The Keys of the Realm by Larner
Neilia · 25 May 2008 · Chapter 5: Tokens of Honors Earned
Another wonderful chapter to a wonderful tale. I await further postings with bated breath! No kidding! So well written and so well presented! It is interesting from the 'get-go'. :D Hugs, Neilia
Author's reply
Thank you so, Neilia. Next chapter will be posted about Wednesday, I hope.
Grumpy · 25 May 2008 · Chapter 5: Tokens of Honors Earned
Wouldn't you just love to see Frodo and Sam with circlets and sam in armour. Actually I would not mind a look see at the treasuries of the city, and I promise I would even take any of the goods.
Author's reply
Oh, I agree, Grumpy--I rather wish the movies had used Cormallen rather than the Houses of Healing myself. And I'd LOVE to see the Treasuries of Gondor--they must be wonderful!
grumpy · 25 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
Hmmm this lord from Langstrand seems to have doubts, off with his head! Whoops good thing I am not king. Faramir handled him quite well. Dress robes for the king, I guess ranger garb is not going to do.
Author's reply
I'd think the court might indeed look to see what the King could look like when actually DRESSED like a king! Heh! As for the lord from Langstrand--wellllll---- But then your suggestion isn't outside the realms of possibility! Heh!
Antane · 25 May 2008 · Chapter 5: Tokens of Honors Earned
Indeed...Sam*wise* - it irritates/grieves me that the Gaffer would call his own son half-wit when from he is so much more. We all know better and hopefully the Gaffer, when he saw his son returned grown so much, would see it too. Namarie, God bless, Antane :)
Author's reply
I read one story in which the Gaffer tried to avoid a bad fate for his son by naming him as he did, fearing that if it was realized just how smart Sam was it could lead to major problems.
Kitty · 25 May 2008 · Chapter 5: Tokens of Honors Earned
Another question answered - how did they get the circlets for Frodo and Sam? They had to be made specially, I suspect, so I sometimes wondered. It's not something everyone bears in his pocket, after all. The same goes for the mail Sam got at Cormallen. Very sweet of Húrin to have this signet ring for Aragorn made as his own personal gift. It shows how much he loves the one who helped him so much after he lost his arm, and I am sure Aragorn will greatly appreciate this gift. Lovely chapter, Larner!
Author's reply
I would think these would be made purposely, and who else to make them besides Gimli, who knows and honors the two of them? And I had to figure out where this armor might have come from! Oh, I'm certain that Aragorn will appreciate the gift as well as the symbolism it contains. Thanks so, Kitty.
Baggins Babe · 25 May 2008 · Chapter 5: Tokens of Honors Earned
Another marvellous gap-filler, Larner. I often wondered where those items came from, and this is a wonderful explanation. I loved the description of the gift from Lord Hurin to his King - and Gimli is indeed a great craftsman. I always feel as though I've been given a peep into the Professor's world when I read stories like this.
Author's reply
Thank you so, Baggins Babe. As old as Minas Tirith/Anor was, it must have had extensive treasuries and so on. I'm so glad you feel this adds to the original.
Linda Hoyland · 24 May 2008 · Chapter 5: Tokens of Honors Earned
I like the idea of Gimli making the circets and the ring.It is awe inspiring to think who commands the eagles!
Author's reply
I'm so glad you like these items having been crafted by Gimli. That they fit Frodo and Sam indicated they were probably created by one allowed to measure their heads, at least. And I have always been delighted to think that the Great Eagles were Manwe's servants! Thanks so!
Linda Hoyland · 24 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
You show Faramir's wisdom well here. Gondor is fortunate indeed to have both him and Aragorn.
Author's reply
Oh, how I agree, Linda. Faramir was indeed a wise one, and clear-sighted--as well as a symbol of hope. Thanks!
