Second Mum by Larner

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shirebound · 20 May 2007 · Chapter 7: Gone to Be the Young Master

What a lovely chapter. I was especially delighted with the conversation Esme overheard, and that you gave us the experience of Frodo's leaving Buckland from the point of view of those who knew him best. I'm so happy he's finally happy.

Author's reply

Tolkien clearly indicated Maggot and Bombadil were acquainted, and so I figured that they must meet to talk on occasion, probably when Maggot was on the Buckland side of the river to do business. And if Radagast might have been visiting the Eldest during one of his infrequent visits west of the mountains, might he not also take advantage of the chance to meet a second wizard? Those who loved Frodo in Brandy Hall must have regretted him leaving, but must also have realized that in this case it was for the best. And I think they would have rejoiced to see Frodo's basic cheerful nature restored, and to see him fully happy once more.

French Pony · 19 May 2007 · Chapter 6: The Freeze and the Thaw

Good for Bilbo and Company for finally giving Menegilda what for! A change of scene is just what Frodo needed.

Author's reply

Oh, indeed--Frodo couldn't have endured without losing part of himself, I suspect.

French Pony · 19 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

Dang, woman! You update faster than I can read, especially at the end of the quarter. I like all the little glimpses of everyday Hobbit life that you get in this chapter. Nothing earth-shattering, but lots of wonderful little character studies, and all the details about ribbons and schoolrooms and foaling, and the Free Fair, and all . . . it's the sort of chapter that you just want to look at, for a long long time. I also liked the little bit at the beginning about how attached to Bag End Bilbo was. It really makes you realize what a wrench it was for him to decide to pack up and leave the Shire.

Author's reply

Am trying to update every two days. Had hoped to have this finished by Mothers Day, but it was not to be. I like to make the world of Middle Earth realistic, and admit I've been watching the BBC/Masterpiece Theater version of "Emma" and was inspired for the scene with the ribbons by that. But that's the world of the Shire as I've imagined it and as Tolkien himself appears to have seen it, the inhabitants almost straight out of nineteenth century English rural society. I'm honored you appreciate the character studies, and hope you enjoyed todays short in "Moments in Time" as well. It was fun to write. And I think that Bilbo must have been deeply attached to his own home. But when the time went I suspect he went without looking back--mostly.

Andrea · 19 May 2007 · Chapter 6: The Freeze and the Thaw

Wow! That chapter was overwhelming! First of all, the storm and snow and flood! Menegilda was apparently so occupied that she could not look after Frodo, otherwise she would have forbidden him to go with the others. And then Frodo saves Gomez' life! Not any hobbit, but Gomez, his "personal enemy", without hesitation! That's our Frodo! After that Gilda is watching him closer than ever. From your description of him, I can understand that Bilbo and the healers called it "fading". Menegilda may have had dreams of the future, but as Galadriel said, the future can still be changed. And so Bilbo finally decided to "claim" his boy. I loved Bilbo's description about how Frodo's Light affected all those around him! And finally Frodo accepts. “No!” Merry said. “He can’t go!” “He has to go, Merry.” “But he’s my Frodo!” “No, Merry, he has to be his own Frodo before he can be anyone else’s.” Well said, Esme! He has to be his own Frodo! He has to find himself! That's what is most important!

Author's reply

The storm and its resulting flooding is patterned on one that affected our region some years ago, with some aspects of a second storm that downed thousands of trees just in the small city we lived in at the time. Gomez had to have good reason to give over his antagonism against Frodo; and I don't think that Frodo would ever care who it was who needed help--he'd just plunge in and do what he could. Apparently the Elven description of the final depression leading to death after deep personal loss, the gradual letting-go of their feär, was referred to as "fading," and the Fallohide Hobbits, from whom the Tooks and Bagginses were descended (and to a lesser extent the Oldbuck/Brandybucks, who had a fair amount of Stoor to them) were associated with the Elves of the upper Anduin valley. That this term would pass into usage amongst Hobbits of the Shire just seemed logical, particularly in the case of those who sank into melancholy and depression as Frodo was doing. That Menegilda might have dreamed truly, but that this was something that must be endured that Frodo would choose to go to the Undying Lands in the end seems logical; and as Galadriel indicated, some situations aren't even likely to occur unless you purposely turn out of your way to try to forestall them, as it proved Menegilda was doing. I've been trying to show the situation I've described briefly in my other stories as it realistically might have happened. And we do have to own ourselves before we can give ourselves properly to others. So glad you appreciate it.

