Once Upon a Blizzard by Fiondil
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Eruherdiriel
· 20 July 2014
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Awww. The last bit with young Legolas was really adorable.
I think you made Beregond rather emotionally unstable. He reminded me of a young reborn. Why did you do that?
~Eruherdiriel
Author's reply
Hi Eruherdiriel. Hmm... you have to understand that Beregond is young, perhaps in his early twenties, and he is the only Mortal in Gil-galad's tent that night. The youngest Elf there is probably Gil-galad and he's close to five hundred years old. Yet, given the time period, Beregond was probably considered an adult by Mortal standards by the time he was fifteen or sixteen. Even so, he's still hasn't reached a level of emotional maturity that would allow him to dismiss Nambarauto's slurs against Finrod, who is his hero. So if he seems emotionally unstable, he's not really, just young, surrounded by immortal beings, some of whom remember times before the rising of the sun and moon, some of whom probably remember Cuiviénen. I hope that clears things up for you. Thanks for reading and reviewing.
ElvenRanger
· 20 October 2013
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Great story. I think Beregond's character was really well-written. Also, the description of Gil-galad throwing him out of the tent "casually" gave such a funny image I couldn't stop laughing for five minutes.
Author's reply
Glad you enjoyed this story, ElvenRanger. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it. I like Gil-galad here, too. He's pretty cool.
6336
· 28 January 2009
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This was interesting, to hear Finrods discovery of the Edain from their point of view.
It could have been summer when they came over the mountain, who knows how long they were encamped before they were found.
Somebody needs to teach Namburato and Linder how to listen quietly.
I wonder how long it took Eonwe to realise that mixed troops did better?
Good to hear that Beregond survived and made it to Numenor with Elros, what happened to Namburato, did he make it back to Aman under his own steam or by way of Mandos?
Keep them coming,
Lynda
Author's reply
You may well be correct about when Bëor and his people made it over the mountains. It could have been summer at the time, but it was late autumn before Finrod found them. The Nandor that he encountered along the way spoke of strange beings that had entered Ossiriand without really saying just how long they'd been there.
I don't think it took Eönwë too long to figure things out. He's not Manwë's Herald and Chief Maia for nothing. I suspect that after the first few sorties when the body count started getting higher than it should have been he realized that there had to be changes or none of them would survive.
I have no idea what happened to Nambaurato but I think he survived the war and returned safely. Thus, he would have been on hand when Finrod was released from Mandos. Perhaps he was one of those in Arafinwë's court who gave Finrod the cold shoulder when the ellon first returned to Tirion. Who knows? If I ever find out, perhaps I'll write about it.
Radbooks
· 19 January 2009
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Oh, yes, a very, very nice Gil-galad story! It would have been very intimidating for a man to sit there and tell a story to elves... especially a story like that and to know they are making sure you have all the facts straight. I'm really, really glad that Beregond got a few licks in on Nambaurato! He deserved everything he got. :) I liked the twist at the end where it was a story Thranduil was telling to Legolas... that was a surprise!
I was trying to remember back to when I first started liking Gil-galad so much and of course it's always so hard to pinpoint it. I think it may have been with Nemis's stories on ff.net. I really, really like him in Nilmandra's, but I don't think I read those until later.
Author's reply
I knew you would like this one, Radbooks. I was even thinking of you when I wrote it, knowing how much you like Gil-galad. *grin*
The rules of the Teitho challenge require that Legolas and/or Aragorn have to be in the story somewhere. They don't have to be the main characters but they have to at least be mentioned by someone, so that is why he appears at the end with his ada. This really is a story within a story within a story... sort of like one of those nested dolls. *grn*
I've not read any of Nemis's stories. I will have to check her out. I liked Nilmandra's take on Gil-galad as well.
Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.
Independence1776
· 19 January 2009
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"Some of the Elves from Aman had sneered at the thought of allowing any of the Edain leadership roles in the army. However, the Beleriandic Elves, Sindar and Noldor alike, had made it a point to include the lords of the Edain, few though they were, in all deliberations." I am truly not surprised. The ones from Aman had no idea of what had occured.
