and this proved to be the perfect place for it. I now have a votive candle holder that is lithopane porcelain, with an image of a cherub that shows when the candle is lit. I love it! And I'm certain you're right about Denra and Carnation feeling overwhelmed about the authors of such gifts as the tray and bowls. This is a bit much, to realize these far-off lords think so highly of Alvric to wish to send him wedding gifts! As I advised Dreamflower recently, Alvric did find himself a bit in the middle between Delphie and Barti, and found himself having to tread a bit lightly. No one within the Shire knows about the Circlets as yet, but that may come, and it would be wonderful for Barti to become aware of them, I think. You are delightfully evil, you know! Heh! Am so glad you loved the wedding. Thank you for such a lengthy commentary! I so appreciate it.
Soledad · 13 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
I so love scenes with the Bracegirdle family! Especially with something melting within dear Bartolo. I don't envy Delphie, though - her family is quite a handful. If Begonia were my daughter, I'd have pulled out all my remaining hair by now. Petunia is a very sweet lass, though.
Author's reply
I'm glad you do, Soledad. I find I love them, too. Five children would be a handful for any parent, I think. Sometimes our two and a half were more than we could handle. And even Begonia has her good points--she just doesn't yet believe she should think on them seriously, I fear. Glad you share my opinion of Petunia. I quite like her myself.
Baggins Babe · 13 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
What a gorgeous depiction of hobbits preparing for a journey, with the food and the hot bricks for warmth. I love Delphie and the children - especially Petunia suddenly looking grown-up and reminding Delphie of her own mother - but oh that Barti! What a cheapskate! I love the way his wife treats him - she knows exactly what he is like (and loves him nonetheless).
Author's reply
Ah, yes, Delphie DOES know her Bartolo, and as you say, loves him as much because of his vulnerabilities as in spite of them. Thank you for the comments, BB.
SurgicalSteel · 13 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
Heh, children will be children, won't they? And Bartolo not quite suggesting a cheap, tacky wedding present - some things never change! Good to see an update, and looking forward to the wedding!
Author's reply
Some husbands are cheap, and the children ARE children after all! And hope to have the wedding posted soon.
Lúmë · 13 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
Ah, the fun of mobilizing a family! I can just picture it, well done! And I hope you get your long story chapters back in line ... talk to them firmly and let them know you won't be intimidated :)
Author's reply
There were four of us while we were growing up, with my older brother twelve years older than our younger one. We had LOTS of scenes like this! As for the chapters--they have been eking their ways out so slowly! Heh!
Linda Hoyland · 13 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
It is just amazing to think that Elrond can remember so far back!Very wise of the Hobbits to use hot bricks to keep warm!
Author's reply
When you remember that Elrond and Elros were born toward the end of the First Age, that gives Elrond over six thousand years of memories! And the hot bricks were commonly used in carriages, and even carried in ladies' muffs--it was fun to write! Thanks so, Linda.
Kitty · 12 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
Poor Lindor will be busy for quite a while to make all these copies. Though these family trees and pieces of history are a great idea, and I am sure some of the Hobbits will be very interested. I’d not even be surprised if the Travellers will go and try to find out more about their ancestors *before* the Shire was founded. From what Lindor said, the papers should be enough to send them asking in Imladris. Barti with his reluctance to go to the wedding and his ideas about a proper gift made me snicker, as usual. Really, the best thing he ever did was marrying Delphie! And why do I get the feeling girls don’t have changed much since the Ring War? *grin* Now I look forward to the wedding!
Author's reply
Well, it is said in the Appendices that Merry DID study in the library and archives of Rivendell, so it is possible he might indeed be looking at many of the records there; and he might also have studied Bilbo and Frodo's library as well, if as I suggest Bilbo had begged Elrond to send him anything he might have of Hobbits coming over the passes. He might even find things Gerontius had gathered in the Great Smials as well. Oh, I find I quite like Barti's situation. He doesn't really want to go, but would rather go to it than to a banquet to honor Frodo; then hopes to duck out on it anyway, and has to be bullied. And by this time Delphinium has his number thoroughly! And I bet the very first girls were much the same as current ones! No, we don't appear to have changed all that much in recorded history, after all! And I, too, am looking forward to the wedding. Heh!
