The Ties that Bind by daw the minstrel
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Noor
· 29 October 2016
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What a wonderful insight into a younger Ithilden and the birth of Eilian. Initially I thought it was going to be Legolas' birth but then of course it was impatient Eilian! I had somehow missed this one chapter story so thank you. I do so love the fact that you go back to this family from time to time.
Author's reply
I miss these characters when I've been away from them for too long.
mistry89
· 14 March 2008
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Proving that Eilian's sense of timing was destined to be not quite in tune with Ithilden :)
Thank you!
Author's reply
Eilian was trouble from Day One, shaking up his father and demolishing Ithilden's sense of order. LOLOL.
Glad you liked it, Mistry.
elliska
· 2 March 2008
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I was happily enjoying Ithilden's complete innocence regarding children in general and Eilian in particular and enjoying his willingness to dance with a maiden without being prodded when...--I was as surprised as Ithilden by Eilian's birth. Hilarious and so typically him! This was a great story Daw!
Author's reply
You don't think baby Eilian will sleep most of the time? LOLOL. I don't either, and I enjoyed having Nithron and Deler make fun of clueless Ithilden. I'd mentioned Eilian being born in the woods in the story I wrote for Dot last year (Visitors) so it seemed appropriate to trot it out here. Poor Thranduil.
Thanks for the review, Elliska.
Gwynhyffar
· 2 March 2008
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Oh gosh, what could be more satisfying than an Ithilden-centric fic featuring Thranduil and Lorellin??? I love seeing Thranduil happily married and revelling in wife and family. It's doubly interesting seeing it from Ithilden's POV. Poor Ithilden, though! He's a tiny bit self-centered and used to being an only child. That kind of shows early in the story. You almost get the sense that he's jealous of the time that his parents are spending focused inward on the baby. Hmmm, maybe jealous is too strong of a word. I felt for him at any rate. He just doesn't get it yet. He will, of course-and seems to by the end when Eilian makes his appearance.
Sarith is a piece of work! I loved Ithilden's embarrassment at their first meeting, and how he decides his mother is just too busy with the baby to push them together. *snort* She has more sense than that! I think she would have a thing or two to say to him if she thought he were seriously going to court that chippy!
Wonderful as always, daw!
Author's reply
Thanks, Gwyn.
I think you're right about Ithilden. What I'd say is that he feels shut out. And of course, he's used to being the center of his parents' love. I'm sure that exasperated him sometimes, but he also must find it strange when the situation changes.
Lorellin would be appalled at the idea of Ithilden marrying Sarith. I hope she'd have enough sense to hold her tongue and let him decide on his own. Or maybe she could push him into it! Then he'd really back away. LOL.
Glad you liked it.
Nilmandra
· 25 February 2008
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What you need to do is pass the debt along to your aide or maybe that baby brother, who is sure to cause no trouble at all
This is one of my favorite lines, LOL. Oh, if they only knew how much trouble that impatient elfling was going to cause them.
I also enjoyed clueless Ithilden. I can see him this way in his younger years, clueless about children and to some degree, about people.
I have to admit now that when I first read the story, I though this was Ithilden's second child you were writing about.... (hint, hint).
Author's reply
(hint, hint)
LOL. Well, he or she is coming. Eventually. His kids are lucky that Eilian and Legolas taught him a thing or two before they came along.
In the meantime, Eilian is on the scene and ready for action.
Thanks for the beta read and all your support.
Dot
· 24 February 2008
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I forgot to say -
"We were not concentrating on the precise time," his father snapped.
LOLOLOL!
I'll stop spamming you now and go dream about Lathron instead.
Author's reply
Spam like this I can live with. :-) Poor Ithilden. His parents just scandalize him sometimes.
I'm so confused. I have to keep logging in and out, depending on whether I'm using my account or Nilmandra's.
Dot
· 24 February 2008
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I don’t even know where to start with this! You’ve put in so many things that make me smile :-)
The opening is gorgeous. The start of spring... so this would be the 1st February, right? ;-) Anyway, that image of Thranduil listening to the trees made me go all fangirly. It’s such an elfy thing for them all to gather and celebrate the beginning of new life in the forest. I love that they look on it as New Year.
