French Pony
· 4 December 2005
· Chapter 6: Discoveries
Awright! Back in the saddle again.
I think Thranduil is already regretting confining the Elflings to the stronghold, especially since there seem to be more forbidden places there than in the forest. Of course confined children will play Hide And Seek, though by the end, it looked like it was going to morph into Sardines.
The stronghold sounds like a massively cool place, what with all the secret doorways that conveniently lead right into listening places. I wonder if Lindomiel designed them that way on purpose, just for the sheer coolness of it all, or if they are little "gifts" from the Dwarves that built the place.
In any event, Legolas gets his first gander at a Dwarf. And this Dwarf, just like almost everyone else in the world, is trying to pull one over on Thranduil. And, just like everyone else in the world, he'll only do that once. Seems like Thranduil gets more information by catching miscreants than by actually, you know, patrolling the kingdom. Fortunately, he doesn't seem too peeved at the kids for having "accidentally" stumbled into his meeting. I bet he knew the door was there all along. I wonder if the Dwarf saw the kids in the Great Hall.
Author's reply
Hi FP! I am glad to be back, even if I am having trouble deciding how to order the chapters in this, since it is so much looser and what to include. This was one of the chapters I always knew I wanted to include. I like the idea of Legolas exploring around and finding stuff in the caves--how could that not happen? :-) There has to be lots of stuff to find. (And lots of trouble to find).
Thanks so much for the reviews and the patience. :-)
perelleth
· 26 October 2005
· Chapter 5: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Three
Ah! Doomsday has finally arrived! The kids were brave despite their obvious and understandable terror, but I had to laugh at how the "court" prepared for session! That made it all even worse, I'd say!
You give criminals in your court an opportunity to speak, Thranduil LOL Hallion managed to put it all into perspective, and then gave it the final touch throwing the "genetic" thing into the discussion! Group scolding has its disadvantages, that every parent wants to have his own go at it !:-)
But I think that saying they will wish they had some injury to distract you is a terribly foolish way to tempt fate.” Aiiii... and you're hinting at fate's intentions, aren't you? Galithil was so well brave here...
Author's reply
Oh my gosh--look at this review here. I have been so scattered. I read it in my email when it came and forgot to reply to it. I am so sorry--I'm not ungrateful--just very, very forgetful.
Poor kids indeed. We all remember doing something that was fun and exciting at the time and then having to pay for it afterwards. But they were brave and mostly very good and honest and because of that, they got off easier than they were going to originally.
Thranduil loves and respects Hallion, but Hallion also can make the kind of comments that put even Thranduil in his place. And I think that just drives the king nuts sometimes. ;-) But he needs someone like Hallion sometimes.
And as for your last comment, my only answer: yeap. Other than that, you will have to wait and see. :-)
Thanks so much for the review. I really did love it and I would have sworn I'd replied to it.
Nilmandra
· 24 October 2005
· Chapter 5: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Three
Oh, a good resolution to the story of elflings run amok. I like how they told, stood with their friend, and made the right decisions. Their behaviors fit well with the idea that elf children for the most part are well behaved and in little need of discipline. That, of course, is much truer in times of peace and prosperity than in a forest where children on a simple adventure can be seriously harmed! The adults as a group seemed to have more sense than any one of them alone would have had - the widsom of the generations speaks through here. In particular, the aunt who pointed out that injury is never good, no matter what, and the grandmother who remembers that all children are not the same and need a customized childhood learning plan!
I am curious to see how the issue of the other two children is resolved, and how quickly the elves figure out who the two are.
Thank you for an enjoying read this evening. :)
Author's reply
Hi Nimandra! I am glad you commented on the "elfings need little discipline" thing. That is obviously how I am showing them. I might have kids if I thought they'd behave this well. ;-) But you are so right that honest mistakes can turn into major tragedy in a world like Mirkwood. They are very lucky they didn't learn that the hard way--this time.
the widsom of the generations speaks through here Good! That is really what I was going for as I thought about how it would be different to be a child/parent/grandparent amongst elves. It must be odd to have someone old enough to remember you great grandparents around to comment on your parenting skills.
Anastor and Noruil will be resolved but not resolved as you will see--they are going to continue to cause problems for a while, al ong with their parents.
I'm glad you enjoyed it and thanks so much for the reviews! :-)
Dot
· 24 October 2005
· Chapter 5: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Three
I’m so glad this chapter ended on a good note because I was trembling right along with the elflings there for a while! I thought it was rather sweet of Galithil to tell Brethil that they didn’t have to admit that he went with them. I mean, logically it made no sense because it would have been discovered and, in fact, would have made matters worse, but it was still a selfless gesture at the time. Galithil does have an obvious problem with authority – and his apparent need to have things proven to him is worrying - but I’ve noticed that he’s loyal to his friends in times of need. I foresee problems for him in the future but there are parts of his character that I really admire too.
Of course, they were completely in the wrong but I was very proud of Brethil and of Galithil and Legolas all the same. Poor Crithad! I’d have reacted in exactly the same way. It actually probably makes it worse that he knows that Brethil has been told before what dangers are in the forest because what can he do? The child chose to disregard that. His anger and worry and struggle to be calm were very realistic. And Amglaur is a very good daerada! One of the moments I like most in this chapter, though, is Crithad taking his son’s hand and leading him to stand with his friends.
The tension in that sitting room before the elflings arrived was almost suffocating! Brooding adars and worried naneths do not make for a comfortable scene. I’m actually completely torn as to what to think. I mean, Aradunnon is a little harsh but I agree with everything he said to Amoneth. It was foolish and dangerous and such behaviour does need to be dealt with. Dieneryn makes a good point that Galithil is a different person than Dolgailon but I think where that matters most right now is in Aradunnon being aware that Galithil needs to learn things in a different way to his older brother. I think Aradunnon has every right to be as angry as he is. I just hope he can see past that to realise that his son needs to learn respect and obedience from this, not defiance and resentment. Hallion made me smile. This type of thing is indeed part of childhood. And I want to hear more of those stories!!