Inkling · 19 May 2007 · Chapter 1: For the Love of a Child

Argh, I can’t start another story of yours when I’ve still got 70-odd chapters of Sacrifice left to go! But I’m a sucker for Esmeralda and Frodo, having always felt they had a special bond…so couldn’t help taking a peek! The little “snapshots” of Frodo’s childhood make an interesting effect. Trust Baby Frodo even to cry attractively! And now Esme truly is his second mum: “Never again should you suffer.” Sigh…every mother’s futile vow…

Author's reply

Oh, you'll make it through, Inkling--I have trust in you! This is my Mothers Day gift to many I've come to love who've been mothers and second mothers, as I was for so long. Frodo's cry is patterned on my grandson's cry for the first few days of his life. I swear, I was wondering who had brought a small cat into the hospital room the first time he made it. And of course Frodo would have such a special cry. Yes, every mother desires that for her child; and none of us can deliver on that promise.

harrowcat · 19 May 2007 · Chapter 6: The Freeze and the Thaw

I have been trying very hard to be accepting of Menegilda and then you turn my feelings about her around when you mention her prophetic dreams. Trouble with prophecy is 'you know neither the day nor the hour' and in trying to avoid you can cause more than trouble! My heart was bleeding for our Lad in his lassitude and depression. (Have been there when it is external circumstances that you have no control over that are causing the stress and depression!) About time, if not indeed well overdue, for this family conference/discussion/confrontation/'thing'. I like the way that not everything happens at the 'best' time in your tale. It is much more realistic. Esme knows that he has to go but such an abrupt move away is very hard on the whole family. I think that any Mum who has waved her son/daughter off to University may be able to echo this. Life can be cruel sometimes. York in the Spring sunshine was great! I was sad to have only a couple of hours for sight-seeing. Walked on the wall and looked at the outside of the Minster. But hey are now charging £5 just to go in and £10 if you want to look at the Undercroft etc! I didn't have time and I also have an objection to being kept out of a Church by money but I can understand it. So my friend and I went to the Shrine of Margaret Clitheroe instead. An ordinary houswife who was pressed to death for harbouring Catholic Priests in her house on the Shambles! A peaceful moment in a busy day. Listened to LOTR all the way back on the train.

Author's reply

One of the truest things said by Galadriel as she invites Frodo and Sam to look into her mirror is that it is a poor guide for action--that it shows what is, what was, what will be, AND what might come to pass ONLY if one turns out of ones path to attempt to forestall it. And Menegilda, in seeking to spare Frodo heart failure in the future only, through enforced inactivity and helping bring on depression in Frodo, serves to cause the earliest symptoms of the condition herself. We aren't guaranteed tomorrow, which is why we who are Christians were commanded by our Lord to live our fullest today. Aragorn, a mortal raised by the one group of Elves in Middle Earth who have had time and experience with mortals to appreciate just how ephemeral mortal life can be, has been raised to appreciate this truth for himself, and to grasp to him and celebrate those joys that are granted to him as they are presented. Bilbo seeks to do the same for Frodo, although his wisdom is more native and due to his own experience. "He who would save his life shall lose it, and he who would offer up his life for my sake shall find it." The paradox of mortality stated simply. It's not the length of our lives that matter, but the quality we give to them and receive from them. That's what we offer back. For years Bilbo did only what was expected of him, and he lived a "safe" life, enjoying adventure vicariously through his books. Now that he has faced life and real adventure, he would not see Frodo spared the joy of living in the moment simply because Menegilda would seek to preserve him, knowing that things that are preserved retain the same seeming indefinitely do so because they have died. Have stood on the square to look at the site of Margaret Clitheroe's death. Again, in seeking to turn away evil far more evil was worked. In West Memphis, Arkansas, the region sought to scrub away an evil by imagining an even worse one and choosing a scapegoat, sacrificing two more lives in order to make certain their chosen scapegoat suffered for what it's most likely he had nothing to do with. This past week at last hope is come that that terrible injustice will be made right for its three victims, who have lost fourteen years so far, and they wait patiently for the next round of court hearings that will decide their fate. Meanwhile someone else got away with a horrible crime. Pray for Jessie, Jason, and Damien, please, and for the memory of Chris, Steve, and Michael. And let us rejoice in the day God has given us.

