Larner
· 16 October 2011
· Chapter 116: The Hunt for Ingwion
Acceptance of such a loss is very difficult. Poor Ingwion will have to live without his twin for a very long time, but at least they will be reunited when the time is right for it.
Author's reply
Very true, Larner, as all of us who have ever lost a loved one knows. But at least Ingwion and his family have the comfort of knowing that Ingalaurë isn't lost to them forever but will eventually return. Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I much appreciate it.
Larner
· 16 October 2011
· Chapter 115: Ingwion Furioso
It is a terrible shock, to find that Ingil-shaped hole in the midst of himself. And he's not truly seen death before.
Author's reply
A terrible shock, indeed, Larner, and no, none of them, certainly not the younger Elves, including Ingwion, has ever truly seen death before. Thanks for reading and reviewing. It's much appreciated it.
Siiw
· 14 October 2011
· Chapter 59: Finwë in Mandos
Oops, looks like I muat have missed this reply. I meant that Manwe had only been in Mandos once before, and thought that this must be that one visit.
Author's reply
Ah, of course. And this would have been the one time before. Thanks for the clarification.
Siiw
· 14 October 2011
· Chapter 117: Aftermath
For anyone who has lost a family member, these chapters are quite painful to read. I am still amazed by the personality you give to these characters.
I actually laughed loud when I saw Marillien. If she is Marilla, it is strange that Arafinwe didn't recognize her when she took over as head cook! Maybe he was too shocked at the moment?
Author's reply
Very true, Siiw. And having suffered my own loses, it was difficult to write these chapters, though I knew they had to be written.
As for whether Marilliën and Marilla are one and the same.... we'll see. And don't forget, the Maiar, like the Valar, can change their forms so even if Marilla is Marilliën, Arafinwë might not recognize her as such.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
6336
· 14 October 2011
· Chapter 117: Aftermath
Well, this is a nice calming chapter after all the angst of the last few, having something to do is a great help, even if it is only putting butter into bowls.
Ingwe does have a lot to get organised,not the least being a furneral for Ingalure, I expect Arafinwe will be able to help with that, but he still has to arrange for the trial a long with, no doubt, a myriad other things. Poor Ingwe, not something he ever imagined having to do.
I see you are still in Evil Cliffee King mode, I need to have a word with your Muse about this!
Huggs,
Lynda
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. Yes, a little bit of calm in between the storms that are assailing these poor Elves. Sorry about the evil cliffie, but it's a tried and true way of getting people back to read more. Remember the old serials on TV where there was always a cliffie at the end of every episode? At least I don't do that! LOL! Thanks for reading and revieiwng. I appreciate it very much.
Kaylee Arafinwiel
· 14 October 2011
· Chapter 117: Aftermath
Atya,
Why is Ingwion screaming? Did he have a nightmare? =( *is worried about him* Ick...I wouldn't be surprised if he had, and now I have to wait *all weekend* to find out...*sigh*
But there were funny moments in this chapter, Atto. Particularly the ones in the kitchen with Marillien. (If Marilla isn't Marillien, Atto, you'd better have a good explanation as to why not. =P *lol*) I loved the "Yes, Amme" bits. Those were hilarious.
(And now you've made me hungry for cinnamon rolls, eggs and bacon. I want them. I do not have them. Well, maybe eggs...I'll go check. It is breakfast time after all...perhaps second breakfast. I did have a bowl of cereal but you made me hungry *again*. Somehow you always do that, lol.)
I hope that Lemenyon, as well as Ingil, will be well looked after. (Is Ingil looking after Ingil? Heh. =) Ingilince, is that what they said?)
And hopefully soon we'll see why Ingwe would ever trust Ingoldo again...
Tye-melin, Atto.
Kaylee
Author's reply
Hi Kaylee. We'll learn in the next chapter why Ingwion is screaming. I'm glad you liked the kitchen scene. And don't worry, all will be explained eventually. And I have no doubt that Lemenyon is being as well looked after as Ingalaurë. As to who may be watching over him, that will be revealed shortly. As for Ingoldo.... well, we'll just have to wait and see what comes out at the trial.