I didn’t realise at first when it was set so when you mentioned pregnant Lorellin I got all excited. Especially as it wasn’t a story where she’s giving out to Ithilden and making me hiss at her. It was really wonderful to watch her and Thranduil from Ithilden’s point of view as they come near to the time for the baby to be born. I actually felt a little sorry for her when she so obviously wanted to join in but couldn’t. I imagine it’s no harm that her son, her husband and the healer were all nearby or she might just have given in to the temptation to swing up into a tree.
Ithilden’s mild bewilderment at his mother’s distracted state is very sweet. It’s such a lovely idea that her focus turns inwards towards the new baby.
And Gwaleniel is there and pregnant too! I’m chuckling gleefully because I know the future and Ithilden doesn’t.
"You were the talk of the village maidens for the next month." LOL! Not exactly shy, is she? She has that openness that tells me she’s used to being indulged. And she’s clearly still being protected and babied. My heart went out to her parents at the thought of them losing a child and I can see why they’ve sheltered her but crikey, she needs to get out more. It made me laugh when Ithilden reads his mother’s silence as baby-distraction. Not to mention her comment about them having the same lacing. If even Lorellin, the unstoppable matchmaker, isn’t pushing them together, I’d stop and think about the reason!
Calith’s appearance as a young and inexperienced new aide startled me :-D LOLOL. Poor Calith. Ithilden must have seemed really formidable to work for. It was fun seeing Nithron and Deler again too. Deler must win the prize for the longest-serving Home Guard captain. You know, before you kill him. And I always liked Nithron. You know, before you kill him.
You mean because of the baby?" Ithilden shrugged. "He is due tomorrow. They will name him the next day, and then life will return to normal." Nithron and Deler looked at one another. Simultaneously, they guffawed. ROTFL!! I love clueless!Ithilden. Wait until he discovers something he can’t control. Ever.
I truly appreciate it even if I do occasionally sound like an ungrateful ass. I love Ithilden. I really, really do.
I look forward to the day I can repay your patient care. Heh. By giving him Sinnarn. Hmm.
What you need to do is pass the debt along to your aide or maybe that baby brother, who is sure to cause no trouble at all. Wise words. Lucky for Calith, anyway.
Another lovely image of Thranduil and Lorellin. In a way it must have felt almost intrusive to be around them at this time.
He found the cakes too sweet himself, but he did remember loving them as a child. Wake up, Ithilden! She’s an overgrown elfling! Your mother isn’t too distracted to push you together, she’s too distracted to pull you apart!
The thing is, I can’t blame Sarith for being an idiot in front of Ithilden because, let’s face it, I’d disgrace myself too but this girl has no sense at all. I was very relieved when Ithilden finally decided to stop giving her the benefit of the doubt and realised what a silly little twit she is. I could think of worse words too.
He mother lay on the ground, covered with a suede cloak Ithilden recognized as his father's. His father stood over her, holding a wriggling, blood-slicked baby. Well. Hello, Eilian. Someone really is in a hurry to be in the woods! I was actually thrilled to see this after you mentioned it in ‘Visitors’. And it’s perfect, just perfect, that he’s born in the forest. But poor Thranduil – what a shock! I’ve never seen him that unsure what to do. Still, he better get used to Eilian trying to give him a heart-attack.
"Give me your shawl. LOL! What is it about Ithilden and ladies’ shawls? Doesn’t Alfirin’s end up on fire? Still, it was quick thinking! And I don’t feel the slightest bit sorry for Sarith having her shawl taken and being sent off into the woods. Ha.
How could someone so small be so hard to manage? LOL! You think he’s hard to manage now?? Just wait.
"I suppose, but I will be glad enough to pass along the gifts I have been given." I love that he listened to Nithron and took in what he said.
"Mae govannen, Eilian. Welcome to this family and these woods." Aww, that made me just about melt. Ithilden can see him as his brother now and make that special connection with him instead of thinking of the birth just as an event that was going to take place before things went back to normal.
The last line is just beautiful. I love how you wound through the story the deep bonds that tie these people – to the forest, to each other and to the next generation. And how central these ties are to their culture. Lovely.