"Also, I think I can speak for all here that this will be the first time we have ever heard this tale from the point of view of the Edain." The best reason to hear.
So it isn't just Finrod with his creative punishments...
"Tell that to the Belain, my friend. Aman is as paradisaical as you will ever find in this world, but Lord Manwë does like his snow — lots of it." *laughs* Now I'm picturing snow mounded taller than the Elves.
"'He may have been a king, as you say, but he could not have been a good ruler, considering what he did.' [. . .] 'He got himself killed for an Adan,' Nambaurato retorted with a dismissive sneer. 'He got himself killed for no good reason when we....'" And once again the inherant assumption of the Amanians that they were superior to anyone who hadn't lived there rears its ugly head.
Very glad Gil-Galad gave corrected his assumption.
"Of all the Firstborn, he saw the worth of the Edain and rejoiced, for you were more than any had expected and we who have fought the long defeat honor the sacrifices your people have suffered for our sake." Again, something the Elves of Aman don't understand, for they have never been at war before now.
The little bit between Legolas and Thranduil at the end was precious.
Author's reply
Nambaurato really has no clue about what the Elves and Edain suffered in Beleriand. He's only been in Beleriand himself for seven years and has not had time to learn anything save how to stay alive. He may even be regretting coming at all at this point. Hopefully, by the time he leaves Beleriand (by ship or by grave) he will have learned differently.
I'm glad you liked the ending. Thanks for reviewing. You know how much I enjoy reading your reviews. The longer the better. *grin*
Sitara
· 18 January 2009
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You know, it was crystal-clear who wrote this beautiful story from the moment it was posted on Teitho contest site. "wide grin". After waiting nearly a month, I'll take the chance to write down a couple of my thoughts I had reading it. Oropher from Doriath? "That" Oropher? The ruler of Greenwood who resented to join his troops with the High King of the Noldor and submit to his leardership (I don't even want to think who were the ones responsible for that "wiping tears"), the one who perished along with most of the army from Eryn Galen in the battle which ended the Second Age? I don't know much concerning Tolkien's works, beside LOTR, I'm afraid, so I believe I might be wrong.
Findarato, as a one of the Powers in Men's eyes..Huh..The Elves from Aman didn't give him too much credit, he was after all the child of third son of the Noldoran. Yet was he named the most righteous from the princes of the Eldar, not another."deep sigh" And the attitude of that Elf from Aman is for me proof that the darkness is present even in Valinor, under the watchful eye of the Valar and the Renewing is as necessary in Aman as is in Middle-Earth.
One word concerning Thranduil. If someone deserves my utmost respect, that would be Thranduil. Not only for ruling the most dangerous elven realm that remained in Middle-Earth during the Third Age (Dol Guldur and the expanding Shadow), WITHOUT wielding any Ring of Power (I refrain to make any comments about Cirdan, Galadriel and Elrond), but he did the impossible: he refrained from filling his son's heart and mind with all the hate and bitterness from the past ages.(I suppose I should keep my mouth shut, but I can't: because of those reasons, I would have gladly punched Aragorn squarely in his face for his misplaced comments regarding Thranduil's people at Elrond's Council, altough I like the Man)
And so we have the merry Elf we all know from LOTR, a fact that your story depicts perfectly.
Waiting eagerly for more, Sitara.
Author's reply
Yes, that is *the* Oropher, originally from Doriath who led a large group of Sindar out of the ruins of Beleriand to eventually settle in Eryn Lasgaalen, there intermingling with the Silvan elves who already were living there. It is a testament of Thranduil's character that he did not imbue his son Legolas with the prejudices of past ages. I always thought Aragorn's words were harsher than necessary but considering what *he* endured to bring the miserable creature Gollum to the Woodland Realm, I'm not surprised at his reaction.
I'm glad you liked this one, Sitara. Thanks for reviewing.
