Hope's Endurance by Kara's Aunty
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Kats
· 9 October 2011
· Chapter 4: Reunion!
Those poems are so adorable! I love the relationship between Frodo and Sam, and you really show both of their sweet personalities. The "Gray Havens" chapter always breaks my heart...but it's wonderful that they get together at last in Valinor. That's just like Tolkein, to make an ending both incredibly sad and beautifully happy at the same time! You did a good job showing both emotions and I liked the rhyming. I could imagine two people performing this piece, going back and forth.
Antane
· 21 November 2008
· Chapter 4: Reunion!
Oh dear cousin mine
Who writes so well of hearts entwined,
I thank ye very much
For this latest in a bunch!
For such a beautiful love song
of Joy awaited so long
This is great
Well worth the terrible wait!
Now let me express
Namarie and God bless!
Author's reply
Hello dear Cousin,
What a treat to read your poetic review - I accept it with the honour it was given! And I'm humbled that you took the time to compose this little masterpiece of your own (and flattered beyond belief that you did).
I am delighted beyond measure that you approve, my little Imp!
Thanks for all the reviews - and all the inspiration :)
Cousin Mo x
Celeritas
· 19 November 2008
· Chapter 4: Reunion!
No one has a clue as to how Frodo and Sam found healing in the West, and that's the marvel of it! Fan fiction can be so much fun at times...
I do like to think of Sam's speech and vocabulary improving over the years--for one thing I think that thirteen children would have necessitated an increase of ones denoting frustration!
Ah. This is the last Eucatastrophe in a tale so fraught with sorrow.
Author's reply
Hello Celeritas,
Indeed: the last in a tale so fraught with sorrow, so you can imagine who jappy I am to be finished writing them (they were quite depressing at times).
But they're done and dusted now!
Sam would have been one of the most educated hobbits in the Shire by the time he left, indeed, but the word still felt a bit odd to use (for any hobbit actually - 'extract' doesn't strike me as very hobbit-ty).
Thanks for reading and reviewing throughout this tale!
M :)
shirebound
· 19 November 2008
· Chapter 4: Reunion!
Lovely, as always. Especially...
Whatever’s next your Sam’s prepared
As long as I can turn and see
Your glowing Light is next to me
If you're interested, I wrote a story exploring my own idea as to what form Frodo's healing took, which is at this archive: "The Path to Healing". Two others are "Sing Me Home" and the AU "Healed".
Author's reply
Hello Shirebound,
Thanks (as always) for reading and reviewing, I'm glad you enjoyed!
I'll need to give your healing fics a visit to see what you think happened to our trusty hobbits in Valinor!
Thank you for your support and all the best to you!
M ;)
Larner
· 19 November 2008
· Chapter 4: Reunion!
Sam is far more knowledgable than he appears, I think. He's had years to read and write and expand on his vocabulary, I think. After all, it's been forty years since he last saw his Mr. Frodo.
And the two of them must have been so happy to spend their final days there in that beautiful place, together.
Author's reply
Hi Larner,
yes, Sam is surely nobody's fool! Especially after his trials, not to mention the company he keeps and his own life experiences (and many they were).
I'm sure Sam & Frodo spent the rest of their days in a blissful haze on Tol Eressea. May we all be as lucky one day!
Hope you liked it! Thanks for reviewing.
M :)
Celeritas
· 15 November 2008
· Chapter 3: Across the Great Divide
Oh, I liked the last stanza! : )
And I also enjoyed how this was a not-quite conversation, since they don't know what the other is saying but their currents of thought run along the same lines. Frodo's greying hair also brought a smile to my eyes (I have shored up in my list of little moments in Eressea some point at which he sees himself in a mirror/convenient still pool of water and goes, "I'm grey?!?" not realizing how much time has gone by).
The stark reticence of the stanza about Bilbo's death, though, especially the last line, made it probably my favorite out of all the moments in your poetry so far. He still sounded quite shocked and numb!
Cheers!
Author's reply
Hello Celeritas,
Oh I AM glad you enjoyed the last stanza. I was feeling quite Tookish when I wrote it and thought it a good way to bring a little reality to the situation (after some of the earlier emotional stanzas). Although I was afraid it might ruin it for some readers. Sometimes though, you've just got to take chances.
It was a bit strange writing this, because I went from the wistful beginning, to moments of (I hope) humour, to sudden tragedy, then humour, etc, etc. But it all worked out in the end - and I'm glad the lonely pocket watche has company in your good wishes.
Thanks for the lovely review!
