French Pony
· 31 March 2007
· Chapter 12: Affectations--Part Three
Thranduil eavesdropping? That's both amusing and kind of disturbing all at once. For sure, he got some interesting information, but he's still eavesdropping. I doubt that's the kind of thing he'd want Legolas to be doing, but at least we know where Legolas got his skills from.
I liked the story, too. It's as good an explanation as any for why the Sindar decided to elect this strange guy their king forever.
Author's reply
I think Legolas would get in a lot of trouble for eavesdropping (though we should see that happen eventually in this story and I think Thranduil is only exasperated by that detail in the overall situation), but if I were a father and came upon someone saying, "Your father wouldn't want me to talk about this with you" ... especially if that person were someone who once plotted to abduct my son's mother... I would stop and listen to get the gist of that conversation for sure. And I have always thought Thranduil understood the use of a few good spies... :-) But in the end, I think he enjoyed hearing about his father as much as Legolas enjoyed that story. :-)
I'm glad you liked the story too. You do have to wonder why they Silvan did have Oropher as a king. I love Oropher, but still it is a stretch. I can't see the Silvan as very accepting of any overbearing influence. They reject strangers pretty much out of hand according to UT. So something had to win them over. I figure the forest loved him because he loved it and that softened their hearts to him. And then he must have done something to demonstrate his leadership to them. So this was the basics. Tulus's POV. And of course Tulus loved Oropher. So there is more than just his perspective that we will eventually see. But for now, I enjoyed telling this bit. And I think it didn't hurt Tulus to have Thranduil hear that story. It certainly made Tulus appear to be a happy member of the realm.
Author Reply: I was tired last night when replying and I forgot the nost important part of the reply: Thank you so much for the review, FP--I really appreciate them. :-)
daw the minstrel
· 31 March 2007
· Chapter 12: Affectations--Part Three
Holy moly, Legolas digs his teeth in and hangs on like a terrier when he wants to know something. Tulus never had a chance. His story of Oropher's arrival was wonderful. Oropher did seem like something out of a legend, but so did Tulus and his Silvan companions. It's hard to comprehend how elves live long enough to see cultural changes like that. And Oropher certainly shines as a leader.
Thranduil as an elfling escaping his tutor made me laugh. And I enjoyed watching him watching Legolas and Tulus.
Author's reply
Hehehe! Poor Tulus actually tried to keep his mouth shut this time (a real accomplishment for him) and he still lost. I think of Legolas as very curious, even as an adult. After all, Gandalf practically had to drag him away from Fangorn. :-) So Tulus is no match for him.
I'm glad you liked Tulus's story. Tulus really admired Oropher and this encounter was the beginning of that. And I think the elves returning after all that time must have been almost impossible to believe to the people they left behind. It must have been incredible. And the changes they must have seen, indeed! Very wierd to try to imagine, but that is why I love the elves. :-)
Thranduil needs to escape every now and again, while he still can, doesn't he?
Thanks so much for the review, daw. I really appreciate it. :-)
French Pony
· 25 March 2007
· Chapter 11: Affectations--Part Two
I like Glilavan. He understands about how children want to do things just like grownups, correctly, and that they will not hurt themselves if they have proper supervision. Better to teach a child to use a weapon than leave the child to be hurt when trying to play with the weapon.
It's kind of sad that the kids feel that they have to tell Thranduil right away about how they almost got into a fight. They seem to be under the impression that Thranduil is the kind of person who wouldn't notice the difference between "almost" and "actually did," and would punish them just the same.
Author's reply
You are right. Glilavan understands exactly how kids in general want to do grownup things and how Galithil really wants to learn to use that bow in particular. And it is certainly better to teach the kid than to let them play and get hurt. No doubt about any of that.
I don't think the kids are worried about Thranduil. Brethil and Aewen are worried their dad's might hear something so they want to tell them before they do. Aewen has something to worry about in particular since the Gate Guards were watching the whole thing and report to her father, so I think she is justified in worrying that he might have questions. But as Legolas said, they didn't do anything wrong. In fact, they handled the situation really well. I think that part of this whole thing will turn out ok for them. That part, anyway. ;-)
Thanks so much for the review, FP!
daw the minstrel
· 24 March 2007
· Chapter 11: Affectations--Part Two
You know, I've always thought children are in particularly difficult positions with bullie or kids who want to start fights. The good kids know their parents would disapprove of the fighting, but what are they supposed to do? If someone my size came up and started pushing me around, I could call a cop, I guess, or run away, or fight (haha). None of those options is acceptable to kids, for whom tattling is a big deal. So I don't envy Legolas and his friends. Legolas himself comes across as quite brave.
It was interesting to see Tulus pop up again too. I'm curious to see where that's going.
Now Galithil is showing some sense and some honor, but I can see the temptation is strong. Is he also showing a little romantic feeling? :-)
Author's reply
I agree. Kids really don't have anyway they can respond that is a completely good outcome for them. I think Thranduil would have been pretty proud of how Legolas handled that situation. And he will hear about it, so he will have that opportunity. :-)
Tulus will be central from here on out, along with his son, for a while.
And poor Galithil. He really does want to do the right thing, and I agree with what you said recently somewhere (can't remember if it was in a review somewhere else online) that these people would be very serious about their word and their honor, particularly Thranduil's household. But he also really wants to be a warrior like his brother and father. It is really hard on him, poor thing. Romance? Hmmm. You will see. Maidhien likes frogs, after all. Any elleth that likes frogs has to be ok. ;-)
Thank you so much for the review, daw!
