artistic_sprite
· 5 February 2008
· Chapter 5: At the House of Lord Amandil
Hi Fiondil! Just want to say keep up the good work and have a happy Chinese New Year!
Author's reply
Thanks Sprite, but I'll have a happier New Year when they stop shooting off fireworks every five minutes. It makes it difficult to concentrate on my writing. *LOL* Hope you're enjoying this tale.
Larner
· 4 February 2008
· Chapter 5: At the House of Lord Amandil
Ah, lovely to see an invocation sung here by the healer, and to see that Elendil bears the Light of Stars within him. As for the healing of all here--it is as they all recognize needful.
Now, to learn what has befallen Fiondil and, hopefully, effect his rescue!
How we come to hate Sauron and his influence!
Author's reply
Thanks, Larner. I'm glad you're finding this tale interesting. Laurendil has had several millennia to perfect his healing skills since he went kicking and screamning to Lórien. *grin* We'll probably see more of this in later chapters.
As for Sauron.... words are inadequate for how we feel about him.
Ellie
· 3 February 2008
· Chapter 5: At the House of Lord Amandil
The descriptions in this chapter were so vivid. I could picture it all so easily in my tired mind. Love Irmo's visit and Amandil is very commanding as is Elendil. Our elf sure has come along way since we first met him in elf, Interrupted. Wow! Most impressive indeed! I like the use of healing music and the meditative state he achieves so easily now in his healing. Nicely done!
Author's reply
Thanks, Ellie. I'm glad you enjoyed this chapter. Laurendil gets even more impressive as the story progresses. *grin*
Larner
· 3 February 2008
· Chapter 4: The Order of the White Stone
So, it appears the family was meant to suffer its own immolation in parody for the temple to Morgoth that Sauron raised. Now, what has happened to your namesake, Fiondil? Sounds as if his sister was right to weep in anxiety.
Author's reply
I hadn't really thought about the connection between what happened to Valandil and Vandiel's family and the temple dedicated to Morgoth, but you're right. It is a sign of things to come. As to what happened to Fiondil... we'll find out soon enough.
Ces
· 3 February 2008
· Chapter 5: At the House of Lord Amandil
Laurendil has become a favorite of mine, as has his wife.
And Vorondil! All grown up now and married! And children! He's definitely become a dear favorite of mine.
Interesting story so far and I'm eagerly following Laurendil and his mission.
I will get through all your stories eventually - they are so interesting and exciting!
Ces
Author's reply
Thanks, Ces. I'm glad you are enjoying this.
Larner
· 3 February 2008
· Chapter 3: Many Meetings
Ah, they begin to fall into place as they come to stand against Ar-Pharazon, and Elendil's folk prepare for their return to Middle Earth.
Author's reply
Although that is another 24 years away, the signs are all there and the pieces are moving across the board as they must.
Larner
· 3 February 2008
· Chapter 2: In the Hall of the Elder King
The mission accepted, and bitterness and fear begin to give way. Nice.
Am not able to remain online interminably, but will read this as I can.
Author's reply
Yes, though the mission will turn out to be quite different from what Laurendil thinks it is, but that's par for the course where the Valar are concerned.
I'm glad you're reading this whenever you can do so and look forward to whatever reviews you are able to post.
obsidianj
· 29 January 2008
· Chapter 4: The Order of the White Stone
Hah, the plot thickens. I liked the effect Laurendil had on Vandiel. Meeting an elf is not something she ever expected. I did a double take when your name showed up in the story. So, what is young Fiondil up to? I just hope he also makes it back alive.
Author's reply
I think meeting an elf for the first time, especially when you're not expecting to, would be somewhat traumatic, so fainting is allowed. *grin* The character Fiondil was created several years ago when I first started writing fanfic, though not at that time posting anything. When I started posting on SoA and was looking for a screen-name, Fiondil was my first choice. *grin* As to what the young Man is up to and what his ultimate fate is.... stay tuned, there's more to come.
