Second Mum by Larner

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elanor winterflowers · 31 May 2007 · Chapter 10: Missing

A terrific chapter--I so enjoyed reading! And I found myself both surprised and pleased to know that Merry had left a letter. Back in the day before people I knew then got serious about filling in the gaps, I remember vigorous arguments being brought to discussions about whether or not those left behind knew anything of the Travellers' fates as the year wore on. People were, for the most part, casually willing to suppose that the four of them just disappeared and nobody made a fuss of it--because it wasn't in the book. For myself, though, I couldn't imagine the families passing the year with no news; I always thought it would have been a grinding ordeal, and most especially for the Great Smials and Brandy Hall, whose sons were only sons and Heirs. Your story adds the dimension of the Hall's love for Frodo, which makes it all the more devastating. A wonderful example of the power of vignettes. Perfectly plotted and charactered and, as usual, brimful of enough detail to convince me you live there, and have done forever. Who are you, really? :)

Author's reply

I don't quite understand the psychology of those whose complaint is, "But it doesn't say that in the book." I've received that more than once on one site where my stories are reviewed, in fact. Well, if it says the end result happened but doesn't tell you the details as to the particular situation that led to that result, can't we, as individuals seeking to fill in the blanks, do so at our own discretion with a degree of license to create circumstances that fit within the constraints of the times and peoples involved as much as we've been allowed to see? I mean, that makes great sense to me, but not to some others. And on occasion I laugh when someone says that to something that isn't touched on in LOTR itself but is covered in the Appendices or Tolkien's letters and so on. Had a couple people inform me that there was no way Merry and Pippin had any idea as to the Elves' knowledge of the nature of the Undying Lands and Tol Eressëa, in spite of the fact these were friends with Legolas; Sam and Pippin at least had had access to Bilbo's translations of Elven writings, histories, and legends; Merry did research in Rivendell's libraries; and all had the chance to ask questions of Elrond and Galadriel during their journey north from Gondor and later were able to consult with Aragorn and Arwen, the twins, Glorfindel, and Celeborn and any other Elves they might meet over the years. (Much of that is from the Appendices, btw.) So, I wrote that Pippin gave as part of the reason why he was abandoning the Shire after his wife's death the fact he recognized he and Merry were suffering from bouts of the Sea Longing from having consumed lembas, this effect having been described in one of the Master's letters; and after seeing Éomer off he and Merry wanted to be by Aragorn and Arwen, who would understand how they felt. I even gave what I felt was a fully plausible reason how he could have come to the point of diagnosing the condition in himself. The response that allegedly this wasn't supported by canon was amazing. I then took the question to the HASA list and TheOneRing.net to ask opinions there on whether or not this was possible, and the concensus was that my theory was not only possible but likely. Whether or not the two who so authoratively questioned my premise were aware of the debate they generated I don't know, but at least I felt exonerated from the accusation I was exceeding canon. In writing LOTR Tolkien gave our heroes a rather sketchy background, family, land, relationships, physical descriptions. We, as fanfic writers, are giving more depth to the situation out of which they rise than he did. I can write Esmeralda as warm and loving and perhaps a bit overprotective; someone else can write her as bitter and standoffish; another person as a vapid individual who had little to do with the running of the Hall or Buckland's business, and we all stand an equal chance of being right or wrong or anywhere in between. And if I happen to like the idea that Frodo had dark hair and startling blue eyes and bitten nails a la Elijah Wood while someone else chooses lighter than normal hair and brown eyes a la Bakshi and another choses something more middle-of-the-road, that's OUR choice and it's not someone else's place to criticize UNLESS and UNTIL we start openly plagiarizing. So, I have the families given a bit of warning; and I loved Baylor's story in which she indicates Merry did have a bit of a talk with Merry before he left, realizing Merry was planning something and assuring himself his son had reason to do whatever it was he was planning to do; and I have them leaving letters, with Paladin and Saradoc receiving theirs but not the Gaffer, who after all lives just down the Hill from Bag End and Lotho when they're due to be delivered. So--you're getting a bit of an essay--sorry about that, but that question of "But it's not in the book" is one that has meaning to me. And am so glad you like the use of these vignettes. I'm not trying to do in depth--just sufficient moments to give a feeling for how the families are likely to have reacted. Thanks so much for your comments and your patience.