Bodkin
· 24 March 2007
· Chapter 11: Affectations--Part Two
I had to check up on Glílavan's identity. Because surely there wouldn't be many warriors who would be stupid enough to teach Galithil to use Maidhien's bow, knowing that he had been forbidden to do it. And when even Galithil knows he is employing sophistry to justify his behaviour. And, of course, Glilavan is Tulus's son. And the one who will, I fear, bury his father neck-deep in mire from which he cannot extract himself.
Aewen is a bit sanctimonious for my liking (although she might well have reason) - and Eirienil's good sense is enough to annoy pretty well any ellon into doing the exact opposite of what she wants - but she is used to dealing with - er - gentle-elves rather than Anastor and Noruil. (Mind you, she was about to give as good as she got!)
Tulus to the rescue - and it would seem that (maybe) he's not very fond of Anastor and Noruil either. Or their families. (Who have clearly taken stupid-medicine.) I hope that's what his rather scary response to them means, anyway. Rather than that he is playing a rather cleverer game than Anastor and Noruil's father.
I hope Legolas manages to get Galithil home without any trouble. But I'm not holding my breath.
It is so good to have you posting more of this story! I have so missed it - and the complicated back-story that is currently simmering gently beneath the apparently innocent activities of a collection of elflings.
Author's reply
Yes, surely only certain people would do what Glílavan did. Stupid? Certainly. But he is accomplishing exactly what he intends with this little manuever, unfortunately. Poor Galithil. He really just wants to help like his father and brother. And poor Tulus, too.
Legolas was certainly fed up with both Eirienil and Aewen by the time they left. I feel a little sorry for him, because he is right. They didn't do anything wrong. He'll end up having a good day, though, even if there are a few surprises left in it for him. :-)
It is good to be back to posting. I missed it too. Thanks so much for the review, Bodkin!
perelleth
· 24 March 2007
· Chapter 11: Affectations--Part Two
Wow! I'm so glad that you had that spring break ! :-)
now gAlithil seems to call trouble upon himself. Just when I was thinking that perhaps his adar had found an activity in which he would be responsible and serious, the girl chimes in and he is unavoidably lured into mischief and, worst, disobedience. I think that Thranduil will have to knock several heads in the coming days. The lieutenant is being really irresponsible, poor Galithil is again in trouble, and a serious one this time, because he really knows he is doing something he should not be doing... and poor Legolas sees his afternoon spoiled by everyone around him. Poor one!
NOw I am loking forward to the politics of it all!
Author's reply
I'm glad for Spring Break too, but I could already do with another one! :-) Galithil really wants to be a warrior like his father and brother. That bow is just sooo tempting and Maidhien can't imagine any good reason not to play with it. But playing with it is definitely wrong because, as you say, he knows he was specifically told not to do it. We'll see if he gets caught.
And Legolas is in for a shock or two, but he will end up enjoying this day quite a bit in the end, you will see. :-)
But there is much politics to come indeed.
Thanks so much for the review!
Idhreniel
· 20 March 2007
· Chapter 10: Affectations--Part One
Thank you for the update! Despite of the time I never forgot about your story. And how complex is your plot... and how nice are your characters!
It's great to read from you again, Elliska!
Hugs!
Author's reply
Hi Idhreniel! Good to hear from you too! I am very glad to be back and I hope to stay that way, despite how insanely busy work is. The plot will be more and more complex here soon. I have a few more chapters here and then I will break off and start a new story where the action picks up quite a bit. :-)
Thanks so much for the review!
French Pony
· 19 March 2007
· Chapter 10: Affectations--Part One
Sorry I'm late with this. I wanted to get all my term papers finished first.
I love how eager the children are to get outside, and the horror that this eagerness arouses in the parents. They're eating vegetables and wolfing down fish -- clearly something is amiss here, but the parents don't have any way to express their worry, because eating vegetables and wolfing down fish is a good thing! Caught in their own trap!
I think that going to the river and catching frogs sounds like a fine activity, but puppies could be okay, too.
And Thranduil made just the right decision -- keep the enemy close, and kill him with kindness.
Author's reply
Sorry to be late with my reply. School is quite rude to keep us both so busy. :-)
Yes, I think the children's willingness to eat those foods without complaint must have been a pretty obvious sign. :-) It cracked me up to think about parents glad the kids were eating, horrified at how and curious about why. I am often glad I am not a parent. I think it must be maddening.
Poor Maidhien has seen so little of what Legolas's other little friends get to play with regularly. She really wanted to see those puppies. Maybe she needs a kitten. There has to be some of them in the barn too. :-)
And I agree with you about Thranduil's decision. He made the only one he could, really. It will have consequences, as all decisions do. But any other decision would have brought worse ones, I think.
Thank you so much for the review, FP. I hope you got to enjoy some of your Spring Break term paper free.
Dot
· 19 March 2007
· Chapter 10: Affectations--Part One
Between you and daw, Spring Break has been a real treat for all of us! I was thrilled to see a story alert for you again :-)
I loved the opening. Those children are adorable. And completely transparent! I’m still laughing at Galithil stuffing his food into his mouth with both hands :D And Legolas throwing his father’s words back at him – kids are adorable (if smart-mouthed!) when they do that.
I kind of felt sorry for Thranduil, though, when he seemed to be the only one who wanted a little discipline. And as if that wasn’t enough, the adults then all decide to discuss his youth. Which I loved even if he didn’t ;-) I think Thranduil needs a holiday.
The responsibility of training the puppies was a good idea. These are all basically good kids and they’ll thrive if they think they’re trusted to do something that really matters.
I really just had to smile at their excitement at being free again. They’re absolutely brimming with joy. Aewen is hilarious in her disbelief that Galithil was rewarded for what she sees as complete insanity. Granted it was a mad thing to do but I guess she hasn’t realised that the intent is often what’s important and there was a lot of selflessness and bravery in his moment of madness.