Edlyn
· 28 January 2008
· Chapter 4: The Order of the White Stone
Oh, what a good read this chapter was! I'm on tenterhooks wondering what happened to Fiondil.
I liked the use of Adûnaic, though it takes some getting used to seeing on the screen after getting used to the italics being generally Quenya or Sindarin. It's intersting how much... harsher, I guess the word is... Adûnaic sounds than the Elvish languages, not at harsh as the dawrvish language (don't ask me to spell its actual name) and definitely not as harsh as the Black Speech. Hmmm. I hadn't really noticed before that the further away the culture is from Aman and the Valar the harsher the language sounds. I wonder if Professor Tolkien consciously intended that or if it was a something that he did subconsciously. Given his religious background and his grounding in history and his interest in music as well as languages I wonder if he might have been considering how the music of man is cacaphony compared to the music of the angels.
Oops! Can you tell I'm hanging around academia again? In any case meldonya, I'm really liking this tale and look forward to it's continuation.
Author's reply
Hi, Edlyn. Well, I have no idea if Tolkien consciously or unconsciously arranged the languages in such a hierarchal order from pure euphony (Valarina and Elvish) to pure cacaphony (Black Speech) but it almost sounds like an interesting subject for a thesis paper, doesn't it? LOL Adûnaic, what little we know of it, is a rather interesting language, especially seeing the influence of Sindarin on it. When you read through the actual vocabulary list of all the known Adûnaic words, you can see where there has been heavy borrowing from Sindarin, which makes sense.
As to what happened to Fiondil.... well, you'll just have to wait and see. Glad you are enjoying the tale. Thanks for reviewing.
Neilia
· 26 January 2008
· Chapter 4: The Order of the White Stone
This intriguing story has my total interest. I am impationtly waiting for the next chapter. :-) Love, Neilia
Author's reply
Thanks, Neilia. I'm glad you are enjoying the tale so far.
Radbooks
· 26 January 2008
· Chapter 4: The Order of the White Stone
I can't begin to imagine what it would be like to meet an elf, though I'm willing to do so! Fainting seems like a perfectly reasonable response to me.
I do hope that Mardil is a faithful servant and not some sort of spy... I'm always suspicious of these sorts of people, especially after reading of the horrible fire that killed the twins' parents. As for the missing Fiondil, I'm so hoping he didn't turn against this Order. The damage he could do would be incredible, but if he had I suppose they'd already be picked up or whatever the term would be in that age!
It's interesting that the Valar didn't tell Laurendil that the grandfather was dead, I wonder what that is all about. I'm not asking, mind you, just curious! :)
Looking forward to the next chapter and looking forward to seeing Isildur.
Thanks for sharing this, it's very enjoyable. I hope you're enjoying your break, I think you're on your break now.
Author's reply
Hi Radbooks. No fear about Mardil; he's the soul of discretion as every good house steward should be. As for Fiondil... we will learn of his fate soon enough.
The Valar don't do anything without a reason and there is more going on than even Laurendil suspects.
And yes, I am officially on my winter break for the next month. *grin* So I have LOTS of time for writing. Oh joy!! *LOL* Thanks for reviewing. I really appreciate it.
Radbooks
· 21 January 2008
· Chapter 3: Many Meetings
Oh, you're in your own story now, eh? :) Very interesting chapter, I enjoyed the mystery and suspense that is building up here. I know so very, very little about Numenor that it just adds to my pleasure. I was looking at Unfinished Tales today for something I'm working on and there's a map of Numenor in it so I found myself studying it for a time - which totally took me away from my writing!
Anyway, I like these new characters and this conspiracy that is going on against Sauron and the king. I do hope that Fiondil will be all right. :)
Author's reply
Oh, you're in your own story now, eh?
Not really. *grin* I created the character of Fiondil long before I decided to use the name for myself. I just liked the name so when I wanted one for myself that's the one I chose.