Maureen :)
Antane
· 15 November 2008
· Chapter 3: Across the Great Divide
Oh, thank you, my dear cousin! So excited to hear another song from them through you! Love it and how they echo each other as it were. You are so kind to indulge me. *hugs* Can't wait for the next one! :) :)
Namarie, God bless, The cheeky imp :)
Author's reply
Hello Imp,
I'm delighted you approve! I deliberately wrote each verse that way, so it would seem as if they were having a conversation, even though it was, of course, impossible during their long separation.
The next one way be a few days away because I need to finish 'Much Ado...' which is currently swinging around my neck like an albatross (I also think the final poem will be the most difficult to write as my knowledge of Valinor is non-existent, so I'll have to research).
So you'll need to exercise your (non-existent) patience (cackles madly).
I know, I'm very naughty!
See you cuz,
Aunty Mo.
Larner
· 14 November 2008
· Chapter 3: Across the Great Divide
Yes, a long and happy life, and now reunion to come--for both of them that last blessing. How difficult it must have been when Bilbo left Frodo.
So very sweet a tale.
Author's reply
Hello Larner,
Poor Frodo indeed, without Bilbo. The comparison of his loss to Sam's growing brood was something I thought required attention.
Thanks for your welcome words!
Maureen :)
shirebound
· 14 November 2008
· Chapter 3: Across the Great Divide
Dear Sam your boat it sails to me!
I sense your journey over Sea
I hope that's exactly how it happened!
Author's reply
Hello Shirebound,
I hope that's how it happened too. I thought if Frodo sensed Rosie's death, he may have been aware of Sam's journey to Valinor. Perhaps he wasn't, but it's a nice thought.
Thanks for reading and reviewing!
Maureen ;)
Andrea
· 14 November 2008
· Chapter 2: My Dearest Sam
Hi Maureen,
gerne darfst Du meinen Limerick benutzen! Aber gegenüber Deinen Gedichten war meins doch eher simpel.
In other words: Of course you can :)
Author's reply
Toll, toll, toll!
M :)
Andrea
· 14 November 2008
· Chapter 2: My Dearest Sam
Wow! Both of these poems were marvellous!
I saw the GTL (nice word) at once and it fit in so perfectly that I had to stop and admire it :) It looked so easy, but I'm quite sure it wasn't.
In my opinion the metre is not so important (as you might have guessed from my first attempt at writing a limerick).
So, thank you very much for posting!
Author's reply
Hello Andrea!
I'm so pleased you enjoyed both the poems. Trying to capture these moments between the two can be a little difficult at imes, if I'm searching for a word that will have something (sensible) to rhyme with it and still stay in meter.
And if I can accomodate a GTL into the stanza - as long as it doesn't throw the meter off too much - then all the better! So thank you for admiring it!
And thank you very much for posting a review. They are always gratefully received!
Bis bald,
Msureen :)
P.S. Ist es schon in ordnung wenn ich dein limerick benütze?
Larner
· 14 November 2008
· Chapter 2: My Dearest Sam
A delicate joy to read.
A bit movie-moment here, I see, as in book-verse Sam understands from the moment he sees they are joining the Elves heading westward just where Frodo is going--not to Rivendell to remain there, but to the Havens and beyond.
The inclusion of that GTL was perfect--don't worry about it!
Have been working in my head on such a dialogue--actually, more a monologue, actually. When it comes to be written I hope it pleases you. But I have so MANY stories going at the moment! Aargh!
Author's reply
Hello, Larner,
thanks for your feedback - it's always welcome.
Actually, this is not supposed to be movie-based at all. When I wrote it I had just read the bit in ROTK where Sam & Frodo come upon the Elves and Bilbo, who awakes from a nap and upon seeing his nephew says:
'Hullo, Frodo! Well I have passed the Old Took today! So that's settled. And now I think I am quite ready to go on another journey. Are you coming?'
This poem is supposed to start from that moment onwards, as they journey towards and eventually arrive at the Grey Havens, with Sam trying to come to terms with his unexpected loss on the way there.
But if it comes across movie-momentish, then I've obviously put an inappropriate word in somewhere. Oh well, too late to change it now!
It was difficult to write, because their parting is full of such raw emotion. But I am glad you enjoyed reading it nonetheless.
Maureen :)
P.S. Hope your shift passed pleasantly!
Celeritas
· 13 November 2008
· Chapter 2: My Dearest Sam
Wow, I wasn't expecting a continuation of this!
Sam realizing that he had to let Frodo go was beautiful--and I am firmly convinced that the reason he did so much living during his life was that he was living for two.
The notion of Frodo setting Sam free by his departure, however, is a lot more subtle and I'm glad you picked up on it. While care for him was a glad burden on Sam, it was a burden nonetheless and would have kept him from achieving all that he was meant to--in other words, I agree with Frodo there.
And good for Frodo to dash short the idea that Sam should follow him right then and there and leave his wife (whom I should add he is sworn to) and daughter behind. Heavens!