Dreamflower · 18 May 2007 · Chapter 6: The Freeze and the Thaw

Finally! At last, Bilbo's asserted himself, and Menegilda's been brought to see how wrong she is! But I feel for Sara and Esme and Merry (and the other Brandybucks). They will miss their Frodo so much. *sigh*

Author's reply

Yes, at last what needs to be done is being done, and at last all are in agreement. And they will miss Frodo indeed, and particularly Merry, who does get his own little brother/cousin to share with Frodo. But Bilbo had to be frightened for Frodo's health and safety to intervene at last. None too soon, of course.

elanor winterflowers · 18 May 2007 · Chapter 6: The Freeze and the Thaw

Ah, at last! Good for Bilbo, and the healers, too! Wonderful narrative of the storms and the troubles following in Buckland. I had a very real sense of how they managed, and what it would have felt like to be there. Very tough in the fiber, indeed, are hobbits! I loved the little moment when Merilinde meet Frodo in the hall. He must have been so attractive--it always makes me sigh to think he chose to be a bachelor. But at least he got to live with Bilbo! Oh, Merry must have been furious! Pippin came along at just the right time, didn't he?

Author's reply

Yes, at last they've asserted themselves, and to Frodo's benefit. The way the storm runs is based on two storms that hit this region, both in the fall, the second one bringing warm rain after two snowfalls as is described here. The whole area knew freak floods; and when soil becomes too saturated trees are more easily toppled by heavy winds. The idea of the area below Brand Hall forming a flood plain I described in "Floods and Glamours," and is based on the flood plain of the Mersey River outside Manchester, England, there in Sale where friends have lived and watched the river's behavior for half a century or better. And of course Hobbits are tough in the fiber--that's as Tolkien himself describes them, after all! Merilinde may admire Frodo, but she and Brendi are already an item, as described in "The Ties of Family" and "The Acceptable Sacrifice." And I do believe the Ring Itself played a strong part in Frodo and Bilbo remaining bachelors. And indeed, Pippin came along just exactly at the right time for Merry. You're right there! Heh!

Lily · 18 May 2007 · Chapter 6: The Freeze and the Thaw

Finally Menegilda understood that there needs to be a change - and I'm glad Bilbo insisted upon it. Things will go up for Frodo from now on.

Author's reply

Yes, Menegilda understands, and even accepts. Bilbo was right to insist. No question--Frodo will know at least eleven years of upswing now. Thanks so for the comments.

shirebound · 18 May 2007 · Chapter 6: The Freeze and the Thaw

Frodo rose, moved suddenly forward, and then was folding her in his arms, and she realized he was weeping--weeping tears of happiness. Yay! Bless that old hobbit. :)

Author's reply

Yes, definitely not a moment too soon. And at last Menegilda herself has accepted she's gone too far, and that Frodo needs this, as does Esme. As for blessing the old Hobbit--I have, countless times. Thanks so for the comments, Shirebound.

Andrea · 17 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

Well, I think it's high time for Bilbo to take Frodo with him to Bag End! "He needs to get out of here, Bilbo Baggins--without meaning to, Gilda will end up devouring him." Tumnus is definitely right! I enjoyed Frodo's dancing with all those pretty lasses - and their reactions, especially those of Pearl and Narcissa! This is the beginning of it all! That prank with glueing the pages of Frodo's precious book together was really mean! But he did pay it back. I can't recall the prank with the mice and rats, so it would be very nice of you if you could show me the way. It was somewhere in "Reconciliation", wasn't it? Last but not least, you said in your answer to harrowcat that farmer Maggot's name "Ellis" was a tribute to E. Pargeter (aka Ellis Peters)? Really? That is great, because I love reading Brother Cadfael stories :)

Author's reply

Yes, this is the beginning of several relationships that led nowhere, I fear--or at least not on Frodo's side of the equation. I, of course, love the idea of Frodo as a dancer, and would imagine even as a youngster he was inspiring others. And it's indeed coming near time to get Frodo out of there--you and Tumnus have the right of it. But there's one last disagreement left to face, and a crisis to surmount. Yes, the pranks of glued book and the retaliation of the rats and mice was first mentioned in "Reconciliation" where Brendi is letting Bard know how devious Frodo could be at times. As for your deduction as to the origin of "Ellis"--you're completely right, of course. Tumnus for Lewis, Albus Sweetwater for Rowling, Jonkenton at Aunt Lilac's place for Merrit, Gwynhumara and Artos for Sutcliff--I do like to include my tributes to many of my favorite authors in my stories.

elanor winterflowers · 17 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

Oh, my! Bilbo needs to make his move soon, I think. Wonderful characterizations here: Bilbo, the various gossiping ladies, the very interesting Brendi, and of course Frodo himself, growing up and inward and chafing as much at his restrictions as at his freedoms, it would seem, and also at himself. Esme remains a steady, watchful presence and the social structures you have created for the Hall and for the Shire continue to dazzle me! There is much of a fascinating nature here!

