Elf, Interrupted: Book One: Glorfindel Redux by Fiondil

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demeter d · 1 August 2022 · Chapter 28: Judgment Passed

I only first discovered Fiondil's work when Elf Academy Two was beginning. So I joined his universe very much "in progress" as it were. I was only familiar with the rich history he had written for these people through references made in the stories. Over the years since then, I have slowly picked up the rest. I believe the message of this chapter summarizes, for me, the heart of all of Master Fiondil's comment on Tolkien's world. "Tell me again how much my Adar loves me..." Over and over in all of his stories, our friend Arthur shows us just exactly how much he believed that our "Atar" loves us. Reading his work, I can imagine him in the light of that love. I would like to copy all of his writings, so that when the day comes that this site is gone, I can still read that message of hope.

5QiPyR6Vx2Za · 2 December 2015 · Chapter 35: Post Mortem

This is really upnlitfig *sigh* I dont like that I have this problem and I try to keep things in perspective because I know the world doesn't revovle around myself but at times I just get the feeling that everyone is looking at me and judging me for my every mistake, it makes it hard to even interact with people without being even in the least anxious. This is upnlitfig though and I will def turn my problems to the Lord because at this point he is the only one that can help me. Thanks for the post and your helping people like us by just talking about your situations and giving us all courage.

dajH6RnRE · 2 December 2015 · Chapter 31: Glorfindel Among the Vanyar

I haven't seen this argument, but I rellay don't understand it. For me it isn't remotely about trust, it's about the ideas that are there. If the ideas are good, then who is writing it shouldn't matter. If not, ditto. I will make the caveat that I do not do UUism professionally. I've had some pretty cranky arguments in the past with anonymous people, most of whom having at least some idea of who I am. If I were a UU seminarian and my new internship supervisor announced Remember that time you publicly mocked the political views of an anonymous blogger named Fredo'? That was me. it would be, to put it mildly, a bad day. So I can understand why UU seminarians and ministers would like to know for their own peace of mind. But from I'm standing, I like what they are saying and I don't rellay care who is saying it. CC

I2J9WSJ4l4k · 2 December 2015 · Chapter 22: Bathtime and Bedtime Stories

Loved this. It is indeed one of most very siaepcl things we share about our little boy, especially because of how our relationship with that song, and the natural ritual of singing it to him, keeps evolving. He never asks me to sing it, though I still do at night sometimes, along with the Beatles' In My Life and my made-up version of the Beach Boys' Surfer Girl ( little Sammy, little one ). For the first year and a half or so, though, Close to You was an almost-daily naptime favorite. It's nice to think that maybe that, plus all of your nightly singing, helped it become the happy sing-along Sam and his mama share now. I suspect as the years go by, that song will continue to mean more and new things to us. Such a brilliantly simple little song, though really it only seems/sounds simple. Of all the things that can instantly get to me, it's singing/humming it to myself when I'm alone. Makes me think of his smile and his giggle. And it takes me right back to the my first moment alone with him after he was born. I don't know if I mentioned it at the time or not, or anytime since. You were out cold in the moment once he was out, and you had your first amazing moment with him, your terrified, mildly panicky, drowned-in-tears eyes went from settled to plenty sedated. I watched as they warmed and examined him, until it was time to cut his cord something that, as I think of it now, still turns my stomach a little, yet in the moment seemed perfectly logical, very fatherly and (for chrissakes!) the LEAST I could do after watching your abdomen get pounded like a wad of dough by not one but two obstetricians.After that, they told me to get lost. Well, not literally, but they sent me back to the now-empty room down the hall, where we'd been for the last 30-some hours, quietly and nervously waiting. I stood there, still in my scrubs, for about five, maybe 10 minutes longest, loneliest 5-10 minutes of my life until they wheeled him in on a tray to quickly do more little tests (and shots? I forget, some of it kinda blurs) and then I had another five, 10, 15 minutes with him alone? Could've been an hour for all I know. Time pretty much stopped.And I cried. No, sobbed. Hard. And lots. Hard not to well up now just remembering it.And I held him close, as he got quiet and dreamy again and I sang that song.Couple of times, too such a perfect lullaby, you can just keep going back to the first verse, start it all again, repeat the on the day that you were born part. Why'd I sing it? Cuz I'd already been singing it to him for months?Why'd I choose that song, anyway? Cuz it was the way I felt the first time I sang it. It was as close to him as I could get.

Ithilwen Eruanna · 3 June 2015 · Chapter 142: Songs of Power and Glory

I know that Fiondil will never read this, but I feel that I must write it anyway on behalf of all those that read the reviews others have left. Elf,Interrupted has become canon in my mind, from the personalities of the Valar to the friendships between canonical and own characters. He has brought me to proudly admit that lord Nàmo is my favourite vala, to say that I now know more elvish than I have ever before, and to say that I have learned important life lessons along the way. I am a Christian and I am proud to say that this story has strengthened my faith and helped me to better understand some of the doctrines of the Bible better. I want to thank you, Fiondil, for taking the time to write this piece that has forever impacted my life. I cannot wait, one day, to see you when I also pass into the West, and to get to know you better! ....now if only I could remember not to whine.... Melkor take you, Eonwë, get out of my room!!!! *grins*

Bellethiel Marcaunion · 28 April 2015 · Chapter 142: Songs of Power and Glory

Wow. I finished this in February, and it had such a lasting impact on my life. I had been going through a period of doubt, and your story brought me back to Christ. Thank you. I know you won't read this, or if you do, definitely won't be replying, but I had to say thank you. You changed my life with the Elf, Interrupted books. One of my friends and I have often remarked that your stories will always be canon for us. It even made it into her story, Glorfindel's whining that is. You taught me Quenya and Sindarin with this as well, I'd tried to learn it before, but your stories were what made it stick in my head. I will never forget "I have an orc-lover on my hands" - it's already become a family joke between my brother and I. So I guess, well, to be repetitive, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. May your memory be eternal. Ci hannon, Bellethiel Christ is risen!