Radbooks · 24 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
Very enjoyable chapter. I seldom think of all of the 'legal' stuff surrounding Aragorn taking the throne even though I know it would have taken place, so it's fun to speculate about what might have occurred. I'm sure there were quite a few people that were not happy about him taking the throne, though I like to think that eventually they were converted to his side! :) I loved this line: 'this new King of theirs would realize just how sufficient a jewel Faramir was and would treasure him as a helpmeet in the act of rule.' I loved that you took the meaning of Faramir's name - sufficient jewel - and used it like that!! Very nice idea.
Author's reply
I'm not certain just what draws me to legal aspects of the story, but you know it does draw me. And there must have been at least SOME wrangling, although, as with you I suspect that the vast majority found themselves delighted with the new regime. And I found I had to work the meaning of Faramir's name into the story somehow, I found. Am so glad it pleases you. Thanks!
shirebound · 24 May 2008 · Chapter 5: Tokens of Honors Earned
"...It will look so right on his dark curls--and the blue sea diamond matches the color of his eyes.” Oh my, I can just see it! This is a marvelous 'back story' about the circlets, the mail, and the respect and love that went into everything gifted to the Ring-bearers.
Author's reply
Yes, there was respect and love for Frodo and Sam; and by those who themselves deserved it. And I felt it was about time to explore where the mail given Sam might have originated. Thanks so!
Antane · 23 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
"Can you not see why I consider the folk of the Pheriannath to be amongst perhaps the most dangerous within Arda, for they look not first to possibilities and impossibilities, but instead to what needs to be done, and see it through? If only Men had the same resolve!” “Some do.” Cute that Faramir would say such little beings terrify him, but isn't this why we love them - that they could care less whether something is impossible or not, if it's got to be done, it's got to be done. I thought just before I connected to the web, looking at all my lovely Frodo and Sam pictures that I have set up as a screensaver, that I have so far to go. But there are men indeed who have the resolve. Namarie, God bless, Antane :)
Author's reply
I do not think that Faramir will ever underestimate a Hobbit, not after what he's seen these four accomplish. And I believe they will ever be a positive inspiration to do his own best. As for these--they've seen enough of the mountains now to respect and honor them--but they wish mostly to go home again.
Baggins Babe · 22 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
That lord from Langstrand.....well, there's always one! Faramir certainly took charge and showed that he could be just as steely as his father when the need arose. I suppose the hobbits might be considered in that light - they may be peace-loving but they don't mess about!
Author's reply
Yes, that's for certain--there's ALWAYS one who's a major pain in the patoot! And Faramir and others realize just how capable he is. One thing I'm certain of--the Hobbits were big surprises to all! Thanks so for the feedback!
Baggins Babe · 22 May 2008 · Chapter 3: Darkness again Rising
Wow! i really felt as though I was standing on the walls of Minas Tirith, heart in mouth, waiting for the end of all things. Fantastic writing, Larner! I always think it is very fitting that Manwe's winds disperse the darkness. Even at such a time Faramir and Eowyn find time for each other, and our understanding Merry sees it and is glad. Lovely to see Merry singing with the Rohirrim, and his wonderful description of Sam, the big brother to all of them.
Author's reply
And I thank you so, Baggins Babe. Yes, Manwe's winds bring the end to the darkness at the last. And am so glad you like Merry's depiction in this chapter.
Nilmandra · 21 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
I like the idea of them wondering about whether this new king would marry and who. I would doubt they foresaw and elf-princess! LOL.
Author's reply
Yes, I think it was quite a question as to whom this new King would marry--with this new regime they can't have an open succession to look forward to. And I doubt any of them foresaw Elrond's own daughter. As for Aragorn and those in the know--none of them would be likely to tell ahead of time. Heh!