Lily · 31 May 2007 · Chapter 10: Missing

A very good chapter, dear. The darkness closes from beginning to end, until the very last bit lifts the shadowy veil again. I plan on doing a Troubles in Buckland fic myself once I get the ten pages of ideas work themselves into a plot, so I'm very interested to see how others picture what happened in Buckland at the time.

Author's reply

Ten pages of ideas already? My heavens--you are thorough! I've read a couple views, and felt enough time had elapsed since they were posted mine wouldn't be construed as possibly a criticism of theirs. But it's fun to see how different people view the same time period or deal with the same situation. Considering the depth you've given to the characters of Merimac, Saradoc, Berilac, and their situation there in Brandy Hall, I'm certain it will be one that will feel very real. And thanks so for the view on this chapter. I wanted it to give a pretty thorough feel for that entire thirteen month period.

Grey Wonderer · 31 May 2007 · Chapter 10: Missing

It is just wonderful. I can't imagine how you managed to put all of those events into one chapter. You covered everything so very well. I like the fact that Saradoc and Esmeralda had some news and that some of it came from Farmer Maggot by word from Tom himself. LOL Maggot's words about Tom not having a good grasp of time and the description of the hobbits getting into a little trouble sounded so like the very way Tom must have seen it all. This is just wonderful. Oh, wait, I've said that already. (But it really is worth repeating.)

Author's reply

Thank you, G.W. This was at one and the same time one of the easiest and most difficult chapters to write. Considering Maggot's characterization by Tom as one who's wise in the ways of the land and the people amongst whom he lives, I can't see him as being purposely cruel (in one story I read quite a while ago he was downright sadistic); and considering his treatment of Frodo on finding him in his fields he appears to have had a fairly decent opinion of that Baggins rascal to begin with. That he'd be one of those who carried word the four were started on their journey seemed logical. Tom, being Eldest and living almost isolated, wasn't likely to pay attention to calendars, but rather to changes in weather and the rhythms of vegetation and the seasons, and so I chose to describe him this way--more an Elvish outlook rather than a mortal one. And I can't see Tom taking Old Man Willow's vindictive behavior too seriously--I think he'd have more concern for the wights' predations. So glad you found it enjoyable. And thanks for the comments.

harrowcat · 30 May 2007 · Chapter 10: Missing

Ah, well yes I didn't manage to wait til I got into bed to read! Absolutely brilliant Larner. What a whirlwind fly though the War of the Ring and the Time of the Troubles as seen by Esme and Sara of Buckland! But Alls well as is ending better! Now off to bed to dream of dancing hobbits I hope and not black riders or mount Doom. Back up the motorway tomorrow to take Jet for a nice long walk I hope in spite of all the nasty rain that stopped me camping! Just been told that Mum is back on bed rest for yet another pressure sore! Communication is something my parents don't think about as I could have been at home this last week and at least kept her company!

Author's reply

So glad that you found it moving, as I did, also. This must have been the most horrible year most Hobbits of the Shire ever lived through; but now it's over and Master and Mistress are renewed with the hope of it as they realize all within the Shire shall know rejuvenation along with them. A friend on one of my discussion lists also lives in England and was complaining of 46 straight hours of rain. As we live in a similar climatic zone here in the Pacific Northwest I can empathize. Our week has bounced between breezy, sunny, sprinkling small amounts of precipitation, and today downright hot for the state of Washington. Typical Washington weather--don't like it? Wait--it will change. Car goes in for its new bearing--finally--tomorrow. Am so glad to see it fixed. Work's been mad, and one of my clients has been driving us crazy with her shifts of mood. But all should go well enough, I think. Dogs are asleep about my feet, and I need to get up and move a bit. It was a relief to finally get this posted. Hughes has been going up and down at will, and it's been difficult to get anything updated on any of the sites I post on. Anyway, love to Jet and your folks. Another pressure sore? No fun for her, I know.

shirebound · 30 May 2007 · Chapter 10: Missing

How fascinating to see this year through the eyes and thoughts of those left behind in the Shire. And this is especially wonderful... Better maimed in body than crippled in spirit, advised a second voice, and she seemed to see the largest of the Western Shapes nod in agreement at the wisdom of those words.