hawkeye · 26 January 2015 · Chapter 57: Those Who Guard

I'm beginning to think that Irmo and Námo are very devious *laughs* But humour aside, I think Irmo was not just using figures of speech when he said that from the time Finrod first left Aman, they were working towards this time. I wonder if he was thinking, even then, of initiating Finrod into this order. I really like the image of the Valar welcoming Finrod as a companion. It brings home that, Valar though they may be, they are all children of Eru. While the Valar have been entrusted with the guidance and guarding of Arda, and indeed what they have made, the Children really don't belong to them. It's a picture, I think, of what Irmo explains when he talks about how the duty of a king is to guard. As a king, that was Finrod's duty to his people because, as his people, he still holds his position in trust from Eru. In the same way, I think Irmo might be trying to say a similar thing about the position of the Valar over the Children. "There was something unearthly, even by elvish standards, about the place, or perhaps, Finrod amended, more earthly than anything he had ever felt before." This actually reminded me of some descriptions from Narnia. But that aside, the closer you come to the source of something, the more "real" it feels. It's like the difference between seeing a picture of a painting, a copy and then the real thing. Nothing quite prepares you for it. Regardless, being brought to the Valar's personal sanctuary is a great honour. So Finrod's oath was also that far reaching. Interesting that he, like Manwen, didn't fully realise at the time what he was doing. It is almost frightening, in a way, but it's the good kind of fear. Perhaps awe is a better word to use. Finrod did seem to bounce back rather more quickly than Manwen did, but I wonder what the long term effects will be. And there was no blood this time. I love how you write the Valar in these more personal settings, actively caring for the Children and interacting with them. And I really enjoyed seeing Irmo and Námo together. Even though they are brothers, and quite different, it's really fun to see them in the same context. Now, I am horrible curious who the others are ;) Thank you for an amazing read :)

hawkeye · 25 January 2015 · Chapter 56: Repercussions

"Not sure how to address this elf who had become a stranger to him overnight." This is exactly how I feel. Finrod has, as you say, definitely grown in stature and I absolutely loved him in this chapter. Not only has he grown up he finally seems to be comfortable with who he is and who he was, and I think we are finally getting a glimpse of what he was like in Endore. It's easy to see why he was so loved. It's also significant that the elves who were present at the oath taking are seeing him in this different light. In the long run I think it will help the perceptions of the reborn, and how they are treated by the elves of Aman. The respect shown by the Maiar was also a surprise. The effect of the oath on Manwen was pretty extreme, and disturbing on some levels. It's hard for us, I think, as humans to understand the implications of that kind of an oath. I think it's interesting that, despite his not wanting his wife to take the oath, that afterwards Laurendil seems to feel much more at peace. It's almost as if Manwen makes it possible for him to take up his apprentice duties. In some ways maybe witnessing his wife's oath taking, Laurendil was able to confront some of his own fears or at least put them to rest. Thank you for another amazing chapter, Fiondil. I loved the new insights on the characters :)

hawkeye · 24 January 2015 · Chapter 55: Vanda Mapaina

People like Meneldil make my skin crawl. Unlike Finrod, who is powerful but in a much more real sense, Meneldil is on a power trip. He is the complete lack of humility and flaunts his authority, rubbing it in the faces of those who he perceives as powerless to resist him. Eärnur really stood out to me in this chapter too. He may not have reached his second yén yet, but he handled Meneldil and his rudeness with a lot of class. It's hard to be respectful and call someone to task at the same time. This is probably one of the most (if not the most) powerful chapter I've read in fiction anywhere. It's hard to say much about it because, at least for me, it almost diminishes what is there. Understanding the oath taking really adds a whole new dimension to the story and I find myself wondering if Glorfindel's oath was similar. I worry as well for Manwen. Despite the Valar being pleased, I can't imagine how it would feel when realisation finally sank in. "Findaráto is no longer a king, as he rightly reminds us, but he still retains the authority of one. That authority was never rescinded, neither by us nor by Eru." This is very interesting, especially coming from the Valar, no less. Finrod might not have a kingdom, but I think his fears of his being less than what he was are not going to be realised. If anything I think he may be headed for greater things, but, as often happens with Eru's will, it might not take the form that he had envisioned. I really loved this chapter. It gave me chills, especially Finrod's, or Another's, admonishment to Laurendil. Thank you for sharing it :)

Author's reply

Hi Hawkeye. You're right that Meneldil is on a power trip. We'll see how he is dealt with eventually. I am sure that Glorfindel's oath to Turgon was very similar, although in a more formal setting than the dining pavilion in Lórien surrounded by Reborn. *grin* We'll see what happens to Manwen when realization sinks in soon enough. And Finrod will always be a king, whether he wears a crown or not, whether he even has a kingdom or not. That is just the nature of who he is at all times. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.

hawkeye · 23 January 2015 · Chapter 54: Language Lessons

*dies* Oh my, this was too funny. I teach English, and I've had this happen several times with students. Not to mention it reminds me of several of my own experiences in Japanese class. Like Finrod with Celeborn and Thingol, I wished the ground would swallow me. Poor Eärnur *pats him on the back* I suppose in comparison to Finrod and even Laurendil, Eärnur is quite young. I can sympathise with his frustrations. Hopefully he takes Finrod's advice and doesn't ask anyone else for a translation *laughs* Even though it's appeared that way, I was absolutely floored when Eärnur said that none of the healers have to learn Sindarin. One would think that the language loving Noldor and Vanyar would at least be happy to have another language to learn. Of course that could just be the linguist in me coming out. This is by far the happiest that I've seen Laurendil. Interestingly, even though they didn't spend the time talking about his fears, I think the Sindarin lesson probably did much more for him. The cliché that laughter is the best medicine does hold some ring of truth. Ultimately it's hard to heal if the spirit is weighed down. On another level, I'm not sure "talking" about his fears in a scheduled time and manner would really help. Forcing someone to talk who doesn't want to is usually counterproductive. For one thing, it requires a lot of trust and that isn't something that happens overnight. So in the end, I think the Sindarin was probably the best medicine. Thank you for a fun read :)