I am glad you found the chapter interesting. I hope you continue to find the reat of the story as interesting. Keep a bookmark on the page with the map of Númenor, it will come in handy when reading this.
As for Fiodil... we will find out soon enough. Thanks for reviewing, Radbooks.
eiluj
· 20 January 2008
· Chapter 3: Many Meetings
The wind was blustery that day, sweeping along the streets of Rómenna like a proper housewife cleaning her front stoop -- Lovely image!
You’ve discovered how to be in two places at once -- China and Númenor both! [Now if you could patent that....]
I’m looking forward to seeing your take on the significance of the seven stars, since from what I’ve read, there’s no definitive explanation. 8-(
Hidden-in-plain-sight symbolic carvings, the gentleman’s library, forbidden weapons, being moved away from home so the King’s Men can more easily keep track of those believed to be disloyal, plots, dangerous missions, priests’ holes (well, maybe not yet, but I’m sure you’ll provide at least one), secret oaths, spies, derring-do ... I feel like I’ve strayed into a Tudor or Stuart epic.
I hope Eärendur has a good hiding place for that book....
Thus, Amandil is their great-uncle and Elendil their first cousin, making Valandil, Vandiel, Isildur and Anárion all first cousins once removed --
Sorry, but if I understand who’s who, that’s *not* the nature of the younger generation’s relationship.
Elentir and Amandil are brothers, so their children (Elendil and Elemmacil) are first cousins: they have the same grandparents. Because the twins are one generation away from their father Elemmacil, Elendil’s relationship to them is that of first cousin once removed -- they are one generation away (i.e., removed) from his first cousin Elemmacil. [First, calculate the relationship to the nearest person of the same generation -- in this case, Elendil and Elemmacil, who are first cousins. Next, count the number of generations difference on the one side: one generation from Elemmacil to his children. So Elendil and the twins are first cousins one generation removed.]
In the same way, of course, Isildur and Anárion are Elemmacil’s first cousins once removed.
Just as Elendil and Elemmacil are first cousins (sharing the same grandparents), their children are second cousins (sharing the same great-grandparents). [And as second cousins, both elves and hobbits would approve of them marrying -- though of course we don’t really know what sort of rules hobbit society had in the SA!]
For a slightly more complex example: Isildur’s sons will be Elemmacil’s first cousins *twice* removed.
http://www.genealogy.com/16_cousn.html
Author's reply
And of course, you're correct. I was reading the wrong generation when I wrote that and never thought to double-check. Thanks for pointing it out though you really did not have to go into such detail. I studied Estates and Future Interest in Law School and we had to learn our geneology there. *grin*
Hidden-in-plain-sight symbolic carvings, the gentleman’s library, forbidden weapons, being moved away from home so the King’s Men can more easily keep track of those believed to be disloyal, plots, dangerous missions, priests’ holes (well, maybe not yet, but I’m sure you’ll provide at least one), secret oaths, spies, derring-do ... I feel like I’ve strayed into a Tudor or Stuart epic.
Yeah, but the story of the Downfall almost reads like one anyway. LOL
Alquawende
· 19 January 2008
· Chapter 3: Many Meetings
>>As it is, Isildur probably had a time leaving Rómenna undetected himself."
should there be something to describe 'time' in the sentence? Like 'hard time' or 'difficult time?'
I really enjoyed this and can't wait for more. Thanks for updating and writing!
Author's reply
You'r probably right. Thanks for pointing this out. I'll go change it. Glad you liked the chapter.
obsidianj
· 18 January 2008
· Chapter 2: In the Hall of the Elder King
You have me hooked on another story. It was fun to see the familiar characters and have some new ones added. Since I'm lousy at timetables and tend to ignore any times and dates given in headers, it took me a while to place this story in the grand scheme of things. Until I read the reviews I didn't realize that this is nearly 3000 years after Elf Interrupted.
I look forward to Laurendil's mission and what he is supposed to accomplish or not accomplish on Numenor.