Author's reply

Yes, I rather thought the Valar themselves would be watching and finding a way to take a hand, even if it was inspiring Gollum to bite off a finger to remove the source of Infection. A most terrible amputation, but a necessary one. That year must have seemed almost more than any could bear while it lasted.

harrowcat · 30 May 2007 · Chapter 10: Missing

Now that was a frustrating half hour Larner. Just about to go to bed when your alert came up - too much to resist of course = and then I couldn't get into it! So, back tomorrow when I've read it in bed! Night, night!

Author's reply

Windows is playing games with the file--it took the initial paragraphs of most sections and put them at the end of the blasted file, and then each time I try to install the new chapter at FFN it won't save the changes. I don't know WHAT'S going on. It's on here properly edited, of course. But, REALLY! Sorry I had to hide the chapter from you, but at least now you can read it as it was intended, not that gross thing that Windows or the editor here reduced it to! Gads!

Linda Hoyland · 29 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

I am very glad not to be related to Lotho and Lobelia !Thank Goodness Frodo sees Sam's true worth.

Author's reply

Oh, I am, too, although I had a couple relatives who were anything but warm and supportive. Mine were more foolish than actively destructive, though. And Frodo does indeed know Sam's worth.

Linda Hoyland · 29 May 2007 · Chapter 8: Older Cousin

It is nice to see Pippin and Sam, poor Narcissa doomed to unrequited love.

Author's reply

Yes, it was here that Pippin and Sam came into the story; and unfortunately Frodo feels he can't return Narcissa's love and caring, fearing that if he tries that monster he believes within himself will get out and destroy her. So glad you had time to read.

harrowcat · 29 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

I suppose that you can't always avoid difficult people! Esme handles her with great dignity even under the most adverse conditions. Frodo had good teachers. It is exactly like Esme to be keeping track of Frodo even at a distance. It shows her confidence that she names her source to Lobelia. So Pippin starts his avoidance techniques early although it is obvious that Merry's parents are complicant in this. I would love to hear a conversation between the parents at this point in his life. Frodo is obviously taking his responsibilities as family head very seriously. I am glad that the feud is sorted before Lobelia's death. What, if anything, do you think Frodo did about these responsibilities when he left the Shire? Bilbo had no opportunity to make any arrangements but Frodo had quite a while. I love the conversation between Pearl and Frodo. So much detail and yet another story link! *g* Nice to see the difference between her and Pippin in their choice of abode. And Frodo admitting, even vaguely, what the Ring is doing to him is heart-breaking. Frodo shows the sort of mind that stands him in such good stead as Deputy Mayor in helping Pearl and Begonia. I also heard echoes of the way Aragorn hands Eowyn over to Eomer when he is healing her in Frodo suggesting they send for Isumbard. You bring out the differences between Gilda and Lalia very well. The former who would work alongside the paid servants while the latter holds the puse strings so tightly they looked ready to snap. Not a happy ending to the affair. Not an ending at all if Lobelia has her way. The dancing episode is so sad. Frodo is stuggling to understand himself and noone near can help. Bilbo might have done but he is far away and letters are infrequent at best. Brendi has learned to embrace the joy of the day - a lesson for us all and Frodo too! Sam's birthday is great. Love the touch with the mushrooms! And the youthfulness plot thickens. So Merry's preoccupation with Frodo has been noticed. Maybe that helps his parents to understand a little more when he disappears. Frodo is consistantly helpful to the Sackville-Baggins' in spite of all the hatred in return. Lobelia is just beginning to appreciate those who have sttod by her. Frodo's struggles with the Ring over his feelings for Narcissa are so painful I could weep for both of them. The conversation under the stars adds to that. And so the Adventure is underway. Saradoc is so close on the trail. Like seeing him as Master and believing in good communication between Master Thain and Mayor. A great example for Merry, Pippin, Frodo and, later, Sam too. Snippits they might be but enough to show us growth and change and fill in more gaps. Lovely Larner.