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It was fun coming up with the sentences, though it took me a while to find two words that sounded very similar but had very opposite meanings where one would be considered an insult when used in a particular phrase. It is odd that these Elves who have such a love of language don't care to learn Sindarin, but unfortunately, the Amanians, in their distain of the Exiles and those who never reached Valinor in the first place, have decided that Sindarin is a bastardized form of Quenya and so isn't a true language in its own right, so why learn it? Maybe with Irmo having Eärnur learning it (and I suspect he'll have others learn it as well), this attitude will eventually change. You're right that talking about things like your fears really doesn't work unless you want to talk about them. I think, though, that spending the afternoon teaching Eärnur Sindarin, especially when he makes his gaffe, helps to create a bond of trust between the three so if and when Laurendil wants to talk he can do so in a natural way. Thanks for reviewing, Hawkeye. I'm glad you found this a fun read.

hawkeye · 22 January 2015 · Chapter 53: Vand' Antaina

"Even as you and Glorfindel and Turgon and all the others were trudging across the Helcaraxë, we have been working towards this day when you are standing here in Lórien berating me." If I didn't know better, I think Irmo likes the way that Finrod is unintimidated by him. He's respectfully disrespectful, if there is such a thing *smiles* It reminded me of Glorfindel saying that Námo prefers people who stand up to him. While Finrod isn't being belligerent here, he's comfortable enough with himself that he doesn't have a problem telling everyone what he thinks. And, he seems to have got over worrying about what others think about him. I think having Glorfindel and Sador around have helped a lot. Irmo's explanation for his actions was thought provoking. Finrod did choose to obey, and I suppose that is an illustration of the blessing that comes from obedience. I really enjoyed seeing more of Irmo in this chapter. This is the first time, that I recall, of a Vala admitting to being wrong. They aren't Eru, but as "the powers" it's easy to slip into thinking of them as being perfect. I think what struck me most was how easily he admitted that the Valar were partly at fault for what happened. As a Vala, I think this really illustrates that true humility is power under control. Ultimately, everything is in accordance with Eru's will. The image of Námo and Irmo in mirror colours was fun. I can just see that too :) And Finrod, true to form, doesn't ever do anything half way. They ask him to think about it and he goes right on and makes a decision. Thank you for another fun and thought provoking chapter :)

Author's reply

Hi Hawkeye. Very much later in this story, Nienna and Ingwion have a discussion about the meaning of respect and how the Valar like it when the Elves stand up to them instead of groveling or accepting whatever they say as gospel, so to speak. Of course the key is, as you say, being respectfully disrespectful, something that Fëanor never was; he was just disrespectful toward all. I like your definition of humility as "power under control" rather than the usual subservient view of the word. And, of course, ultimately, all is in accordance to Eru's will. I liked the mirror image of Námo and Irmo, too. And no, Finrod never does anything half way, which is what I like about him. Thanks for reviewing. I'm glad you found it fun as well as thought-provoking.

hawkeye · 21 January 2015 · Chapter 52: Nightmare In Broad Daylight

This was such an interesting chapter. On a side note, I've really enjoyed having Eärnur around again. Despite Finrod's status as apprentice, he seems years ahead of his friend now, which is an interesting contrast to where they were in Findaráto Diaries. Finrod is definitely acting the King in this chapter. The attitude of the journeymen and the master was disturbing. After nearly losing his life, Meneldil has some excuse of being snappy. That would leave anyone shaken. But his further reaction the journeymen seem more like the reactions of people who have been deprived of property than who have just witnessed a life saved. Going back to Finrod's own experiences in Lorien, it almost seems like the caregivers treat their patients rather as possessions than as people. Their attitudes are down right rude, and I would think that after he got over the shock, at the very least Meneldil would be grateful for the rescue. Laurendil was full of his own surprises too. He and Finrod, even though they are only recently reunited, work together pretty seamlessly. I love how Finrod was able to fluidly switch from being apprentice to being king. It will be interesting to see both of them work with Eärnur, and I wonder if, Finrod especially, might be a bit much for him to handle. It isn't a bad thing. Finrod is actually older, and I think that is beginning to show. Working with Mithlas might be just what Laurendil needs. Hopefully Mithlas is able to stay around some friendly people now :) Thanks for a fun read, Fiondil!

Author's reply

Hi Hawkeye. Eärnur will play an important role in this story, though we won't see that for some time, and Eärnur has had almost a century since Finrod was in Lórien as a newly released Reborn to advance in his studies. And he is a journeyman healer, so he's far above Finrod in that regard. And Meneldil and the other journeymen definitely have an attitude problem as we will see later. Laurendil is indeed full of surprises. Whatever his grievances toward Irmo, he is also a kingsman and Finrod's vassal and is acting accordingly, especially as he and Finrod are the only ones who actually know what is happening and what has to be done. We'll see how Mithlas fares now that Finrod and Laurendil have arrived and are aware of him and his situation. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for leaving a review. I appreciate it.

