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The long defeat  by perelleth 10 Review(s)
galathilReviewed Chapter: 1 on 7/30/2012
Dear Perelleth,I have stumbled acrosss this little story of yours,and I love it.The pictures that you have painted about Celeborn's pain and the last song of the oak,make's it as if you are there.In the end Celeborn is not only reunited with Galadriel but he finaly realises that he is home.I hope that you write soon. LOL Galathil

docmonReviewed Chapter: 1 on 10/10/2006
what a provacative story. bittersweet for Celeborn, but a strong message for all of us. nicely done.

Author Reply: Thank-you, Docmon. It is always a pleasure to read a review of an old story...I am glad that you liked it.It somehow struck me that had this guy actually remained, he would have been quite in a shock at the state of his beloved forests... The smae subject is dealt with in "Many fruitless victories"

elliskaReviewed Chapter: 1 on 6/4/2005
Wow! I just happened across this today entirely by chance and I absolutely love it. The theme happens to be one I love and I think I'll just let myself think that Yavanna is doing exactly that somewhere but it is also powerfully, poignantly written. Great Celeborn! Great story!

Author Reply: "I'll just let myself think that Yavanna is doing exactly that somewhere" Yes!Only, she needs a little help from all of us! Yes, it is one of my "favourite", or at least recurring themes to... in fact I'm back at it presently...;-)

Thanks for your kind words and for solving a doubt of mine: "would an author care for reviews of old stories?" New as I am to this, I had no way of knowing, and I've just discovered! So let me tell you that I'm doing my way through your "Interrupted Journeys," quite slowly, on long-haul flights, and now I know that, yes, a review would be welcome! ;-)

Sophia SilfaeryReviewed Chapter: 1 on 4/10/2005
I reviewed this before at but I HAD to do so again. This is such a fantastic story! I come back to it over and over again, little bits of detail such as the description of the pine trees just complete something which is so...tender. I could have cried for him when he was waiting with the Oak and then again when he woke up and saw all the trees he'd saved.!

Author Reply: You're very kind, Sophia, to take the time to review it...twice! See, after some weeks of reading reports about the dramatic state of world forestry areas at work, I thought "were there any elves still around, they'd be truly dismayed by this!" Then, it came out quite easily, and it seems to have made some impression, too!
Thanks for your kind reviews!

MarnieReviewed Chapter: 1 on 3/30/2005
Just lovely! I should have checked the archive more often if I'd known I was missing a gem like this. One of the best arrival in Valinor stories I've seen because it's so clearly a passage out of this world into paradise. And I quite agree that it does have a very 'Leaf by Niggle' feel to it - the way all the hopeless doomed striving becomes a victory in the end, and the sense of coming out into a great wooded country. I liked too the realization that he and Galadriel had been fighting different battles; I think that's very true.

Any chance I could put this on my Celeborn website? Do say yes? :)

Author Reply: Wow! (blushes and hyperventilates) I mean.. Wow! I'm truly honoured you read it, Marnie (not to mention reviewed it and liked it!) It is curious this "Leaf by Niggle" thing, for, yes, I acknowledge the feel to it (you're the second reviewer to point that out!). The lovely thing about all this is that I read "Leaf..." almost twenty years ago, in my impressionable youth, and found it so utterly poignant that never, ever again read it. It stayed within, it seems. I'm twenty years older and it'd seem I've learnt that defeat is mostly what life is about...

"Any chance I could put this on my Celeborn website? Do say yes? :)" well YESS sure, if you find it worthy! I feel like Bilbo when the Dunedain remonstrates him his making verses about Earendil in Elrond's house!(I've been complimented instead!)

It's most encouraging to receive such kind reviews, thanks again! :-)

BejaiReviewed Chapter: 1 on 3/22/2005
I've got to say, this story certainly got to me (in the best possible way!) I keep thinking about it. Alas, I've never spent much time in a deciduous forest. They just don't grow well in my part of the world. But I completely agree with your point!

You asked how Deific Flame was going. Slowly, I'm afraid. The next chapter is in bits and pieces. And I'm in the last few weeks of my last semester of graduate school, so my writing time has been sorely limited. But I will get it done one of these days, never fear! Thanks for asking.