Raksha The Demon · 21 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
A wonderful chapter! I loved the portrayal of Faramir as he steps into his father's shoes to do what his father would not and could not do; declare Aragorn's claim to the throne of Gondor. Faramir's adroit-yet-steely performance, followed by his very realistic relief at Hurin's approval, rings true here. In a way, it saddens me - what a great Ruling Steward Faramir could have been; had Aragorn perished at the Black Gate. But that's not how Tolkien wrote it; and we have the consolation of knowing that Faramir will make a mighty advocate and helper for the King, and also speak up if he disagrees; not to mention leading the Council efficiently in the King's absence. Faramir offers some very astute observations about the hidden strength and power of the hobbits. Faramir's aunt sent him some material suitable to make new clothes for the soon-to-be-crowned King? Thinking about one of my own stories, I'm wondering how closely Faramir has examined that material! Oh well, they can always raid Denethor's closet, or Faramir's own, or Imrahil's (he must have some spiffy outfits in a townhouse in the City) to provide proper robes for Isildur's Heir...
Author's reply
Thanks so, Raksha! Faramir is truly showing his mettle; and I do think that Aragorn realized this one's worth from the moment he awoke with the King's title on his lips. And although it may sadden us that Faramir didn't have the chance to prove himself as Ruling Steward, I doubt he was displeased. And Aragorn would expect him to speak against anything he disagrees with, and would expect that honesty from him. If you're speaking of the orange outfit from that horrid calendar painting--HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEE! Yes, I think that Aragorn would do well to request something ready-made in that case! And those wonderful leathers from the film have become such a part of my visualization of Aragorn's wardrobe!
ecrm · 21 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
Another interesting legal argument is this: Isildur committed Gondor to the Heirs of Anarion and at the time of Arvedui there was still an heir in the direct male line surviving. With the death of Earnur the House of Anarion, became, to all extents and purposes extinct. Therefore the Crown of Gondor by right reverted back to the senior branch. Love the story and looking forward to the next chapter.
Author's reply
A most worthy argument, ECRM. Thanks for the added idea! I may indeed use that in any debate Alvric might have with future students. And thanks so for the feedback.
Andrea · 21 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
Langstrand? Never heard of it! In my opinion that man from Langstrand would only be content if all remained as it was, like Denethor said to Gandalf. And *that* is impossible! Faramir obviously had long discussions with Merry about his cousins, Sam and the Shire. And from what he tells Hurin you can see his admiration for the Shirefolk. “So,” Húrin said, delighted, “then the Pheriannath are not all perfect beings, are they? Spying, was he?” LOL!!! No, they are not perfect, but they are very determined and selfless when it comes to solve a problem. And that makes them dangerous, you're quite right. No one wishes to begin a task that is deemed impossible. That is very true! And still, Frodo did it. He is a remarkable hobbit. Although, I'm quite sure he would not agree with me if he read what I wrote ;-)
Author's reply
Langstrand is shown on Tolkien's maps of Middle Earth to be along the west coast of Gondor. And I suspect many of the minor lords particularly would have preferred to keep the status quo as well. Merry was in Minas Tirith for some time, recovering from the Black Breath and awaiting word on the situation with his fellow Hobbits. We know that Faramir spoke with him regarding Eowyn; that he spoke with him about Merry's own concerns, more about the nature of the Ringbearer and Sam and Pippin, and so on, just seems likely. No, I doubt Frodo would agree with our belief in how extraordinary he was for anyone of any race. And to find that Hobbits will spy on one another must have tickled Faramir's and Hurin's fancies. Heh! Thank so for the feedback, Andrea.
Kitty · 21 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
Interesting discussion, Larner. You just filled another gap left by the Professor. I felt a certain pity for Faramir and Erchirion to have to argue with people like this lord from Langstrand! But of course, there had to be a few of such. Galador's trouble at learning Aragorn is still bachelor reminded me so of the 'rustic Dúnedain maiden' and made me smile. It is always so nice to have these reminders of the other stories! (Like the mentioning of Alvric in the other chapter) Ah, it is so gratifying to read Faramir's praise for the Hobbits! And when put so, I have to agree the hobbits could seem to be dangerous creatures. Hadn't really thought about that before, but Faramir is right! And of course, I suspect Húrin was right about Boromir. He'd have been bored to death to have to sit always in the Citadel and rule, instead of being in the midst of the action! And now I finally know where Aragorn got his formal robes so suddenly ;-) You've thought of everything! Btw, I doubt Halladan would talk about himself as 'Lord Halladan' here: Halladan now joined himself fully to the discussion. “Many are sorely wounded and should not move from their current camp. Certainly the Ringbearers are yet deep in healing sleep as Lords Halladan and Faramir have indicated
Author's reply
I'm so glad you feel this is a good gapfiller. Yes, there are always those like this lord from Langstrand who wish things never needed to change at all. And you know how I LOVE to weave my stories together. The fact that Hobbits can be so single-minded does make them singularly formidable, I think. So glad you agree with Faramir. And thanks so for the catch. You're the first one to catch this one. Gads--so many have been through it and we all missed that! Heh!