You write the interaction between the children so well. They suck me right in. I was pleased to see Maidhien and was hoping they’d invite her to join them. But I thought the differing views were very realistic. They all have very real reason to dislike that family and plus at that age it can be very important to you who you’re friends with. I was glad to see it was Legolas and Galithil who made the effort. I love Maidhien herself and if they give her a chance I imagine she won’t be long winning them over.
I absolutely loved the part about catching frogs!! LOL. Maidhien seems so utterly bewildered at the thought that the girls didn’t like it and the boys are thrilled to have someone who likes the same things they do. Oh, but I did feel bad for Eirienil. She did sacrifice a lot when the rest of them were grounded. But she knows just what to say too – puppies! “Galithil likes Maidhien,” Legolas taunted in a very soft, sing-songy voice… Funny, I was thinking the same thing ;-)
The council discussion was fascinating. It’s a hard one to call, really. And Thranduil has a tough job sifting through advice and opinions to do what he thinks is best. I can see where everyone s coming from. It’s more serious than just malicious gossip and banishment seems like an ideal option – except that if there’s a grudge against the king and his family, being sent away isn’t going to soften them. Surely it makes more sense to keep them where they can be watched and where their influence can be curbed? And then there’s the children who need to be given a chance to become decent adults. But then… I don’t know, something tells me Thranduil isn’t going to find that any solution is an easy one. I really like Hallion. He is a brave elf! I thought he made an excellent point that they haven’t really done anything to help Dolwon and Dannenion adjust to life in the capital. Though again, not so easily done… And I’m still inclined to want to lock the two of them up.
Excellent chapter, Elliska. I’m eagerly looking forward to more :-)
Author's reply
Yes, I think Thranduil was feeling a little frazzled by the end of that lunch between the children, no one agreeing about discipline and then everyone enjoying making him into a child again. He liked putting them all in their place at the end. All of them but nana, at any rate. ;-)
Maidhien actually ends up having a very big role in this from here on out and is involved in some surprises, so I'm glad you like her. Right now, she has only had boys (her brother and cousins) for friends, so she likes all the types of activities they like. And unfortunately, Galithil and Anastor and Noruil have a little too much in common, so Madhien feels comfortable with him. She can't imagine anyone who doesn't like frogs. :-)
And the decision to let D&D stay or to send them away seems very simple on the surface, except that when you talk to people about it (I did to see how realistic people thought this would seem) everyone said, "Well obviously I'd do X." But X was always different, so the decision isn't so simple. Thranduil has taken Hallion's advice. It remains to be seen if doing so will turn out well in the end. Many years in the future, Hallion and Thranduil are going to discuss this conversation again and do the 'should have' thing. Locking them up would probably have solved all the problems but I can't see elves doing that (and it isn't really a medieval punishment...and it certainly would not allow my plot to advance!) ;-)
Thanks you so much for the review! I do appreciate them so much! :-)
perelleth
· 18 March 2007
· Chapter 10: Affectations--Part One
Yay! Go Spring Breaks! I cannot believe it was a year since you last updated this? Anyway you have me hooked by Galithil's antics. His character is greatly developed in this story, big heart big mouth and no connection between the two and his neruonal cells... I was snorting as Legolas had to kick his shin to make hiçim shut up for once! Yet he has a good heart indeed.
I cannot begin to tell you how glad I was to see another chapter of this I think that giving Thranduil such an exptended family is a wowonderful device, and I as well love the politics in this. I loved the stewards dutiful and brave attempt at making his lord change his mind... and Thrnaduil's reactions. lovely. I can wait for the next one patiently.
Author's reply
Breaks are wonderful!! I find so many wonderful new stories during them! ;-)
I am glad you enjoy Galithil. Poor kid does have his heart in the right place, though he might take Legolas's advice (and yours) and start thinking a bit more, as you suggested. Unfortunately, that change is going to be learned the hard way.
I know that the 'cast of thousands' is annoying to some, but I have always loved stories like that. They tend to be what I read and write because I love the possibility offered by all the different interactions. Thranduil has a lot of different view points and advice, some of it good and some of it bad. He has to choose. And when dark times start taking apart that network of support he has, he will have to learn to deal with that. I just think there is lots of potential fun in that. So I'm glad you enjoy it too. :-)
Thanks so much for the review, Perelleth. :-)
daw the minstrel
· 16 March 2007
· Chapter 10: Affectations--Part One
How nice to have you back writing, Elliska.
One of the things you've always done so well is shown in that council scene. You show the reality of debate as people voice heart-felt and reasonable positions that differ. What a job to be a king! So Thranduil decides to keep his enemies close without much hope they'll change, and these enemies have actually conspired to harm his wife. Wow. And yet, what else is he to do?
The kids are learning too. Maybe the next generation will reconcile. I hope so.
Author's reply
I like debating. And I think a good king would want to listen to his council debate a subject so he could think about all sides of the matter. 'Course they have to shut up when he makes up his mind, and not all Thranduil's advisors in my little world always do that... ;-)
Yes, not surprisingly the decision to keep them close has long range impact. On everyone, especially the kids. Some for better and some for worse. There is a scene much later on where Thranduil and Hallion discuss this conversation again, that I kind of like/am amused by.
It is good to be back! :-) Thanks so much for the review, daw!
Bodkin
· 16 March 2007
· Chapter 10: Affectations--Part One
Gorgeous, elliska, just gorgeous. I love Eirienil and Aewen's suspicion of Maidhien and Galithil's instant defence of her - and his concession to her wish to see the puppies. And I do hope Hallion's policy is effective - for her, at least. I hate to think of the children being lost - Lindomiel is so right and I'm glad Thranduil is prepared to accept the risk of keeping his enemies under his eye for the sake of their children. Even if that does include Anastor and his unpleasant friend.