Something I thought you did really well was having Celonhael trying to be the voice of reason to the other parents and then being the first to freak out. That was so effective. I can’t tell you how bad I felt for him when he realised how much danger his beloved son could have been in. He must have been hurt too when he clearly would have been delighted to go with Berior to see the moonbow. You also did a fabulous job in conveying what everyone was feeling as different bits of the story came to light. I particularly liked Amoneth’s calming influence on Aradunnon. I’m a little worried about the relationship between Aradunnon and Galithil, though, when Aradunnon believes immediately that it was his son who went through the trees. Of course, it doesn’t help that Galithil is keeping some things secret. I’d hate to see a distance between them but I guess I’ll have to wait and see… Aradunnon could have a problem child on his hands but he needs more patience and understanding than he seems to have to deal with that.
I suspected that the children wouldn’t tell on Anastor and Noruil. I suppose as a child I wouldn’t have either. They can’t see the bigger picture.
“So let us make sure we understand this properly: last night, after promising us that you would behave appropriately while guests in Master Crithad’s home, you left his yard—something you have admitted you knew was wrong—to go look at a moonbow because some children who are obviously of poor character, since they were teasing you, told you it would only be visible last night.” Ouch. Well, Thranduil certainly has a knack for getting to the heart of the matter. Why are parents so good at making what appeared to be completely logical actions sound like utter foolishness?! I kind of like the fact that the whole family is involved in this, in that they all contribute towards forming the characters of their elflings – but it must have been so tough on the elflings. Arthiel, Dolgailon, Amglaur and Dieneryn did a good job of holding their tongues!!
What a lovely, lovely moment when Legolas apologises to Brethil for ruining his begetting day. And then to Crithad too. And thank heavens Thranduil didn’t blame Crithad! I was afraid…
I thought Thranduil did a tremendous job with his son when he spoke to him afterwards. And Lindomiel was there when he was in danger of failing to see Legolas’ side. He really manages to make Legolas see exactly what disappointed him, what angered him and what worried him. The discussion about leading and being led was fascinating and important for any child, but more so for someone in Legolas’ position. Legolas himself is displaying a lot of maturity – more so in his desire to see his father’s viewpoint and to learn from his mistakes than anything else. But he still has a certain impulsiveness to him too that actually rounds out his character. They are going to hate this punishment!!!
Thranduil and the owl!! I can’t even begin to tell you how much I adore that image! And in the moonlight! Oh, I love it. It’s altogether a very elfy ending. I was actually left feeling a little sad for Thranduil because some of his fierce protectiveness comes from his own experiences. The closeness between them was very touching, though.
This was a great chapter. I was rather glad we got to see the parents have their say but I’m so relieved an understanding was reached in the end. Not that these elflings will stay completely out of mischief :-)
Author's reply
I'm a sucker for happy endings--since there are so many parts of this that just don't allow happy endings, I take advantage of opportunities when I can. :-)
Galithil definitely challenges his father more than is wise. And you are so right that he learns from experience, not words, poor kid. But as you said, he has some important good qualities too--if only he can shape up enough for his adar to notice them before he kills him. :-) Aradunnon raised one son who happened to be very easy to manage and he thinks the second will be just as easy. He is learning that will not be the case, poor fellow.
Getting the adults' tone in this was hard for me and I really enjoyed your comments about all of them. I particularly cracked up about Celonhael. I mean, Thranduil is right: what did Celonhael expect them to say? And he does just freak out when he hears the truth. I think you are very right--more than anything else, he is hurt that Berior didn't just ask to go because he would have loved to take him.
But I had fun with all the different adults and thinking about what their roles might be and what their attitudes would be.
I thought poor Brethil deserved an apology--he didn't want to go, after all, and his party was ruined by this. I'm glad you liked that part. I did too. :-)
Poor Crithad--he was afraid too, but Thranduil was too busy being mad at Legolas. :-)
Legolas himself is displaying a lot of maturity – more so in his desire to see his father’s viewpoint and to learn from his mistakes than anything else. But he still has a certain impulsiveness to him too that actually rounds out his character. Perfect, because that is exactly what I want for him at this age. Glad it comes across ok. *Big smile*
And I love the owl too--I know that you know I love birds. I can't resist throwing them in. And The Hobbit does imply that Thranduil learns things from the birds. So this owl was spying for Thranduil. I really wanted this chapter to be shorter, but I could not cut that part. I also like the image of Thranduil with the owl. Poor Legolas--he must realize that he won't get away with anything if that's how it is.
I'm glad you liked this. I had not noticed when I wrote this how long it was and it turned out to be really hard to split up for posting. I'm glad it turned out ok for you. :-)
Thanks so much for the reviews!
French Pony
· 24 October 2005
· Chapter 5: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Three
Sigh. I hate hate hate when adults behave like that. Seriously, grownups wonder why it's so hard for kids to learn to confess and apologize for bad behavior. But every kid knows that confession doesn't mitigate punishment; it often aggravates it, for reasons that I don't know, possibly because I'm not a parent. But I remember that I hated to apologize for anything to a grownup when I was little because I knew that, even though I had figured out what I did wrong and really was sorry, I'd get a long morality lecture like the one Thranduil gave Legolas in addition to a scolding and a punishment. I still don't like to apologize.
And open-ended punishments are the worst. I really feel for the kids here. The only grownup who's on their side is Hallion, and he has to compare them to criminals on trial to get Thranduil's attention. Everyone deserves at least a little defense. The other grownups are so grownup it hurts.
Author's reply
LOL! I sooo know what mean. I would make the world's worst parent because if my kid apolgized and said 'I know I was wrong,' I would just drop it there and assume everything would be cool on that front in the future. Well, given that my parents never failed to deliver the morality lecture and the punishment never to be forgotten, apparently that is absolutely necessary--part of the parents' code--but I'm not a parent either and I don't have the manual, so I'm not certain ;-)
And yes, open-ended punishments are awful. They are going to hate being treated like babies.
