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| Sad But True by Ecthelion of the fountain | 3 Review(s) |
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| Leithian | Reviewed Chapter: 10 on 1/30/2025 |
| Thanks for your response to my previous comment. The fact that this story is an interpretation of the line "but to none was her heart's love given." makes it even more interesting. I had forgotten (or perhaps never knew at all) that this is the story of the relationship between Irisse and Celegorm. The reason I worded the last comment that way is that I've noticed that Celegorm is one of the most hated characters in the Silmarillion... to the extent that I didn't think it would be safe to publicly say that he is one of my favourites. I never expected that you loved him. I feel less alone now. Will you write more on these characters? I'm eagerly waiting to read more of your masterpieces. May I ask your view on the Luthien scenario? For me, this is the absolutely worst thing Celegorm did, however, when I read about the evolution of the character I saw that Tolkien switched between Celegorm and Curufin as the one who loved Luthien. But later, I think that he decided that Curufin was Celebrimbor's father so he settled on Celegorm as the one who loved Luthien. But I also never understood how that was going to work 🙃 after all he could not force her against her will. I think Tolkien wanted to give Celegorm and Curufin a motive to keep Luthien in Nargothand but that's the best I could make out of it. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Take care Author Reply: My impression is that there are enough fans of the Fëanorians by now that it is safe to say we love every single one of them. They are not my personal favorites—I do love most, if not all, of the characters—but I am certainly motivated to keep exploring their histories and stories. :D I have just published Silhouette of Doom, a story about the kinslaying in Doriath. All the sons of Fëanor have their POVs, Celegorm included. Hope you enjoy it! Regarding the Lúthien encounter in the legendarium, my suspicion has always been that Tolkien never delved deeply into the individual characters of Celegorm and Curufin in this matter. They serve more as narrative tools to move the story forward, so it hardly mattered which son of Fëanor should have been enamored by her. (That said, the term “crafty” does suggest Curufin as the more likely villain.) And yes, they could not force her against her will, but the matter was also about power and influence, not merely the union itself. I mentioned this in Sad But True—this marriage could well have been in name only. After all, Elves do not die within this world, and their patience extends beyond mortal imagination. | |
| Leithian | Reviewed Chapter: 10 on 1/29/2025 |
| Ecthelion! So glad to see this extra chapter and to know that you're still active on SoA. I first read your story quite a long time ago, it made me cry a bit. I fell absolutely in love with this story, and I often reread it. It's your fic that made me see Celegorm as more than a villain (he was never simple for me), I came around to like him and now he is one of my favourite characters in the Legendarium. (Yeah that's true, don't kill me lol). https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/1aywqb9/celegormor_the_fall_of_a_prince_charmingpart_1/&ved=2ahUKEwjX_5jCoZuLAxW69LsIHaU2AOIQFnoECBkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw09pvaM9tVAkJ2y3VXW0-MJ If you're interested, this is a link to a reddit post that explores the evolution of Celegorm's storyline in Tolkien's drafts and a lot of material didn't make it to the published Silmarillion. It is really informative and after reading this I felt that my headcanon was vindicated. Author Reply: Thanks! I certainly didn't expect anyone to remember me—it has indeed been a long time, and I’ve been inactive here because I forgot my password 😅 But at last, I managed to log in again and update the text to reflect its latest state. 😄 I'm very familiar with Celegorm's story in HoME and its evolution. 😃 This piece selectively weaves together certain elements around the enigmatic sentence in the published Silmarillion: "but to none was her heart's love given." Of course, this is just one possibility among many—I’m sure there are countless versions that take entirely different directions! And it's quite clear that I love him—how else could I write so much about a single character? In truth, I've grown to love almost all of these characters by now, and I'm exploring other possibilities in different stories. | |
| Haven of Stars | Reviewed Chapter: 10 on 2/24/2022 |
| Woah! This story really made me think a lot. You made my opinion of Celegorm change considerably! How did it feel to write from his POV? | |