Anyway, thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much. Tye-melin.
"I saw your uncle’s eyes when he was beating me, or rather when he was watching Tulcaner beat me, they took turns you see. Anyway, I saw his expression. He was enjoying watching me suffer."
Lovely. I must say I had some understanding for Ingoldo the Rat. He is the oldest brother and according to the custom he should be the king. And by forcing Ingoldo accept the marriage of his son, moreover to accept it gracefully, Ingwë used/misused his office for resolving a family quarrel (I do not blame him for that, after few yeni I would have enough of Ingoldo arguments too), so Ingoldo has some right not to be happy. But one thing is to take or to try to take power, which should be - according him - his, the other thing is to torment people for a bit of fun.
It definitely explains his long sentence after the prank with Glorfindel. It seemed to me disproportional and I pitted him. To be exiled for such a long time in the time when his son is released from Mandos? Now I have feeling that Námo was not able to release Intarion from his care until the Rat had been safely packed away. Ingoldo should should not been allowed near any innocent Reborn including his son.
If somebody need a "nice" long chat with Námo it is him.
Author's reply
Hi Serindë. Well, as to why Ingoldo was not chosen as king, I think that comes out eventually. At any rate, Ingoldo has definitely been infected by Melkor's darkness even if he doesn't see it himself. And yes, the events here and what happens to him after Ingwë regains his throne do explain why Ingwë banished him as he did after Glorfindel's trial and you may be correct that Námo would not release Intarion until his parents were safely out of reach.
Some people who definitely deserve a little chat from Námo never get one, unfortunately. *grin*
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I quite appreciate it.
Fantasia
· 14 October 2011
· Chapter 117: Aftermath
It is going to be a long, long recovery. The aftermath sometimes is harder that the battle.
I re-read EI1 and now, a lot of comments make same. I understand better all those hint about the darkness. And Ingwon will be unstable for a lot of time, his only desire is to fade and his family won't let him do it.
Author's reply
Hi Fantasia. Yes, it will be a very long recovery, but Ingwion will recover. I'm glad in re-reading Elf, Interrupted many of the comments made by the characters now make more sense. We will see just how unstable Ingwion really is in the coming chapters and what lengths are taken to help him heal. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I much appreciate it.
ellie
· 14 October 2011
· Chapter 117: Aftermath
excellent chapter. I love the kings and how they each have provided support and guidance for the other.
Author's reply
Thanks, Ellie. I'm glad you liked this chapter, especially how the kings offer support and guidanace to one another through this troubling time. Thanks for taking the time to let me know. I really appreciate it.
Serindë
· 11 October 2011
· Chapter 92: Intarion and Lirulin in Tirion
It explains a lot. It definitely explains, how Arafinwë has became the excellent ruler, we all know from the another stories. All his self-assurance, his firm believe that he is surrounded by love, that he will muddle through .... I like the symbolisms of the crown/collar. Very true.
And I love the way the amused Valar are looking at him, while he is jumping up and down, not wanting to waste any more time, after all the time he has spent by wallowing in self pity.
Author's reply
Hi Serindë. It does indeed explain much about Arafinwë. And the symbolism of the crown/collar is probably truer than people realize and it's a pity modern leaders don't have that symbol before them. Maybe they would be better rulers if they did. Arafinwë jumping up and down is quite amusing, much like the 'hound' the Valar named him. *grin*
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I reall appreciate it.
ninqwestilmen
· 11 October 2011
· Chapter 116: The Hunt for Ingwion
Wow... that Ingwion would be unbalanced and suicidal was expected, but I never thought about him trying to do a Miriel... Poor guy, the real hard part will be when he wakes up for real and has to face this emptiness everyday. Ingwe will probably have him under 'fade-watch' for a while yet.