Author's reply

Esme and Lobelia both show some growth in this chapter, I think. Esme knows Frodo, and knows that although he might have taken part in raids on pantries and gardens and so on, he'd not take things that actually mean things to others, which is a good part of why he stopped raiding when he did, once he realized that doing so took food from other folks' mouths and pay from other people's pockets. Yes, Pippin has realized that in a lose-lose situation, the only way to truly win is to find the way that allows you at least some pleasure along the way; and he's showing his own determination early in life. Frodo's as responsible to all his family as he is to those of the family name; in fact he's already showing he cares for those beyond family, as you point out showing he is indeed likely to be one of the best ones to ever serve in the Mayor's office. He's even able to continue to feel compassion and to show it to those who have been his worst enemies, another thing far too many aren't able to accomplish. I'd not thought of the correspondence to Aragorn giving over Eowyn to her brother's care, but now you've pointed it out it does seem very obvious. My thought was that this showed indeed that Frodo is able to let go a relationship he realizes has ended, and accept that Pearl has found the right one for her. To realize that one has been worshipping a dream and not truly loving another as he is is something a good many folk never learn to do. And where Menegilda learned from her mistakes and learned to let go, Lalia became merely more grasping and controlling as time went on, although even she managed to keep enough humanity to accept the advice given by Pearl--at least part of the time. We begin to see the effects of the Ring more openly now, although no one realizes as yet what it is that is causing Frodo to doubt his own integrity. And Frodo finds he can open up a little--a very little, at least. And in the end the Adventure is begun, and all will return home profoundly changed. Sara has an idea indeed, but not a great one--just enough to hope that Merry's right that this is truly needed. It's going to take a great deal of faith for him and Esme to see this through.

harrowcat · 28 May 2007 · Chapter 8: Older Cousin

The Gaffer reminds me very much of my own Dad. Sam wouldn't dream of speaking less than respectfully to his 'elders and betters' in spite of a great deal of self-respect, especially when on his own territory and when speaking of what he knows. Esme is going to be a great Mistress of the Hall. Well able in her own right. I am so glad that you got Gandalf entertaining Pippin and his farm animals into this! It really sets us up for his exasperated fondness for Pippin later. Frodo and the children is lovely and the 'water worms' in more detail! Yipee. Bilbo makes a wonderful Guardian and would probably have been a great Father but what would have happened to Frodo if that had been the way it happened. One thing that always fascinates me about LOTR is the way every tiny thing is inter-linked and the out-come relies on each thing happening and at the right time. I know exactly how Frodo feels about ponies but in my case it is dogs. I would love one of my own but life and circumstances mean I have to enjoy them in short bursts. But parting with Jet each Friday evening is very hard! I love the whoe graves episode and I had to smile when Sam produces a handkerchief - learned to keep then handy from Bilbo no doubt! I like how Frodo is experienced enough to get Pippin a plate of food first to keep him busy! *g* I am glad that Gomez has grown up and that Frodo has learned to use his Punch. And you fitted in Frodo's arm going to sleep under his cousins. Brilliant! What a lovely peaceful end for Menegilda. Many will mourn her in spite of us wanting to throttle her at first! The dancing scene is lovely, especially that Rosie has set her heart on Sam so early! Trust Esme to sense what is going on with Bilbo. And also that her thoughts are about how it will affect Frodo. Of course Narcissa would have been a better match for Frodo but this isn't the first heart-ache the Ring has caused. Great chapter as usual Larner and I hope to get round to reviewing the next one tomorrow. I have a few days off and WAS going camping but the weather has turned very wet, cold and windy. Not a good combination for a tent! So I got a ticket for LOTR - the Musical showing at the Drury Lane Theatre. The staging was wonderful and the special effects fantastic- especially the Balrog, the spider and the Orcs. The latter came up into the audience during the second interval! But the Prof should be turning in his grave over the story line. I know it is impossible to put it into 3 hours but you do not need to combine Theoden and Denethor into one character! Nor do Tolkien's Elves fly! I overheard two women as we were waiting in a queue for you know where. One had neither read the book nor seen the films and was understandably confused! And this was supposed to be a birthday treat for her! I suspect they left after the first act. Glad to have seen it for the staging but still fuming over the editing!

