I am so pleased that Maglor's wife still supports him, even after all this time and having been left behind when he left with his father and siblings. It revives my belief that love is one of the strongest of emotions and can build bridges and, if with the right person, last forever.
- Erulisse (one L)
Author's reply
Yes, love is a powerful force. (Actually, she wasn't left behind. She chose to remain in Tirion.) I'm glad you liked the chapter.
Raksha The Demon
· 7 November 2010
· Chapter 19
At last - Maglor and Narmince are together again - I love the way they come together, almost inevitably, but with a nice lack of drama. I think Narmince must have oodles of patience, not to mention a sense of humor.
Maglor's right to stay away from Tirion, though forever is a long time...
Another good chapter!
Author's reply
Oh, she does! I'm really glad you like their reunion. It was a tough bit to write and edit.
Yeah, but at this point, he thinks he needs it.
Thank you!
SurgicalSteel
· 27 October 2010
· Chapter 18
I've been really bad about reviewing lately - sorry about that!
One of the things I really appreciate about this story - and this chapter in particular - is how real the reactions of many of the characters seem to me. It makes sense to me that Finarfin might not welcome the Fëanorions back with open arms - he likely had a long hard road as king of the remnant Noldor. Simply managing to convince the various other elven groups in Valinor that there wouldn't be a repeat of Fëanor's rebellion must've been difficult, and for him, it must feel on some level like 'wait, I've been working my tail off for millennia to keep the Valar's trust and keep the trust of the other elves - and the ringmaker and the kinslayer get off scot-free?' And whether that's the reality or not, I'd imagine that's how he feels.
Maglor's reactions also seem realistic to me - the only person currently walking in your Valinor who might have a glimmer of understanding of what it means to essentially be Morgoth's dupe (even if they didn't realize it at the time) is the man who was Sauron's dupe - his nephew Celebrimbor. And it makes sense to me that he'd occasionally simply need a few moments alone. I like that Elrond seems to respect that.
Finally, I appreciate that the Valar in your 'verse seem to have learned from their mistakes. They're taking much more of a hands-off approach with the elves, only intervening when it's truly necessary, not attempting to bully or trick the elves into doing what they think is best.
And one squeeful note: I loved the noise made by imploding air as Eönwë departed. My scientific side clapped like a seal at that. :)
Author's reply
It's nothing to apologize for. I'm likely worse than you. :)
Yes, that's very much how he feels, along that Maglor's return has caused a lot of headaches for him from the various factions. There's a lot going on in Valinor that simply can't be shown due to the POV. I'm very glad it makes sense to you.
Yes, Celebrimbor is one of the few people who could understand, for the reason you mentioned. It's why I couldn't leave him out.
They had to have, really. (At least, I like to think they did.) I think one of the things that hit them was the fact that their intervention with Fëanor was harmful at best, and that maybe, he was right about some of his beliefs.
*grins* The scientist in me couldn't not put it in. I tried my best to fit RAFA in with real-world science, so it had to happen. I'm glad you caught that!
6336
· 24 October 2010
· Chapter 18
Well I can't blame Elrond for being a little pissed with Maglor, but really Finafin needs to get over it. The person who is really to blame for all this is his father! If Finwe had not wanted more children and had not married Indis, Feanor would not have attacked his brother and precipitated all this.
The Silmarills might still have been stolen and the Nolder might still have left for Ennorath in a huff but things would have played out a lot differantly!
Having said all this I still think somebody needs to have a little chat with Finarfin, maybe the Elder King could drop a few hints in Finarfins ear about being adult about all this, and not blameing everybody but himself. Maglor has as much right for forgivness as the next Exile be he kinslayer or not, besides I think they were all a little crazy at that time, Feanor not the least!
If the Valar can forgive Maglor, albeit conditionally, and I have issues with that, can Finarfin say them nay?
Lynda
p.s. Maybe Fiondil's Namo can hop over to your 'verse and have one of his famous 'Little Chats' with Finarfin!