Oh and kudos to Intarion, he knew how to tickle his cousin's nerves just right :)
Author's reply
Hi Ninqwestilmen. Ingwion has a hard time ahead of him, reconciling himself to his twin's death. We'll see how Ingwë handles this soon enough, but you're right about having Ingwion put on 'fade-watch'. And Intarion knows his cousin all to well, which is how he was able to push his buttons. *grin*
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I really appreciate it.
Leikwalâssê
· 11 October 2011
· Chapter 116: The Hunt for Ingwion
my pile of handcherchieves are up. Poor Ingwion. I admire the royal couple how they handle their lost. The hunt for Ingwios fea was very interesting. It never occured to me that "fading" was unknown to them. The discussion among the Valar was priceless. Thank you. Lai
Author's reply
Hi Lai. Fading wouldn't be something known to the Elves of Aman at that time; it was a consequence of living in the Mortal Lands, so it became known to those who left Aman for Middle-earth. The only case of fading of which any of them would be aware would be Míriel, but none of them were present at the time so did not witness the process. Hearing about it and seeing it happening are not necessarily the same thing.
Glad you enjoyed the discussion among the Valar.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I really appreciate it.
6336
· 10 October 2011
· Chapter 116: The Hunt for Ingwion
Oh, sniffle time again!
Poor Ingwi, he must feel so lost and alone, no matter how much time he and Ingalure were apart they were always there for each other.
Ingwi and Elindis seem to be handling this a lot better than I would have thought, but then they have each other and Ingwion and their daughter. Being so much in control is a coping mechnisim(Sorry, can't spell today!) I expect once they have to stop being strong they will all collapse in tears.
I am begining to think you have stock in a tissue company, you keep on reducing us to sniffling wrecks.
Back to work today,
Huggs,
Lynda
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. Ingwë and Elindis are much older than Ingwion and as High King and Queen they know they can't break down in public. They will have to wait until they are private. We'll be seeing in subsequent chapters how everyone is handling (or not handling) the grief they all feel.
Sorry about reducing everyone to sniffling wrecks. Unfortunately, we all knew this was coming even if we didn't know the details. But, as Ingwë, says, we'll get through it... eventually. *grin*
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I quite appreciate it.
Fantasia
· 10 October 2011
· Chapter 116: The Hunt for Ingwion
So sad, it really made me cry. I remember now that when Glorfindel was missing (EI1) and they had the Hunt, Ingwion was quite scary, something about blooding his hair and he knew and was exiting with the hunt. I will go to reread that passage now, but I remember that I was a little confused about his reaction.
Now I understand why he was unstable and was not able to go to the war. Sometimes surviving is the worst fate. He must feel so guilty, because he knew that something will happen and he couldn't stop it. Even the Valars don't understand how deep the twins are bound.
I really liked the dynamic between the Valars and the hints of the other tales. One of my favorites is the War of the Valars.
Author's reply
Hi Fantasia. Well, Ingwion was involved with the Hunt for his atar, so he knows what's invovled. And of course, we see here how unstable he has become and why. I'm glad you like the dynamics between the Valar and references to other tales. I try to link the stories in some way whenever possible. And I'm glad to know Wars of the Valar is one of your favorites. Thanks for letting mem know. I really appreciate it.
Kaylee Arafinwiel
· 10 October 2011
· Chapter 116: The Hunt for Ingwion
*winces* Oh, Atto, I'm glad that crisis was averted. Yes, the last thing they need is "another Miriel" and yet, it's a genuine reaction to poor Ingwi's grief. I'm glad they rescued him, though I'm sure Ingwi isn't =( And now I have to wait for Friday to see what Ingwi does next.
I also feel very sorry for Namo and Irmo...maybe the air needed to be cleared between those brothers as well on the issue, but then maybe they should also talk with Atar about it. Or with Nienna. Sisters make pretty good confidantes, I've found. At least mine does when she's not being all superior and such, which I don't think Nienna would do (at least, not meaning it)
I hope things will take a turn for the better in Friday's chapter...I'll have to wait and see! At least it'll be Wednesday soon!!