Thanks so much for the reviews, FP! :-)
Jay Greenleaf Elf
· 24 October 2005
· Chapter 5: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Three
Amazing chapter. Those elflings really got themselves into trouble this time, but I don't expect it to be the last. I hope those other two boys get caught, they also need to be punished. I liked this chapter and I will keep on enjoying as long as you keep on writing. I am so looking forward to your other story, the summary makes it very exciting and I am sure it will be.
Author's reply
:-) They could have gotten much worse, but you are right--this won't be the last and they still have many years of childhood to find more (and more serious) trouble. No doubt they will. Anastor and Noruil are heading towards their punishment as well. We will have to wait to see it, but it is coming and they will remember it.
I'm very glad you enjoyed this because I had trouble with it. :-)
I am so looking forward to your other story, the summary makes it very exciting and I am sure it will be.
I was so surprised to see that comment. I know I have mentioned my First Age thing a few times, but I couldn't imagine how you could have seen the summary already. So I went off to try to figure it out and I realized that if you click on an author's name, you can see all their stories/summaries, even the ones with zero chapters. How interesting. I didn't realize that.
But your wish is my command. I finished editing enough of that over the last week (adreneline rush while preparing for the hurricane) that I intend to post the first chapter on Wednesday. I think it is a fun story. :-)
Thanks so much for the reviews!
Brazgirl
· 24 October 2005
· Chapter 5: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Three
Elliska!!! I love it!!! One of the best chapters of this part of your magnificent story!!!
The children behaved well under the circunstances, especially when Aradunnon inquired them! I wonder what he did to Galithil. The young one has to thank Amoneth can control some of her husband's anger.
The most funny part was Celonhael losing his mind... ahaha! Then the children despaired! Arandunnon was on his limit and Thranduil seemed to be holding himself.
I like the conversation between father and son. I like the way Thranduil dealed with his son and how he made the child understand what means to be a leader and to act as one. Good lesson; that is most important when concerning the king's son. I still think if Thranduil - or maybe Lindomiel - insisted a little more Legolas would say the names. But I am sure the king will find out ;-)
Thanks for the update! Always a pleasure to read you fic!
Hugs,
Author's reply
Hi Brazgirl! I am so glad you liked it. I really had trouble editing this chapter, so it is good to see people thought it was ok. :-)
Poor Celonhael did lose it, didn't he? He just couldn't believe Berior would sneak off to do something he would be happy to do with him. And Galithil definitely did not get off as easily as Legolas--he got restricted to his room too. I am not sure if I will show that in future chapters, but he did. He is such a naughty elfling. And I'm glad you liked how Thranduil handled Legolas (Legolas might not have liked it very much, but it could have been much worse for him). I think Legolas is a bit impulsive, even in LotR (remember Gandalf has to tell him not to ride into the forest to investigate the huorns) and in this story he learns a little to control himself and listen to his better judgment. I doubt this will be his last lesson in that area. ;-)
Thank you so much for the reviews! :-)
daw the minstrel
· 24 October 2005
· Chapter 5: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Three
Thranduil handled that very well, I thought. He was a very good father to his disobedient child, and Legolas will learn from that. He was ripe to learn anyway, I think, as his confession suggested. But Legolas was lucky he confessed. I think the adas were most upset and ready to take drastic measures if they had to!
Aradunnon has a real problem on his hands though. Galithil seems to fear nothing, and that's dangerous in the world he lives in.
I was struck by how different it must be to live in an extended family like this though, so that all manner of adults were there to see the kids get scolded. That's very different than our nuclear family ways.
Author's reply
Yes, Legolas was ready to learn from this rather than resist the lesson--he knew what they were doing was wrong from the beginning, so he's not too surprised to discover it didn't turn out well. Poor thing. I do think that their confession made a difference though. They could have seen a lot worse--I would have in my house, confession or no. ;-)
Aradunnon does have a big problem on his hands, as we will see.
I am glad that you commented about the extended family thing--I really struggled editing this chapter because it just seemed ridiculously long for simply punishing some elflings (especially since it ended up being a separate chapter all by itself). But I had trouble cutting things--I wanted the owl again at the end (I love owls), so I didn't cut that; I couldn't cut their confessions to Crithad/their parents. I thought about cutting the parents' preliminary discussion but I like it because it does play with how different it would be for elves having people around that remember their great grandparents trouble-making. So I left it.
Anyway... :-) thanks so much for the reviews, daw!
Bodkin
· 24 October 2005
· Chapter 5: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Three
Awww. Aaawwww. I shall have to go and read this again. But aawwww. The ending was just lovely. But those elflings can't have enjoyed anything between the beginning and the end. Reasonable parents, showing how your behaviour has worried and distressed them can be even more difficult to cope with than wrathful ones. I suppose the ellyn's recognition of their errors and their honesty in confessing them did help. And in a perverted way, refusing to name the naughty boys is as good as it is bad.
I can't see Galithil escaping without being confined to his room, though. Both because Aradunnon is more mercurial and because he is. Berior probably ended up in tears of remorse and escaped confinement. Brethil, poor lamb, is terrified - and has to confess again to his naneth.
I'm glad that Legolas was able to be pleased that Eirienil went to see the moonbow with the approval of her parents and tutor. Another brownie point to him.
They're not going to like being treated like babies, though. This punishment is going to hurt for a long time.
This was worth the wait. I loved it. I think I'll go and read all three Mischief and Moonbow sections. Just to get an overview.
Author's reply
:-) I'm sure the children had a miserable day--being in trouble and knowing is one of those things that can raise the blood pressure of even the young. In my family, it was always my mum that got upset and my dad who did the 'we are disappointed' thing. As you said, the reasonable, distressed reaction always had a much greater impact on me. I couldn't stand it.