Author's reply
Yes, Finarfin does. But there will always be bad blood there. Finarfin thinks the Kinslayings are unforgivable.
The person who is really to blame for all this is his father!
Actually, I blame the Valar. If they hadn't trusted and released Morgoth, the Silmarils would never have been stolen. Furthermore, I don't think they understand the Children at all, especially not that early in M-e's history, though in the intervening years in my 'verse, they've learned from their mistakes. I can't blame Finwë for loving someone else and wanting more children.
Well, this isn't simply a family matter for Finarfin. Maglor's return has caused a lot of civil unrest in some quarters of Valinor, which he has to deal with as king. Plus, it's the first meeting between the two in Ages, when their families didn't part easily or ever really get along. He has reasons to react how he does.
If the Valar can forgive Maglor, albeit conditionally, and I have issues with that, can Finarfin say them nay?
Yes, due to free will. The Valar can't make him think or do anything, else they'd be worse than Morgoth. Secondly, it wasn't a conditional forgiveness. The restrictions were placed on Maglor because he's a criminal *and* in some danger just by living. It's roughly equivalent to someone being placed on probation in the US criminal justice system. I am curious as to why you thought it was conditional, and what your issues are.
Maybe Fiondil's Namo can hop over to your 'verse and have one of his famous 'Little Chats' with Finarfin!
My conception of the Valar, the underpinnings to my 'verse, and interpretation of the Silmarillion are completely different than his. Even if I was interested, it simply wouldn't work.
Thank you for reading, and I'm glad you're enjoying it!
ecan
· 10 October 2010
· Chapter 17
I love the interaction of the Maglor and Celebrimbor, and that Maglor now has some one to relate with. Ihope Maglor well soon see his wife.
Ecan
Author's reply
I'm glad you loved their conversation! As for his wife: soon. :)
Sunny
· 10 October 2010
· Chapter 17
"Something we have forgotten - empathy". Indeed. Other things that seem to have been forgotten is compassion and charity. Instead it seems that too many Elves in this story nurse and pamper old injustices and grievances, and when they die of old age and exhaustion, have them stuffed and mounted. :-(
I really like this story - it is interesting, and though I haven't reviewed it before, I certainly am following the story with interest!
Author's reply
Well, Elves have long memories. And when something tears apart their society, they aren't soon going to forgive or forget who caused that. Plus, things may lie buried until something stirs them up. I think there will always be cracks in Valinoran society, because there are no easy answers. (Aside from no one should have been killed.)
I'm glad you like this story, and I'm ecstatic you reviewed! Thank you!
Majoranka
· 9 October 2010
· Chapter 16
Hi, I've just come across your story and I'm absolutely blown away. The story idea itself is great, and you did a very good job of writing it. This is one of the rare finds that are not only written well, but also fit believably in Tolkien's world. Overall I think you managed to portray both Elrond's and Maglor's characters very realistically. I know how difficult it is to write emotionally charged scenes, to strike that perfect balance between conveying the powerful emotions and avoiding mushy over-the-top moments. For me, especially the meeting with Eärendil was very well written. Maglor's reaction to seeing a Silmaril - fear - rang very true to me. Elrond is great as well and it is interesting - and sometimes funny - to see him being , in fact, the father figure to Maglor here.
If I am allowed to make just one nitpick, I feel that at times Maglor's fear of physical harm is a bit exaggerated, especially in the last chapter. In my humble opinion, he has endured too much in his life to be afraid of being beaten up - because this is, I would think, the worst thing that most people in Valinor would dare to do to him, physically. Moreover, he feels he deserves punishment, so I believe he would be too ashamed to place a condition of "do not hurt me" for meeting a friend whom he has killed (or to wish he could sic his dog on said friend) :-) However, this is just my personal view of the character and I understand that others may see him differently. I am enjoying your story very much nevertheless.