Author's reply

I didn't wish this story to go into the depth I put into "For Eyes to See as Can" (not that it was supposed to reach the length it has, either, of course--I find these persistent little nuzguls that masquerade as plotbunnies very diffiuclt to deal with at times, as I hate leaving off and letting them sit there and eye me while working on other things, as their expressions can be most difficult to deal with), so went with the idea of small vignettes, many of which have yet become more involved than I'd originally intended. I felt we needed to see Esme's growing impressions of Frodo and his relationships as they develop, as she begins to appreciate those who will mean the most to him as he matures. Baylor's story of Gandalf playing at making byres for Pippin out of china and cutlery is here referenced, of course, and indeed presages the special relationship the Grey Pilgrim is to know with this Fool of a Took; and we see how Frodo is in his element as guardian and nurturer and guide--to the point as you note he knows that if Merry's going to be able to eat his own meal without grave discomfort Pippin needs his own attention fixed on a decent meal. And even had Bilbo married (which I suspect wouldn't have happened until after the trip to the Lonely Mountain), I suspect that there would have been a way provided for him to still find himself embracing the needs of his young cousin, although I suspect the Ring Itself would never have allowed Bilbo to seek a wife. It's on the foundation built by those from whom we've learned most that we ourselves build our own lives, and Frodo and Sam have both known the loss of at least one parent by the time LOTR starts; that Frodo would have sought to comfort his friend in his own ongoing grief seemed right, as did the idea that the young Hobbits would respond to the graveyard by seeking to make tidy when they can do no more--the one form of comfort they can give and take, even if they have no direct experience with loss as yet. Gomez has grown since he nearly drowned and suffered hypothermia, while Frodo has dealt his warning blow to Tolman Smallburrow, who failed to learn his lesson in the end, I fear. I DO love twisting new stories into the web of former ones, after all. Menegilda still foresees Frodo is likely to suffer in the future, but at least she has grown wise enough not to seek to rob him of NOW any longer. And I suspect that Sam and Rosie have known an understanding from EARLY on. I always loved that allusion Tolkien gives us of Sam and the Cotton lads and their sister Rosie paddling along the Water, you know, and the way she declares herself when he shows up at the Cotton's doorstep to face that pitchfork. Now, if only that Ring hadn't itself robbed Frodo of so much. The description you give of the musical is wonderful, and I SO wish I could see it, although I'm livid they have the Elves flying and have further bastardized Theoden and Denethor! Oh, good grief! WHY? Not needed! Hope you like the next chapter, and hope to have another posted in a day or two. Getting the wheel bearing replaced this week and the car serviced next week if I can. Sorry about the no camping--we had HOT weather this morning (for our region, at least) followed by a distinct coolness not an hour later, and now all is clear and bright with a comfortable breeze; but any tent set up yesterday would likely have ended up being blown away. Ah, well--such is life.

French Pony · 28 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

As always, an absorbing and endearing look at the too-often-marginalized side characters of the Shire. I did especially enjoy the double portrait of those two fearsome ladies, Lobelia and Lalia. Lobelia comes off as that special blend of nasty and batshit that I always imagined her as. Too mean to be humored, but too crazy to be properly put in her place. And even though Lalia never appears in person, you can see so much of her personality in the effect she has on other people. Frodo and Esme show great skill and diplomacy in dealing with these ladies.

Andrea · 27 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

Dear Larner, "Todays portion", as you called it, was simply perfect! I admired how Esme dealt with Lobelia during their first conversation, or should I say confrontation? Primula feared Lobelia's sharp tongue, it seems, but Esme was well prepared to give her the appropriate answers! And then Lalia's accident! Frodo was handling the situation perfectly. I think it tells a lot about his reputation among his relatives that not only Esme was waiting desperately for his arrival! Esme's observation of Frodo watching Narcissa was heart-breaking! That cursed Ring! At first, Frodo did not know what was happening, and then he blamed it all on himself. How typical! Sometimes I wished Bilbo had never found the Ring. But what would have become of Middle Earth then, I wonder? Although I don't like Lobelia, I was really moved by her conversation with Esme about her husband's funeral! In LotR someone called Frodo "the bestest hobbit in the Shire" (was it Hamfast or Sam, I can't recall). I only know that that person was absolutely right! At last, they have arrived at Crickhollow. Esme will find out very soon what the "prickling of foreboding" means! Poor Esme, I feel with her!

