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| They Did Not Take Root In That Land by perelleth | 8 Review(s) |
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| elliska | Reviewed Chapter: 3 on 3/18/2007 |
| Oh this chapter is packed! Ennin ago you would have insulted Ereinion for his arguments and most assuredly you would have walked away in rage…and look at you! Now you are even trying to understand his motives! Again, *snort!* I love the relationship Oropher has in this with Cirdan. And poor Glorifindel--his questions in this chapter show his great character. And I love that the maids enlisted him as a mediator! Oropher's musings over the rise of Shadow are excellent, as is his conversation with Cirdan on that topic. But he was definitely trapped in the end! At least he found out the truth of the meeting before he embarrassed himself. :-) Author Reply: GLorfindel must have been an unknown entity for those in Lindon, a reborn sent... with what purpose? Annatar coming from the East and GLorfindel from the west, both claiming to have something to do with those beyond the sea... Poor GIl galad must have been pretty confused regarding both! I see Oropher as someone who voluntarily hid in the deepest of the forest... and was reluctant to come back to light, though unable to resit it when h eknew it was necessary... and I must confess that I am finding some paralels with him myself! ;-) | |
| meckinock | Reviewed Chapter: 3 on 1/7/2007 |
| I find myself thoroughly enjoying Oropher. He's a bit of an outsider and would happily stay that way, but he's a realist, and doesn't really trust these Noldori...how did he put it? The Noldorin blindness to everything except their own strategies and priorities? Of course that's a completely subjective assessment, but that's what makes this story so fascinating - seeing how all these heroic but highly divergent characters view one another and the growing threat. I do love the bits of humor overlaying a very dark subject - particularly Oropher's musing about Glorfindel and, his discreet eavesdropping on the king's council. Author Reply: Thank-you meckinock. I'm finding it hard to keep the humour up, but then, the situation is ominous so they are not much for levity... Oropher grew in my as I reflected about the little we know about him. I see him as someone who does not feel the need to be nice to everyone everytime, and he has very deep seated beliefs...like that about the Noldor, for wahich I would like to call him to task myself. But he is a honest, wise leader, a good father and husband and a dutiful warrior who still mourns the loss of those he had to protect. And he is having a great time back in Lindon, watching the show without being living there, as he was in the previous story. His own success and stable life has softened him somehow as well. | |
| French Pony | Reviewed Chapter: 3 on 12/24/2006 |
| The comedy of manners continues. I like it, but I'm at home and therefore can't leave a nice long review. But I am enjoying this muchly. Author Reply: Thank-you FP. It is good to know that you are enjoying, Hope you are having a great time at home. | |
| Bodkin | Reviewed Chapter: 3 on 12/24/2006 |
| Poor Glorfindel! This is all rather difficult for him. But a more mature Oropher - one who has found his place and can negotiate rather than confront! Whatever next. But they've had time to grow into their roles now - and can afford to be more understanding of each other. Besides, there is nothing like a common enemy for helping people overcome the emphasis on petty differences. And Oropher gets to spend time with Maentew. Jolly good! Author Reply: Glorfindel's arrival intrigued me, how Gil-galad and his court may have adjusted to a bright, pure, powerful hero straight from the Halls and the Blessed Realm, at a time when they are beginning to admit that the shadow is surrounding them again... Conflict must have been assured. And Oropher has settled down nicely in his forest home, and has seen his son marrying a beautiful elleth... he is happy and almost condescending, right now. And then he has to look after a couple of guards who are far more distrusting than himsef, so that gives him perspective as well... Thank-you, Bodkin. | |
| erunyauve | Reviewed Chapter: 3 on 12/24/2006 |
| Oropher has developed nicely. I like the way you've brought the Druedain in. There just aren't enough stories written about elves in the Second Age, and it's fascinating to me to see how different authors gather together Tolkien's bits and pieces and changes of mind to put together a coherent history of the years leading to the War of Elves and Sauron. Author Reply: Thank-you Erunyauve, I'm glad that you liked it. The Second Age is vastly unexplored, I agree, and this period, when the peace ends and the Elves learn that evil has not been uprooted seemed intersting to me. Since there are so many differing versions , mainly regarding Celeborn and Galadriel's role, I chose a single piece of the UT and followed it. Actually this came out mainly due to the story of the port of Lond Daer and the mighty deforestation carried out by the Numenoreans since the times of Aldarion, and what that may have meant until the War in Eregion for the peoples living in the area.... | |