Antane · 12 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
I was just thinking the other day that I hadn't seen a chapter of this recently and here one is! But *shudders and more shudders* to think of hobbits taken alive by the Enemy...ick, ick, ick! Namarie, God bless, Antane
Author's reply
I finally kicked the muse in the rump, and this chapter finished itself, and I'm better than half done with the next one, I think. As for Hobbits being carried off alive for any reason, including orc breeding stock--well, I've played with that idea in "Stirring Rings." I agree--ick, ick, ick! Thanks so much, Antane.
Dreamflower · 12 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
Oh goodness! How lovely to see a new chapter! I do so love Delphinium's deft, subtle, but firm, handling of her prickly Bracegirdle husband, LOL! She just plows ahead with the plans, knowing that he'll have to give in or risk long and tedious argument from the kids, who are taking it all for granted! *grin* I really like Delphie.
Author's reply
Yes, Delphie knows how to deal with her Bartolo--and he wouldn't live half as happily and well if she hadn't learned to do so. I find I like her, too.
harrowcat · 12 July 2008 · Chapter 35: Moving Toward a Wedding
I am so pleased that you have managed to get another chapter written. I want to go to the wedding too - oh, wait....you are taking us all there! :) Off on my own trip in a few days time to France. Lourdes and then up the coast to camp. Looking forward to it but will be out of internet range!
Author's reply
Yes, the wedding is coming up, and I hope soon. This next chapter is writing itself, so hopefully it will be posted once you get home. I've always promised that I'll visit the Isle of Jersey once again one day. I hope it will be in the next ten years. And I hope you'll catch the last two chapters in 'Neath Anor, Ithil, and Gil.
Lúmë · 29 May 2008 · Chapter 34: The Ringbearer's Wedding Gift
Wow, this was a marathon read from chapter 6 to here! The real world feels quite surreal at the moment, I'm so much in the Shire and Bree... I can but reiterate how much I enjoy visiting Middle Earth with you. Superbly written, and now I must patiently wait for the next chapter :)
Author's reply
Thank you so, Lume. Am sorry this one is going so slowly, but for some reason the chapters for my longer stories have been anything but cooperative. This morning I finally was able to finish this chapter, and am about halfway done with the next one. Hopefully it won't again take two months to update! But with "Stirring Rings"--I wonder if I'll EVER get Bucca of the Marish onto that battlefield!
Linda Hoyland · 16 April 2008 · Chapter 34: The Ringbearer's Wedding Gift
What a thoughtful gift!
Author's reply
I'm glad you think so. Frodo does love beauty wherever he sees it, and wishes ever to share it with others. Thanks so for the feedback.
Antane · 13 April 2008 · Chapter 32: A Bad Cold
I wonder if he's got the same cold that is making the rounds in this part of the world...poor thing. And he's remaining stubborn about refusing to believe in his own goodness - wanting to save 'Sharkey' so he could heal, just as pointed out, that Frodo himself needs time to heal. Namarie, God bless, Antane :)
Author's reply
We've had it, believe me, and it keeps slipping back on folks after mutating JUST a bit. Yes, Frodo is in need of his own healing. Thanks so much, Antane.
Soledad · 13 April 2008 · Chapter 34: The Ringbearer's Wedding Gift
I've seen women in Belgium and the Netherlands make lacework, so I have a vague idea what incredible job that table shawl must have been. Still, it's sad that Frodo won't be able to attend to the wedding. I wonder if Bartolo and Delphie would go? He was, after all, the first "pupil" of Master Alvric... plus, he'd crawl up the walls how everyone would express their regrets that Frodo hadn't come. *g*
Author's reply
When one of my roommates from college informed me she was to marry and asked me to be matron of honor at her wedding--she was a bridesmaid at mine--I started a tablecloth for her. It's not particularly big, and took me MONTHS to complete, but she loved it. It was done in motifs rather than in filet crochet. My one attempt at filet crochet was NOT my best work, although I plan to try again. My stepdad's mother has often been my inspiration, for she could do well at almost anything she turned her hand to; and a capelet she crocheted for me is one of my favorite possessions. As for Bartolo and his family--I rather think he's committed himself to going, having considered missing the dinner honoring Frodo to attend, should the wedding be soon enough to allow him that as an excuse. No, I doubt that Delphie will allow him to miss it now! Heh!