Kitty · 27 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

‚Nasty old bat’ is certainly the nicest name I’m able to come up with at the moment. Oh, I enjoyed it *so* much, how Esme shut her up! The way you described Lalia’s behaviour, it is only too understandable, even if not right, that Pippin so often ran away, poor little lad. It’s difficult to cope with people like her. Interesting conversation between Frodo and Pearl. Though I find it difficult to understand Pearl would rather take up with Lalia than live on the farm. But of course, all my female relatives would agree wholeheartedly with Pearl. And even if Frodo may not know, it is obvious the Ring is working at him, isn’t it? Why do I get the feeling the Tooks will all be glad to be rid of Lalia? Of course there had to be some talk, as there are people who *always* have to say something bad about everyone, and I am glad they examined the chair and Frodo insisted it had to be made known nobody was at fault for Lalia’s death. Though Ferumbras didn’t chose his words very well to announce that *sigh* The bit about Narcissa was depressing, but considering the urges It induced in Frodo, it was probably for the best he realised what would happen if he approached it. But still ... *sigh* The only comfort is to know at least Narcissa was later happy with Brendi. And I see, there is only a very short time left before they all vanish from the Shire. Poor Esme, it will be such a nasty shock for her! Though I look forward to see all that from her POV.

Author's reply

Esmeralda is a Took turned Brandybuck and has had the example of Menegilda for several years to learn how to deal with folks; I think that having spotted that locket she'd have been moved to particular eloquence in bringing Lobelia to her well-deserved comeuppance. So glad you approved. I had a former boss who was just the type of personality I've ascribed to Lalia--could NOT be pleased; and one of my grandmothers was very similar. Had family members and friends who couldn't wait to get away to a far different environment once they were able to get out on their own, and Pearl is patterned on them. And unfortunately the Ring is coming vaguely awake and doing Its best to awaken the basest It can find within Its range, particularly within Its bearers. I always felt that there would be problems with that chair that led to its and its owner's mutual destruction; and according to Tolkien's own letter there was a fair amount of gossip that Pearl herself was to blame for the accident; that Ferumbras's own manner of presenting that string of pearls might add to the rumor mill seemed likely. After all, Lalia didn't do much to assist her son to reach the heights of his potential. Yes, Narcissa later finds happiness in marriage to Brendi, but never the perhaps more intense joy she might have known with Frodo, much less the joy he might have known from a marriage to her. He did deserve to know that joy, of course; it's still a grief that he didn't have that experience while living as a Hobbit of the Shire. No, a few days before she and Sara realize that Frodo has fled the Shire, and their son and nephew and Sam with him. I hope I can do that realization from Esme's POV justice.

Grey Wonderer · 27 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

(Pippin nodded. "She doesn't like it when I'm there, and she doesn't like it when I leave, neither. So I may as well go be with one of you so I don't have to listen to it.") This is true Pippin logic right here. I liked the way his relatives were more amused than angry at him for running off. (Esmeralda Took found herself supremely glad that she would not be amongst those expected to carry Lalia to her grave. ) This made me laugh out loud. There is a lot of Took in Esmeralda in spite of her being married to a Brandybuck! (Merry had convinced Sara to sell Frodo the Crickhollow house,) You know, Merry is involved in every major step in Frodo's life starting with his being at the house the day after Bilbo leaves the Shire and helping Frodo with things to all of the things he helped set in motion when the time came for Frodo to leave. Reading this reminds me. On some level I think Merry's parents had to know he was leaving. All of the clues were there and I wonder if perhaps they wanted them explained away and took Merry's reasoning easier than they should have. I am all caught up now and looking forward to more. I hope you've been writing while I've been reading! : )

Author's reply

I'd think, as you have made so clear in your own stories, that from the youngest age Pippin has managed to worm his way into everyone's heart, and that all tend to indulge him and find charming in him behavior that in others would lead them to smack their heads with frustration--yes, Pippin logic at work, and all just fall to and accept it. Of course Esme remains a Took in the depths of her heart--glad it gave you a laugh. I'd not thought of that consciously, but you are right--Merry is the one who plans consciously for the future, once he has an idea as to what Frodo's general plans are--Merry's the one to think in terms of seeing to it the specifics are appropriate to the need. Thank you for bringing that out. And I agree--Merry's folks are beginning to be aware, and Sara perhaps more so as the next chapter makes clear, although it's not yet ready for posting. A day or two, I think.

Grey Wonderer · 27 May 2007 · Chapter 8: Older Cousin

(Bilbo shrugged as he looked thoughtfully toward the door, his hand automatically slipping into his vest pocket. )Can I just say how very well you include little nods to the up-coming events in the lives of all of the characters without losing the context of your story? You do, you know. They fit in seemlessly and remind us all of what lies ahead. I thought Bilbo's description of how he was feeling and the fact that someone wanted him to be angry was an excellent description. Loved Frodo leading the children about and dear, dear, little Sam. I nearly cried over Belle myself. Oh, and Pippin and the thorns!