| Redheredh | Reviewed Chapter: 3 on 12/23/2006 |
| I definitely like Oropher's guards. :) But, now I am worrying - Bronadel seems more than impressed with the dance of the waves... Poor Gil-galad, it's not easy being a doomed king...maybe you will help him find his suitable counterpart before the end of this tale? Well anyway, you have made this a very interesting look at the long calm before the storm of war. Fascinating and never forgetting that most of the time it is personalities, and not always circumstances, that push events along. Cirdan certainly is an irresistible, relentless force in ME, like a natural force easier for Oropher to relate to, and you made great use of him here. It is especially nice to see your other stories' details, not only mentioned, but also put to excellent use. The whole bit between Erestor and Glorfindel was vastly entertaining! As was Oropher's and Cirdan's conversation! :D Just like Oropher, even when he and Cirdan came into the infirmary, I did not suspect what Cirdan had in mind until too late. But, I love that that those two were thrown together. Now, we may find out just what happened to Maentew! I am glad you allowed Oropher to learn the truth about Miluinn's departure. She sounds like a very interesting person from whom to hear new stories of the history of the House of Finwe in Endore. Author Reply: Thank-you Redheredh! These were troubled times, and as you say, it is personalities that define reactions and events, at least I agree with that statement. And time has passed for all of them. Oropher has calmed down a bit and Ereinion is more self-assured, so they are not clashing so bitterly. Erestor and Cirdan know Oropher well, so they know exactly what is going on behind his harsh mood. I am glad you allowed Oropher to learn the truth about Miluinn's departure LOL! Despite what may seem, I am rather fond of Oropher, and it is not my itnention to embarrass him more than strictly nececsaary, although it was he who jumped into conclusions after a glimpse...;-) maybe you will help him find his suitable counterpart before the end of this tale? I leave that to more talented and optimistical hands. As I see it, Ereinion was a case of "ill chances or strange fortunes" while in this side of the Sea...Not so different from Glorfindel.. ;-) I'm thrilled that you like the references. This is a sequel to New Beginnings, and Oropher teaching the Edain how to care for the forests come up in next chapters... While Miluinn simply slipped in here from another, unfinished story set quite arlier in time but from which I've been drawing parts. This history-building thing is addictive. ;-) | |
| Nilmandra | Reviewed Chapter: 3 on 12/23/2006 |
| I liked Erestor's answer to Glorfindel, that he reminds them of what they have lost. The maids and house elves are quite hilarious, using Glorfindel as their meidator. Cirdan is still wise, and I like how he sees through Oropher, that he has grown up in many ways. Poor Oropher, as irascible as he is (and barely likable at times) I felt for him when he finally realized that they evening's event was the sailing of a ship. I'll help him knock his head against stone. And Oropher should learn something here too - it seems the sea longing may have been awakened in one of his own guards. He may learn that the Silvans are still of the Eldar, Moriquendi though they be, and the call of the sea lies dormant deep within their hearts. Author Reply: Thank-you again! Since I seldom write elves confronted with men, I am trying to figure out differences between elves, and a reborn one, just arrived from the Blessed Realm, seemed to me a stark contrast against the darkness of those times and the anguish these Elves must have been suffering, seeing the Shadow arising again after such a short time of peace. Glad that you picked that up. Oropher has grown up as well, or at least managed to let go of his own pain and frustration, although he is always his haughty and hurried self, jumping into colcusions and shamelessly disregarding all istory that is not Sindarin history... | |
| daw the minstrel | Reviewed Chapter: 3 on 12/23/2006 |
| Sobering news for Oropher, but I like the fact that he's willing to leave the forest and come to do politics, which he doesn't like, because it's necessary for his people and all of ME. Still, this presages what happens in Mirkwood in the Third Age too, where they deal with evil for years before it preys on the other elven kingdoms. Author Reply: Thank-you, Daw. I like the paralell that you draw with the Third Age. With the Rings at work, The Havens, as well as Lorien and Imladris are dozing in their perfect surroundings, while the Silvan in Greenwood will have to bear the return of the shadow from the very first moment. But Oropher will not be there to see the irony... ;-( | |