harrowcat · 13 April 2008 · Chapter 34: The Ringbearer's Wedding Gift
A happy and sad chapter. I do feel for Sam. To feel shut out of part of Frodo's world must hurt just a little even though he may understand. And like your other reviewers I can definitely see both the King and Queen sitting at the table covering with their friends. Goodish news from home. Mum's pressure sore is on the mend, albeit slowly and Dad's tests turned up a lung abcess rather than cancer thank goodness. Jet is as lively as ever and sends you many prances and a deep woof.
Author's reply
Frodo's truly begun his withdrawal, although he's not yet ready to admit it, I think. And I'd think Aragorn and Arwen would indeed love this table cloth. Good to hear the pressure sore is finally healing. Yes, to have the worry that there might be a cancer, and to learn it's merely and abcess--not that an abcess is "merely" anything! What a worry! And the dogs, kitty, and birds here send greetings in return. Yogi lies on his back on my bathrobe that's lying on the foot of the bed, a smile on his little pomeranian face, and his sister Belinda lies curled up on the extra pillow, quite pleased with herself.
Kitty · 13 April 2008 · Chapter 34: The Ringbearer's Wedding Gift
Poor Sam, it has to be frustrating how close Frodo has become. I’d be terribly curious, too! Alvric did a great job in describing the moment during the struggle on the Orodruin, how everyone felt when the Ring took Frodo and then Gollum fell into the lava with It. The wedding gift sounds marvellous! Oh yes, I can imagine that Denra and Alvric will treasure it. And I'd not be surprised if Aragorn one day will sit at a table with just this lacework. Though it is sad that Frodo refuses the invitation. It would do him good and cheer him up to witness this wedding, I am sure.
Author's reply
In trying to "protect" folks from possibly unpleasant associations, Frodo keeps his own council perhaps too well. And I'm certain that Sam is curious indeed. Glad you like how Alvric tells his tale of what was observed from within sight of the walls of Mordor. And I suspect many felt odd that day. I've only done one piece of filet crochet, although I've considered trying my hand at it again. But I'd so love to do such a piece for my own table! But you're so right--Frodo ought to attend the wedding and see for himself how well his gift suits these good folk, and how much joy his presence would bring them. And the joy of the day be with you.
eiluj · 13 April 2008 · Chapter 34: The Ringbearer's Wedding Gift
And I imagine someday they *will* entertain the King on that very tablecloth....
Author's reply
Oh, I'm certain they will, eiluj! They will probably travel one day between the two kingdoms, and Aragorn will come north! Heh!
Dreamflower · 12 April 2008 · Chapter 34: The Ringbearer's Wedding Gift
What a gorgeous gift! I could easily picture it exactly as you described it! It's such a shame that Frodo has begun his withdrawal in earnest. A wedding would cheer him, even if it physically exhausted him--as he knows it would. And I loved Alvric's description of the day the Ring went in the fire--perfect!
Author's reply
I'm so glad you like the description of it. I love to crochet myself, and my stepdad's mother did some beautiful pieces of filet crochet I've itched over the years to try my own hand at. My one essay wasn't the best piece of work I ever did, I fear, although the one tablecloth I did do was warmly received. You all are right--Frodo SHOULD force himself to go--he'd enjoy it and would see how much joy just his presence brings these good folk. However, he's a stubborn Baggins, after all. And so glad you, too, like Alvric's tale.