There are so many things to like - and I don't have time to go into them all ... I'm going to indulge in a second review when I feel more comprehensive! But - I am so pleased to see this. You need more free time!
Author's reply
I do need more free time! :-) But on the up side, this is the first part of the monster chapter (over 40 pages when all editing was done) that has been hanging me up so badly. Now that I have conquered it (and settled for just dividing it randominly at every 10 pages for posting), hopefully I won't get hung up again.
I say too much answering reviews. I had an answer all typed up to this and when I re-read it, I realized I might as well just post a summary of the entire rest of the plot. :-) Suffice to say that all the children start seeing some new viewpoints from here on out, since Thranduil decided to let Dolwon and Dannenion's families stay and encouraged interaction between them. I especially like Galithil, Maidhien and Tulus as this goes forward. :-)
I'm glad you enjoyed it (and don't feel like you have to leave another review--I loved this one). Thanks so much for the review! :-)
lwarren
· 16 March 2007
· Chapter 10: Affectations--Part One
Oh welcome back, elliska! You have been missed sorely! I have re-reread all the Journeys over the past year and hoped you would eventually continue the story! Yay!!!!!!
This chapter started out on a hilarious note! I howled at the image of those kids scarfing down their food (like it or not) so they could be released from their punishment. Galithon, in particular, shoveling it in with both hands *snort* makes for an appealing picture. Thranduil is such a tease, isn't he? He played them just right - they didn't know what to think! *snickers* I also appreciated the fact that Legolas turns his father's own words back on him..."Are you not hungry, Ada?...You are not eating well." I can't count the times my own have tried that on me! *g* I do like the way the King handles his son - giving him the responsibility with the puppies' training so he won't feel left out was genius (oh, I do LIKE the King!) In fact, I just love the family dynamics - you do write them so well!
Loved the kids bursting out of the palace like a dam bursting - I take 40 third graders to recess and that is exactly how it feels once I release them from their line...one can only get out of the way! LOL You also write the kids just right - the bickering and arguing and taking sides...ah yes, three more days of spring break and peace! :-)
And once again, your way of dealing with the politics of the Woodland Realm is fascinating. Now, I have to say that I am with Amglaur on the question of letting the traitorous leaders stay or banishing them...but I knew Thranduil would have no part of kicking them out. So, he's going to try to win them over personally? Hmmmm, and if I recall correctly, those same awful persons were planning on using Maidhien in gathering information about the royal family. This is not good, elliska, not good at all. I wait patiently (or not! lol) for an update and hope that Hallion's idea doesn't backfire in the King's face!
Wonderful chapter and welcome back!
Linda
Author's reply
Hi Linda! Isn't Spring Break a wonderful thing? I am on mine and that is how I finally had the time to get back on track here.
I'm glad you liked the opening scene. I thought it was fun. Poor Thranduil. But Legolas is so happy by the time he leaves since he gets to train the puppies. And I think kids that turn stuff back on their parents are hilarious, so Legolas has to do it. :-)
I am just taking deep breaths thinking about 40 real life kids breaking loose for recess. Wow! Yes, Spring Break is good. ;-)
And the politics heat up from here (approx. Third Age 1965) until the Watchful Peace begins. Things get increasingly tense from here on out. Thranduil may wish that he had not listened to Hallion by the end.
Thanks so much for the review!
lyncarol333
· 6 January 2007
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
Hi, i just wanted to tell you how much i love this, and your other fics. i especially like your descriptions of thranduil's family, as tolkien wrote little to nothing on the elven king (which i find extremly frustrating to say the least).
i also wanted to know if you were planning to update soon, as your last update was in may.
i hope you had a lovely christmas and new year
Lyn
Author's reply
I just saw this review. Real Life kept me off the Internet for awhile and I guess I missed it until now. So sorry about that.
I'm glad you enjoy the fic. I do love writing about Thranduil and his family, precisely because, as you say, Tolkien left so much to the imagination. Thranduil seemed so complex to me in the Hobbit, with his treatment of the dwarves and his unwillingness to got to war for gold and his willingness to help the men...I just fell for his character and wanted more.
I have finally updated, so I hope you are still reading fanfic and will continue to enjoy this one.
Thanks so much for the review and again so sorry for being so long in replying.
Jay Greenleaf Elf
· 29 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
Hi, you still remember me? I am sooooooo sorry that I have not reviewed in ages, please forgive, my schedule has become even more busier since I'm now in matric. I can see two more elleths who will want to team up with the Black Swan (I forgot her name again) and I wonder who that other woman is that was talking to Dolwon, sounds like things are going to get even more tense, lol, I just got a funny thought on how all the elleths are getting together forming an alliance against Thranduil, just picture them charging towards him and he has no choice but to make a run for it while they swinging their handbags at him and his shrieking, lol. You must excuse my sense of humour it comes with my very vivid imagination. But I do understand the seriousness of this fic and that is why I feel I must ask for forgiveness, I don't want to make a parody out of it, it's just my twistedness.
The boar scene was absolutely tense, I can't believe how foolish those two elflings can be, I'm mean any elf their age can think logically, if you look at Legolas and the other elflings they are younger than those two and yet they had enough sense to climb into the nearest tree. I feel sorry for Maidhien, for having a brother and a whole family like that, her own FATHER would've blamed her for the whole incident, I truly think that Thranduil should adopt her, he's a much better father even if he stern but that's what made Legolas into the elf he turned out to be. But normally in a family like that when all the members are against discipline and scoffing at authority but when there is a member with much more sense and understanding and a better person then you can expect the rest of the family to not hate him or her but treat them harshly, if you know what I mean and go against her family's judgement. She made a very brave yet wise decision to visit the royal family and find out for herself what Thranduil is really like.