hawkeye · 20 January 2015 · Chapter 51: Return to Lórien

Wait! What happened to Glorfindel!? You can't be meaning to make me wait to find out *cries* Hmm. Where to start with this chapter. I really enjoyed seeing Finrod acting more as his old self. He handled Laurendil well. I'm a bit torn on what to feel about both Laurendil and Finrod in this chapter. I suppose I'll start with Laurendil. He definitely has some baggage, but that is probably true of most who left Aman. It's sad to think of him not being welcomed by his family, and one would that that Rialcar, being one of Arafinwë's advisors, would be more understanding. But I suspect there is probably a lot more going on as well. Laurendel's comment about wanting to escape "them" is very telling. I'm not sure what the story is there, but I suspect that, more than anything, Laurendil's parting with the Valar was less than happy. That is why Irmo really puzzles me in this chapter. So far, I've never seen, or even had the impression, that the Valar ever force themselves on anyone. Yet, it feels like Irmo is being very heavy handed in this chapter. Laurendil clearly wants nothing to do with him, but Irmo seems to have already decided that Laurendil is going to serve him. As a child of Eru, Laurendil doesn't belong to Irmo, so does Irmo even have the right to demand what he is? The sad thing is, I think Irmo probably really could help Laurendil if he would only allow the Vala to help. Laurendil is like most of us in that respect. He needs help, and probably is well aware of that, but for whatever reason is unwilling to accept that. I think too, he probably fears not only to see himself, but also to lose himself. In Endórë, like Finrod, he has a new life and a new identity. He naturally fears the destruction of his sense of self. On the one hand, I'm s bit surprised that Finrod hasn't said anything about Irmo's treatment of Laurendil. He knows, I think, that Irmo probably does have Laurendil's best interest at heart. Regardless, I hope that it doesn't backfire and something bad doesn't happen to Laurendil. I think Manwen will have a lot to say about that. Interestingly, I wonder if Manwen isn't part of the reason for the coolness between Laurendil and his atar. Irmo seems to be in quite the mood in this chapter *grins* Though his methods of taking on new apprentices did rankle a bit. I'm not surprised that Finrod was upset, but ironically I think it was good for Laurendil to not be the only one. Still, it seems like Finrod is being coerced into things. Regardless, Irmo is very devious, especially given what his future plans where. I found myself wanting to laugh and throw something at him at the same time. I wonder if Finrod felt the same way. Oh, is it twenty-four solar years? I think this interaction shows a lot of maturity for Finrod. His responses are by no means childish and I saw glimpses of the former King of Nargothrond throughout this chapter. Interesting that Irmo says that Laurendil is specifically running from him. It looks like Laurendil is going to face his fears whether he wants to or not. He doesn't seem to have the ability to say no to Irmo even when he does want to, though I got the feeling that Finrod might have been able to. But perhaps that is reading too much into things. "I am not as averse to the idea of being here as Laurendil, but I am a prince of the realm and have other duties. I cannot waste my days holding Laurendil’s hand... or anyone else’s for that matter." It does seem like an odd time to be taking Finrod from his atar. So does this mean that Arafinwë is a Manwendur? Thank you for another amazing chapter. There are so many possibilities for where things could go from here. Given that this is Finrod, I doubt that everything will go according to plan :)

Author's reply

Hi Hawkeye. We'll return to Glorfindel eventually. He's not going anywhere. *grin* We need to backtrack a bit and see what is happening with Finrod and later with Sador during this time. Eventually the three plotlines will meet, I promise, at least for a bit. As a Vala, Irmo isn't forcing himself on Laurendil, but he wants him as one of his healers because that is Laurendil's ultimate destiny as it is Finrod's, though his is a special case as we will see shortly. Finrod actually contemplated becoming a healer while he was in Lórien shortly after he was reborn, but the time wasn't right for him to take up such studies. At any rate, we'll see how both Ellyn handle their new roles over the next several chapters. Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate you taking the time to do so.

hawkeye · 14 January 2015 · Chapter 50: Taken

I'm still here! Though, I wasn't too sure after this past week. Whoever said being grown up was easy was clearly deranged ;) Despite the outcome, this was nicely played by Glorfindel. I love his observation about knowing when he is being followed. That is something, I think, few of the elves in Aman have learned. Perhaps it is time that they did? Something I've been noticing lately is how unaware these elves can be. I don't mean surroundings, though that did come in to play here, but just generally unaware. They are complacent. Despite living on the doorstep of Eru's vice-regent in Arda, they have almost completely lost sight of what it means to be one of the Valar. So much so that they actually believe that they can take one of their own to Lord Manwë's front doorstep and expect that he will never know. For them, I think, the Valar have become a "common" occurrence. They have become, like many common things, "safe". They have become like other elves, not like the powers that they are. Not all the elves in Aman are like this. I get the feeling that Ingwë and Valandur wouldn't fall into that trap. It all goes back to that conversation between the Valar about allowing the elves to think they are in control. As obvious as it looks from this perspective, we all fall victim to this mentality. It is the easiest thing in the world to get so used to something, extraordinary though it may be, that it becomes commonplace. Complacency is simple. Vorondil disgusted me in this chapter and I had to consciously remind myself of his age. I wish someone could turn him around, but I am finding that harder and harder to see. Tragically, he could have learned so much from Valandur if he had taken the opportunity when it was offered. As glad as I am that Glorfindel was not killed, I think the elves committing the attack made a grave mistake by not following through. As Manveru reflected, Glorfindel really is not someone to be trifled with. He might be hurt, but he is very much alive, and now he knows who his attackers are. This is yet another case of complacency on the part of these Vanyar. First and foremost, Glorfindel is a warrior and I have no doubt he will not stay down for long. Tulkas' reaction to Vorondil does not bode well for the ellon either. It's not wise to make any of the Valar upset, but getting an expression like that out of that particular Vala would have me running for cover... Not that it would do much good, but still :) Thank you for another wonderful chapter, Fiondil.

Author's reply

Hi Hawkeye. You're very right about the complacency and the unawareness. As they say, familiarity breeds contempt and the Elves of Aman to some extent are contemptuous of the Valar and the Maiar, thinking that they can get away with doing things without being noticed. Perhaps because the Valar don't appear to be doing anything to stop them makes them even more complacent. Vorondil... well, we'll just have to see. Right now he's not a very nice person and we will learn why that is much later in the story. For now, let us just say that the jury is still out where he's concerned. And no, Tulkas' reaction does not bode well for Vorondil or anyone else for that matter. Thanks for taking the time to review. It's very much appreciated.

hawkeye · 5 January 2015 · Chapter 49: Plots and Counterplots

Oh Vorondil. Are you really so... naive? I find it interesting how the different elves behave around the Valar. Ingoldo and Tinwetariel have lived near the Valar for Eru only knows how long. They fear them too, I think, on some level. But despite all that, neither one takes much thought to their actions. Vorondil is more difficult to read. On the one hand, he is a minor, and children can be cruel. It is sad to see someone so young (and an elf) being so hateful, and I have to wonder at his parents not keeping that in check. Interesting that Vorondil's father was in the war. Perhaps more disturbing than anything is I feel like Vorondil is being used. It's pretty obvious during that conversation that Ingoldo and Tinwetariel are leading him on. It's hard to believe that Ingoldo is Ingwë's brother. Hopefully Ingwë is keeping a close eye on him. After all this time, you can't say that he doesn't know how is brother is. At least I hope... Valandur fascinates me and I would love to read more about him. I will have to read In the High King's Secret Service 8D At any rate, I can't wait to see more of him here. At least Ingwë will know where Vorondil and Tulcaner went. And Ingwë. "What he said to the High King, no one ever learned, but within the hour, messengers were being sent to Taniquetil and Valmar under the High King’s seal." This really does show the truth of Ingwion's assessment that his father, while angry, isn't cutting any ties with the Valar. Even assuming that he doesn't know what the Valar are up to, he is astute enough to move now. I would be interested to know how much of a role Valandur played here too. I wonder if he knew that Vorondil lied. As old as Valandur and Ingwë must be, their ability to read people must go far beyond Vorondil's. I actually feel bad for Vorondil, as much as I dislike him. He is obviously deeply conflicted. On the one hand, he is in awe of these renown warriors and the fact that he can't be one of them must feel unbearable. He is very petty though, and his hatred, wherever it comes from, makes him a target. His reaction to Sador's initiation was despicable. Hopefully he doesn't end up like Ingoldo and his wife, but I don't hold out a lot of hope right now. Now what has happened to Glorfindel!? Thanks for another exciting chapter, Fiondil :)