Halrohir · 4 April 2008 · Chapter 33: Resentment Stoked
Once again, Larner dear, you have entertained, amazed and moved. This story you've shared with me has cemented your talent in my mind, and I am grateful for reading it. Now, on to mechanics. Your faithfulness to Tolkien canon has been remarkable! The only possible quibble I have, after reading all the chapters you have given thus far (is it done? I hope not!) have been a few typo errors buried deep within the text. If you like, I'll go back through them once more and point out what I found; for now, I simply noted them and kept on with the story. As I said before, you've presented us with a wonderful addition to your already wonderful body of work here, and I am both envious and applauding. Thank you again! HALROHIR
Author's reply
I'm always glad to have errors pointed out to me, for I'm the first to admit I'm eminently fallible, and often the typing gets decidedly behind the brain. No, the story is still ongoing, as I'm still working on this and on "Stirring Rings" between bouts with various vicious li'l bunnies and other nuzguls that love to attack me. And I'm honored to find you consider it within Tolkien's canon for all I have added so much to Middle Earth, and particularly to the Shire and the Breelands. Heh!
Halrohir · 3 April 2008 · Chapter 11: Quarters in Bree
Ah, Larner, another wonderful work by your hand! I've enjoyed reading all the chapters of "The Tenant From Staddle" thus far, and I was holding off writing a review until I was done and make it one comphrehensive piece - but this chapter and the one before it prompted me to review sooner. This particular chapter struck me: where and how did you come up with the back story and all the raw information on the realm of Arnor!? Is this all your creation? I would sincerely wish to know, it's most impressive. I bow to your talent once again, HALROHIR
Author's reply
The division of Arnor into three kingdoms--Arthedain, Rhudaur, and Cardolan, is detailed in the Appendices, as well as a vague description of the failure of Rhudaur and Cardolan. Rhudaur, to the southeast, ended up much corrupted as folk entered it from Dunland and other areas to the south and east, and eventually it reportedly became mostly a haven for evil men who opposed the rulers of the Dunedain. Cardolan, to the west, also failed. Once Rhudaur and Cardolan no longer existed as independent entities the King of Arthedain again claimed all the lands formerly under the administration of the northern kingdom, and naming his son with the "Ar-" prefix used to indicate the Kings of Numenor in its latter days, "Ar-" meaning "Lord." After the final battle between Arvedui's folk and the army led by the Witch-king of Angmar, Arvedui's son and heir refused to take the title of King, as there weren't enough of the Dunedain of the North left to constitute a proper kingdom any more, and they retreated to hidden enclaves within the Angle and apparently northwards toward the ruins of Annuminas and the royal fortress of Fornost. That's all information from the Appendices. Much of the rest of the information given here is based on what we know of the organization of laws and administration within Numenor and Gondor, augmented with what I know of how such things were handled in Europe and particularly England during the height of the medieval period. England had a very strong guild system, and the bestowal of available land for their maintenance on newly made lords or individuals who had earned the favor of the king is well documented. As Numenor was supposed to be extraordinarily enlightened and given to advanced technologies, many of them lost and forgotten by the time the events in LOTR took place, I imagine their laws would be similar to ours. The legal and administrative structure of the Shire is mostly guesswork based on what information Tolkien hints at here and there. We know there were family heads, and that the husband and wife often ruled the extended family jointly. Tolkien himself described how the Tooks were ruled in one of his letters in which he detailed the story of Lalia, the obese dowager mother of Thain Ferumbras Took who preceded his cousin Paladin Took in that office. In another letter he indicates that part of the reason Otho and Lobelia Sackville-Baggins wished to have possession of Bag End was because they were certain that with it they would inherit the family headship for the Bagginses to go along with the headship for the Sackvilles he'd inherited from the distaff side of his heritage. I have written several stories in which Aragorn's kinsmen from Eriador feature, starting with "The King's Commission" and going on through "The Ties of Family" and so on and eventually working their way into this story. I am working on a general history of the two kingdoms against the particular histories of Gandalf and Saruman in "Stirring Rings," and in it you can see more detailed guesswork on how Arnor deteriorated and the Shire and Bree grew. This story is growing slowly, and "Stirring Rings" is even slower than this one to grow. How long it will take to finish the two of them I don't know. At the moment these are the only two longer stories I've posted that I've not finished.