I know I’ve forgotten half of what I wanted to say (and no, it didn’t involve anything about moveable begetting days ;-) because I got all caught up in it again when I re-read it to review. You’re probably better off if I don’t keep talking anyway! I really, really enjoyed this, daw. You’re so good to me. Thank you.
Author's reply
I'll bet Tolkien thought of spring more in the terms you do than in the ones I do, Dot! I looked this up though, trying to see when the elves celebrated the New Year. They did do it the first day of spring. I'm trying to remember if that's March 1 or April 1. I don't know. I just wish it were spring here!
Ithilden was an only child for a long time and I thought he might feel closed out, which is one reason he's willing to spend some time with Sarith. That'll show his mother! Of course, Lorellin would be appalled by the match. She knows Ithilden needs someone of substance. And lo and behold, that someone is there! She's just not born yet.
Occasionally, I notice I've killed a lot of characters over the years. Deler and Nithron had a good time at Ithilden's expense, and it was nice to bring them on stage. They made me laugh too.
When I first wrote about Sarith trying to coax Ithilden into doing what she likes by offering kisses, I considered making him flustered. But then I thought, hey, this guy is centuries old. He's not going to be daunted. He's going to think she's ridiculous! He may not be Mr. Smooth with maidens, but he recognizes substance or lack thereof when he sees it.
I hope you did enjoy this, Dot. I want you to know how much I value you as a reader and a friend.
Idhreniel
· 24 February 2008
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As always a nice fic! Eilian causing trouble since his birth! I presume that much of his conection to the woods comes from his birth. Great to read from you again, Daw!
Hugs!
Author's reply
Eilian just never could do anything the "right" way. Ithilden is about to spend years becoming an exasperated but much wiser elf. :-)
Glad you liked it, Idhreniel.
perelleth
· 24 February 2008
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A lovely tale! I loved the springness of it all: Calith as newly minted aide to fearsome Ithilden, the Stronghold bursting with newborns, Alfirin and Eilian about to come into the woods... and the amused snorts of Deler and Nithron at Ithilden's trust that everything would be the same after a day or two... Ithilden trying his hand at courting without his mother's prompting... Of course Eilian had to come in making trouble and giving joy as it will be his trademark.
HAppy birthday, Dot, I hipe you are enjoying your early spring!
Author's reply
Lots of new beginnings. And really, not much of a plot, sad to say. But I like taking these characers out and playing with them sometimes.
I like the idea of Eilian as a combination of trouble and joy.
Bodkin
· 24 February 2008
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Sarith is a silly little bit of fluff. Although I suppose you can hardly blame her for having a fangirl moment over Ithilden - and I daresay her parents have babied her outrageously if her older sister drowned. I don't expect she'll be so keen on the bossy Ithilden who ruine her shawl by wrapping it round a bloody and slippery newborn Eilian and barked orders at her. Dear Eilian - causing trouble from the moment of his birth. Start as you mean to go on, I say.
And Calith - new to his job and nervous about managing to do it properly. I'm glad Nithron and Deler reminded Ithilden that everybody has to start somewhere. Ithilden has already got the stick quality he's so famed for - and that Eilian will do his best to adjust. The baby will be born to a timetable and co-operate with his keepers ... yeah, I join Nithron and Deler in their laughter.
I love Thranduil and Lorellin's intimacy here - they are so wrapped up in each other and the baby. I think Ithilden, for all his centuries, is suffering from the jealous pangs of an about-to-be-supplanted only child here.
Lovely story. Happy birthday, Dot.
Author's reply
For this story, I was thinking about the bonds that hold communities together. I think of Elves as bonded to Arda and Wood Elves as further bonded to a particular place. And their bonds to one another come from the same sort of power or ability. But the family and community bond works only if older people pass along the care they've been given to new generations. The debt works ever onward, not back, as Nithron tells Ithilden.
Sarith, on the other hand, is a baby herself, past the time when she should be. Plus she's just a light weight. Ithilden needs someone substantial. Take a look at the pregnant healer, Ithilden! Your wife is waiting to be born.