I'm really looking forward to the next chapter, and to seeing more of Valinor politics, family tensions and awkward reunions. Thank you so much for writing this.
Author's reply
Thank you so much. Your review brought a huge smile to my face. I love that you thought the meeting with Eärendil rang true-- that was the most emotionally draining scene of the story to write.
I love nitpicks and concrit! Maglor's fear, I think, is reasonable, but he also suffers from an anxiety disorder, something I never explicitly mention. However, your opinion has a lot of merit as well, so thank you for telling me. :)
Thank you for reading it! :D
Raksha The Demon
· 7 October 2010
· Chapter 16
A chapter, and interaction, that manages to be humorous and sad and profound all at once. Maglor is doing very well, considering the misery that he knows he has caused - accepting forgiveness isn't always easy.
Author's reply
Thank you! No, accepting forgiveness isn't easy.
ecan
· 27 September 2010
· Chapter 15
Love this chapter. Glad to see maglor finding peace. You did a great job.
can't wait for next chapters.
Ecan
Author's reply
Thank you.
Rhyselle
· 22 September 2010
· Chapter 14
That was an utterly breathtaking chapter.
The test of Maglor being in the same place as the Silmaril was something that I've never had the courage to explore in my own writing, but you got it so right that it made me want to cry with joy for Maglor that he has been delivered from the desire to possess it.
Earendil forgave him! I sit here trying to imagine the level of relief that Maglor must feel at this time.
Well done, my dear! Well done!
Author's reply
I'm glad you think I got it *right*. It was an incredibly emotionally draining chapter to write, and I was a bit worried it was over-the-top.
Thank you so much. You brought a huge smile to my face.
UTfrog
· 19 September 2010
· Chapter 14
Still enjoying this very unusual story. Thanks
Author's reply
I'm glad you are! :D
ecan
· 12 September 2010
· Chapter 13
this is a great story Ive always had soft spot for maglor. ai hope you will continue this story soon.
ecan
Author's reply
Thank you!
Rhyselle
· 8 September 2010
· Chapter 13
This chapter gave me goosebumps!
Maglor's attitude towards uncomfortable clothing made me grin, and his nerves before performing made me nod in understanding. It wasn't performing that was the problem, but performing before a potentially hostile audience.
His surprise at the reception he got was so realistic.
That's the word that keeps coming to mind as I read this story. I don't find anything of Maglor's feelings and perceptions that appear unreasonable in the situation he is in.
Redemption is not an overnight process. It's so good to see that time is being taken as Maglor, and the people around him start coming to terms with his return and residence in Valinor.
The description of the music made me want to be there, BTW...
Well done!
Author's reply
The audience certainly makes a difference!
I'm gratified that you think his actions are realistic. It's one of the difficulties writing something like this-- it's easy to go over-the-top.
No, redemption is not overnight, and nor is it easy. And it shouldn't be, especially for him.
Thank you!
Erulisse (one L)
· 8 September 2010
· Chapter 13
Oh....a cliffhanger. Cruel woman! This meeting will be difficult for both parties, but worse still will be Elwing should she ever deign to meet with Maglor. I am reassured that Elrond truly cares for his foster-father because, in truth, Maglor raised the twins. There are so many challenges ahead for him and I am looking forward to each additional chapter. This has been great so far, as finely wrought as one of Maglor's songs!
- Erulisse (one L)
Author's reply
Thank you so much! I can't write Elrond as uncaring or hurtful. It wouldn't fit my view of him at all. And yes, there are more challenges ahead. Again, thank you. :D
Shemyaza
· 8 September 2010
· Chapter 13
Many condolences on the loss of your friend. I can empathise. I have lost two close friends to cancer in the past 10 years.
I continue to enjoy your story greatly but I also how such shocking events can impact an ability to write, so take your time to grieve and write when you feel is the right time. Your readers are not going anywhere.
Hugs...
Author's reply
Thank you. And condolences in return.