Author's reply
Ignoring headers... hmmm.... Lord Námo has a special hall just for people like you. LOL
Seriously, I'm glad you're hoooked and hope you stay that way. These first two chapters are more an introduction to the actual story which begins in chapter 3 and takes place on Númenor. And yes, this story takes place 2.791 years after the events chronicled in the first book of Elf, interrupted and approximately 2,100 years after Glorfindel has returnd to Middle-earth. That's a lot of water under the bridge.
Nieriel Raina
· 15 January 2008
· Chapter 2: In the Hall of the Elder King
Wow, what a chapter. I knew I'd like this story. *grin* Loved the scene at the grove with Vorondil. That poor ellon has been through a lot, hasn't he? It is good to see him matured though, well as mature as he can get anyway, being an elfling at heart. *grin* Caladundil's reaction to Namo was cute. I just adore Namo's compassion too. I'm sure the Vala can deal with it, after all, if I recall, he did his own beating up on Atar once or twice. *grin*
Okay, my favorite part of this chapter was the transporting. That was GREAT!
"And mayhap, thy message will be less important than thy presence," Námo added, sounding grave.
The elves all stared at the Lord of Mandos in wonder. Vorondil then snorted. "And you’re not going to tell us why, are you?" he asked, giving the Vala a cheeky grin.
Námo effected an affronted air, though the older elves could detect a glint of humor in the Vala’s eyes that the younger ones missed. Marilla gave a small gasp at her husband’s tone and her brothers looked upon their sister’s husband with something bordering on awe at his audacity.
"I never reveal my sources of information, you know that," Námo said in cold tones that made the snows of Taniquetil seem warm in comparison.
Manwë started laughing. "Not even to us," he said with a wink to the elves, "so I doubt he’ll be any more forthcoming to you Children."
LOL! I really loved this.
And I look forward to finding out what Laurendil's message is and all that happens. Great chapter.
NiRi
Author's reply
Thanks, NiRi. I'm glad you enjoyed this chapter. Yes, Calaldundil is a cutie and no doubt Námo was remembering his own little tantrums when the elfling attacked him. *grin*
The "I never reveal my sources" scene was fun to write. I could see Námo looking miffed at Vorondil's question yet at he same time secretly laughing, perhaps even having a 'private' conversation with Manwë about it at the same time. *grin*
Anyway, thanks for reviewing. The next chapter will be up by the weekend.
Radbooks
· 12 January 2008
· Chapter 2: In the Hall of the Elder King
Very nice chapter. Poor Vorondil still having to deal with that fear of the grove and what was done to him that night, though it did seem to work. But, perhaps the same results could have been achieved in a different manner, huh? His son is a chip off the old block, isn't he? I loved the image of him telling Ingil what his job was, it just struck me as so childlike and innocent and very true to life.
You should portray the change in Finrod very well. He is so much more mature and sure of himself now. 2900 hundred years will do that to you! :)
I'm resisting asking all of the questions I desperately want to ask and will just say I'm looking forward to the next chapter. *grin*
Author's reply
Thanks, Radbooks. I'm glad you liked the chapter. Calaldundil is a sweetie isn't he? I have attempted to portray what has happened to these characters nearly 2800 years after the events of Elf, Interrupeted: Book One, without giving away too much of the plot of EI2, so some questions will have to remain unaswered for some time.
Rhyselle
· 11 January 2008
· Chapter 2: In the Hall of the Elder King
Finally got a break and could read the new chapter thoroughly. :) As much as I am intrigued by the backstory about Earnur's death and Laurendil's grief, I have to admit that Vorondil and his son stole the scene for me. Calaldundil is such a sweetie. How old is he, by the way? I re-read chapter 1 and while we know that Laurendil's youngest's age, I couldn't find how old the elfling actually was.
The mental image of him flying at Lord Namo was priceless. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and it's obvious that Calaldundil has his atar's "act first, think later" trait. And I'm absolutely certain that had we seen this scene from Namo's perspective, we'd see that he was hiding amusement.