The story of the ents was well done, altough to be honest I'm not all that interested in them, I'm more interested in learning about the history of elves but I truly enjoyed it, you did a great job.
Overall, Its been great reading this and I do hope that you continue to update and I am dying to find out what happens in the next few chapters. I will do my best to review as often as I can, I hope this review makes up for the LOOOOOOOONG delay.
Author's reply
I just noticed these reviews on this chapter. It was so long ago (and when Real Life was keeping me from the Internet) that I guess I never saw them. Sorry about that!
just picture them charging towards him and he has no choice but to make a run for it while they swinging their handbags at him and his shrieking, lol.
Hehehe! This image reminds me, for some reason, of Neville's image to fight off the Boggart in Harry Potter. Do you read HP? Neville sees Professor Snape dressed in his Grandmother's clothing, including her red handbag. It is hilarious.
Maidhien is going to be a very important character in this story, so I'm glad she caught your attention. She will be 'adopted' in a way, but there will be trouble along the way too, naturally.
I'm sorry for the long delay in updates. RL can be a real pain. I hope you are still enjoying LotR fanfic. :-)
Thanks for the review and sorry to be so long in answering it.
Dot
· 12 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
I was going to say how ignorant Lalfien and Eregeth are but really, the other females aren’t helping either. Gossip and rumours will only cause trouble and I felt bad for Lindomiel being dragged into it as they tried to use her, when it’s nothing to do with her – and even less to do with them. Even if I totally agree that they don’t contribute anything positive and would be better off gone… ;-)
Elliska! The entire scene with the boar was nerve-wracking! I thought it was very effective using Lindomiel’s POV. She’s a terrified mother but we can see her working things out, assessing what’s happening and trying to make herself do what will be best for everyone’s safety. I even felt for Eregeth in her desperate attempt to get to her daughter. But I must say, the person I felt most sorry for was Hurion. What a terrible position to be in. But he really kept his head and knew when to shoot and when not to. The children were very brave. I love how they all work together to save Maidhien. And Galithil! Reckless, but no-one could doubt his courage! It wasn’t enough for him that Maidhien was saved, he had to get rid of the cause of the danger. My heart was in my throat the whole time. And the last person I was expecting was Dolgailon – I must have looked a right twit sitting here with my mouth open in shock! Great scene, Elliska. You do tension a little too well!
What a fright Aradunnon and Amoneth must have got. That was a great scene as the information came out. Even peacekeeper Eirienil is angry enough at seeing her cousin hurt to place blame on those two idiots Anastor and Noruil. I love that the children focus on Maidhien’s danger and how there was no question that she needed to be saved instead of their own fear – and stubborn Legolas saying he’d do it again. He’s already quite good at judging a situation. It’s good too to see such tenderness between Galithil and his father. All the elflings were much relieved, it seems. And I was very proud of Galithil for admitting he was wrong to take the knife and to deceive Dolgailon ;-) I thought the reason he took it was a good one – rather than just mischief or badness, I mean. Though none of the adults are going to be happy that a child feels he has to prove that the king and co. are doing their job. I was glad that Lindomiel and Arthiel explained to Thranduil what happened with the wives. He needs to know that.
Dieneryn and Dolgailon seem to have a better understanding of Galithil than Aradunnon does. But then, like any father, Aradunnon wants his son to know right from wrong without having to learn it the hard way. It’s just a pity that he sometimes automatically thinks the worst of him :-/
I loved the whole part with Maidhien visiting! It was so good of her to come. Poor little thing must have been very worried. And it made me smile to see her awe at her surroundings. I guess she doesn’t get much exposure that kind of thing at home. That mosaic does sound amazing. “Ada says that it is my fault that you are injured since I fell from the tree, and he says Thranduil is going to be even angrier with us since his nephews and son were endangered because of me.” Yeah, that’s where my jaw dropped – that he’d blame her, that he’d paint the king in such a poor light to a child, that he’d suggest that Thranduil would blame her… Actually, if that’s what she’s hearing at home, it makes her even braver to come and visit when there’s a chance she could run into the scary king. I was glad Lindomiel and Legolas were able to put her enough at ease that she’d listen to Thranduil. I get the impression, though, that she can be quite a feisty thing when she wants. Thranduil was a bit overly generous about her ada but I think he did the right thing in explaining to her that he probably got a shock at the thought of the danger his children were in. That’s all she really needs to know now.
“Was our behavior good enough to prove that we can be trusted to go outside by ourselves again?” Heh. Nice one, Legolas. He really will make a good diplomat some day! His father isn’t bad either – he’s just managed to find out that it was Anastor and Noruil who led them astray! Legolas is very sweet in his seriousness about having learned their lesson. I somehow think that at their age, there are many more years of lesson-learning ahead of them!
“You never know what information she might hear there. Or what we might hear if those children begin visiting our homes. It could prove to be a useful friendship in the future.” *blinks* Somebody stop these two! Oh, they’re going to pay a high price some day for all this. Hopefully, anyway. Poor Maidhien, being used by the adults in her life. I do hope we see more of her, though. I like her.
Author's reply
Hi Dot! Hehe! I'm sorry, but I can just see elleth that have lived for 1000s of years as either knowing firmly that gossip doesn't help or being so firmly entrenched in a gossiping crowd that they are really bad about it. Unfortunately for Lindomiel, she was with the gossips that morning. You have to feel for her.
You do tension a little too well! I suppose that it is mean to take pleasure from that comment, huh? Oh well, I did. :-) Thanks Dot!