Author's reply

Brendi's mentioned glancingly from my first story, "For Eyes to See as Can," although he doesn't garner a name or true identity other than "Frodo's Brandybuck Lawyer" until "The Choice of Healing." And as my stories continue he gains more and more presence. He truly comes into his own in "The Ties of Family," which focuses mostly on Narcissa Boffin and the second family of Frodo's Uncle Dudo, and is a staple once Frodo returns from Gondor in "The Acceptable Sacrifice" and a few other stories. I love the observation that Frodo's chafing as much at his restrictions as at his freedoms--a lovely choice of wording as well as so true; and he's finding out what his limitations are. Considering how much you've brought Merry's family to life, I am honored at your appreciation of the structure of the Hall as I've written it. Thank you SO much! One listmember on the HASA list characterized all original characters as "Mary Sues" of a sort; I disagree completely. Original characters ought to add to the richness of Middle Earth, each showing his or her own strengths and weaknesses; this is certainly what I've sought to do with Brendi, Ruvemir, Isumbard, Bartolo, Alvric, Tribbals Broadloam, An'Sohrabi, and the other characters I've added to Arda, and those like Merry's little Daisy and Theo and Tansy and Jamy you've brought to life. Am so very glad you find mine as delightful as I've found yours, and that we both delight to speculate on the society that spawned the likes of Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Otho, Lobelia, and Lotho.

shirebound · 17 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

Oh my, I can't wait for Bilbo to get Frodo out of Buckland, and to Hobbiton where he belongs... and will thrive.

Author's reply

Yes, the time is coming when Frodo indeed needs to be out of here. He's lost the one teacher that had any hope of challenging him there in Buckland, and he needs the freedom to do and become all that he can in the time given him.

Linda Hoyland · 17 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

I hope Bilbo can soon help poor Frodo.

Author's reply

It's coming, Linda. But there's no question Frodo's about due for a change of scene.

harrowcat · 17 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

I love it that Farmer Maggot actually HAS as first name! Have you found it somewhere or is it invented? I have always loved Tumnus. I would love to see a bit more of him. And so Frodo has become aware of Pearl has he!! *g* And she has noticed him too. Poor Narcissa! The more I read of this the more I want to get hold of Gilda with both hands! Bilbo will have to stand in line for his battle! Although I do understand why she is as she is! Oh, I can think of one or two people that Dirna reminds me of -- worse luck. She is delightfully awful but she is serving a good purpose. It is good to hear that reading and writing was taught to all at the Hall, very enlightened. I am glad that there are good-hearted and right-seeing people about to counter the likes of Dirna and Sackvilles etc. I do love it when you slip in links to other bits of the tale like Frodo's arm going to sleep becase Merry lays on it and the way you have sprinkled dragonflies around in in previous chapters. I grieve for the book. That is truly a nasty prank! But a grand payback! And all the clues there for how it was done - Great stuff. And pigs better than children? Poor hobbit - teaching is not a vocation for everyone after all! I have printed this out and now caught up with all the chapters properly. There are so many threads going on. I like it how the Ring is a presence even there and then. The bit that caught at my heart most was the thought that there was something that Bilbo couldn't contemplate, even for HIS lad. A wise person knows his limitations. BTW - Be jealous! I'm off up to a meeting in York on Friday, if the trains cooperate and have scheduled the return train late enough to do a little sight-seeing! Looking forward to being let off the work leash myself if only for a day!