Author's reply

Hi Hawkeye. Vorondil is the equivalent of an 16-year old, so yeah, he can be very naive when it comes to the adult world. We'll learn eventually what motivates his hatred later. The same with Ingoldo. Valandur is a fascinating ellon and I hope you do get to read "In the High King's Secret Service" someday and learn how he came to be where he is now. I have no doubt that he knew that Vorondil was being less than truthful. And Ingwë is first and foremost the High King and however angry he might be, he knows his duty both to his people and to the Valar. Vorondil is deeply conflicted and therein lies the seed of his downfall as we will eventually see. As for what happened to Glorfindel, we will see that in the next chapter. Thanks for reviewing. It's much appreciated.

hawkeye · 3 January 2015 · Chapter 48: Echoes of the Past, Storms of the Present

Another amazing chapter. Whenever I read about Glorfindel's discoveries, I smile. He feels, in some ways, very young here, but I think that is more my perception than anything else. In some ways, society almost conditions us to lose the joy and wonder in the world around us. It sees that as childish. But really, I think the people who preserve that wonder and joy have the right of it. I hope he never grows up in this respect. There were many surprises in this chapter. The revelation that, when summoned by the Elder King, Glorfindel also needs his leave to depart disturbed me as well. It's no different, I suppose, than being summoned by any other great king, but it still felt odd. For Glorfindel, this is where things start to go wrong. His mood changes drastically from here on, and he seems to retreat into himself and to even become more cunning. It's also telling that the others don't pick up on things sooner, something which might not have happened had Finrod been around. Regardless, not taking Ingwion was unwise in Glorfindel's part and, I think, on Ingwion's. Interesting that Glorfindel was "permitted" to go to the Ring of Doom. With all the uncloaked Maiar intervention lately, especially at the meeting with Lord Ulmo and the warning against visiting there by Lord Námo's Maia, it's surprising he was not redirected. The Valar are obviously playing things close for now, but it will be interesting to see how Glorfindel takes all of this. He is, after all, still quite "young" and his ability to process all these things might be a problem. It will also be interesting to see how this plays out from the Valar's end. Manwë came down quite hard on Námo for not getting Glorfindel and Alassiel's permission for his earlier intervention. Here again, the elves have not been consulted, but I feel like there are bigger issues at stake. Ultimately the Valar have everyone's best interest in mind. "Ingwion was forced to acquiesce, not willing or perhaps unable to articulate his concerns in such a way as to make any sense to the others." I can really sympathise with Ingwion here, despite the fact that I disagree with him. As haryon of the Ingaran, as Arafinwë's elder, he could have made things happen. Then again, hindsight is always 20/20. On a side note, there is something about Ingwion that just feels... "young" I guess. Perhaps some of this comes in on your previous writings (which I can't wait to read). Granted, we still haven't seen much of him, but something about him feels lacking given his position. Perhaps I'm overreacting here :) Regardless, Ingwion certainly has plenty of pluck. I'm not sure many people would have had the nerve to march in on Lord Manwë like that. For Ingwion though, I think it's an attempt to regain himself after failing. He probably wishes he hadn't let Glorfindel out of his sight. I cheered when I saw Lord Oromë (even if it was under stressful circumstances). You have such a wonderful way of writing all of the Valar. The fact that Glorfindel is the bait at least gives me hope that the Valar know where he is. Despite Manwë's enigmatic response, I don't think Glorfindel will end up dead. I have a feeling Námo would be extremely displeased with that arrangement, not to mention Finrod ;)

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Hi Hawkeye. Ingwion was reminding Glorfindel that there are protocols that must be observed, so when Manwë summoned him, he was not immediately free to just leave but needed Manwë's permission to do so, just as he would have needed Ingwë's or Arafinwë's permission to leave their presence after they had summoned him. There is really nothing odd about that, but certainly what followed here was, shall we say, planned by others. Glorfindel needed to remain in Valmar for reasons other than his own as we will see. Ingwion has his own issues that stem from the time of the Darkening and if you ever get around to reading "In Darkness Bound" you might begin to understand where he's coming from. He's not really "young" but he certainly is insecure, at least in this instance. At the end of the chapter, he's anything but, and certainly he blames himself for Glorfindel being missing, though he does not realize that higher powers, literally, are at work here. And of course Glorfindel does not end up dead, since we all know he eventually goes back to Middle-earth, but that doesn't mean he won't get hurt along the way. ;) Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it very much.

hawkeye · 18 December 2014 · Chapter 47: The Will of the Valar

I think I would almost have been afraid to eat if I thought another spiral might be forthcoming. Thankfully there is another way out :) The spiral itself is really interesting to me, and I wonder why Lord Námo has it. By his own admission, he does nothing without a reason. Life is like that too. Often times, even seemingly random events do have a reason in the bigger picture. There are a lot of Maiar in this chapter. Seeing so many, even unnamed, really is like a window into another world. They take joy in serving their lords, much like the Children take joy in serving Atar as they should. It's like a picture of how things ought to be. As the designers of living things, I can only imagine what a Vala's garden would be like :) Ulmo is an interesting Vala, especially here. In this chapter, I see him as being more than just Lord of Waters. He, like the other Valar, are concerned with more than just the science and mechanics of their creations. I also thought it was interesting that he offers aid, but stops at direct intervention and I wonder if this has always been their policy, or if they make exceptions based on what they see in the future. "We do not always succeed, but we never stop trying." From my perspective, I think perhaps the elves of Aman do not know or have not acknowledged this. If the Valar are perfect and all-knowing, then it is easy to blame them for whatever happens in Aman or elsewhere. Or perhaps, it is easier to not take responsibility themselves. In a case such as the elves leaving Aman, all parties are usually at fault in some manner. But, that is just conjecture at this point. I really enjoy the bits of elvish you put in to the stories. It really adds a lot, and as a a linguist, makes me extremely happy. Just thought I'd share that :) Have a lovely week!