Author's reply

Thank you, GW. It makes sense that the Ring would have been exerting a subtle effect on Its bearers all along, even if they don't recognize it. We know that apparent changelessness of first Bilbo and later Frodo was due to the effects of the Ring; and we have Bilbo's outburst that Gandalf wants It for himself to gauge just how deeply It had sunk Its claws into the Hobbit's psyche at the time. That Bilbo might begin realizing there is a will quite outside his own trying to manipulate his moods at times seemed probable, particularly as he looks closely at leaving the Shire. For the children to have grown up so close to Frodo, it just seemed likely that Frodo must have cared deeply for them as children and must have taken on himself babysitting duties from at least time to time. There's every indication that by the time of the Party the Gaffer was a single parent; and due to that I wrote the death of Bell a few years after Frodo's arrival--long enough for him to have developed a relationship with her, and to have displayed his gift of empathy to Sam. In this the two have known similar grief, in that both have lost at least their mothers, and at much the same age; and Frodo's able to reassure Sam that there is life after such loss. As for Pippin and the thorns--that was sheer fun to write. Thanks so.

Grey Wonderer · 27 May 2007 · Chapter 7: Gone to Be the Young Master

(I have a suspicion that our Sam will be quite a surprise to the Shire one day, when all of a sudden all realize that this is nowhere as simple a soul as they think.) More foreshadowing! I love it. And Sam's flowers winning the prize too. I also found Frodo's dreams while ill about he and Merry being chased by horses for likely in light of Frodo's gifts. It's a wonder he didn't see Pippin in there somewhere without actually knowing who Pippin was! And the conversation with Tom and Maggot! This had a bit of everything and seven signatures in red ink!

Grey Wonderer · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 6: The Freeze and the Thaw

I just love Bilbo and I love him even more in this story. I laughed out loud at Merry's talk about Otho and whether or not he properly looked for them. Too funny all around!

Author's reply

Oh, I love Bilbo, too--oh, so very much. As for Merry--the logic of children, particularly ones who want someone they love to "come home" again! So glad you appreciated that. You're catching up quickly, I see.

Grey Wonderer · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 5: The Son of the Hall

It seems no matter how hard Frodo tries, someone always gets in his way. I love that Bilbo refused to give up the secret that Frodo told him. I also like the fact that only Merry gets a smile out of him. After all Merry loves him dearly just as he is while some are trying too hard to change or control him. This is wonderful by the way! : )

Author's reply

At this time it seems that Frodo can't win for losing, can he? And of course Bilbo will keep Frodo's secrets for him--he knows how important trust can be, I'd think. Yes, he'll smile for Merry, and so glad you like the way I'm showing the lad. And am so glad you're enjoying the story! Thanks so much!

elanor winterflowers · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

This was a wonderful read--each section fascinated me more than the last. I was sorry to see it end, especially at such a crossroads of history. Your Esmeralda is a marvelous creation; I especially like how she keeps her cool with Lobelia, and how proudly and lovingly she stands up for Frodo. What a splendid person she is! And, as always, the rest of the Shire are each and all ingeniously wrought and perfectly believable. The glimpse of Pippin as he began to grow up--dodging the Smials for all he was worth, admitting he was a bit of trial to his parents--was excellent. I am so sorry that Frodo must carry that wretched Ring, especially in the Shire, and that it preys upon him so that he does not trust himself. This a new twist, but utterly reasonable. Great story!

Author's reply

I've tried to bring more depth to the characters, giving even the likes of Lobelia a hint of what she might have been had she made different choices; and in dealing with Lalia I found myself thinking of a person I had to deal with whose health has been poor and who as a result tended to take out her own discomfort on others, making her even more uncomfortable to be around most of the time than she used to be. But such people would put Esme's own back up, and she'd find ways to deflate Lobelia effectively. I'd written in "For Eyes to See as Can" that most of the winter after Bilbo's leaving Pippin, as young as he was, nevertheless kept running away from the Great Smial to be with Frodo or Merry, worried at how Bilbo's leaving would effect them; so I had to explore the kinds of reasons he might have given then as to why he'd kept running away. And I'm so very glad you like Esmeralda as I've pictured her, and that you find my writing believable. Thank you so. As for the Ring--It's effects probably started before he left the Shire, and I've always suspected It had much to do with why neither Bilbo nor Frodo ever married, but especially Frodo.