I see the "in progress" status on this tale now... what else do you have in store for us?
Author's reply
Hello there,
I had to laugh at this bit: 'Wow, I wasn't expecting a continuation of this!'
Neither was I! But I think the first part put Antane in a happy frenzy and she's been sending me plot bunny pleas ever since, so I relented (she's very persuaaive) and desided to do a four-parter to fit them all in.
There are two left for this particular 'poetic story' and they may both be in the same dialogue format (grimaces slightly - not that I'm not happy about it, but readers may get tired of it rather soon and start tuning out. Still, we'll wait and see what happens.)
Yes, I think Frodo's dependency on Sam was as much a burden (albeit lovingly carried) on our gardener, just as Sam's need for Frodo to get well was a burden on Baggins Jnr. Only their love for each other may have kept the illusion of 'normality' going for as long as it did after the Quest.
Yes, good old Frodo for telling Sam to stay. Not that I think he would have left, because he was married with a wee one and another on the way. I think that was what was tearing him apart - the unexpected situation he found himself in and the fact he knew he couldn't leave his Rose - but couldn't bear to lose his Frodo either. Poor sod!
Anyway, this is turning into the Never Ending Review Reply, so I'll pop off and give you peace.
Hope you liked it!
Maureen :)
shirebound
· 13 November 2008
· Chapter 2: My Dearest Sam
My Sam you show such love for me!
This willingness to set me free
How truly loving.
The Grey Havens make me sad, too, which is why I write so many "happy hobbits in the West" stories. I need them to ease my heart!
Author's reply
Hello Shirebound,
Yes, I find the parting of the two really depressing and usually give any Grey Havens fics a massive body swerve.
Sam's life between parting and reunion I can handle, because he finds his joy again in family. But (and I'm slightly embarrassed to admit it) even their reunion in the West is at times too bittersweet for me because it means their lives are almost over and an era truly dies with them. (Although one of their initial meeting and joy is fine because I know they have a wee while yet before they toddle off to Hobbit Heaven - so if your stories of the West are about happy hobbits, I'll need to give them a once over!).
Perhaps I'm an emotional coward.
I wouldn't have written 'My Dearest Sam' if it were not a request (and I found it emotionally taxing), but if a good few like you enjoy it, it was worth the while.
Thanks (as always) for your kind reviews!
Maureen :)
Antane
· 13 November 2008
· Chapter 2: My Dearest Sam
Never say never, dear cousin! And I do have the cheekiness of a Took - thank you very much! :) - because I am Pippin in the circle of my friends - Frodo and Sam being already taken.
This is a heartacher for sure and I am just a little teary-eyed which is a tribute to Sam's agony here and to you, but there he is at the end Hope Unquenchable as always. The poor dears, but they will realize after the pain fades at bit, that this is just a physical separation. It will be long before they can hold each other in their arms, but they can always hold one another in their hearts. They aren't really apart.
Looking forward to more! You are too good to me - and to all of us!
Namarie, God bless, Your cheeky cousin :)
Author's reply
Hello Aunty,
Goodness, are you home early today? - that was a fast reply!
Again the pleasure was mine and if you liked it it was worth the work.
I'm sure the bittersweet parting of the two will bring its own rewards to each in the end.
Always a delight to hear from you!
Aunty Mo :)
Antane
· 12 November 2008
· Chapter 1: Oh Mister Frodo
Oh, my dear!! You have really outdone yourself! This is so wonderful. *hugs and more hugs*
Mister Frodo I’ll keep it well
Your wounds and pain will soon dispel
I’ll trim the fears and clip the doom
And soon inside you Joy will bloom
I love this whole thing but that's my favorite! Spoken just as the gardener he was - nuturer of flowers and plants and his dearly beloved master's heart. I wish it was indeed true - that Sam's love was able to heal such deep wounds, but only Divine Love could do that. But I love that this shows once more that if there's anything more stubborn than a Baggins, it's a Gamgee looking after a Baggins. Truly was Frodo loved back from the brink and it gave Love a chance to work in the West. What a masterpiece!
Namarie, God bless, Your Scottish cousin :)
Author's reply
Hello Aunty Anne!
I am truly thrilled that you like it so much. Especially as I dreamt about you last night (actually, it was a review from you in response to 'Oh Mr Frodo' I dreamt about)! The dream-review went something like this:
Hello Aunty,
I've seen the poem I asked for. I had thought to see Sam telling Frodo how exactly he'd save him, like the cooking he would do for him. I'm a bit disappointed, to tell you the truth.
Namarie, Aunty Anne
A real nightmare, eh? I woke up thinking...well you don't want to know what I woke up thinking. Suffice to say I was sweating buckets!