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Hi Hawkeye. Ulmo has always been a champion of the Eldar even those who rebelled. It was he who lead Tuor to Gondolin as well as inspiring Turgon to build the hidden city and he did the same for Finrod, inspiring him to build Nargothrond. And all the Valar have learned the lesson of direct intervention. They can inspire and plead but they cannot coerce. You're right that some of the Eldar just don't understand what Ulmo is saying here. The Valar are not perfect, never have been, though they continually strive to do Eru's will in all things. Like all created beings, they fall short of the glory, but they never give up, they never succumb to despair and they live in hope that in the end Eru will right all wrongs. I'm glad you enjoy the elvish. I try to be as accurate with it as is possible given what (little) we actually know of the languages as Tolkien has given us. Having a background in linguistics myself, though I am not a professional linguist, has helped. Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I appreciate it very much.

hawkeye · 17 December 2014 · Chapter 46: A Belated Begetting Day

It looks like Finrod has had quite a shock now too. I thought it was interesting that Manwë seemed to be well aware of the conversation even though he was not present. Is that true of all the Valar that they know what the others are doing? In any case, Atar and Manwë appear to be on top of things. Hopefully neither of the elves will be too seriously affected. With all that has been happening lately, I think it is significant that Námo gave Glorfindel "permission" to be angry. So often people look at anger itself as bad, but it is a natural emotion. Like Námo said though, it needs to be properly placed and (I hope) channeled in the right direction. Though they don't show it, I imagine the Valar are equally frustrated at not having any answers to what has been happening. I'm really enjoying reading about Manwë, especially in the context of the other Valar. One think that I've been noticing about him is humility. As the Elder King of Arda, he doesn't insist on always being the centre of attention, in fact a lot of the time he isn't. He seems to be the calm stabilising force a lot of the time. Anyway, I really enjoy him. Námo wasn't too bad at this party *laughs* Still, the Valar really know how to throw one. Glorfindel will remember that for the rest of his life. I admit, I got a little misty eyed at times :) Hopefully Aulë's ring will help. One thing that I find amazing is Ingwion and Indil really do view Glorfindel as family and a "brother" to Finrod. So often, at least in our world, the term family gets thrown around a lot, but when it really comes down to it, everyone knows its not serious. At least in this case, it seems to be different for the elves. Seeing Olórin is always a highlight. But the presence of so many Maiar guards makes me uneasy. Since this is Glorfindel, there must be more adventure on the way :D

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Hi Hawkeye. Well, the Valar (and Maiar) are spiritual beings who normally communicate telepathically, so even as he was seeing to Ingwion, he was keeping an eye on what was happening in Lórien. Manwë is pretty cool. I've grown to like him a lot as I've been writing my stories. He does have great humility, but he's not afraid to exert his authority as Elder King whenever necessary. In my story, Wars of the Valar, where the Valar are generally in spiritual rather than in physical form and I described them via their particular aurae, Manwë is always a steady blue no matter what is going on even though everyone else around him is pretty much having kittens. Having someone remaining calm under all circumstances does help. *grin* And Olórin is always a treat to write. Thanks for reviewing. It's much appreciated.

hawkeye · 17 December 2014 · Chapter 45: Slipping the Leash

"You must be a lot of fun at parties." I knew it! Vala he may be, but Lord Námo has a strange sense of humour. At any rate, that line about made me inhale my tea *coughs* Things felt confusing here, like two worlds colliding and rolling down a hill. I'm sure it probably felt the same for the elves. Having Ulmo be a chief engineer makes a lot of sense. In fact, it reminded me of a couple of friends who studied ocean engineering in University. Ingwion really does show a lot of courage here in what has to be very traumatic circumstances. The part about their bond of friendship was interesting. I really like the idea of the eldar being able to form bonds involving their fëar. That bond of brotherhood alone had a hugely stabilising effect on Glorfindel here. I am intrigued to see where the Valar are headed with this. They almost seem to be playing, and I can only imagine what happens when the powers start having too much fun :) I'd say I feel sorry for Irmo, but, well, it's just too amusing. Nobody seems overly upset, so hopefully everything is fine. I'm wondering if Námo is going to be in trouble with Irmo ;) Hope you're having a fun week!

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Hi Hawkeye. Things are very confusing in this chapter. We see the Valar as the scientists that they are but through the eyes of Elves who are unfamiliar with that part of the Valar's role. And they are not playing. They are honestly intrigued by the differences between the Reborn and the Once-born and they are puzzled by the way Glorfindel is acting when he slips his leash. As Manwë point's out some of the Elves are doing something they shouldn't be able to do and they are trying to discover why. As for Irmo, well, he's used to weird things happening around him anyway. *grin* Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.

