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Many fruitless victories  by perelleth 6 Review(s)
Vana TuivanaReviewed Chapter: 2 on 9/6/2005
Wow, do I ever want to live there.

Wish you were my Environmental Science professor, Perelleth - you would make it all so interesting. :) Want to move north?

Okay, so a real constructive review now: fantastic as ever. In this chapter especially, the dialogue between Celeborn, Thranduil and Feldman is so real, it's as if I can hear it rather than read it from the page. Wonderful writing, once again!

Author Reply: Wish you were my Environmental Science professor, Perelleth

I cannot believe that you've ever had a dull, boring environmental professor.. that should be punished by law! It is our future at stake, there! Sigh! that's how life goes..

See, the whole thing was a challenge to me, it was my first multi-chaptered story and I had no idea how it would come out. Dialogues, descriptions, plot advancement and all that stuff worried me little, because I was, and remain, blatantly igonorant of the rules of story writing, so I was lucky that it was all quite clear in my head, although I'm sure it could do with some more revisions and polishing up.. yet the message seemed to came through, and I feel that I was able to convey what I meant, the difference between elves and mortals in relation with life, the world and death... Thanks again!

French PonyReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/15/2005
Sorry this is late -- I was out of town when you posted this chapter, and I did read it, but I'm only now catching up to things as I should be. And I don't have a whole lot of time at the moment, but I did want to let you know that I had, in fact, read the chapter. I think I kind of like your footnotes -- you do them with a certain flair. And I was especially amused by the whole thing with the maté, because I have one of those gourds on my windowsill as we speak (gift from my sister).

Author Reply: I hope you enjoyed your trip –if it was for leisure- or that everything went OK –if it was for business-. Thank you for taking the time to write down even if you’re busy! I know how it is!

I’m glad you liked the mate thing, and happy to know you own one of those gourds. Do you use it, if I may ask? Even tea tastes differently when drank from the gourd and sipped with the bombilla! I use mine, but when alone! ;-)

I noticed, too, that you stressed the word maté. I hesitated myself, but I finally settled on for the local, widespread, unstressed usage of mate. Down there, they give you “the look” if you dare say maté… :-0

I’m comforted that you like my footnotes! Although, on second thoughts… should one worry about the “actual” work when her footnotes get noticed? ;-) I’m not wholly sure about this chapter myself, so I’m doubly thankful to kind an patient readers and reviewers!

NilmandraReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/14/2005
I think this chapter, with the progressing state of destruction of the forest, reminded me more than anything of how wearying it must be for the elves to be tied to Arda, to live so long as it does. They must just patiently go on, knowing that one day the tides of destruction will overtake them, and only then will they find out what exists for them, if anything, beyond the circles of the world. You are doing a nice job of keeping Greenwood's and Silvertree's perspective long term.

Author Reply: how wearying it must be for the elves to be tied to Arda... Indeed. I was thinking along the same lines with one of the last "Tolkien quotes of the day" here, in SoA, that from the Akallabeth and the restlessness of the numenoreans. I cannot pretend to understand it either, but placing this particular man against these worn out and yet fighting elves seemed to me a good way of exploring their ultimate fate, that of hope beyond knowledge, for both races. Glad you find the perspective accurate, and thanks again for your comments!

RedheredhReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/13/2005

Unlike others, I just can't seem to get to read and review quickly. But eventually, I do.

This was a very informative chapter about the purpose and goals of Greenwood Great. There were more than a couple of things that were particularly interesting besides the mate. Nice touch that.

Cyrus knowing about the off-spring communities and saying that very few were viable. That was not encouraging.

The planned obsolecence of seeds! A chilling thought because it is something quite possible even now. I think, the wide-spread use of genetically standardized seeds are endangering our food supply as it is. One mutant disease and entire states will be devasted.

Dubbing Maglor and Daeron the Bard and Poet was as amusing as their subversive global activities. ;) But, once again they make the best use of their artistic talents to assemble rafts of information whether tales,lays, or statistics.

The international, global exchange website complementing the analysis reminded me of current projects like the Genome and NASA projects.

The exchange between Silvertree and Cyrus about how what it is they were doing would not save the world was turning point for our hero scientist. Poor Cyrus! How disheartening for him. But even after that, he holds out and keeps faith with his cause. That was wonderful.

I hope he can continue to ally himself with Sivertree's later stated goals even if they are not so grand as his own.

"...we are gloriously ignorant about the subtle mechanisims of causality." Oh, how true. Call it fate or destiny or synchronicity, but thank God, meaningful things happen, both good and bad.

Enchanting picture of the elf-lords in the moonlight looking west with yearning. How is that the presence of elves, even though at times they are sorrowful, comforts the human spirit?

It's nice seeing Cyrus becoming part of this 'long defeat'. He has already made a great difference in one battle. I can't wait to see him proceed onto the next.


Author Reply: I’m doubly thankful that you took the time! Your thoughtful and kind reviews are always welcome as well as very much thought- provoking, no matter how long it takes you to r&r!

I’m glad you liked the mate touch. I seriously feared that people might find it disgusting, but it is so typical that it would have been a shame to let it out…

The seeds situation is, most unfortunately, going on nowadays. Most of the genetically reinforced, disease proof seeds are non-reproductive, too. This means that farmers have to spend money every year to plant a new crop. International prices for those crops (not seeds) have been going down steadily, so…

I’m glad that you noticed the quote. It’s from J.L. Borges, an Argentinean writer. I find it accurate and sarcastic.

Cyrus argued with Greenwood (Thranduil) who is a bit… blunt, about the usefulness of their project, and it is calm Silvertree who tries to ease his worries. But some paths one has to tread for himself, I suppose…

I’m truly thankful for your comments, Redha, and I hope that this keeps holding your attention and being worth your time!

daw the minstrelReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/12/2005
I'm loving this story! The image at the end was very striking. The elves looking west like silver and gold trees. :-)

Are Bard and Poet Elladan and Elrohir?

I think Tolkien would have liked what you're doing with his elves in the our future. Surely that tie to Arda is what they were all about.

Author Reply: Are Bard and Poet Elladan and Elrohir? (Slaps forehead) Wish I had thought of that! Unfortunately, they aren't. We only have four remainig elves in cast, the four that meet in the prologue as the organization's board,that's it, Daeron and Maglor, or Maglor and Daeron. Anyway, I wouldn't have been able to play the six of them all along! I'm suffering enough with these four plus the good doctor!!! ;-)

I'm glad that you're enjying the story and what these elves are doing! I couldn't picture them doing anything else...

BodkinReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/12/2005
So they are still fighting the long defeat. This is very powerful. And the final vision of them - silver and gold, like the Two Trees, looking west with yearning.

'it kept Bard and Poet from other activities' - the hotheads, are they? The two who feel they have nothing to lose, so will go to any lengths to achieve their aims?

I like Cyrus and I am looking forward to seeing where this goes!

Author Reply: Hi Bodkin! honoured to have you on board!

Yes, they're still fighting their long defeat. That sentence, and the one I used for the title here seem to me terribly powerful in their simplicity.

Bard and Poet have nothing to lose, yes, or rather they have less to hold on to, so their approach, more "artistic" in a way, must be a bit embarrassing at times for his two more scientific-oriented colleagues. And poor Cyrus is there in the middle, hoping he has finally found the place from where to start recovering loss ground, only to be confronted with.... the greatest losers in earth history? we'll see.

Deep thanks for taking the time!

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