And poor Galithil--Aradunnon just doesn't know how to handle a son that is so much like him (I bet Dieneryn thinks that is pretty funny most of the time). But seeing Galithil hurt is too much for poor Aradunnon--that boar had probably better be glad it was dead already. And I do love little Maidhien. She was very brave to come see Galithil after all she hears at home. Her comments do prove what idiots her parents are--talk about people who can't make a correct judgement! But that's why they are in the situation they are in. I bet Thranduil wanted to say something different about Maidhien's parents, but he kept it to himself--it must have been one of his more diplomatic moments. ;-)
Legolas has ada wrapped around his finger, doesn't he? And you will definitely see more of Maidhien... and her parents...
Thanks so much for the review, Dot!
Gwynhyffar
· 10 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
I am far behind in reading and even more so in reviewing, but I did want to let you know that I loved this last chapter. Galithil will be somewhat subdued for a day or two, but his attitude is sure to appear again.
I nearly fell out of my chair when Maidhien informed Thranduil that he isn't as mean as her ada says - and shame on him for using her! I really enjoy her character. She is the only one in her family with any sense.
Author's reply
Hi Gwynhyffar! Nice to hear from you--believe me, I know all about being behind in fanfic stuff. I am thinking about taking a vacation just to catch up on it! ;-)
I think you are right about Galithil. A little thing like a boar isn't going to keep him down for long. And I'm glad you liked Maidhien's comment. Hehehe. I wanted to include that part because there is another part that I wrote where her brother says repeats something similar (but worse) to Legolas and I am beginning to doubt I'm going to be able to include that part. But it cracks me up when kids repeat things they heard their parents say, so I wanted something in there--not to mention that Maidhien plays a larger role in this story in the long run. :-) You're right that she is the only one with sense. :-)
Thanks so much for the review!!
Idhreniel
· 9 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
Evil adults! Evil people! They will take advantage of the children's friendship! I hope Thranduil can avoid that.
It was great to read from you once more! Great description of the boar thing and Lindomiel's despair as a mother. I also loved the way you described the little girl's fear for the king... but he is so charming she is already changing her mind, I see. And Legolas... what a little rascal! Seeing his father obvious spoiling after a trauma decided well to press on the matter of the punishment. Smart child.
Thank you for the update, Elliska!
Hugs,
Author's reply
Hi Idhreniel! I'm glad you liked it. :-) I imagine Thranduil could charm nearly anyone, don't you think? ;-). And Legolas was a clever little thing here--he knows his ada very well. Thank you so much for the review!
Nilmandra
· 8 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
Well, fortunately for you, the child survived. :>)
Galithil was very brave. He may even have invented a new sport: bareback boar riding! Watch for young and foolish warriors to capture one and have contests seeing who can stay on the longest. I wonder which of this crew will play rodeo clown :D Very Oropherish thing to do, I think. Which may not be good for longevity, unfortunately.
I am with the children on this one - they must be thrilled to be out of doors again. I like how your young Legolas is very diplomatic, too - knows just when to push his father. We can see already why he would have been trusted to bring the news to Mithrandir in Imladris.
Author's reply
Well, fortunately for you, the child survived.
:-) This time. (Sorry, can't resist--the angst is on it's way in this). But for now, oh dear! Young warriors hearing about this and turning it into dares and games. Please don't tempt me! But boars smell so awful that I doubt elves would be able to stand it.
I can just see them bursting through the stronghold doors the next morning, Galithil following even if he pulls every stitch loose trying. They will be so happy and I think I'll let them stay that way for a few fluffy chapters.
We can see already why he would have been trusted to bring the news to Mithrandir in Imladris.
:-) He will have some diplomatic opportunities before then too that I couldn't help playing with a bit, but this is certainly where he must end up--ready to deliver that news and ready to make a very big decision after doing so. I enjoy thinking about how he got to that point.
Thanks so much for the reviews, Nilmandra!
perelleth
· 8 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
Pheeeeew! *sighs in relief*
You got me teribly worried there! Fortunately, Galithil just got a painful wound, which will hopefully sober him up a bit, and they all got hero treatment!I was so worried, what with Dolgailon's knife obviously in the hands of this grade 9 earthquake!
The scene in the infirmary was great, for despite the worry, I could not help laughing everytime Aradunnon feared what he was about to hear: Please do not tell me that you provoked a boar,” he said, astonishment causing the pitch of his voice to rise. and then Aradunnon’s mouth fell open slightly. “You jumped onto the boar?” I was roaring by then! “Stabbed the boar?” he quoted. “With what?” Priceless. Such father such son. Dieneryn was actually pretty discreet offering counsel without embarassing any of her sons with a tale! :-)
And even if we can breathe now, the door is poen for mores serious mischief. It must be hoped that Galithil will sober up with his new task, even if it is a puishment and they have all redeemed themselves somehow. But the shadow is lingering over them. Good job, elliska!
Author's reply
:-) I don't have the heart (or stomach) to kill them off this young. Galithil gets a much more heroic death than fighting with a boar. But they did feel pretty heroic in this chapter once they figured out they weren't in too much trouble.
Hehehe! I'm glad you liked poor Aradunnon in this. I imagine that is how many of his conversations go with Galithil. I am certain Dieneryn could have had a lot of fun making that conversation much worse for Aradunnon. De tal palo, tal astillo sin duda.
Yes, the whole stage is set now for everything else that is going to happen in this part and several others. I am going to post a few fluff and fun chapters, I think, and then get down to some action.
Thanks so much for the reviews, perelleth!
daw the minstrel
· 8 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
Hm. Plotting for the future? That's an interesting link to the last chapter where Thranduil scolds Legolas for not making his presence known when he comes up on a conversation.