I need to get back to work but I just had to tell you that I like this story as much as I like "Elf Interrupted" and "Wars of the Valar"
Author's reply
Thanks, Rhyselle. I'm glad you not only enjoyed this chapter but also am enjoying the story as a whole. As for Calaldundil's age, the passage in chapter One that you were looking for is:
Manwen forbore to pester Laurendil with any questions concerning Findaráto or what was troubling her husband, keeping to safer subjects, such as the latest escapade of their grandson, only just turned fourteen.
That would make him not quite six in human terms, so you can just imagine how effective his attack on Námo would have been. *grin* I"m sure both Námo and Ingil found the whole thing hysterical but forbore from letting the elves know. Personally, my favorite part of the whole scene is of Irmondil and Eärnur slowly backing away while their nephew goes after Námo. The image of them hoping to avoid the coming wrath of the Lord of Mandos is quite funny to me.
Thanks for taking the time to review.
Alquawende
· 10 January 2008
· Chapter 2: In the Hall of the Elder King
I feel for Vorondil. It was a big shock for him to enter the grove. His son is so adorable. Especially when he's hitting Namo. The part where Laurendil asnwers like how he would as a patrol guard, is funny, at least to me, especially in a hall with the Elder King and Star Queen. Thanks for writing! Hope to see an update soon! ^^
Author's reply
Glad you liked this chapter, Alquawendë. Yes, Calaldundil is adorable as only an elfling who's father is Vorondil can be. LOL. This story will be updated once a week. It's not very long so I'm stretching it out a bit. *grin*
artistic sprite
· 10 January 2008
· Chapter 1: In the Gardens of Lórien
Another series! I'll be looking forward to updates to cheer my new year up. Sounds gloomy but sadly the truth. Is Laurendil going to be the main character? If he is, great! I kinda like that elf, 'cause of his loyalty to Finrod. Has Glorfindel been sent to Endor around that time? 'Cause I didn't see him with Finrod(both of them are like pratically glued together;kinda sweet though!).
Author's reply
Yes, Laurendil will be one of the main characters. By this time, Glorfindel has been in Middle-earth for almost 2100 years. I will be updating this story once a week.
Nieriel Raina
· 9 January 2008
· Chapter 1: In the Gardens of Lórien
Well, that would explain why Earnur's name was so familiar and I felt I should know it for some reason. *headdesk* Thanks for explaining!
Nieriel Raina
· 8 January 2008
· Chapter 1: In the Gardens of Lórien
Finally! Got my lap top back, everything put back on it, and not a moment too soon. My beast died this morning. *grin* But I'm back now full force! YAY!
Well, I'm not sure what I was expecting, but this wasn't it! I mean that in a good way, though. Wow. So much has...changed. And not changed. Kind of like life.
Love Laurendil and Manwen having kids, ESPECIALLY! Vorondil being his son in law. THAT IS SO COOL! Almost as cool as Vorondil having his own elfling to deal with. *grin* And he is so grown up and yet...still so VORONDIL! *huggles overgrown elfling* This whole family unit is so endearing already.
Well, like I said, not sure what I was expecting, but this was a great beginning, full of hints of story line to come, throughly confusing and hooking your readers in one go, which is what you want to do in a first chapter of any story. But I really loved seeing characters we already know and love, especially Finrod, who it did not escape me was called Findarato exclusively until Laurendil mentioned him in their grove where only Sindarin is spoken.
So, interesting beginning. Laurendil is going into the lion's den with a message from the Valar, and we have all these hints about someone named Earnur who he named his son after. I almost wonder if this elf was Finrod's son, but I'm not sure the emotion was there on Finrod's behalf. Of course, he knows death so maybe it wouldn't have to be there. And maybe I'm reaching too far. I'd just like to see him happily wed with a brood of his own.
Irmo grows on me everytime I see him in your work, but then, all the Valar do, as we see all the facets of their personalities shimmer in the light.