hawkeye · 16 December 2014 · Chapter 44: The Spiral Maze

Well Ingwion has at least inherited Ingwë's temper. The Maiar seem to take it in stride though. Having years of experience with the Children and their moods probably helps. In some ways, particularly here, the Maiar remind me a lot of the Valar, caring but seemingly enigmatic in their ways. It almost reminds me of the (often annoying) way that adults treat children. I can sympathise with Ingwion getting frustrated. His long experience with the Valar will, hopefully, prove helpful in this case. The escort was a shock, and I wonder, despite Maranwë's words, if there isn't more to it than that. The Valar obviously expect something to happen. In fact, they seem to be trying to provoke something into happening. From some of your comments earlier about the power of a Maia, having fourteen show up does seem like a lot. I think the escort might be the Valar's way of showing that they all have an interest in the outcome of what they will learn from Ingwion and Glorfindel. "Her voice was as musical as the nightingale and Glorfindel thrilled at the sound of it." This made me pause. The Maiar are closer to Atar than the Eldar. It reminded me a bit of the responses of a mortal when they hear an angel; a being who is both higher and good. The role reversal, albeit brief, between Ingwion and Glorfindel shows again the special relationship that the Reborn have with the Valar. While many of the Eldar look on it with mistrust, it really is a beautiful thing. Ingwion was pretty much cheating by making that an order *laughs* That aside, the spiral was hugely disconcerting. I'm pretty sure just looking at it would give me motion sickness XD Calling Námo "Tiutalero" is beautiful. I think I will call him that from now on, at least when I think of him :) Of all the descriptions of the Valar so far, this is the one I love best. I think one of the things that makes Námo, and all the other Valar, as wonderful as he is is his being both Judge and Consoler. That really is what goodness and Truth are. In the terrifying edge is also the greatest comfort because, in the end, comfort needs strength to have its full effect. Thank you for a lovely chapter!

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Hi Hawkeye. Well, Glorfindel did say that he knew the escort was for him, but sometimes it's best not to read too much into a thing even if the Valar are involved. Tiutalero, "Comforter/Consoler", is Námo's favorite title and the role he most prefers to play. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it.

hawkeye · 15 December 2014 · Chapter 43: Meeting With the Elder King

You have a wonderful way of bringing the Valar down to "earth" instead of ethereal beings, high and remote. I also thought that you did a nice job describing the mansion. The crystals and stones was a nice touch, made even better by the notes about their special properties. I'm sure the Valar intended that they have those when they were designing the world. This meeting with the Valar went much better for Glorfindel, especially assuming that the last time he saw Manwë was during judgement? I can see how he would be so nervous, even though he knows that all debts have been paid. I think it helped that they didn't drag him into a throne room. After Ingwion was not allowed to accompany Glorfindel, I was surprised to see others besides Manwë at the meeting. The part with Ulmo using his beard made me laugh. I suppose tears are water so... That aside, I get the impression that Glorfindel really needed to say what he did. In fact, I would not be surprised that was why Ulmo was there in the first place. Sometimes I wonder if Námo enjoys being dark and mysterious. He does have a sense of humour though *grins* It's a good thing Varda is looking out for Glorfindel. I think all of the Valar find him quite amusing here. I'm not surprised that Glorfindel had a hidden motive for this meeting. After sacrificing so much, everything really, I think he probably feels entitled to know the fate of Turgon and his family. Being denied that knowledge would not only be maddening but also, on some levels, hurtful. I'm not saying that he is entitled, but I can see how he might feel that way. The Valar's methods are a little disturbing here. Because of who they are, they have a unique perspective on time, not being totally bound by it. In that sense, their actions are more than likely justified. Still, even they admit that they don't know what the end will look like. Glorfindel is in a tenuous place right now, both emotionally and psychologically. It would be an easy thing for him to take things other than how they were intended. In that sense, I really do worry for him. Hopefully his previous experience with Lord Námo will help to get him through, as there is no doubt that each of the Valar love the Balrog-Slayer. Now to see what the Valar learn from their examination. That is if they are divulging information ;) Thanks for another fun chapter, Fiondil!

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Hi Hawkeye. I'm glad you like how I portray the Valar and their mansions. Since Tolkien never gives us actual descriptions of either, I did the best I could with what little information he gave us. I'm sure Námo enjoys being dark and mysterious. As he says in another story, "I do everything on purpose". As for the Valar's methods, yes they can seem a bit disturbing, but we will see that there is a reason for what they are doing and why. Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.

hawkeye · 15 December 2014 · Chapter 42: An Appointment in Valmar

So Glorfindel is finally meeting with Lord Manwë though, based on your note at the end, not on Taniquetil. This, being Glorfindel, is bound to go somewhere. Ingwë's response was quite enigmatic and it's hard to tell if he's pleased or not. Interesting that he was so insistent on escorts for the ellith. Being Arafinwë's sister, Ingwion should be at least the same age as she is, so couldn't he be the adult supervision? Then again, Ingwë may feel that he at least needs to keep some sort of a hold on things, especially where Glorfindel is concerned. It was wonderful to see everyone really being good friends to Glorfindel. I think that's what he really needs at this point. "Tell that to Arafinwë and Eärwen." This was really special, and I can't help wondering if Ingwion has been talking to Arafinwë or if he is just able to guess. So was Ingwion 12 solar years? (That would be what, 6 human years or less?) That story made me laugh. Poor elfling. It would be intimidating for anyone to be brought before all the Valar, much less an elfling. It made me wonder if that was the first time the Valar got to meet a screaming elfling up close and personal *giggles* "It is not for thee to decide if thou wilt or no, child. The Elder King of Arda hath summoned thee this night. Come." This gave me shivers. I can't blame Glorfindel for having second thoughts though I will agree with Ingwion, the alternative is worse. Hopefully the Elder King isn't too hard on him :) Now we wait and see. Thanks for writing!

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Hi Hawkeye. Yes, Glorfindel is finally getting his wish, although not quite the way he imagines it. With regards to the ellith, Ingwë is merely expressing the mores of the society where young, unmarried ellith do not venture forth from the home without a suitable chaperone, meaning an older, married elleth. And actually, Ingwion is older than Findis, but he is an ellon and an unmarried one, so as a chaperone he would be considered unsuitable. Ingwë is simply making sure that there is no hint of impropriety. Ingwion would not be quite six, more like 5-1/2 and even a half-year can make a difference in terms of social and emotional development at that age. The whole point of this meeting is to help Glorfindel to recover from what has recently happened to him, so I doubt the Elder King will be anything but kindness itself. Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.