Agape4Gondor
· 18 January 2009
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Ah!!!! Another fine offering to your devoted readers.
I rejoice in seeing a 'different' tale from you - for though I love your other tales, when some new 'piece' of the Tolkien puzzle is attacked by you - I nod my head in appreciation of your writing skills.
Another great tale - I laughed often over the constant interruptions - very difficult for a story teller to endure - especially one as young as Beregond.
The disdain between elves and men and elves and elves and elves and everyone else is quite remarkable to me... yet I should not be surprised - the 'tradition' carries on even now as we disdain each other, country by country, sect by sect, philosophy by philosophy.
How Beregond ever continued, after the first outburst, is beyond me. I would have had a difficult time - having to now chose my words carefully - knowing a hostile audience sat before him.....
It is a shame that the tale was never finished.... Finrod Fingolfin is one of my favorite Elves.....
Author's reply
Hi Agape. I'm glad you enjoyed this 'different' tale (and it surely is). I think that Beregond's tales went as far as it was going to go considering everything else. You'll have to read the Silmarillion to find out what happened next. *grin*
I'm afraid that the disdain that is found here among the various parties is part and parcel of the Marring and can be laid at Melkor's feet, though certainly the Elves and Men have the opportunity to rise about their prejudices. Luckily, most of them do else I doubt the War of Wrath would have ended the way it did.
I don't think Beregond thought of the elves as hostile except possibly Nambaurato. Certainly Gil-galad was a calming force, keeping all parties focused on the tale the Adan was telling rather than on their pettiness in what they thought of the Edain or Finrod.
Kaylee
· 18 January 2009
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Meldonya, what a thrilling tale! *grin* And I liked Nambarauto's name. I was half wondering if it wasn't Namo in disguise, but I guess not. *winks* I loved hearing the story from the Edain's point of view! Finda as one of the Powers! Heh! Not likely, but his harp playing is wonderful isn't it? :)
(By the way, you mentioned to another reviewer that you had previously mentioned one of Legolas' brothers' demise but didn't recall where. This would be in "Dinner with Namo and Vaire" when they were telling the story of Brethilion's failed suit of Celebrian.)
~Kaylee!
Author's reply
Thanks, Kaylee. I'm glad you enjoyed this tale and thanks for letting me know which story I mentioned one of Legolas' brothers who did not survive the long siege with Dol Guldur. It was driving me crazy trying to remember but I was feeling too lazy to go look it up. *grin*
Thalanee
· 18 January 2009
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That was a wonderful tale! I loved it.
Nambaurato.. wasn´t that the elven name Namo used when he, Orome and Tulkas had their little adventure at the Laughing Vala?
*"Maybe after all that these people suffered before reaching Beleriand," Lindir suggested mildly, "this place seemed like a paradise to them and everyone knows that no paradise is touched by winter’s frost."
Nambaurato snorted. "Tell that to the Belain, my friend. Aman is as paradisaical as you will ever find in this world, but Lord Manwë does like his snow — lots of it."*
I can just picture Manwe and the Valar playing in the snow whith the rather disgruntled elves watching them: a hilarious picture.
I wonder if Finrod didn´t have a draft of his "Creative Punishments" somewhere in Middle Earth and Gilgalad got his hands on it ;-) I wonder if he knew that the Edain thought him one of the Powers...
Thranduil and Legolas sitting together in the cave with Thranduil telling stories to his little elfling was just lovely
Already looking forward to more of your stories!
Greetings Thalanee
Author's reply
Hi, Thalanee. Nambaurato is actually the Quenya version of the Sindarin Damrod. Námo chose it as his alias because of the similarity of the initial sounds in both names.
The Valar having snowball fights while the Elves look on.... that is a funny picture. *grin*
Well, Gil-galad was Finrod's nephew so I'm sure he 'inherited' his uncle's sense of humor when it came to punishments or probably heard enough about them from others to come up with his own. *grin*
I think Finrod was aware of the initial reaction to him by Bëor and his people and quickly taught them the truth.