Author's reply

I decided to settle one on him, and this is my own little tribute to E. Pargeter. Heh! Yes, Frodo's being noticed and beginning to notice in return, although nothing serious at this time. I'd decided early on that those who worked at the Hall or the Great Smial could count on getting at least a rudimentary education out of it, and that such a beginning would often lead to an individual finding he could now keep books well enough to run a business properly and so on. And I've met my share of Dirna's in my life. It's always a joy to tie this story into others, and I had to revisit the vengeance on Boridoc at some time--I think the first time it was mentioned was in "Reconciliation" when Brendi was telling Bard what Frodo had been like as Esme and Sara's ward. And am so glad you appreciated the dragonflies, of course. There have to be a few flying insects in my stories, you know! Heh! Teaching isn't always easy, I agree. A former colleague once said something like this to me when I asked how raising Scottish Highlander cattle compared to teaching. And Bilbo knows too well where trying to get along with Gilda would be likely to lead. As for being jealous, I AM!!! I wanna go, too! I wanna go, too! If you have time, visit the Jorvik Experience, and maybe go through the Undercroft in York Minster. And if you visit the Roman era museum there in the Minster Gardens, tell me if the child's shoe is still on exhibition. I LOVE that shoe! And walk the walls for me, if you can. Last time I was there I spent SO much money going through bookshops. Bookshops are my downfall! But I found so many Terry Pratchett books.

Kitty · 17 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

Menegilda and Bilbo disagreeing about something, and Frodo in particular, that would have been a sight to behold! A pity Bilbo doesn’t want to show us this spectacle ;-( Just thinking – if Gilda would have seen Frodo after the Quest and been allowed to have him in her house, he’d probably not been allowed to even scratch his nose himself. It doesn’t bear thinking. Was so glad Bilbo showed up and encouraged Frodo. Good old Bilbo! It is truly about time Bilbo steps in and takes Frodo to Bag End. The poor lad! Really, I don’t know how he is able to bear Gilda – I’d scratch her eyes out, I suppose. Don’t have Frodo’s patience. Oh, Gomez’ mother is a Sackville? How interesting. And it is explaining a lot - her constant complaining and talking nasty about everyone as much as the behaviour of her son. Was just thinking that Marguerite would get along very well with Lobelia when the other Hobbitess said exactly this *grin* Nice reminder of the prank with the rats and mices. Hmmm – Esme probably suspects something? But I am sure she won’t tell.

Author's reply

There are some major disagreements coming up, but they'll realize that even Gilda can realize that there are limits to what she should do. As for how Gilda would have treated Frodo post-quest--I fear you are all too right. We have about two years before Bilbo chooses to take Frodo, so there is still time for conflict still. Frodo is trying to be patient, but even he has his limits. Yes, great minds think alike, and you find yourself agreeing with Marguerite's unnamed companion. She does sound a reasonable type, at least. I had to look again at Boridoc and the rats and mice--glad you remembered it from "Reconciliation." Yes, I do believe Esme suspects, but as with the whitewash and the chicken feathers I think she'll let it stand as it is. Thanks so much for the comments, Kitty.

Dreamflower · 16 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

Well, the time soon will arrive when Bilbo will be taking that hand in Frodo's future that all of them wish--and not at the Hall where he would clash with Menegilda, either! I love the way every time someone tries to run Frodo down, there's someone else to stick up for him! I have to say I was slightly taken aback at the chapter title. As you know that's the "title" I use in my fics for the Master's heir! LOL! But it's very appropriate for Frodo in these circumstances! I look forward to the fireworks when Bilbo finally stakes his claim!

Author's reply

I hadn't even thought of your use of the term, Dreamflower. But it's definitely a proper one, of course. Right now I wanted to highlight the disparity between being expected to be a child of Brandy Hall and what he might end up being, which was why I chose it. And I think that there would be a division between Frodo's supporters and detractors, and that the detractors might very well have ideas as to how remaining in the Hall could be detrimental to the lad. As for the anticipated fireworks--I think there may be a few less than one might anticipate. This chapter almost ended up twice its current length until I realized I actually had two chapters rather than one super-long one. Heh!

Linda Hoyland · 16 May 2007 · Chapter 4: The Rascal of Buckland

Maybe the other boys will see Frodo as less of "a mam's lad " now.Children can be so cruel to anyone a bit different.

Author's reply

Oh, don't I know it, Linda. I was exceptionally short and bookish as a child and was a frequent target for bullies; and many of my students and clients have experienced the same phenomenon.