Author Reply: Ho! funny you wrote back, for I, too, have spent the whole day thinking
back to your review....and afraid that Celeborn did not clearly pointed
out how deeply he felt for *all* trees. I've also seen -and fought-
deforestation in pine growing areas, and in rainforests, but I grew up in
this celtic part of Europe, where elves and fairies dance among the
beeches and oaks, my grandafther had a chestnut planted when I was born,
and it was far easier for me to recount the decay of these forests of
old, but alas!, they're all fading away!

Well, as long as it keeps going ( deific flame), I can wait for as long
as it takes! thanks for informing and good luck! ;-)

EruannaReviewed Chapter: 1 on 3/21/2005
This is beautiful and tragic, and wonderfully written. Somehow, it reminds me of Tolkien's story 'Leaf by Niggle', in which everything Niggle tries in this life comes to naught, but when he reaches 'the other side', so to speak, he finds that all of his defeats have really been victories... And yet, the loss in this world is real, too. I have felt something of Celeborn's sorrow myself, and you offer a much needed warning.

Author Reply: Thanks, Eruanna! I'm glad you liked it and took the time to review!
Now that I read it, you may be right about Leaf and niggle, although that's a story I haven't read for almost fifteen years, for it made me so sad! But somehow it must hve been working deep in my mind! thanks for the clue!!!;-)

The KarenatorReviewed Chapter: 1 on 3/21/2005
This is a lovely tale, Perelleth. Celeborn's sorrow was deep and his defeat thorough as he sat beneath his 'friend' oak. I was glad that he was taken to Valinor and saw that his labors were not fruitless. What a wonderful reminder of the importance of the forest.



Author Reply: My, thanks! I'm overwhelmed!
I always thought Tolkien's elves would make a powerful NGO for forestry protection, which, btw is far more needed than what we tend to believe.. sigh!
I'm glad you liked it, you see, I can write happy endings, too! ;-)

BejaiReviewed Chapter: 1 on 3/21/2005
Wow. A heartbreaking story. We're not there yet, fortunately, but your warning is chilling. You made an interesting comment about the pine trees. Now, I love those trees too -- they are the trees of my home. And I wouldn't put all pine trees into a lesser category. I would refer you to Redwoods, old-growth Cedars, and Bristlecone pines! But you're right. I've been in forests that do seem more hasty. I don't get the same 'feel' from them, that feeling as if, if you were very patient and polite, one might say 'hello.' Some younger (replanted by companies) forests are missing something. That had never occurred to me before. Must think on it.

I'm glad you had a happy ending for Celeborn. But all the trees in Valinor ... that is a tragedy for us, isn't it?

Bravo for this powerful story.

Author Reply: Well, thanks Bejai, I'm glad you liked it!

I also love pine trees, as a general category, and... it would be rather foolish of me to "dsiscriminate" them under a general misconception.And of course I do not mean they are less trees. But the actual fact is that they *do* grow faster than other,slower, deciduous species. They also consume certain soil components that are neede by other species, so the bio-divesrity in those forests is lesser. Not worse, only less varied.

Now, I come from that part of the world where Prof.Tolkien placed his ME (somewhere down south the Shire) and I've seen for many years how ancient deciduous forests are being estrangled by massive pine tree plantations, until our beloved landscape is almost lost. So the problem is not with the trees, but how they're "managed" I love pine trees landscape, but they cannot live together with beeches and oaks and chestnuts. Not for long, at any rate. That's why Celeborn says that the modern tree shepherds do not take into account the needs of the forests. And he pities these trees too, for they're not given time enough to grow and enjoy their lives.

Thanks for your wonderful review, Bejai, and btw, how's deific flame doing?

daw the minstrelReviewed Chapter: 1 on 3/21/2005
Oh my, this story was lovely and thought provoking.

they discovered that they had been fighting different battles

and that line moved me. I can see how that happened. It wasn't until Sauron had been cleared away that Celeborn could see the real need for him.

Author Reply: Yes, it struck me too, that he might feel the need to stay and not leave with her, so I thought it should have been duty, rahter than a passing whim... Thanks daw, it's always so enocuraging to hear from you!

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