shirebound · 21 May 2008 · Chapter 4: A Crown Claimed
Faramir's assessment of everything is so thoughtful and logical, none can dispute him. And of course I love the conclusions he's drawn about the hobbits.
Author's reply
Faramir, we're told by the Master, was one who read the hearts of others truly; and his logic is, I think, quite considered. And I'm so glad you like his thoughts on Hobbits! Thanks so for the feedback, Shirebound.
Antane · 20 May 2008 · Chapter 3: Darkness again Rising
We have victory! :) Sam as big brother. :) And everything else he was too. Bless the dear one. No wonder he was born a gardener for he is so nurturing and no wonder he was such a wonderful father to take all of the flowers in his garden and home, including the one he called master. Namarie, God bless, Antane :)
Author's reply
Yes, victory indeed, and Sam is everyone's nurturing brother in the end! Thanks so for the feedback, Antane.
Linda Hoyland · 19 May 2008 · Chapter 3: Darkness again Rising
I loved the image of Merry leading the Rohirrim in song and your description of the great moment when the Ring is destroyed.
Author's reply
Oh, I'm so glad you like it--and it was fun to find a way of melding movie-verse into this one, at least a bit! Heh! And that moment when the Ring was destroyed must have been widely felt. What could it have meant to those who had no idea of what was going on in the wider world?
Linda Hoyland · 19 May 2008 · Chapter 2: Reorganization
Halbarad's death was a true tragedy which you convey well. I love Faramir's optmism.
Author's reply
I'm so glad you feel I did well with this, Linda. He gets such short mention in the original, after all. And I do think Faramir would feel optimistic after waking to find himself recognizing the King Returned. Thanks so much!
Grumpy · 18 May 2008 · Chapter 3: Darkness again Rising
I too think that Aragorn would like some falcons for company. I can see that one must be very careful in the house of healing, if one does not want to spend a few hours listening to Mistress Ioreth.
Author's reply
Oh, I rather think he would. Peregrine falcons have been known to nest on ledges of buildings in Seattle and New York, and probably other cities as well; I was to include a birds nest, a lantern, and a misunderstanding into this story--well, you can see where I put the birds nest! Heh! As for Ioreth, I decided to put her at her chattiest in this story! She's a bit steadier if still talkative in "The King's Commission"!
grumpy · 18 May 2008 · Chapter 2: Reorganization
Totally enjoying your story, love seeing the behinds the scene sort of thing. Poor Halbarad, a sad thing for his brothers and Aragorn. Liked how Elrohir and Elladan can speak up for Aragorn, and just think they dandled on Valandil's knee.
Author's reply
Halbarad obviously meant a good deal to Aragorn, even if we had so little detail in the original. There must have been a good deal of grief at his death, even if it must be controlled in order to focus on what needs doing next. Looking at the Tale of Years, it's likely that Valandil was able to see the twins as babes in arms--wouldn't you think he'd have enjoyed playing with them as infants? That they'd stand up for Aragorn and his interests and seek to give folks a historical perspective of their acceptance of their foster brother as THE Heir to Elendil and Isildur just seems so probable. Thanks so for the feedback.
Agape4Gondor · 18 May 2008 · Chapter 3: Darkness again Rising
Very nice chapter all the way around... this is a good tale!
Author's reply
Thank you so very much, Agape. I'm honored.