Queen Galadriel · 13 May 2007 · Chapter 4: The Rascal of Buckland

LOL! I love Frodo's pranks! Just great! Poor boy has to have *some* kind of outlet, after all. It's good to see him being allowed to help more around the Hall, and I don't blame him at all for taking his freedom too far. Can I venture so far as to assume that the glue on Lalia's chair was his idea--if not his doing? Ha! :) I would so love to have a nice little chat with Menegilda. She's being so ridiculous! It's so obvious that isn't her reason for keeping Frodo away from the ponies. Did her gaffer really die in that way, I have to wonder? If so, it was probably either because he didn't know what he was doing or for some other reason. Her true ideas about Frodo and ponies are the opposite of reason. Horses and ponies are wonderful. I know I enjoyed riding while I did it (till I found out I was allergic to horses) and I love to hear a friend of mine tell the stories of the people she does riding therapy with. I agree with everyone else about Maggot. This is one of the best accounts of this event I've ever read. But oh, that was foolish--really foolish of Frodo, considering the--delicate situation with his aunt. My rule number one for dealing with people like that: DON'T EVER, EVER, EVER ENCOURAGE THEM, whether that means not running wild or simply not telling them certain things (in Frodo's case, things like riding the bull). He didn't exactly tell her, but still...I so hope he hasn't undone all that has been accomplished where she's concerned. *sighs* Poor kid. God bless, Galadriel P.S. I was thinking after I read and reviewed last night, my quick judgment on Timono wasn't really fair. No, I don't like him or pity him any more than I did, but as for his "you have to feel sorry for me" junk, I have no room to talk, because I went through a big phase of that when I was about eight. At least he had a logical reason. My reason for feeling sorry for myself was I wanted a twin. Out of all the crazy things I might have picked, I had to pick something that ridiculous! LOL

Author's reply

Yes, once Frodo's learned how to play a prank and figure out how to distract others he'd do it up right, I think, and take it to rather interesting extremes--until as must happen he got caught. As for the glue on Lalia's chair, he's not telling, and neither am I! (Snort!) The full story of Menegilda's gaffer and the pony is still to be revealed, at which time I hope her fears may be a bit more understandable. No one else had told had told Gilda about the rides on the bull, which is a nod to a story here about how Frodo earned the title "The Terror of Buckland": she's just learning about it from others and is most upset by it, I fear. As for Timono and "You have to feel sorry for me"--I went through my personal bout of that also at age eight, when I felt everyone should indulge me first because my father had died (when I was a baby, so I grew up with a perfectly serviceable stepdad who'd been there for us as long as I could remember, but he wasn't MY father--my, I was an ungrateful child!), and because we'd moved from a city neighborhood where I was within minutes of many classmates to a new home on the remains of a farm in the country where the only two kids my age within walking distance lived a half mile in each direction, and I couldn't stand the one and didn't meet the other until we went to junior high together as we went to different grade schools. So, I can partly appreciate Timono's situation at the same time I find I, too, don't particularly like him.

Andrea · 13 May 2007 · Chapter 4: The Rascal of Buckland

Farmer Maggot gave a final nod. “All right. And when you’re certain as he’ll understand, you can tell him I really admire him. He’s right smart, he is.” Oh Larner, I really like your farmer Maggot. He has a lot of common sense and he saw at once that Frodo's answers were honest. So, Stripe only wanted to play, but Frodo didn't realise it and fled? That sounds familiar! The same thing happened to me when I was 9 or 10 years old. No, I did not steal mushrooms ;-) The dog (a German shepherd) came running towards me, and I thought it would attack me. So I fled and the dog followed. It seemed an eternity until someone was able to stop the dog and to assure me that it only wanted to play. Last but not least, I'm right glad that Frodo finally was allowed to do (nearly) all things the other lads did. And he earned himself a title! "The rascal of Buckland" - I like that title much more than "The terror of Buckland" which is slightly exaggerated ;-)

Author's reply

I'm trying to match the younger Farmer Maggot to the one who welcomed Frodo Baggins into his home once he realized the younger Hobbit was being pursued by the Black Rider and whose wife presented that dish of mushrooms contained in the basket Frodo carried from there to Crickhollow. He obviously held a degree of respect for the one who used to raid his mushroom patch, after all; it was obvious to me that Frodo had totally misjudged the farmer, particularly as Pippin obviously knew and deeply respected him and had visited his place alongside Merry, not to mention Bombadil's estimation of the fellow stated later. Few who haven't had much experience with dogs are able to tell much about the animals' true moods. My niece constantly misread the true state of mind of our dogs, and as a result her daughter has developed an aversion to them that is quite exaggeratedly silly. For Frodo to believe that the dog chasing him meant the dog intended to do him harm when in reality it only wanted to play seemed very likely. And in the minds of some there's not a good deal of difference between being accounted a rascal or a terror. So glad you appreciate how I've tried to picture Maggot.