But you like it!! Oh the sweet, heady Joy! (The enormous sigh of relief!). I'd actually posted it last night (2300 hours GMT), but there's obviously a time difference between the west coast of Scotland and your own fair land so you may have been sleeping.
Of course, this poem is only one of a number of interpretations that many thousands of people may have of that struggle. It would be interesting to read someone else's. The same events from a different perspective can sometimes seem like a fresh tale. Maybe someone will post their own version. But until that time, this will do.
I am glad you enjoyed it (and am still blushing from your lovely comments). It delights me to know it made you happy!
All the best,
Aunty Maureen :)
Eléon Gamgee
· 12 November 2008
· Chapter 1: Oh Mister Frodo
Oh, gosh! I love this!! It makes me sad and happy and...Oh, precious Sam!! ::hugs Frodo and Sam immensely:: I miss them both so much now!!
Author's reply
Greetings Eléon!
Your review is just a treat to read. I'm delighted that it provoked such a response!
Give Frodo and Sam a hug for me too, for they seem to have wandered off...
Thanks again!
Maureen :)
Linda Hoyland
· 12 November 2008
· Chapter 1: Oh Mister Frodo
Just delightful!
Author's reply
Hello Linda!
I thought I'd replied to your review, but apparently not, so please excuse my tardiness!
Thank you for your lovely words. You are delightful too, for sending a sweet review. (It was just pure luck that last sentance rhymed!).
Thanks again!
Maureen :)
eiluj
· 11 November 2008
· Chapter 1: Oh Mister Frodo
I loved Sam in this. He had an argument to counter everything Frodo said.
Author's reply
Hello eiluj,
Yes, good old Sam. He knows exactly how to talk his Frodo round and make him see sense (thank goodness).
Thanks very much for the review - I'm glad you liked my Sam!
Maureen :)
Larner
· 11 November 2008
· Chapter 1: Oh Mister Frodo
I, too, have seen the debate there at the gates of death. Poor Frodo--outnumbered! And that done solely in love of him!
Very nice, Aunty!
Author's reply
Hello Larner,
Poor Frodo really didn't have a chance - what with Strider's kingly 'magic' and Sam's sheer stubborness!
But thank goodness they 'ganged up' on him or Middle Earth would have been an emptier place!
Thanks (as always) for your kind words.
Maureen :)
shirebound
· 11 November 2008
· Chapter 1: Oh Mister Frodo
Although I very much doubt hobbits would use a word like 'sin', you really are a marvelous poet. The love between these two is so obvious.
Look in your heart. Your Sam is there!
Awwwww. :)
Author's reply
Hello Shirebound,
Thank you very much for your (very) flattering words. Marvellous poet? (blushes).
I think Sam and Frodo shared such a great bond that it defied Death itself - at least it did directly after Sauron's fall. Imagining what they would say to each other when Strider was trying to save them was not too difficult (I expect most of us can imagine that fairly well!) - finding 'rhyming' words to use (and still have the poem make sense) was more of a challenge!
I'd have to (respectfully) disagree with you about 'sin' though - It's not perfect, but I think it more likely to be used by a hobbit than some words I've seen used (e.g. - 'sure' instead of 'of course'/'certainly'; 'mad' instead of 'angry'; 'pretty' instead of 'quite'/'very'; 'couple' instead of 'couple of' - all far too modern for Shirefolk). :)
Let me say 'thank you' again for your lovely review. It's always a treat to hear from you.
All the best,
Maureen :)
Celeritas
· 11 November 2008
· Chapter 1: Oh Mister Frodo
Holy-- [not translated from the Westron].
That was astonishingly good--I am a bit of a sucker for dialogue poems and this worked out very well.
For me the most powerful part was the bits where Sam says the poetic equivalent of, "Fine, then, I'm coming with you" and Frodo immediately balks. That really is the way to get Frodo to do anything at this point.
But if I stay and you depart
I’ll still be losing half my heart!
*sniffle*
Thanks so much!
Author's reply
Hello Celeritas,
I'm blushing at your (truly) fabulous review. I hadn't intended to post anything for a few days but your review of 'His dear, bleved...' made a very good point and Antane asked me earlier this evening if I could expand on it.
So, actually, perhaps I should thank YOU!
Sam is a bit of a crafty devil when it comes to his Frodo - he knows exactly which buttons to press.
Thanks again, both for the review AND the idea!
Maureen :)
Rhyselle
· 11 November 2008
· Chapter 1: Oh Mister Frodo
Oh, I love this even more than the first one! Lovely, lovely work!
Author's reply
Hello Rhyselle,
thanks very much! I'm really glad you enjoyed it so much and am currently smiling fit to burst!
Thanks :)
Maureen :)