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Celebrian, Sell i Nos Galadhad   by Redheredh 2 Review(s)
perellethReviewed Chapter: 7 on 7/4/2005
I loved this hint at why Hrassa had gone missing. Better to desert than to be forced to betray or lose faith. I can very well understand that! But now, Celeborn has to produce what he's being hiding upon his sleeve, for Hrassa is now close to dreakdown, I believe he's seeing only his own perseonal view, and judging by what his sense of prode allows him to see as fitting for his most esteemed prince, and that prevented him from seeing other truths Celebron is about to show him... and us!!!!

I can, too, imagine the kind of political turmoil in LIndon you're hinting at... except for the fact that everybody tends to assume that Gilgalad's court was dominated by haughty noldorin counsellors, while Tolkien says that most of the Noldor sailed away to Eressëa, and most of those who remained might have been of Noldorin and SInadrin mixed descent...(let's debate a bit:-)

All in all, your explanations are very convincingly laid out. I can imagine Oropher's resentment and Celeborn's own disapointment at being forced to leave Nenuial.

One thing that gives me pause, though, is this sentence, "neither Amdir nor Oropher acknowledge Gil-galad as their lord or ally" IF Ereinion's mother was an Elmoi, too, then Oropher's attitude, not acknowledging him as ally is a bit..callous, to say the least?

very intriguing and very well written. Chance that it won't take you two more months to update? ;-)


Author Reply:
I am very glad you like this aspect of the story. It's tough reading about any of heroic character indulging in politics, casually or intensely.

Hmm, there is one passage in the Silm at the end of "Of the Voyage of Earendil", that says it for me. Starts with "Yet not all the Elda;ie were willing..." The Eldalie are all the elves that came to Beleriend and those that returned as well. They are the elves that took up the Great Journey. Cirdan and Celeborn ect. are mentioned as among those that stayed. Galadriel is pointed out as the only one of the leaders - that's the Finweans - of the Exiles who remained. I assume that all those others that survived and liked having become big fish in the Hither Lands (Galadriel's original motivation) where they had been little fish in Aman are good candidates as well as those who intermarried into the Sindarin population. And I personally think, some moriquendi would want to align themselves as calaquendi (a Celt becoming Romanized so to speak) and be considered one of them instead of a 'dark elf'.

As explained, Orodreth's wife left the Elmoi. Maybe if Gil-galad had not become the High King of the Noldor, both forest lords would have cut him some slack. Also, if it is not very clear, the Council tried to impose Amanyar laws on the Umanyar people of Harlindon. A big factor in driving Sindar east to lands where they could be themselves again. There is no common enemy to help Oropher or Amdir overlook that imposition. At least, not yet.

Oh dear, was it two months? I have to be candid and say I cannot work that fast when I am working on another story along with this one. But, I intend to have the next chapter posted before the short story. If that helps in any way.

Thank you for reviewing. It's very encouraging and most kind of you.


BodkinReviewed Chapter: 7 on 7/3/2005
Poor Hrassa - tortured by incongruous carnival music. How could Celeborn be so cruel?

Except for Galadriel. But, he knew that was because she had liked him at first sight. It suddenly occurred to him that maybe her daughter had reacted to him in much the same way. Good - there's more to Galadriel than spoilt Golodhrim and I'm glad Hrassa sees it! Perhaps she sees in Hrassa someone who recognises the same Celeborn that she does.

Don't you go dismissing Elrond though, Celeborn - or the fates might turn round and bite you in the foot and make him your son-in-law or something!

Only once had Gil-galad tried to do that to Galadriel. Only once. Now that is a confrontation I would like to see!

A tale of fragmentation and division. And like Hrassa, I am left groping to make sense of it all. More please - I need the complicated answer to the simple question to unravel - lots of pieces have been laid out, but I need Celeborn to assemble them into some kind of order. Are we talking eminences grises, powers behind the throne, making things happen without the need for thrones? Power from the people; held but not imposed directly? I need to read again from the beginning. And have some more chapters.

Are they planning on escaping the prison yard? Hrassa would probably feel more at ease if the guard didn't keep popping out as if he was a threat. He might be, I suppose, but he's not that kind of threat.

Enjoyable - tantalising - more soon, please.

Author Reply:
I do apologize for the very late response, but you know about that RL stuff.

Ha! Alliteration! Love it! I really liked that other phrase you used in your Ripe for Change response as well: "responsibilities that outrank romance".

Galadriel can see into people hearts, can she not? ;) Something in there pleased her.

Well, Celeborn has not completely written off Elrond, not yet, I think.

I doubt it was on the same paar as Feanor's and Fingolfin's confrontation. Seeing as Celeborn might easily step back and calmly offer an equal - and more direct - threat. And, who knows what might happen if the cappo of the nothrim decided, like Thingol, to call for some santions against the young king. Much better to stay on friendly terms. ;)

Next chapter will continue their discussion. Talk...talk...talk... and still little enlightenment...

I agree with you that they simply cannot stay where they are. Anyway, Celebrimbor would be put out royal to have to track them down here.

I simply cannot get over your liking this story!

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