And of course they wouldn't name the other children, even though Anastor and Noruil treated them badly. That 'code' always has baffled me, even when I stuck to it as a child. :-)
No, you are right--Galithil got the confinement. I haven't decided if I will post the chapter that shows that, but in my mind he just challenges his dad too much to avoid the harsher punishments. Berior and Brethil did avoid the worst of it though. I do feel bad for Brethil in this--it was his begetting day, after all. And Legolas did show himself to be a good little elfling here.
I'm very glad you thought this was worth the wait. I was never particularly satisfied with it, myself. I like the three chapters as a whole (because I like the idea of elflings and moonbows / and because I needed to establish Anastor and Noruil a bit), but posting the 'punishment phase' of them as a separate chapter did not appeal to me. But, posting a 40 page chapter is even less appealing so...
Thank you so much for the reviews and the encouragement. :-)
Jay greenleaf Elf
· 16 October 2005
· Chapter 99999: Cast of Characters
Hello El
Boy, are those elflings in for some serious trouble, especially Legolas. But I have to admit that it serves them right for sneaking off like that, I mean anything could've happened to them. I would like to see what a moonbow looks like (if one really exists). To be honest, I don't really know. I also wonder what cinnamon apples taste like, it sounds delicious (mouth starts watering). Believe it or not, I am still very much enjoying your series, I'm just wondering where Marti and her conniving friends are, probably still plotting against Thranduil 'sigh' they won't give up, will they?
Author's reply
Hey! While I was poking around trying to figure out how you saw the summary, I found this review. Sorry I never answered it. I don't think I ever saw it here. What a treat to find it now. :-)
The poor elflings did get what they deserved--they are lucky the thing with the yellow eyes in that chapter didn't eat them or that they didn't fall into the river.
Moonbows are awesome. There was one near where I lived when I was a kid. They look so bright in the darkness. They really do look like magic. And cinnamon apples are delicious--really a big thing where I grew up.
Never fear, Marti and her conniving friends will be along shortly. ;-)
Thanks for the review!
Brazgirl
· 11 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Two
Hi Elliska!
Oh no... Apparently the elfling's adars are very very mad at them. I was surprised with Thranduil and with his brother even when Hallion tried to soothe their anger. Poor Galithil!
And why Legolas had to be the one to be seen by the warriors??? Poor elfling! Ada Thranduil is nervous. I wonder what Lindomiel will do to appease him.
By the way it called my attention that line - 'Thranduil's patrols!' - just like it happened to Legolas. Who are those elfling's parents? Would they be some of those creepy elves of the past??? I am curious now!
Very interesting chapter! I could feel their despair when they were heading back to the cottage and climbing the slippery rocks. Ah, and poor elf!! Those mischevious elflings made him feel guilty. I wonder if they are going to tell him in time what happened or Amglaur will find them first.
Sorry for any mistakes up here... I am sleepy. But I had to leave ou a review! There is a thing here that needs to be answered: who are the fathers of those elflings!!! Ahhaha
Hugs,
Brazgirl
Author's reply
Hi Brazgirl! Yes, the parents are angry. Legolas and his cousins should be glad they have grandparents and uncles like Hallion on thier side trying to calm their parents down a bit. :-)
I'm glad that line "Thranduil's patrol" called your attention. I meant for it to show Anastor and Noruil's attitude. You are absolutely right--they are the children of some of the creepy elves. Those kids will continue to cause trouble. And so will their parents. You will see.
Legolas was unlucky that he was the one the patrols saw. Poor him! And he will feel sorry for himself when his father gets hold of him.
Thanks so much for the reviews! :-)
Nilmandra
· 11 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Two
Oh, I am hoping that the children are allowed to confess their sins before their parents let on they know! It may not lessen any punishment, but it will do them good to do the right thing now.
You really had me on the edge of my seat, anxious to keep reading and see if they got caught. Now I am anxious to find out what the parents will do, and more importantly, if they will manage to stop the two children creating havoc with the patrols before they are injured or taken by orcs :/
Author's reply
I'm glad the beginning part of the chapter had you wondering if they would be caught, or worse. They got off relatively easy this time (though once they have to face their parents, the children may not agree that they got off easy). They will not always escape unscathed, but this time they did.
And Anastor and Noruil will continue to create havoc even if this particular activity is curtailed. Orcs...hmm. Not yet anyway.
I cannot decide how to edit the last scenes of this. Poor little things are brave to decide ot go confess though, aren't they? :-)
Thanks for the reviews! :-)
Bodkin
· 11 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Two
I do love this. Those poor elflings - having to wait for justice to fall heavily on them.
(I hope skilful questioning teases the names of Anastor and Noruil out of them. But I'm not holding my breath!)
Author's reply
:-) Thank you for the second review. What a treat. :-) Poor elflings, indeed. I am going to edit the 'justice scenes' right now and hopefully finish them tonight. Thranduil is a pretty skilled interrogator, but as daw says, children just don't tell on each other. Even if they did, Anastor and Noruil's parents aren't exactly going to be joining Thranduil for tea to discuss parenting tips anyway. Those kids are bound to cause more trouble still. :-) Thanks again. :-)
Dot
· 10 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Two
I’m so in awe of your descriptions of the forest at night. It’s just magical. I love the idea of Legolas thinking that the forest simply sleeps when the elves do, but realising now the life and beauty of the night.
The moonbow sounds amazing too. You create a real sense of something ancient and mystical. But Anastor and Noruil need a good slap across the backside. Grrr. I really felt for the other elflings when they realised that they’re mixed up in more than just deceiving Crithad. I will admit to feeling a little thrill at the thrill at the thought of the patrols being out there :-) “Thranduil’s patrols!” Anastor whispered Legolas’ shock at that disrespect for his father is very effective. It’s worrying, though, that Anastor is saying that because he must have picked it up from home or somewhere. It’s fairly obvious from the daring leap they made that these two have done this before. And can I just say how much I love Galithil taking Berior’s hand and helping him, and also coming back and helping save Brethil?! Whatever else he may be, he’s also brave and loving and he takes charge too when he needs to. And what a scary moment it was when Brethil slipped! Apart from the fact that he could have been seriously hurt, even if he just got wet it would require a lot of explaining!!