Ithilden is completely unaware of how his life is about to be made much livelier. :-)
Redheredh
· 24 February 2008
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Very enjoyable! Loved that it was really about Ithilden. *giggle*
Well since Dot is human, is not fitting she have a birthday every nine months or so? ;)
Author's reply
Dot's an Ithilden fan, so I tried to think of a story she'd like about him. I used to hesitate to write a story without Legolas in it, but I finally decided what the heck. Thranduil is there.
Poor Ithilden. He is so clueless about babies.
sofia
· 23 February 2008
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Oh that was enjoyable! Another good one! I bet Sarith won't try to seduce Ithilden anymore. And Ithilden doesn't have a clue how much of a handful Eilian will be. Pity. ;)
I enjoy reading your stories Daw and I can't wait to read the next one.
Sofia
Author's reply
Thanks, Sofia. Sarith is an idiot, and I expect Ithilden scared her so badly she hurried home and didn't come out for a long while. And I think you're right about Ithilden and baby Eilian. Ithilden is about to learn that babies and "normality" don't mix. LOL.
Thanks for the review.
artistic sprite
· 23 February 2008
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Wow, that's fast!:0
Author's reply
Yes, indeed! I had a friend whose baby was born in the car on the way to the hospital, so it's possible even among humans. My own son took 31 hours to decide we'd both had enough. Typical!
Elflingimp
· 22 February 2008
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Hi Daw! I really enjoyed this story, its a nice view into the world you've created. I like all the little side stories about parts of thier lives we havent been privy to. Hugs The Imp
Author's reply
Putting those side stories in is half the fun. Like Calith. He had to have had a first day at work some time. To my great good fortune, readers seem to enjoy seeing these things too.
Glad you liked it, Elflingimp.
Elena Tiriel
· 22 February 2008
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Hi Daw,
Well, I love the way you write family relationships, and this story is no exception.
But Sarith is definitely not going to be Ithilden's wife, I see... much to the relief of them both! LOLOL!
And Eilian was in a hurry.... what else is new?
Well done, Daw! I always look forward to each and every story you gift us with.
- Barbara
Author's reply
This was fun to write. Even Lorellin knew Sarith was wrong, so very wrong, for Ithilden. She was dressed in baby clothes, for heaven's sake!
Eilian is about to demonstrate to Ithilden that life will never be "normal" again. :-)
Glad you liked it, ET. Thanks for the review.
Ces
· 22 February 2008
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Yes Ithilden, everything will be back to normal as soon as the baby is named....*snort* To paraphrase Nimloth, “You direct warriors, not elflings.” He is so clueless!
I love reading about Thranduil and Lorellin. She was his strength and together they were whole. I can't even begin to imagine the emptiness he must feel after her death. Their love shines through in your writings of them.
And what can one say about baby Eilian? Of course he has to be ornery and be born on a day other than the one his parents planned, right?!
Great story as usual. And perfect timing as I'm rereading your stories now!
Author's reply
Hey! Ithilden needs some sympathy! LOL. He's been an only child for a long time and he likes order. A baby is going to rock his world, especially this baby.
I found it interesting to think about what a married bond might be like when the wife was pregnant. They're bonded to one another and to the new baby. That must a completely absorbing experience.
Thanks so much for the kind words, Ces.
Agape4Gondor
· 22 February 2008
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Lovely tale - I love the rapport between husband and wife. And Sarith is definitely not what Ithilden needs for a mate!
Author's reply
Sarith is so far out of her league, she doesn't even know what game is being played. In the meantime, Thranduil and Lorellin are concentrating on their bond with one another and the new baby. Ithilden must wonder if everyone but him has gone mad. :-)
Glad you liked it, Agape.
meckinock
· 22 February 2008
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Yep, things'll get right back to normal, soon as that baby comes. That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time! Poor Ithilden. He's not used to his parents going la-la on him, and he sure as heck doesn't have a clue how the new baby is going to rearrange his life - for the next five hundred years or so. LOL.
Author's reply
Fortunately for Poor!Sinnarn, Ithilden had a couple of opportunities to learn about babies before he came along. I love it when Ithilden is clueless. :-)
Nieriel Raina
· 22 February 2008
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Awwww! How sweet to see Eilian brought into the world. I enjoyed seeing all this from Ithilden's POV. He is quite a lovely OC. Well done as always. A nice addition to your ever growing collection. *grin*
Author's reply
Thank you, NiRi. I'm suspect Ithilden took a while to see this event as "sweet." The whole thing was way out of control, so far as he was concerned. LOL. But then, that's the way babies usually are.