Well, actually, I'm done writing RAFA. I just have the last few chapters to edit. (I'm constitutionally incapable of posting a WIP. Too many things change when I edit.) Just finding the energy and time can be hard, though it's gotten a bit easier.
*hugs in return*
UTfrog
· 7 September 2010
· Chapter 13
So sorry to hear of the loss of your friend.
Author's reply
Thank you.
Angwen
· 5 September 2010
· Chapter 12
Liking your story very much - If I poke you with a review, will you update? ^_^ Curiosity has me hanging, as does wondering what the reaction of Elrond's parents will be to seeing Maglor again.
Author's reply
I'm glad you're enjoying it, Angwen! But you'll just have to wait for the reactions. *evil grin*
Elflingimp
· 28 August 2010
· Chapter 12
Just wanted to stop by and tell you I am enjoying your story, I am getting pulled into little by little and can't wait until he sings as he is supposed to be one of the most beautiful singers of all the elves. Hugs The Imp
Author's reply
I'm glad you're enjoying it! :D
Raksha The Demon
· 27 August 2010
· Chapter 11
I wonder why Nerdanel hasn't written...
Love the interaction between Maglor and his dog; the dog can be helpful just as a companion and someone to care for. Of course, Tirn is a first-rate guardian too!
Looking forward to more!
Author's reply
She's not yet ready to see or speak to him. But she will eventually. I'm glad you like Tirn! Thank you. :)
Erulisse (one L)
· 5 August 2010
· Chapter 9
A dog - what a perfect solution. It will allow Maglor his privacy, yet guard him unto death. I can see Maglor enjoying his own personal Huan - following in his brother's footsteps, in essence. I can't wait for the next chapter...
- Erulisse (one L)
Author's reply
He is the perfect solution, isn't he? I'm glad you're enjoying this.
Raksha The Demon
· 2 August 2010
· Chapter 9
Maglor gets a dog - yaaaay! Having a dog to protect him and for him to care for will do Maglor good.
More chapters soon, I hope!
Author's reply
Yes, yes it will. Maglor needs unconditional love right now.
6336
· 1 August 2010
· Chapter 9
Not such a bad idea, plus he will be company and he will get him up and moving in the morning, animals being what they are and demading breakfast on time!
Lynda
Author's reply
And dinner and treats... :D
I'm glad you're enjoying this!
Angwen
· 1 August 2010
· Chapter 9
Yay, an author who gave Glorfindel a wife! Woo hoo! And Maglor getting himself a rescue dog. Greatness! My cockers & I approve. Nicely written & engaging.
One thing you could consider giving them is solar-powered tech. Small hand-held devices can be charged in the sun from a backpack now. Those elves on their bikes need MP3 players. ^_^ And who's to say that they can't tap into the satellites that provide the internet in Valinor... With all his papers in the floor, poor Elrond needs an iPad. It would make sense for them to have scanned the pages of their more ancient texts into e-readers to keep the originals protected.
On your airplane issue; to avoid the electricity thing, perhaps all that sort of tech is done on Earth proper and they just keep a light maintenance bay in Valinor? And maybe there are planes in Valinor at all because someone came West in one, so it wasn't manufactured there - maybe somebody really adventurous like Gildor or one of those that disappeared or had unknown fate - Nimrodel, or something? The Twins could have conceivably built gliders already, so stepping up to a cessna someone brought over & taught them to fly wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
I been thinkin' about that one... ^_^ Awesomely engaging tale! Makin' me think and such! Can't wait for Maglor to be reunited with his wife. What do you say to a man who walked out on you like 10,000 years ago (or whatever)? He may want to duck...
Author's reply
Glorfindel needs someone!
I actually hadn't thought of Tirn as a rescue dog, but it makes sense. (My dog is a rescue dog, and any future dog I'll get will be. I may want a purebred, but I've honestly never considered a breeder-- mostly because I don't want a puppy, but also because there are a lot of dogs out there who need homes.)