Grey Wonderer · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 4: The Rascal of Buckland

(She realized with an unexpected thrill that Buckland had become home to her more than either the farm at Whitwell or the Great Smial in Tookland.) It's an odd feeling when that happens to a person and you realize that what you consider to be home has actually changed. (Esme realized that she wasn’t the only one who realized Frodo was hurt about not being allowed to ride, and that Merry was seeking to distract his cousin, and she found herself proud of the little lad she’d given birth to.) Merry does know Frodo very well already doesn't he? ( Farmer Maggot gave a final nod. “All right. And when you’re certain as he’ll understand, you can tell him I really admire him. He’s right smart, he is.”) I did love this line. It says a great deal about Maggot. I loved the way Frodo tried to keep Merry from worrying. Oh, and I do love the pranks. I always enjoy a well-thought-out prank! : )

Author's reply

We do come to see that other places displace "home" in our hearts, and I wanted to show this truth in Esme. She and Merry are both able to appreciate much of Frodo's feelings, and I believe that Merry would have found several times when he'd try his best to distract Frodo from his frustrations. And, again, Maggot was respected by Tom Bombadil, and for that to be true, I think he'd be far more understanding than Frodo gave him credit for when he was running in terror from the dogs. Frodo would seek to protect Merry as much as the child would seek to reassure and distract him, I think. Am am SO glad you like the pranks--again, do look at "Raiding" in "Moments in Time" when you have the chance--I think you particularly will appreciate it.

cookiefleck · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

Good character study of Esme. And I liked the dramatic locket scene in particular. Thank you!

Author's reply

In many ways this whole story is a character study of Esme, of course, and am glad you particularly liked that scene, as it was one that percolated for several days before it sat me down and wrote itself out. These stories do that, I find! Heh!

Dreamflower · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 9: Master of Bag End and the Hill

What a summation of the years between Bilbo's leaving and Frodo's! And heavens! You used Begonia! I'm flattered beyond words! Thank you, dear! Poor Esme--she may have a foreboding that Frodo might be thinking of leaving the Shire, but I am sure that she would never suspect that her son and her nephew will be at his side! *sigh*

Author's reply

I'm so glad you appreciated Begonia here--I didn't think you'd mind. I was only trying to add a bit of depth to Ferumbras and Lalia, each in his/her own way. I just felt Begonia as you pictured her deserved to be remembered. Yes, Esme is having her forebodings, as, I suspect, is Sara. Glad you read and enjoyed it, Dreamflower.

Grey Wonderer · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 3: Fifteenth Summer

(No, I fear our Frodo is meant to mix freely with Elves.) Truer words were never spoken. Bilbo did know his dear Frodo. All of this makes a very good case for Frodo being better off in Hobbiton with Bilbo. I loved little Merry in this chapter.

Author's reply

Indeed, that must have been a bit of foresight on the part of another family member. And am SO glad you enjoyed Merry here. Frodo must have been so devoted to him.

Grey Wonderer · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 2: The Biddable Child

So very much in this chapter! Poor Frodo being over-protected all of the time. I don't blame him for being angry since he doesn't even know what they are protecting him from. And now he has displayed his gift of sight and rescued folks from danger. It does seem that everything in his life makes him stand out from the others.

Author's reply

I, too, would be frustrated and angry if I were being treated like this, and I certainly can see how in the end he'd get more than a bit defiant. Yes, he's knowing foresight and displaying his talent for seeing things set right. And that he's an unusually responsible soul is being made clear. Do take a look at "Raiding" in "Moments in Time"--I think you'll appreciate it.

Grey Wonderer · 26 May 2007 · Chapter 1: For the Love of a Child

I could just see Frodo and all of the red ink! I also liked that you mentioned his eyes at birth. This is lovely!

Author's reply

Well, of COURSE Frodo would find the RED ink and paddle in it. What else would you think he might do? And I suspect even at birth his eyes would be remarkable. So glad you're reading now.