Glad you liked it.
nessie
· 22 February 2008
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I knew it was Eilian they were expecting. I loved the part where Deler and Nithron were poking fun at Ithilden because he's clueless about babies lol. Everything will be back to normal, indeed. I imagine Eilian was quite the calm baby ;-)
I imagine Sarith was barely of age here; she's very naive and thinks that being the king's son entails him to have rights above everybody else--as if Ithilden would trust any other to command his troops! All I thought about when Gwalenial appeared was that Ithilden's wife was currently growing inside her, as Lorellin subtley (this time) matchmakes.
I also love how Thranduil and Lorellin are so into each other as they start to prepare for this new addition to the family! And quite a different experience from Ithilden also!
You can say one thing about Eilian living a little impusively on the wild side---but EILIAN never cut a dwarf's beard off just to show him who's boss (while doing a deadly sword-dance, might I add)! Thranduil's doings in his rebellious youth seem to be...well, calculating--while Eilian just seems to want impulsive fun. I really wish Eilian, Ithilden, and Legolas learn about that incident one day---I'm sure jaws will drop to the floor.
"As if he had the slightest control over what his mother did, Ithilden thought."
And I bet his being less-in-control is a real pain in his backside! Lol, poor Ithilden is just not use to it; well, perhaps he was with his mother...the only exception he'd allow! (As if he had any choice).
Anyways, daw, as always, I loved it! It's always a treat to see Lorellin, and even more interesting to see some sort of interactions before the youngest two came along.
~nessie~
Author's reply
Ithilden was an only child for a long time! When I thought about it, I thought maybe Eilian's birth was a shock for him, not so much because he has a sibling as because of the general chaos that babies tend to generate. Ithilden is not much in favor of chaos. :-)
I thought of Sarith as a big baby herself, someone who should be an adult, ready to care for the next generation but instead still wanting to be cared for herself. And yeah, she is totally clueless about Ithilden's sense of responsiblity.
Thranduil wishes me to tell you that stories of sword dancing and dwarf barbering are not to be passed along to his sons. :-)
Glad you enjoyed it, Nessie.
Larner
· 22 February 2008
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Poor, poor Sarith. Calculating, but not sufficiently experienced to understand what true responsibility entails. But she'll learn! Heh! And one small ellon has decided to come just a bit early. That's one thing Ithilden needs to understand--that babies are NOT particularly predictable! Heh!
Author's reply
Not predictable and not likely to let things go back to normal any time soon! At least, that was my sad experience. I was nearly as clueless as Ithilden when my son was born. I though I'd have my life and a baby too. Ha! as Nithron says.
Sarith is an idiot and a big baby. Since there's a real baby to be tended, no one has time for her.
Jay of Lasgalen
· 22 February 2008
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Wow. That was an extremely fast labour and birth!! And Eilian seems to cause havoc from the start :>)
I love poor, clueless Ithilden: '"You mean because of the baby?" Ithilden shrugged. "He is due tomorrow. They will name him the next day, and then life will return to normal."
Nithron and Deler looked at one another. Simultaneously, they guffawed. '
Happy (early) birthday to Dot!
Jay
Author's reply
Yeah, I wish my son had been born that quickly. Well, maybe not that quickly, but more quickly than he was!
I had to make it quick though because in "Visitors," I said Eilian rushed into the world so quickly he was born in the woods and Lorellin always claimed Thranduil nearly fainted. :-)
Clueless is right. LOL
Dot
· 22 February 2008
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Oh, daw. THANK YOU! It's wonderful. But then, you had me at the first word ;-) Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I have to work tomorrow but I'll leave a proper review when I can. I'm still in over-excited mode at the moment - and there I'd been, thinking how dull my night was!
I'm off to read it again :-)
P.S. How did you know begetting day plus nine months minus four days is just how I like to celebrate it?
Author's reply
You're very welcome, Dot. I had fun writing it. If you can't have chocolate, at least you should be able to have Ithilden!