One of my favourite little details from this chapter is the line about Berior’s father not getting angry unless they’ve done something dangerous enough for them to be hurt. His son is a happy little soul and it just makes me smile to think that Celonhael hasn’t become protective of this son but has learned to just enjoy fatherhood and let his son enjoy his childhood. Of course, it also has more of an effect, I imagine, when he does lose his temper!
You painted a wonderful picture of the frightened elflings when they arrive back! Poor Crithad, though. He thinks he’s frightened them and his wife is probably in I-told-you-so mode.
I really am quite fond of bossy Eirienil. She’s quite skilled at finding out what’s going on. And Berior is adorable. Even if he will have a fine bruise on his leg now. Rodonon’s explanation of rainbows and moonbows is beautiful. I love the idea of them being a gift and blessing from the Valar.
Eek, the parents have found out. *cringe* I’m glad Aradunnon realises that they probably weren’t the ones sneaking around any other night but still, that doesn’t mean they can’t all be mad as hell with their offspring. And the mothers will probably do their “worried and disappointed” routine (understandably too!) and that’s often worse than an adar’s anger. I wonder if they’ll tell on Anastor and Noruil? Hmm.
As much as I hate seeing the elflings so anxious and guilt-ridden, I do think it’s good that they’re feeling this way because it shows that they know not only that they were wrong, but why they were wrong. It shows a lot of maturity to recognise that it is the lie – or omission of truth – that is as wrong as the act in the first place. They definitely do need to apologise to Crithad (can you tell that I like him?) and I suppose I can hope that their parents recognise this as the positive thing it is. Errrr… would it be very bad of me to wish to see Thranduil & co. in full flow, though?! :-)
Author's reply
I am so glad you liked the description of the forest at night. I wanted it to seem special through Legolas's eyes. And moonbows really are just magical to me. I remember when my dad first took me to see the one near where we lived. It was so vibrant that I'll never forget it.
And you are right--Anastor and Noruil need a good spanking. They are regularly up to no good, as we will see as this story moves along, and that line about Thranduil's patrols was intended to imply exactly what you said--they had to learn that attitude from somewhere and it's not a good sign. They will cause more trouble for Legolas than just this incident.
I will admit that Celonhael is totally my dad. You have him pegged exactly from that little line--he knows that he is blessed to have another child so late in life and he is determined to help that child enjoy the world. And Celonhael, though Sindarin, is very much a woodelf, just like his son. They play a bigger role in some later parts of this and I really like them. But you are very right--the parent that rarely loses their cool is very frightening on the rare occassion that they do get angry. Poor Berior.
I felt bad for Crithad having to take them back in the house--and having to face his wife. And when she finds out what they were really doing, it isn't going to be better for Crithad because he was supposed to be watching them. He's in a no-win situation here. Poor guy--I like him too. He's a good person and very loyal, as we will see.
And I'm glad you like Eirienil. She cracks me up. She is a good kid, if a bit bossy at times. Now that I am reading these parts again, I wonder a little if I was reading a Harry Potter story when I was writing this. She reminds me a little of Hermione sometimes. But she has some rather large responsibilities coming to her, so it is good that she is smart and dependable.
I am also glad you liked Rodonon's little story about Yavanna. I thought it was a pretty idea. :-)
But yes, the angry fathers and the disappointed mothers--what a deadly combination. I haven't decided how much of the explosion...I mean parental reaction I will show yet. The whole scene as I have it written seems too much to me. But it is hard to cut. Thranduil in full flow is fun, isn't he (at least from this side of the computer screen--wouldn't want to be in the same room with him though.)
Thanks so much for the reviews! :-)
perelleth
· 10 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Two
Yay! doomsday's at hand!
It was such a dangerous adventure, I was catching my breath waiting for the moment one of them would slip and fall into the river.
I had to laugh at Legolas' surpirse at hearing his adar referred to as simply "Thranduil"! :-)
These two elflings, though seem to be at nothing good, chasing the patrols and learning about their movements... and guiling other elflings into the forest at night... this smells like disaster!
Pity that the kids made up their minds and decided to tell the truth the same moment the infuriated parents are in search of an explanation, this is going to be great! :-)
Author's reply
You are right that Anastor and Noruil are serious troublemakers. They will continue to be as this little story progresses along. I'm glad Legolas's reaction to the way the refered to Thranduil made you laugh--I had fun with that detail. I think it would be something Legolas would rarely hear, so it would strike him. And I intend it to show something about Anastor and Noruil's attitudes too.
And I'm glad the beginning of the chapter had you a bit worried about the outcome. Nothing happened this time. They were lucky. They will not always be so lucky in the future, but then, after their parents get hold of them, they may not count themselves as very lucky this time either. ;-) Legolas would like to express his dismay over your enthusiasm for the punishment he is going to have to endure. ;-) (I would not want to face an angry Thranduil).
Thanks for the reviews! :-)
Bodkin
· 10 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Two
Well. If they are caught actually in the process of confessing to Crithad, it might take the teensiest edge off their parents' wrath. And it will solve Crithad's dilemma of 'what on Arda do I do with this information?'
And I hope that the parents are detectives enough to weasel out of them enough information about the elflings who led them astray to be able to go in for the kill.
Whatever happens there, though, Legolas, Galithil, Berior and Brethil are in for a painful learning experience. One that Eirienil is going to be very happy to miss. Perhaps she will take and use the knowledge that there are times when it is better to let the ellyn get on with it on their own - or perhaps she might feel that they need her restraining influence.
The elflings didn't do badly, in a way. They did stand up to Anastor and Noruil and refuse to do anything terminally stupid - like leaping off waterfalls in the dark and climb trees from which they would be bound to fall. They did look after each other - I love Galithil coming back to save Brethil (he's a good-hearted ellon, if as heedless as his adar in his younger years) - but, somehow, I think their parents are going to freeze at the prospect of Brethil-in-the-river rather than visualise Brethil-rescued.