There was something I wanted to ask...what was it? Oh! Vorondil's son's name, Caladundil. Anything to do with Vorondil's Naneth? Or just coincidence. I just saw the similarity in their names and thought I'd ask. Not that you'll tell me. LOL
Nice opening. Now I want more. *grin*
NiRi
Author's reply
Glad you hear you got your laptop back. *grin*
I think it's interesting to see how things have changed (or not) over the millennia for these people. I was rather surprised to learn that Vorondil had married into Laurendil and Manwen's family, but I was also happy to see it. Eärnur was the journeyman Healer whom Finrod and Laurendil befriended. You are correct though that Finrod has a different take on death than Laurendil would have so while he truly grieves for his friend's death, he knows from personal experience how it is with Eärnur at this time.
Calaldunil's name is indeed a combination of Vorondil's parents' names and translates as "Friend/Lover of the Light of the Two Trees".
I will be posting a new chapter of this story every week. It is not be a very long story, only about a dozen or so chapters, most of which are already written.
Glad you liked the start of this and that you want more. That's music to an author's ears. *grin*
eiluj
· 7 January 2008
· Chapter 1: In the Gardens of Lórien
You’re addicted to juggling three stories at once, I guess (and at least two more in the wings!).
I hadn’t realized there was that much time between Isildur’s stealing the seed and the Downfall. Years and years and years of horribleness.
“I fear that the only other person capable of dealing with what you will find there is standing next to you” -- Now, that’s an interesting statement, when I think about the various skills and qualities those two have in common, especially the unusual ones: wondering exactly which abilities will be the most useful! I can think of two or three reasons why Glorfindel, for instance, probably wouldn’t have qualified (besides that I imagine he’s currently residing in Imladris and is not exactly available to be sent to Númenor!).
“Calaldundil,” hm? That’s interesting too!
"And you’re the only one in all of Aman the Valar feel is capable of giving these Edain a message they are likely to ignore?" -- Poor Laurendil. The proverbial Thankless Task. Then again, we don’t yet know what message, or to whom he’s supposed to deliver it.
“For convenience, I have adopted the Calendar of Imladris for this story” -- I note that you don’t say *whose* convenience! [If it were *my* convenience, it would be the Shire calendar! ;-)]
I hate to mention how long it took me to remember who Eärnur is....
Author's reply
We actually don't know what the timeframe for certain events were since Tolkien didn't give them. We know when certain events occurred before other events but that is all we know. I have set the time of this story 24 years before the Downfall for my own purposes. Also, in the Silmarillion it says that Isildur lay ill until the seed he stole germinated and a sapling appeared the following spring. Also when the Downfall occurred, they took a seed of THAT tree with them. Seems to me that some time would have to pass for the tree to grow enough to actually have seeds.
Yes, Glorfindel, by this time, is residing in Imladris and is unavailable.*gri8n*
The convenience of using the Calandar of Imladris (and actually it's merely the Shire Calandar from Appendix D with acknolwedgement of how the elves marked the seasons) is based on the fact that the elves of Aman and the Númenórëans did not share the same calendar. The Amanian calendar recognized only 6 days in a week, while the Númenórëans made the innovation of adding a seventh day. It's easier to pretend everyone is using the same calendar instead of trying to juggle dates.
Glad you enjoyed this first chapter. Thanks for reviewins.
Neilia
· 7 January 2008
· Chapter 1: In the Gardens of Lórien
Oh, this is good! A keeper. Can't wait for the next chapter!
Author's reply
Thanks, Neilia. Glad you liked it.
Tira
· 6 January 2008
· Chapter 1: In the Gardens of Lórien
yay! another story!! *hugs fiondil* i love your stories, and this one starts out like it shall be as good as the others...
otherwise...how is EI Book 2 coming along? *grins*
Author's reply
Thanks Tira, I'm glad you like this one and hopefully it will not disappoint. As for EI2... if you keep nagging, you'll never see it. EI2 will be posted when it's posted and not a second sooner.