Tye-melin tenn' Ambar-metta, Atto! I hope your week is going well so far =)
Kaylee
Author's reply
Hi Kaylee. One crisis averted, but necessarily the last one, not where Ingwion is concerned. I'm sure the tension that the Valar are feeling has caused the two Fëanturi to have their little tete-a-tete. It can't be easy for them either, basically having to do damage control. I'm sure Nienna will take them aside and give them a good talking to if needed. *grin*
As for Friday's chapter.... that remains to be seen.
Thanks for reading and reviewing, yeldenya. Tye-melin.
Tkid
· 7 October 2011
· Chapter 115: Ingwion Furioso
I am in the middle of the food court of the nearby mall, surrounded by a thousand people, and I am trying not to bawl as Ingwe rocks his son.
Author's reply
This chapter is a real tear-jerker, that's for sure, Tkid. I hope by the time you read this you're not still bawling. *grin* Thanks for reading and reviewing. It's much appreciated.
Fantasia
· 7 October 2011
· Chapter 115: Ingwion Furioso
People reacts different to grief. But, even if I know that is wrong, I'm so glad, so glad that Ingwion had beaten Ingoldo sensesless, now we know why he is afraid of him. It is a sad chapter, I cried.
Bad times, almost everybody's dark side is coming out. And I know, I know that Arafinwë is right, but sometime is so annoying to have someone around that is always right, I don't think that his approach will do anything to help Ingwion.
Author's reply
You're right about that, Fantasia. Everyone is handling the grief differently and some are reacting badly to it. Arafinwe, I think, is speaking out of his own grief and anger. We will see how things work out over the next several chapters. This story is far from over. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I much appreciate it.
6336
· 7 October 2011
· Chapter 115: Ingwion Furioso
A very powerfull chapter, Ingwion Furioso indeed!
Oh, poor baby, you feel so very sorry for him and also for his parents and sister. Namo has done his best for both of them, now they both have to heal but in differant ways, Ingalure has the easier task in some ways but for Ingwion the way will be long and very hard to find forgivness in his heart for his uncle. Right at the moment he is so deep in shock I am surprised he is functioning, to not only loose a brother but the other half of his soul, is very hard to comprehend. It will be many, many centuries till he is healed, not until a certain Balrog Slayer of our aquantance is reborn and sets things in motion.
Once again beautifully written, now to find the tissues and have a good sniffle!
Huggs,
Lynda
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. Of course, in case people don't know Italian, _furioso_ doesn't mean "furious" but "mad, insane" and we will see this with Ingwion as the story continues (he mentions to Finrod in "Elf, Interrupted" that he was mentally unbalanced for a time which is why he was forbidden from joining Arafinwe in the War of Wrath). It will indeed by many centuries before he is fully healed and Glorfindel, Finrod and Sador will show him the way.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I really appreciate it.
Atto,
These two chapters were just as hard for me to read as they must have been for you to write. I have come to love Ingalaure and while I knew this would come, had t come, I find I still wasn't quite prepared for the wound it would re-open in my own fëa.
My grandmother passed in 2006, ten days before Christmas. It was not a quick death, but we had all been assured she would survive. We were wrong. The tumors in her lungs and brain defeated her as surely as Ingoldo's plots lost Ingil for the rest of his family. She was not just my anammë, she was a second ammë to me, so I know the pain of Ingwi's loss, even though it's not quite the same. *holds Ingwi* I'm not surprised at his anger with Námo. The four of us older grandchildren were angry with God. I wonder what Ingwi will have to say to Eru about this...but then, I've seen that conversation in EI, haven't I?
Nevertheless, despite the pain I experienced reading these chapters, I know they had to be done and I'm waiting to see what will happen next with the Vanyarin royal family. (You've actually made me have a use for Mondays, Atto.) I hope Ingoldo gets what he deserves.
*hugs Atto*
Tye-melin tenn' Ambar-metta.