Bodkin · 13 May 2007 · Chapter 4: The Rascal of Buckland

Naughty Frodo! He's being too clever for his own good, here. No wonder he ended up with a dramatic reputation for mischief. It's surprising, really, that he got away with it for as long as he did. And getting caught in the end was inevitable.

Author's reply

Oh, yes, too clever by half; and of course he'd get caught in the end. But I bet it was great fun while it lasted.

Bodkin · 13 May 2007 · Chapter 3: Fifteenth Summer

Nasty bully boys - and as long as there is a culture that says you can't tell and that getting help is a weakness, the bully boys will always have the edge. Because they don't care about fair, and they don't care about sensitivity - and it'll take more than one person standing up to them to stop them. Bilbo is a sharp hobbit - reads the situation pretty well. Esme can't really face Gilda down - she doesn't have the power. But a plot against Gomez's ideas of masculinity. That sounds good. As does standing up to Gilda and getting Frodo away for a while. Although making Timono's acquaintance is to nobody's advantage! And is Bartolo's resentment all down to Frodo not fancying his sister? (Who'd be a teenager? Of any race!)

Author's reply

I dealt with my share of bullies when I was a child, from the kid who took my balls in elementary school to the girl who would lay in wait for me on my way home from the store with my wax coke bottles filled with juice and steal them from me and the kid who would harass me while I was out selling raffle tickets from school. And I felt that Frodo would recognize at the time the only way to handle the situation was to face such as Gomez down himself, and then take advantage of Bilbo's hints to let Gomez be caught looking as if he were caught in his own pranks backfired. No, there's a bit more to Bartolo's resentment than just Frodo failing to recognize Lavinia's interest; had Frodo actually noted it and responded, it's likely Bartolo would have felt the same amount of resentment. With the likes of young Bartolo Bracegirdle responding to such as Frodo Baggins there's no pleasing them, I fear. Yes, adolescence can be so uncomfortable to live through! Heh!

Kitty · 13 May 2007 · Chapter 4: The Rascal of Buckland

It was about time Sara and Esme stood up to Gilda on Frodo’s behalf. She’d coddle him to death, if she’d be allowed to continue that. But I certainly don’t agree with Gilda that he isn’t to go to the ponies. For ponies are wonderful animals and certainly not more dangerous than other beasts, and I think her gaffer did something wrong if he was killed there *glares at Gilda* And besides, how many people are having to do with ponies, and how many of them are hurt? Truly, she ought to be a bit more realistic, even if I can understand her fear. But accidents happen – and are even more likely to happen if someone doesn’t know how to handle animals. The best protection is always to learn as much as possible about them. Ah, that was fun, to learn how Frodo put one over Gomez and his bullies. And no matter how one thinks about the raiding in itself, one has to appreciate the intelligence behind the way it was done. Though of course Frodo shouldn’t have taken so much.

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As you'll realize, Gilda's concerns are less regarding the ponies themselves being dangerous than how the excitement of being around ponies might affect Frodo. But you are certainly right about how inexperience makes it more likely someone will have an accident around an animal in the future. I certainly agree with your comments here. I still am certain that whatever Frodo did throughout his life would have been done with a great deal of flair and thoroughness, whether it's taking revenge on bullies or raiding the farms of the Marish. Thanks so much for the comments, Kitty.

Kitty · 13 May 2007 · Chapter 3: Fifteenth Summer

*rolls eyes* Well, it was only to be expected that Gilda’s determination not to let Frodo do anything had to have repercussions of this sort, hadn’t it? I am glad Esme overheard the servants – it got her to think about it. The incident with Gomez was another such case. Of course it is true it would get only worse if she intervened, but still, it is good she heard it. I am glad to know there are other lads siding with Frodo in this, and even more so that Bilbo helped Frodo to get some ideas to pay Gomez back. Though I am sure Frodo doesn’t need much help – as soon as he gets the idea to avenge himself this way, he will find a lot of pranks :-) Glad Esme finally defied Gilda and took Frodo to this party. I remember your mention of it in an earlier fic (TAS, I think) – it was good to learn a bit more about it. Hmmm ... Timono was a thief, even back then? Why doesn’t that surprise me? There had to be a certain inclination to being dishonest, I think, to follow Lotho so willingly and easily. And this gives a very good reason why Bartolo despised this cousin, as well, after Timono took his shirt studs, and never worked with him. As for Bartolo's relationship with Frodo, there could be at least the beginning of the problem, though I am sure there had to be more. Meanwhile Merry was gleefully covering himself with mud as Freesia looked on with approval. *giggle* Oh, I can imagine that so well!