I'm glad you liked the image of Thranduil and Leoglas together in the cave. I think it's a lovely, warm image myself. *grin*
Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate you taking the time to let me know how much you enjoyed my stories.
Alquawende
· 17 January 2009
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Another excellent story from Fiondil! :) I liked reading the oft told story of Finrod's meeting with mortals, for the first time, from an Edain's point of view, especially since Beregond was a descendant of Beor's House. Not to mention, any story that praises Finrod, I just have to read... The other thing I liked was that you brought up the issue that there could've been much conflict between the elves from Aman and the exiled Noldor, Sindar and Edain in Beleriand. Thanks for writing!
Author's reply
Thanks, Alquawendë. I"m glad you enjoyed this story. I'm sure that initially there was a lot of conflict between the Amaneldi and the Elves (and Men) of Beleriand. No doubt the Elves of Aman considered this mission a 'rescue' mission rather than a war against the Enemy. They probably considered the peoples of Beleriand to be 'poor cousins' and therefore of little worth. Naturally, they were proved wrong. *grin*
ellie
· 17 January 2009
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THe elves of Aman just don't get it, do they? I can believe that they would act with so much prejudice and that they would suffer for it in battle, too. I'm glad that Amanian lord got put in his place for the mean comments he made. I like Beregond alot. I saw much similarity between this conflict between elf and man and between Turin and what's his face in Doriath. Teh loyalty of the House of Beor is commendable indeed. Wonderful tale! I also liked Legolas enjoying his daddy time so much! Very sweet and true to life that is!
Author's reply
Hi, Ellie. I'm glad you enjoyed this tale within a tale within a tale. Beregond just sort of came full-blown into existence at the very beginning of the story; the others, except for Gil-galad, showed themselves less willingly at first, and I had the orc's own time getting Nambaurato to even tell me his name! *lol* Little Legolas with his Ada just made the whole tale that much more interesting, IMO.
Thanks for your review. I really appreciate it.
Larner
· 17 January 2009
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So, Beregond has been a named carried well and with pride by worthy Men for many generations, then? And rightfully so! And the Edain are in the end as much children of Iluvatar as are the Eldar. The Amanian Elves would do well to remember what the Elves of Beleriand already know from experience.
Author's reply
That is true, Larner. Unfortunately, most Amanian Elves will never meet any of the Edain or any Mortal period. A pity... they may have learned something to their own benefit if they had.
Sunny
· 17 January 2009
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Those Elves (and Edain) certainly have the right idea about what bad weather is for: staying inside, preferably next to a crackling fire. _They_ spend the time telling tales, _I_ would curl up with a good book – which is a tale in physical form (and an arrangement of electrons on my iLiad can arguably be described so, can’t it?), and if I also have a pot of tea and some nice snacks … Bliss!
So the Amanian Elves didn’t care to fight beside the Edain and the Elves from Beleriand, did they – until _someone_ realized that the mixed companies fared noticeably better. Which only makes sense. The Amanian elves would not have learned the bitter lessons of war that the Edain, the Sindar, the Nandor and the Exilic Noldor would now know down to their bones. For all intents and purposes the Amanians were raw recruits for all their technical skill with weapons and theoretical grasp of tactics and strategy. I suppose they _would_ have learned on their own eventually, but this way they could draw on the knowledge of their experienced fellow warriors, while also keeping the body count down.
So Beregond didn’t like the Elves being nitpicky about details? Well, neither would I have been, and just who was telling the tale, anyway?
Nambarauto certainly has a bad case of foot-in-mouth disease. An attitude such as his is certainly one that deserves to be corrected. It would be interesting to see just _how_ such an attitude correction would come to be – do you have plans for a story on that subject? I would make the assumption that the attitude correction would not be a part of a journey to the Halls of Mandos – which would be effective, yes, but not particularly interesting as a story.
And after the meeting with Nambarauto’s attitude, Lindir’s choice of music was obvious!