hawkeye · 14 December 2014 · Chapter 41: A Slow Recovery

I can see why Ingwë's temper is so legendary. But from his perspective, I think he feels betrayed. It might be a small thing, but I found the differences between Ingwë's response to Glorfindels toy and Ingwion's response really interesting. Ultimately, I think it really is their differences in age, and perhaps experience. I'm assuming that Ingwion did not wake up early and have an experience like Glorfindel and his atar. Regardless, Ingwë doesn't see the toy as a sign of weakness. He knows the shock Glorfindel has had and takes it for what it is. How much of that is his own deduction or as a result of pondering Lord Námo's words after he rescued Glorfindel from the healers is up for debate. It's telling that Ingwë never acknowledged Námo's presence. This also speaks to his relationship with the Valar. He isn't servile by any means, and doesn't mind reminding them of it. He certainly has plenty of courage, if nothing else *laughs* Ingwion really stood out in this chapter. He reminds me a lot of Finrod, but perhaps stronger in some ways. Perhaps older is, again, more appropriate here. In other ways though, I think that Finrod is able to be to Glorfindel what Ingwion can never be simply because Finrod was once a king himself and lived in Endórë. Both will be good for Glorfindel in the end, I think, though a part of me wonders if Glorfindel might not be better off with Finrod at the moment. Ingwion shows himself much like Ingwë when he goes to talk to the Valar himself. He loves and respects his atar, but is both able and strong enough to act when he needs to (at least he does here). He also shows that he has a healthy relationship with them on his own, especially when he almost calls Lord Námo on the carpet. I think Námo enjoys it when the Eldar stand up to him. So Ingwë is more angry with himself and his own helplessness. I was wondering if that was not part of his problem. Shrewd to his son to pick up on that. "Except one of the palace cats decided to have her kittens underneath the High King’s throne." I want to see Ingwë's face for this one. Does this mean court is postponed until the kitties can be moved? Thank you for another lovely chapter. I'm sorry my reviews have been rambling so much lately. You give me so much to think on that I can't possibly review it all. Hope you're having a wonderful day :)

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Hi Hawkeye. Ingwë is a father, unlike Ingwion, and I think he sees Glorfindel as another son, so his responses to him will certainly be different from those of Ingwion, who sees him as a brother. At the same time, Ingwion is able to take matters in his own hands when he goes to the Valar for help. And as he points out, his father may be angry at the Valar but he hasn't forbidden any of his subjects from dealing with them and that includes Ingwion. I'm sure Ingwë's expression (and everyone else's) was priceless when he saw the momma cat with her kits under the throne. And your reviews have been just fine. Thanks for taking the time to leave them. I appreciate it.

hawkeye · 12 December 2014 · Chapter 40: Damage Assessment

I was wondering if Ingwë had a temper somewhere. Now that the initial shock is over I think he may feel a need to reestablish himself, or at least his control. He hasn't lost control, but I think he felt vulnerable. For someone who is used to being in charge, that must have been a truly terrifying experience. What really disturbed me was Glorfindel's treatment (or lack thereof) at the hands of the "healers." As a "healer" myself, the rule is first and foremost "do no harm." Yet the healers do just that. Not only do they fail to treat Glorfindel appropriately, they do him extensive emotional harm. As much as I sympathise with Ingwë, I'm glad Lord Námo stepped in when he did. Hopefully the healers and Ingwë will be more careful in the future. Given Ingwion's initial reaction, I was afraid we might be headed back to square one with everything. I so hope, for both Glorfindel's and Ingwion's sakes, that they can be brothers in the future. Glorfindel especially needs the friendship, and I think Glorfindel could probably teach Ingwion quite a bit as well. I also really liked Námo's reminder of Glorfindel's past. Sometimes it is easy to forget :) Thank you for a wonderful chapter. :)

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Hi Hawkeye. Oh, yes, Ingwë has a temper. Indeed he is known for it because it happens so rarely, but when it does, everyone ducks and takes cover. *grin* The healers were absolutely clueless about dealing with a Reborn, and one that had suffered a traumatic psychic shock. Luckily, Námo stepped in. Ingwion and Glorfindel are destined to be gwedyr or otornor, as we will see. Thanks for reviewing. It's appreciated.

hawkeye · 10 December 2014 · Chapter 39: Rescue Mission Into the Past

Even as well as he knows Lord Manwë it must have been a bit awkward (at the very least) waking up like that. Poor ellon. I was a bit surprised at first, seeing the Valar in a more technical? context. The more I think about it, the more it does make perfect sense. Still, it will take a little getting used to. It does add a lot to the story though. Ingwë has taken this whole thing surprisingly well, even though this must all be freakishly foreign to him. Manveru's mistake really brings home the point that the Valar and Maiar, for all their power, are not omniscient. I think this is an important point because it really highlights both Atar's place and his presence. Glorfindel, though he did over react a bit (who can blame him?), responded appropriately by refusing to go to the mountain. From his perspective, he had been told by the Valar themselves not to go on the mountain. It would hardly seem appropriate for him to take a Maia's word for it, however well meaning the Maia might be. Atar is a work again here, looking after his children in their flight. As a warrior, again, I think Glorfindel acted appropriately in seeking to protect the king. Unfortunately, also again, his actions are misplaced. This is the second time Glorfindel has "been" to Gondolin in a short time. It will be interesting to see how this affects his maturing. Neither Glorfindel nor Ingwë were exactly punished, but I thought it interesting that Manwë went out of his way to make sure that Ingwë was not in trouble where Námo didn't do the same for Glorfindel. Perhaps this has to do with the age difference between them. Glorfindel did act out more than Ingwë did, but surely he was running to Another no less than Ingwë, yet the response was quite different in his case. My guess is that, as a reborn, Glorfindel is quite unpredictable, even to the Valar themselves. Hopefully the experience of Love Imperishable had a restoring and healing affect on Glorfindel's fëa. I found it interesting that even the Maiar, who are closer to Atar, were awed by what they witnessed. I really enjoyed this chapter. Thank you for sharing :)

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Hi Hawkeye. The Valar are first and foremost scientists. They would have to be in order to bring the universe into existence with all its laws of physics and such and I try to show this here. Ingwë is not in a happy place for sure and he is seeing a side of the Valar he probably hasn't really seen before. And of course Glorfindel would take the prohibition too literally instead of checking to see if it was still in effect (as it wasn't in this case). Námo's treatment of him when he finally caught up with the ellon is different from the way Manwë treated Ingwë, but the relationship is different and a Reborn's unpredictability, especially when that Reborn is Glorfindel, does play a factor. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for taking the time to let me know. I appreciate it.