I'm glad the elflings are free again. A month is a very long time to be shut up in the house unless you're escorted. I'd find it long and I'm not a wood elf child.
Author's reply
That's an interesting link to the last chapter where Thranduil scolds Legolas for not making his presence known when he comes up on a conversation.
Precisely! You are right on the money with that observation, as you will see.
And I am glad the elflings are free too--the story is more interesting/easier to write that way. ;-) But yes, I think the poor children could take no more and Spring Festival is coming up.
Thank you so much for the reviews, daw!
Bodkin
· 8 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
I do hope that exposure to Eirienil and her cousins - and meeting Thranduil et al on amiable terms contributes to the saving of Maidhien. She seems a nice girl - and courageous - and deserves to be rescued from the pit of bitterness and plotting. And, if she takes words back to her family, she might well also reveal matters. In fact, she already has. I loved her response to the mural, by the way. (And Eirienil needs a girl friend. Ellyn are all very well, but there are moments when an elleth needs another elleth.)
Legolas has learned more of his father's omniscience, too. It must be really difficult to keep secrets around that Stronghold! Galithil is probably lucky he got hurt - brave, yes, made a conscious decision to help, yes, but if he had escaped undamaged, he might well have found that his theft of the knife got rather a lot more attention. Dolgailon's suggestion - that is somewhere between reward and punishment - is probably a very good idea. (As, Aradunnon, is listening to your mother. After all, a parent who raised you successfully must have got a few things right!)
There seems a possibility that, although the negotiator has managed to restore elfling freedom, elfling freedom might be rather more warrior-supervised - especially if they are more than a whisker away from home.
I don't think Lalfien and Eregeth have done themselves or their families any favours. Already an irritation, their popularity ratings have now probably sunk through the floor. It could mean, I would think, that they are not actually in on the plots - surely, then they would have the sense to keep their mouths shut and smile and stir things up rather more delicately. All they are doing is increasing support for Thranduil. As for their sons! Well, they are simply going to hate Legolas, Galithil and Berior even more. They are definitely on the way to being chips off the old block.
Poor Hurion. He probably had the worst role of the day. Whatever he did was wrong. He couldn't stop Lindomiel letting the kids go ahead, he couldn't let her rush to the rescue, he couldn't shoot the boar with the kids in the way. Really, one guard is just for show - he cannot be everywhere at once - but he can get the blame if anything goes wrong.
Really enjoyable chapter. I just loved it and plan to go straight back and read it again. I hope the work schedule allows for more soon!
Author's reply
Maidhien is the Tulus of her generation in this story, poor thing. I'm glad you liked her response to the mural. Her interest in those types of things, which she gets no exposure to at home, will be a cause of conflict for her as the story goes on. But no, neither Lalfien nor Eregeth (nor Dolwon and Dannenion, really) are the brains of this outfit. They are digging their own grave, but they will take others to it with them. And Anastor and Noruil will definitely be bitter enemies with Legolas et al before this is over.
Poor Galithil--he is really better off with a cut from the boar, I think. You are right that things would have been much different otherwise.
Poor Hurion indeed! Whenever I write one of these types of situations, the guards are really a problem. The poor blokes are always either going to die or be left in a hopeless situation.
I actually hope to build back to a twice a week posting here soon...famous last words.
Thank you so much for your reviews, Bodkin!
French Pony
· 7 May 2006
· Chapter 9: Expectations--Part Two
Oh my. . . out of the mouths of babes, indeed. It must be extremely hard to plot against the King in such a small community. All the kids play together, and not a blessed one of them can resist repeating everything they hear.
Good thing that the grownups finally saw reason, even though it took a boar attack to get them to do it. Although, if any kid ever actually used the phrase "we learned our lesson all too well" with me, I'd keep a weather eye on him for another month.
I liked the picture of all the Elves working together to get Maidhien out of the way and bring down the boar. It's a nice reminder that, supercool as Elves are, they aren't completely all-powerful. Instead, it's their cooperation that makes them strong.
Author's reply
Although, if any kid ever actually used the phrase "we learned our lesson all too well" with me, I'd keep a weather eye on him for another month.
Hehehe! Although I think Legolas is fairly sincere in this case, if I had ever said anything like that as a child, my parents would have locked me in a closet! You are too right here!
Yes, you are also quite right that we have not seen/heard the end of the ramifications of this little incident--many things in the future of this story revolve around these two chapters.
it's their cooperation that makes them strong. I really liked that observation. I think it is very true.
Thanks for the review, FP!
Dot
· 28 April 2006
· Chapter 8: Expectations--Part One
*rushes in…slides to a halt* I’m here! So sorry this is late :-/
It sounds like things have been tough in the Woodland Realm. I really like the way you show us this in little ways like Legolas being reluctant to go in to breakfast because they’re living on such plain food, set against Thranduil’s worry. Lindomiel too seems worried and weary, even as she tries to help her husband. I love seeing those two together – and the idea of them spending this time together first thing in the morning always delights me :-) I kind of felt sorry for Legolas – but I can see why Thranduil wouldn’t be too pleased at the thought of his son overhearing/passing things on. And it seems the elflings have managed to get a little outing out of all this!
I cringed when Galithil mentioned the bows at the breakfast table. And then he starts the “why” and “not fair” whines! He really has no sense sometimes. Legolas seems to spend a lot of time trying to smooth things over after his cousin has spoken. Galithil has so many good qualities – like bravery and loyalty – that could be encouraged and make him into a worthy adult but the challenging of authority and disregard for rules means that all he’s doing is earning the distrust of those around him. I was torn here between thinking he’s a nitwit and feeling bad for the opinion that the adults have of him. I notice he didn’t quite answer Dolgailon’s question…Eep. I hope I’m wrong. Dishonesty is not something that his family will take lightly. I have to admit I laughed when Thranduil lost his patience about Anastor’s and Noruil’s parents – even though he definitely should have had more restraint! But really, I wouldn’t have been able to hold my tongue either! As long as it doesn’t get back to them what the king thinks.