Author's reply
You are correct, Sunny, in thinking that the Amanian Elves, even the Noldor who never left Aman, were more like raw recruits rather than seasoned warriors. I even allude to this in "Elf, Interrupted" when Glorfindel learns that Ingwë had ordered that the Amaneldi continue practicing fighting with swords in preparation for the Dagor Dagorath because they lost so many of the elves in the first engagements of the War of Wrath, for they were not a prepared as they should have been.
It's tough telling a tale based on an historical event where the details might not be exactly accurate when some of your audience actually were present at said historical event and remember more accurately what happened. Takes all the fun out of telling a tale. *grin*
As this story takes place only seven years into the War of Wrath, which lasted forty-two years, I'm sure there were many opportunities for Nambaurato to have his attitude corrected. At the moment I have no plans for such a story but you never know what the Muse will demand. *grin*
Thanks for the review. It's much happreciated.
Kitty
· 17 January 2009
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Lovely story, Fiondil! Yes, that was the perfect occasion to huddle around a fire and tell tales.
I really liked Beregond - something that can't be said of Nambaurato, who was arrogant and rude. Somehow I hope he has a nice little encounter with a reborn Findárato in 'King of Nargothrond mode' waiting somewhere in his future *evil grin* It is so nice to know that these Edain still remember Finrod and love him so much; he certainly deserves it, no matter what certain stupid Amanians think. It is embarassing that an Adan has to defend one of the great elf lords against another elf.
The question how much the details of the story have changed reminds me of an experiment we made at school long ago: The class had to stand in a line and the teacher told the one at the one end a joke. The first one had to tell it to the second, the second to the third etc., and the last one in line had to write that what he heard on the blackboard. The result had not much to do with the story told to the first one - interesting to see how much these few lines changed in such a short time, going from one to the other. It is inevitable, I guess, that oral history gets changed in the retelling.
Oh, and I love the end, Thranduil telling the story to little Legolas during another snowstorm. And I was glad to know Beregond survived the war and went with Elros and his descendants remained faithful.
Author's reply
Hm... Nambaurato returning from the War of Wrath and encountering a reborn Findaráto in, as you say, 'King of Nargothrond mode'.... now that's an interesting plotbunny. I'll have to remember that. Thanks.
We used to play a similar game in school called Telephone where the first person whispers a message to the second person and so on. By the time the message got to the end of the line it had no connection to the original message. A perfect example of how oral tales change over time so that the tale as told has no bearing on the original historical event that inspired it.
Glad you liked the end, as well. Thanks for reviewing, Kitty. I appreciate it.
eiluj
· 17 January 2009
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And the memories of the elves are such that several thousand years later, Oropher's son is telling the tale he heard from his father.
Reading (in such cold weather that the faucets are still trickling to outwit the freeze; no snow now, but probably tomorrow) about a story being told (in snowy, cold weather) about a story being told (in snowy, cold weather) about events that may or may not have occurred in winter....
So was it snowy and cold when you *wrote* the story? *lol*
I always like to see allusions to Oropher being Thingol's kin; almost everyone seems to have missed the possibility that Oropher was related to Celeborn, if not to Thingol/Elmo/Olwë as well.
And now Legolas has older brothers! Though I spose if this is the same universe as "Tâd Edhel a Firion" they must have met a tragic end....
Author's reply
Actually it hasn't really snowed here in this part of Germany where I'm living at all but what's winter without snow? It has been very cold though, the coldest on record in over 100 years. And I've lived through enough blizzards in my life so it was easy enough to write about one. *lol*
I have always thought that Oropher and Celeborn were related to some degree even if Oropher was not related to Thingol directly.
As for Legolas and his older brothers... although this story is in the same universe as "Tàd Edhel a Firion" it does not preclude the possibility that Legolas' older brothers are still alive. They simply were not introduced in the other story. In one of my other stories (can't remember exactly which one) I do mention that one of Legolas' older brothers did meet a tragic end and was now residing in Mandos. The vagueness of Thranduil's family life as Tolkien gives it leaves much open to speculation and debate.