They are soooo dead. No matter how beautiful the night and the trees and the song of the creatures and the moonbow, they will be warriors before they escape from the cages their parents are going to confine them in.
Orcs are easy, Thranduil. I'm enjoying watching you with elflings. A much tougher call.
Author's reply
We will see if their willingness to confess saves them at all. I remember a few times in life when I thought my confession should have earned me some points and it didn't. :-/
But you're right--things could have been much worse. Somehow, though, I doubt 'But ada, I didn't jump off the cliff or jump through the trees over the river' is going to be an argument that calms Thranduil down. I think you are right: the parents are going to see the Brethil-in-the-river side of the story more vividly.
But Galithil, for all his troublemaking side is a good child at heart, as you said. He has some hard lessons to learn before he will learn some restraint to go with his love of adventure.
Bottom line though--you said it, they are sooo dead. My parents would have grounded me until my wedding day if they'd caught me sneaking around at night. Now I have to go decide how much of the aftermath of this I'm going to post.
Thanks for the review! :-)
French Pony
· 9 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Two
I never knew anything about moonbows before. I shall have to go and look for a moonbow someday. But not on the advice of elflings who aren't supposed to be out at night, and I will most certainly tell Thranduil where I am going.
Probably one of the worst things about being a kid is doing something wrong but fun at just the time in life when you start to grow a conscience. The fun thing isn't so much fun after all, and just when you work up the courage to go confess, you realize that the grownups have already found out about it and they're hopping mad. And the fact that you were coming to confess doesn't count as a mitigating factor at all. It usually makes the grownups even madder.
Sigh. I feel for those kids.
Author's reply
There are really only two reliable moonbows that I know of and only one in the US--in Cumberland Falls, Ky. It is really stunning. Seeing the bright colors when everything else is dark is really incredible. And pictures can't do it justice because to expose them long enough to capture the moonbow, you end up with a picture that looks like you've taken it in the middle of the day. You have to see one in person to really appreciate it. I loved seeing the one in Cumberland.
These kids would have been much better off if they had practiced a little patience and just asked their parents about moonbows rather than trusting Anastor and Noruil. Fortunately they will live to regret their actions.
But I so agree with this: one of the worst things about being a kid is doing something wrong but fun at just the time in life when you start to grow a conscience. The fun thing isn't so much fun after all.... I remember that lesson all too well. Poor kids. They have definitely learned it here.
Thanks for the reviews, FP!
daw the minstrel
· 9 October 2005
· Chapter 4: Mischief and Moonbows--Part Two
I was impressed by Galithil's rescue of the small elflings on the rocks. He's reckless but he's not selfish. I was also impressed by Legolas's argument that they should confess. He has a finely developed conscience. I'm not sure it's going to save him though. And I think Galithil may be in more trouble than he realizes! His father looked mighty displeased.
Will they tell on the other kids? It really would be best for the wanderers if they did but it violates the kid code.
Author's reply
Hi daw. :-) Galithil is a good child at heart. I think 'reckless but not selfish' describes him pretty well, actually. He likes his adventures and he has the confidence of someone who knows too little to know better, but he cares about his younger cousins and he won't do something that he really is convinced is wrong (like flat out lying). And I remember you saying once in a review reply that you see Legolas as having had honesty drilled into him from an early age--I definitely agree with that, both given who he is and given the fact that his society would have that expectation of anyone. So I think he knows enough to feel uncomfortable being less than truthful.
But you are right--it's going to be too little, too late in this instance, poor kids.
The kids code--that makes me laugh. But you are so right. It is innate social behavior. I still haven't decided how much of the 'confession/parent's reaction' part of this I will post. It seems too much to post all I've written (overkill of a sort) so I can't say yet how that will be handled in the final version. Poor kids though--you're right. Aradunnon is mad about this one.
Thanks for the review! :-)
Dot
· 27 September 2005
· Chapter 3: Mischief and Moonbows--Part One
Ok, so I completely misread the chapter title and thought it said ‘Mischief and Monobrows’ and was seriously confused for a while, wondering which was the hairy elf…
Anyway, I’m afraid this has to be quick so I’ll zip through it…
Loved it! Galithil is hilarious. I laughed at the scene with him and the maid when she so knew what he was up to and yet couldn’t resist him. He’s lucky Legolas didn’t smack him one, though. No-one who has ever woken me in a similar manner has attempted it a second time ;-)
This morning, however, despite the fact that they were partially obscured by the trunk of the beech, Legolas could plainly see that his mother was sitting on his father’s lap and that they were kissing. Oh! I love that. I know Legolas is disgusted but I think it’s lovely that Thranduil and Lindomiel have this time together and can be so affectionate.
The breakfast table scene was so well done. Sneaky elflings and misled but clever parents. I really like the way Legolas is all cool and mature one minute and “Please, ada, can we do it?” the next.
I was only thinking about Amglaur earlier! He really appeals to me for some reason. I suppose I’ve seen his soft side ;-) How generous of him to make that gift for Brethil. The funniest line of the whole chapter has to be “Because then it would be a lesson, not a game.” Of course!
I actually found Thranduil’s affection for Brethil really touching. That elfling really will remember getting a ride on the king’s horse. I love that they’re making such a fuss of him. He’s adorable.
So how do you bake apples in honey and spice? It sounds delicious! I really enjoyed the whole scene with Crithad telling them stories. He’s a great character! He seems to be having so much fun and then his spoilsport wife ruins it! She’s hilarious too, by the way. “Well, your mother has spoken, Brethil, and we both know what that means. We will obey her.” Sounds wise to me!