Solar-powered tech is a bit far from their tech levels how I invision them in RAFA. (I think it's about 1900s-ish.) But if I write more in the future, I'm definitely going to use it. As for the airplane: that's a *very* good idea. (Heck, one of the twins could have brought it over.) Thank you!
I'm glad I'm making you think! As for what his wife will do, you'll just have to wait. :P
Shemyaza
· 20 July 2010
· Chapter 7
Your story is immensely interesting and well written. You're painting a very unforgiving picture of Valinor millennia and millennia on from the Kinslaying and I think that perhaps you are accurate in that portrayal to a large degree. I'm honestly not sure that the Maiar would have had to manhandle Maglor to that degree, I think that they would have been able to immobilise him without physical violence. I also think that they would have a measure of mercy left in them, despite everything that had happened. Maglor was not his father. Yes, he killed other Elves, but plenty other kinslayers were probably reborn, were they all treated so inhumanely and coldly? To err is human, to forgive Divine...and because the Valar forgave Maglor, albeit with a few caveats, I believe that the Maiar would have done likewise.
I think putting him in the care of Elrond was probably a humane and an act of poetic justice on the part of the Valar and is a very good notion on your part as a writer. I'm sure that Maglor would not have gone back to Valinor and not expected judgement or punishment of some kind, but it seems rather sad that he, being the only one of the Feanorian brothers to survive should carry the brunt of the judgement and punishment for all of them which is how it seems.
The Avari were those who didn't travel with the others to Valinor after the awakening, I'm not entirely sure they would ever have answered the call to Valinor since they were not wholly aware who the Valar were or even why they should answer the call of Mandos. I imagine they would have possibly have faded away. I think perhaps you might want to explain how it is that some of the Avari are there at all. Did they die and answered the call of Mandos and were then reborn? It's not terribly clear. It's also not very clear as to why Elrond of all people would be asked to meet with them nor is the purpose for the meeting. These are just niggly questions which arise when reading an otherwise excellently written and characterised story.
Author's reply
I'm glad you like my story so far!
Well, I thought I made it clear the guards were the one that came with to Lorien, not Maiar. Huh-- I'll go back and look it over to see if I need to rewrite a bit.
Thank you! I think, probably like you do, that putting Maglor anywhere else would be cruel. However, I disagree with your assesment that he's carrying the brunt of the punishment (well, from an outside POV, the Valar's, and Elrond's, anyhow). What the rest of the people of Valinor think or will do comes from the fact that he *is* the only Feanorian living, and so some of them will take their anger out on his family on him because he's the only target. People are complicated, and with RAFA being in first person, I can't really show what everyone around him truly thinks. (This isn't to say that your assesment is wrong-- it's your opinion-- and it makes me think and clarify, which is always a good thing.)
How I worked with the Avari in RAFA is two-faceted. One is that in the intervening years, people changed their minds. I do think they didn't know much about Valinor, but after the Ring War, mortals began encroaching on tribal lands as well as starting to discriminate in rather harsh measures. Secondly, the Blue Wizards, because they went to the East, could have reinvited the Avari to Valinor, as well as telling them more about it. (I eventually plan to work with the Avari in a couple of stories, so while this is background information right now, hopefully it'll be "published" sooner or later.) So, in effect, with Middle-earth becoming less hospitable, they chose to leave. (Some did die and were reborn.) I hope that answers your concern!
Thank you so much for your concrit. I truly appreciate it.
Laiwalâssê
· 20 July 2010
· Chapter 7
I´m more and more drawn to this story. Although I know I should not but I almost pity Maglor. I like your Elrond very much. His interactions with Maglor are perfect. Keep up this interesting work. Can´t wait for the next chapter. Thank you for sharing this. Lai
Author's reply
Why shouldn't you pity Maglor? I do (but then, he's my favorite character). I'm glad you like Elrond!