Lalfien and Eregeth sound… stubborn. And once again Legolas steps in. You know, he would make a good diplomat. If circumstance allowed him to take that path, of course.
Well, my heart stopped for a moment when Galithil burst into the clearing! I was so afraid of what it was he’d stumbled across that had made the other two string their bows. It was a very tense moment as the children backed towards the trees to get into safety. I was glad that Eirienil, the voice of reason, was there but Anastor and Noruil are idiots. I couldn’t believe Anastor wouldn’t let his sister go with them to safety. For some reason Galithil’s comment, “If I ever have a sister, I hope I treat her with more care,” really touched me. And then the two boys flee into the trees when the boar charges and let Maidhien go last! And then you leave us with a cliff-hanger! So what happens?? If Galithil does have the knife, now might be a good time to pull it out. I hope none of them get injured trying to save Maidhien. But I hope she isn’t hurt either… Ack. Next chapter please! (Er, no pressure of course!)
Author's reply
Oh my gosh, Dot--I never got the notification that this was here. I am so sorry for not responding sooner!
I'm glad you commented on the difficulties the folks in the Woodland Realm are having this winter. I enjoyed thinking about all the foods that might be available around them and that sort of thing. And I love Thranduil and Lindomiel's time in the garden every morning too. They both need it sometimes.
I'm also glad you laughed at Thranduil's little comment. I laughed myself when I wrote it. Those two families have to be on Thranduil's last nerve.
Legolas and the possibility of diplomatic roles is something you will see--there are Men in Dale and soon to be Dwarves in the Lonely Mountain. Someone must deal with them politely and I don't think it will always be Thranduil. ;-) But Thranduil is learning that one of his son's strengths is diplomacy.
Galithil is his own worst enemy as several people have commented. He may be headstrong--I don't think that trait is necessarily uncommon in his family given the little canon we have surrounding Oropher and Thranduil--but his heart is in the right place, as we will continue to see. Unfortunately, people like that often have to learn some lessons the hard way (gee--I wouldn't know that from experience, would I?). :-) But this incident established some emnities, friendships and loyalties that are going to have longterm importance in this story in several ways.
The cliffhanger went for a week longer than I intended, so I am fininshing up the next chapter and will post it later today.
Thanks so much for the review, Dot. I really appreciate them.
French Pony
· 24 April 2006
· Chapter 8: Expectations--Part One
Wait. . . the winter is over already? How long have those kids been punished for? More than half a year? Not one of Thranduil's smartest moves. No wonder the kids have been getting resentful. Half a year of an open-ended punishment that is suspiciously beneficial to the adults is not even close to good discipline. It's completely above and beyond what their naughtiness merited, and it's beginning to look more like spite and viciousness than discipline. Thranduil is damn lucky that Legolas is still speaking to him. Legolas has the patience of Nilmandra to put up with something so patently unfair for so long. And Lindomiel is just sitting there and letting Thranduil continue in his stupidity.
Not a good showing for the grownups here. Any of them. Dolgailon's behavior towards Galithil regarding the knife was completely uncalled-for.
Set against that, the scene with the boar was instructive. The kids are right now having an object lesson in why one should only handle weapons with proper care and how to deal with an emergency. It's going to be far more effective and lasting than any punishment that the grownups could mete out. The grownups will have to handle the aftermath carefully, though. Ideally, they should provide comfort and take care of the kids, trusting that the lesson has been sufficiently pounded into little heads. But, knowing the grownups, they'll probably turn this into an excuse for more scolding, lecturing, and confinement, even though it was Anastor and Noruil who actually shot the boar.
I'm a little confused about the name of the girl threatened by the boar, though. She's variously referred to as Maidhien, Maidhiel, and Madhiel. Sounds to me as if she went through several name changes there.
Author's reply
Hi FP. I think between letting thing go so long between updates and just a loose storyline, I let the time line get a little confusing. The first chapter in this story is set on the very first nice day of Spring. I imagine the moonbow chapters, where the kids earn the punishment, are only a few days after that. In the last chapter, I think Galithil said that they had been good for almost a month. And I imagine this current chapter is just a few days after that one at the most, since the parents are just now hearing about the bows for the first time that the kids saw in that last chapter. So it is still relatively early in the same Spring as the first chapter. The poor little kids have been under this punishment for a month--I don't think that's too unfair given that they promised to mind Crithad and then snuck away from his house to do something they knew they weren't allowed to do that was also very dangerous. But I think it is in the next chapter (not the one that concludes this 'cliffhanger' chapter, but the one after that)where things loosen up a bit for them anyway. Sorry to have been so unclear. Its my fault.
I do think I'll defend Dolgailon though. When my niece stays at my house, since I know she is fascinated with my archery equipment, if I found any part of it missing, I think I would definitely question her about it. And if she was snotty about it, I'd probably have a little more to say to her, even though I'm not her mother. Dolgailon was worried his little brother was going to get into trouble and he was just trying to prevent it.
And I think the boar incident will be instructive. Not the way I'd like my kids to learn, if it were me. But instructive just the same. Some people, like Galithil, learn best that way, I guess. Fortunately, I think the grownups handle this fairly well in the end.
Thanks for pointing out Maidhien's name problems. I will go fix that right now.
Thanks for the review, FP.