After the bunny incident I didn’t get too worried this time when they heard someone approach but I certainly didn’t expect Anastor and Noruil! This is also the point where I thought “Aha, it was moonbow!” It sounds magical and I can definitely see why it would be an attraction to elves. Especially nature-loving Berior. And can I just mention that there’s something really sweet about the thought of Celonhael taking his beloved elfling on walks by the river in the evening. Legolas, as ever, has a conscience and yet is led in the end. I’m feeling really bad for Crithad. I would not like to explain to Thranduil that I lost his child. In the forest. At night. Actually, I wouldn’t like to explain that to any of the adars. But surely Thranduil secretly made Crithad agree to having the odd warrior or two wander by?! Or sleep in a nearby bush?! Eek. More please!
Author's reply
I literally fell off the couch laughing when I read how you misread the title--oh thank Heavens I didn't type it that way! Too funny!!
I am with you on the manner in which Galithil awakened Legolas. I think Legolas needs a little revenge. ;-) No one would try that twice with me either.
And I'm glad you liked the little scene with Lindomiel and Thranduil--I love the idea of them having some time together. I like to see Thranduil happy.
I grew up in a really small community--where all the children ran together and you loved and obeyed your friends' parents every bit as much as your own--and you could expect punishments from them too. So I can't help but treat Legolas's family and friends somewhat similarly. I think that elves would love elflings and really enjoy doing things like making them games and offering them horseback rides. I think the elflings would have a fairly charmed life to the extent that Mirkwood's environment would allow. I have fun showing that where I can. :-)
And the moonbow--they are incredible. I lived near one as a child. I thought it was magic when I was very little. You are exactly right--this is right up Berior's ally. And Legolas's too, poor kid. He tried to do the right thing. And Crithad! I think waking up and discovering you lost the king's son would be enough to kill you! :-)
Again, thanks for the review!
PS--Almost forgot--as for apples--next time you make an apple pie, try honey instead of whatever sugar your recipe calls for. It is delicious. I didn't name the 'spices' here because I didn't want to worry about whether Mirkwood had things like cinnamon etc--but baked apples in honey and cinnamon is yummy!
Nilmandra
· 27 September 2005
· Chapter 3: Mischief and Moonbows--Part One
LOL, well so nice to see Galithil decide to find out if punishments can be three times worse if they are public and done after such an admonition to behave!
I am wondering if Brethil's father might only be pretending to sleep, but I fear not... and somehow know this little group is going to get caught. A moonbow though? I like that idea. :D
Author's reply
if punishments can be three times worse if they are public and done after such an admonition to behave! ROTFL!! Oh yes--this will only be the first of many such lessons for this poor elfling. But you are so right!
And moonbows are really cool. They can be from rain at night, just like a rainbow, but then they are usually just a white arch. But ones that form at the feet of waterfalls are usually intensely colored. I lived near Cumberland Falls as a child an it had a moonbow. I loved going to see it and I thought is was magic when I was very young.
Thanks so much for the reviews! :-)
Dot
· 27 September 2005
· Chapter 2: Creatures of the forest
Hi, Elliska. Sorry I’m so late with this. First no computer, then I was supposed to be concentrating on RL stuff so I wasn’t allowing myself to do much in the way of fanfic until after today. This was so tempting, though!
Puppies and elflings and horsies and bunnies… What an adorable chapter! I’m glad to see Tulus appear again. He really interests me. I don’t know how he kept a straight face, though, when he encountered this lot! I just love they way all the elflings turn to Legolas when Tulus demands an explanation. And Galithil! Well, he’s… brave. I hope he’s properly trained if he’s a warrior when he’s older because he seems like he’d do his own thing if he thought he was right. The conversation was too cute. Those elflings were so concerned about the dogs! I thought Tulus did very well :-)
“War horses do not like to have ribbons braided into their tales.” LOL! As long as nothing urgent happens and the warriors have to ride out straight away, with such pretty horses!
How much energy does Galithil have?? I’m worn out just reading about the busy day they’re all having and he won’t sit still for a few minutes! In fairness to him, he’s a great one for technicalities – it probably didn’t even dawn on their parents that when they forbade hunting they should have specified that it included using slingshots!!
I laughed so much at the female osprey and the nest! Well, there’s no doubt as to her opinion of it anyway! Does that really happen? It’s amazing what I learn from you people!
I think my heart skipped a beat when something moved in the bushes. I was bracing myself for danger and out leaps… a rabbit. The poor little thing. I feel a little for Galithil too. We caught a glimpse of his soft side there and I think he’d feel really bad if he had actually hurt the rabbit.
Oh, how I loved that image of Thranduil with his dogs! It’s my favourite part of the chapter. I especially love the way the mother dog rests her head on his leg. No wonder the other two were so amused.
And I’m still grinning at the elflings completely ignoring the guards and with no idea that three of their fathers are watching. I love the thought of Thranduil as a mischievous elfling. Dieneryn should tell us some tales!
I’m glad to see Dolgailon settled down with Arthiel. It’s rather amusing to watch him being told something’s none of his business by his young cousin. I thought Arthiel was very good with them. She makes them think too. What’s she doing being a forester when she should be a teacher?? Or a mother ;-)
The releasing of the rabbit was very sweet. I really like how Thranduil and Lindomiel point out how they’ve helped it. I love the way the dogs all rush towards Thranduil on the way back and the puppies help return the elflings to good spirits. It would seem that Tulus is becoming quite close to them all too… So the elflings get to learn to track and to train pups?! That should keep even Galithil busy for a while!
Lovely chapter :-) I’m looking forward to reading the next one when I get home from work.
Author's reply
Hi Dot--I know exactly what it's like to be behind. :-) I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. It was fun to write. I like Tulus too--we will see a bit of him in this. And this: I hope he’s properly trained if he’s a warrior when he’s older because he seems like he’d do his own thing if he thought he was right. I laughed when I read that--a warrior who just makes his own charge into battle--who does that sound like? You hit the nail on the head there, as you will eventually see. And he is just constantly in motion, as you said. And, as you also said, he does have a good heart/a softer side--he's just got a long way to go to learn some maturity/restraint (which given that these elflings are supposed to be fairly young in these early parts, is not too unusual). And I am glad you liked the ribbons in the horse's mane--I can just see the expressions on the warrior's faces.