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Yes--don't let an already "pretty lad" do what the other kids are doing and it only makes the differences more pronounced and likely to be disparaged. And Esme needed to appreciate that Frodo is seen that way and ought not to be treated as is happening. That other kids would be likely to recognize a fineness of character in Frodo and come to respect it seemed likely, to me at least, leading some of them to begin standing up for Frodo against the bullies. I know one bully who used to target me stopped when she realized that her neighbor liked me and respected me for the fair way I treated younger kids at school. To find Gail's friendship helped stop the deviling I was receiving from her neighbor was very refreshing when I was a young teen. And for Frodo to realize he could exploit Gomez's own proclivities to get him back seemed just too likely. Yes, mentioned that party first in TAS, and now we're actually seeing part of it. And Timono's voyeurism and tendency to steal small things was mentioned there, as well. As for all the reason why Barti hasn't liked Frodo--you're right, it's more than that Frodo didn't notice Lavinia at the dance. As for Merry playing in the mud--I loved Elanor Winterflower's image of Merry's granddaughter being so delightfully grubby, and figured she had to have come by it honestly! Heh!

Queen Galadriel · 13 May 2007 · Chapter 3: Fifteenth Summer

Well, it's a good thing Esme overheard that bit of gossip in the privy, I think. Marigold makes a wonderful point. Man! Down the privy? Ugh! Poor Frodo has the works, doesn't he? And I thought my once worst enemy--a kid I went to elementary school with who just loved to torment me and anyone else whom he perceived as weaker than himself or who didn't yet know how to stand up for him/herself--was bad. The things these guys put Frodo through make the things I could tell about sound like trifles--well, most of them anyway. I wish I'd had Frodo's good sense, though. (I never told, but I didn't defend myself either, which, I guess, only encouraged the guy until after about two years I'd finally had enough and chewed him out--and, of course, got reprimanded myself.) The kind of cruelty Gomez and Company seem to enjoy would make me angry enough to retaliate, but Frodo handled it in a sensible way...I suppose. I hope Gomez and his gang do get as good as they've given sometime, though, I must confess. Oh, leave it to Bilbo to brighten Frodo up! Yes, that visit was very needed. I love seeing how different authors write Frodo meeting his first Elf, and this was really wonderful. Good for Esme, taking things into her own hands regarding the house party! Gilda continues to shock me. "Of course Frodo won't be attending..." And she'd be truly horrified to see him dancing there and acting like a normal kid his age (a very mature one). *smirks* Timono and Frodo, friends? Ha ha! How can anyone feel *sorry* for Timono? I did--until he said Frodo *had* to feel sorry for him. How babyish! Yet I still do pity him a little. If his father is really "mad" (is he?), then the kid might not get much parental care, and goodness only knows what he hears, left to himself like that. He certainly isn't the average Hobbit. What disgusting pastimes he chooses, ugh! He definitely needs help, and far more than just pity and indulgence from a relative. Ah, now I understand Bartolo's resentment towards Frodo. But I wonder if it doesn't go deeper than that. Surely it would have to, for it to last all those years. I'm interested to see how that unfolds. So wonderful to end with Frodo dancing! :) I am so glad he had that time and can't wait to read the next chapter, though I'm out of time for tonight. God bless, Galadriel

Author's reply

To stick kids' heads in toilets is common enough by bullies here in the States, or at least here on the west coast; and certainly Harry Potter was threatened with such a fate by his odious cousin Dudley, showing it must be a fairly common threat there in England as well. In days when privies fed into cesspools or into pits under outhouse seats it could be much nastier. And in the end the bullies here were brought down by their own tendencies to be vindictive! Am so glad you like that first encounter between the Elvish Hobbit and a representative of the Firstborn Yes, Esme's getting some backbone at last. Well, one does hope someone will help bring out the best in such oddballs as Timono. Yes, his father is quite mad, and Timono has a bit too much narcissism himself to be brought out of his downward spiral toward criminality by acquaintance with Frodo, whose own unusual nature is taking him in a quite different direction. This is only part of why Barti doesn't like Frodo, and it would likely have been just as offensive to him had Frodo responded to Lavinia's first fascination. And hope you like the next chapter. Wish I'd had more time to work on chapter five!