Kaylee
*eagerly awaiting Monday*
Author's reply
Hi Kaylee. These past 2 chapters were not easy for me to write and I dreaded having to do so even though I knew they had to be writen. It's hard when you lose anyone and I'm sure these last 2 chapters weren't easy for many people who have experienced a loss, especially from violence. As a friend pointed out, it's okay to be angry at God, He's used to his children being angry at Him but he loves us anyway.
We'll being seeing in the next several chapters how everyone handles what has happened and eventually we'll see what happens to Ingoldo. He doesn't get off completely free, I assure you.
Thanks for reading and reviewing, yendenya. Tye-melin.
Laikwalâssê
· 7 October 2011
· Chapter 115: Ingwion Furioso
poor, poor ellon, but I can so sympazise with him. Attacking a Valar is not very smart but understandable. Hope he can find a way to go on. Swallow, swallow...thank you Lai
Author's reply
Hi Lai. We'll see as the story continues how Ingwion handles (or doesn't handle) his grief (and that goes for all the other characters). Ingwion is definitely not thinking straight here. Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I appreciate it very much.
ninqwestilmen
· 7 October 2011
· Chapter 115: Ingwion Furioso
Ingwion has jumped into the deep end of misery and continues to go down... He beat up Ingoldo, similar to what Ingalaure did, but probably much more severe. While his brother has gone to Mandos to be cleaned of that darkness, Ingiwion has the harder job, his darkness is much deeper and likely to get even more so. I wonder what happened in his lost time, did he do something even worse?
Ingalaure came through in this tale, starting off filled with insecurity and maturing to fulfill his destiny, but alas that his death, ultimately, was in vain... caused in no small part due to his own righteous anger... sad, so very sad...
Author's reply
Hi ninqwestilmen. Ingwion indeed has the harder job and it will be some time before he recovers, as well we know. I'm not sure what happened in his lost time. I suspect Namo spirited him away for a while so he wouldn't have an audience while he went off the deep end.
Ingalaure did indeed come through and fulfilled his destiny. And as Namo would say, no death is in vain, though we may not see it. And we know he returns to Life eventually, so there's a happy ending there eventually.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Sunny
· 7 October 2011
· Chapter 115: Ingwion Furioso
This was clearly the last straw for Ingwion - I am quite certain that he is not really sane right now. And it is really smart of the reat of them that they have locked Ingoldo away somewhere (at least, that is what I assume they have done) or else Ingwion would probably have been a Kinslayer just about now. Not a nice prospect.
Not a smart thing to do for Ingwion to attack one of the Valar, but I suppose that Námo half expected such a reaction - and he did try to offer comfort, but Ingwion did not seem to be able to receive that comfort at this time - probably because he was in too much emotional pain. And no wonder. His other half is now in Námo's care.
Author's reply
Hi Sunny. Obviously, Ingwion isn't sane at the moment, so his actions are... unwise, to say the least, but I think Námo understands better than anyone. We'll be seeing how things go with Ingwion as we begin to wind up this story, though it will be several more weeks before we come to the end. There is still much to tell.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I quite appreciate it.
bookworm
· 5 October 2011
· Chapter 114: A Collision of Fates
D=
I knew it was coming but still...
D=
Author's reply
I know what you mean, bookworm, and it wasn't easy for me to write this (or the next chapter) and I dreaded having to.
Agape4Gondor
· 4 October 2011
· Chapter 48: The Last Days of Light
I had chills as I read of Namo's vision!
Author's reply
As did I, Agape, as I was writing the scene. It's a very powerful vision without a doubt.
Laikwalâssê
· 4 October 2011
· Chapter 114: A Collision of Fates
I have seen it coming that it was a trap. Ingil why are you so naive? oh no! And now it has happened and Ingoldo will get away with this. Please not, don´t be so cruel with your readers. A sad but as always gripping chapter. Thank you. Lai
Author's reply
Hi Lai. Yes, it was a trap and no, Ingil is just naive enough not to foresee it, though in the end he did suspect that perhaps it was. As for Ingoldo, we will see what happens to him eventually. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I really appreciate it.