My favorite part also was Thranduil with his dogs. The Hobbit mentions the dwarves hearing hunting dogs, so I am assuming they were Thranduil's and I think he'd be great with them. :-)
I love the thought of Thranduil as a mischievous elfling. Dieneryn should tell us some tales! If I can get myself in gear, you will see some young Thranduil stories soon.
Thanks so much for the reviews. I really appreciate them. :-)
Author Reply: Oh and I forgot to mention about ospreys--yes, they really do that (or at least ones in Florida do). The male builds the nest and the female goes and inspects it. If she likes it, then they mate and raise some hatchlings together. If not, she pushes the nest out of the tree and he tries again until he gets the nest as she likes it. They mate for life, so he has to get it right eventually every year. I love ospreys. I think they are great--and they're beautiful too.
perelleth
· 26 September 2005
· Chapter 3: Mischief and Moonbows--Part One
Why is it that despite the many stories read and told about how bad things can go to children (and elflings) who misbehave, they still do it whenever the cahnce presents itself? A group of elflings alone and awake is sure recipe for disaster, isn't it? Then, what idea to tell the such frightening stories and give them ideas!:-)
Galithil is such a funny mix of both his parents! I can easily picture him charming the staff into whatever he's plotting... and poor Legolas is too young to hold on to his best judgement! So the happy and carefree troup is chasing the moonbow and.. who knows what else?
Author's reply
I don't know what it is with kids and sneaking out at night--it is still a mystery to me, even though I did it myself. It is so stupid! ;-) Oh yes, these kids are trouble waiting to happen, though they may not intend it. :-) Galithil does have a certain charm, even at his age--he is definitely his parents' (and his grandfather, Oropher) son. Yes, chasing moonbows...poor parents--I wonder if elves can have heart attacks? ;-)
Thanks for the reviews!
Brazgirl
· 26 September 2005
· Chapter 3: Mischief and Moonbows--Part One
Hey, is that true that a couple of days ago was your birthday (or should I say begetting day!)?? If it was... happy birthday! Happy Bithrday! May the Valar shine on your path ;-)
Now on the chapter...
I feel that something wrong will happen there! Oh, those boys! At least Legolas was coaxed to go with those boys. The same doesn't apply to Galithil, unfortunately. I wonder what will uncle and adar say.
Thranduil is right: that elf was very brave to be in charge of the group of elflings! I wouldn't do it!!!
It was very, very funny when Galithil spotted Thranduil and Lindomiel in her... private moment of fun! Hahahaha! Legolas knows how to handle his cousin, anyway.
Wonderful chapter, very entertaining! It is always a pleasure to read your chapters!!!!
Hugs and Haaaaaaaaaaaappy Birthday!
Brazgirl
Author's reply
Hi Brazgirl! Yes, on the 23rd. Thanks so much for the birthday wish and the review!
Yes, 'those boys' is right! I am so glad not to be the mother of boys! They get in trouble even when they are not trying to get in trouble. I feel sorry for Crithad--it would be terrible to have to admit to the king that you lost his son.
I'm glad you liked the little scene with Lindomiel and Thranduil--I like giving them those moments. :-)
Again, thanks!!
The Karenator
· 26 September 2005
· Chapter 3: Mischief and Moonbows--Part One
Well, you know the saying: Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. The little squirts know they shouldn't go traipsing off in the woods in the middle of the night, but what's an elfling to do? There's a moonbow to be seen. Off they go while their guard...dear old dad, Crithad...is sawing logs. Trouble is on the horizon. And you, of course, have left us on pins and needles about what lurks in the dark beside benign moonbows. We have to take into account all the scary stories Crithad has been telling them too. Great setup for a scary (and disobedient) trip into the dark.
Galithil's manner of waking Legolas was cute. He got such a kick out of starting Legolas's day off with a bang. I don't blame Legolas for being less than amused with the rude awakening. I'd be mighty cranky myself if someone jumped on me first thing. But Legolas got over it when he was reminded that there was 'mission' to be accomplished. Cute...and so kid-like. And, they caught the king and queen smooching. Well, yuk. I'm sure they see that as a waste of time. Give them time...give them time.
Great chapter, Elliska. You've captured the sly nature of manipulative kids and the parents who really know better, but are willing to extend a chance to the little scamps. I'm sure after the parents find out about the great moonbow adventure, they'll be most unhappy. Let's hope the little truants don't run into anything terribly dangerous.
I look forward to the next chapter.
Karen
Jay of Lasgalen
· 26 September 2005
· Chapter 3: Mischief and Moonbows--Part One
*Sigh* I always thought Thranduil was wise and clever. After all the stories where Legolas sneaks off when he's supposed to be staying with a friend (albeit by different authors!) you'd have thought that he knows better by now.
If I was him, I'd have set an entire company of guards around them, *AND* tied Legolas to a tree for good measure!
The moonbow sounds lovely, though - what will they find when they get there, I wonder?
Author's reply
I am just cracking up reading that! Too true! Poor Thranduil can defend the Woodland Realm against Dol Guldur for an entire age without a Ring of Power but he can't keep dwarves, Gollum or elflings in his stronghold. So much for those magic doors, huh? ;-) And so much for my defense of the Elvenking! :-)
But you are not too far off the mark in your statement, just give Legolas a few more years to really earn it.
Moonbows are really stunningly beautiful. I used to live near the one in Cumberland Falls, Kentucky and we went to see it several times when I was younger. If they are caused by rain and the moon, then they usually just look like a white arch in the sky. But if they are caused by the mist of a heavy waterfall during a full moon, you get the whole visible spectrum of colors. And at night, when all the colors around you are muted, when you see that, it is amazing. Something I can definitely see as 'magic' that woodelves would love.