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Thain  by Lindelea 168 Review(s)
Lyta PadfootReviewed Chapter: 5 on 7/18/2004
Bucca and his son were very sweet. I'm curious as to why the Thorn was needed; I suspect it relates to the hobbits who went off to fight. Poor Bucca, it must be terrible to wait and wait for his twin only to learn that the waiting was in vain and that his brother is dead.

Author Reply: Thanks for commenting. Can't answer but to say all will be clearer in chapters soon to come.

BodkinReviewed Chapter: 4 on 7/13/2004
Pippin is such a typical youngest - willing to let everyone else do everything for him while he flutters his eyelashes and pouts. I don't blame Paladin for wanting to make him take some responsibility.

Interested to see how this develops!

Author Reply: LOL, indeed he is! Amazing how that birth-order thing works.

Lyta PadfootReviewed Chapter: 4 on 7/11/2004
Paladin's anger is reflected in his children. Pimpernel, Pervinca, and Pippin are demonstrating classic signs of being in a troubled home. Pimpernel tries to protect, Pervinca escapes via books, Pippin is reckless. Whatever Paladin is planning, it won't be a good thing. Somehow I think it involves the Great Smials as that is the location of the stables he and Ferdi (nearly) burn down.

Interesting that I thought of Paladin in my teaching class this summer. My instructor told us that first year teachers tend to reach a crisis point (stage two: surviving the teaching experience) where they 'teach as they were taught'. Paladin under pressure is parenting as he was parented, regardless of how he himself feels about how his father treated him. Its not working, but all he knows how to respond is to escalate.

Author Reply: Anger is worse than a virus, very infectious.

Actually, Paladin is planning a good thing and if he'd been able to stick with it--as in circumstances not forcing his hand--things might have turned out differently. (It is so difficult to write when I keep bumping up against a future that's already written!) Hope that's not a spoiler, but then you know already, I think, that it's the consequences of his becoming Thain that ruin Paladin's chances for a happy family life. When his dream dies and he shoulders his responsibility, he cannot rise above the crushing weight of the burden thrust upon him. (Thankfully Pippin, in the identical circumstance later in his own life, is able to rise and not be crushed.)

Classic observation you made there. How many times do we vow we won't do what our parents did, or say what they said, and later find their words coming out of our own mouths?

Thanks for commenting.

BeruthielReviewed Chapter: 4 on 7/11/2004
Can't help feeling sorry for Pippin here, wondering what's going to happen. He may have deserved that rebuke, but I get the feeling there's worse coming.

Interesting to see that Pip isn't the only one Paladin is less than pleased with, though he seems to get most of his father's ire.

So Pervinca likes to bury her nose in books, does she? I just realized I know nothing at all about her. She barely gets mentioned in your other stories (Pearl too, for that matter). I know she marries Meliloc Brandybuck in 1440 (55 years old by then), and that's about it. What was she up to before then? (Just something to keep in mind for future stories.)

It looks like this story is going to be quite angsty (yay! I love angst!). The family could get rather dysfunctional. I'm anxious to see how the worsening Pip-Paladin problems are going to affect the others. (Never really thought about that myself, for some reason.)

This is looking to be a superb story, but I wish you'd update faster.

Author Reply: I do appreciate the encouragement.

Well, there's better and worse coming, just as in real life.

Pervinca as I've imagined her is a dreamer with a mercurial temper. I know someone very like her IRL... She marries late in life, 'tis true, but Meliloc is her "match" and perfectly suited to weather her moods and... but I'm out of time. Dana has asked me a couple of times to write about Pervinca. We'll see.

Well, considering that Paladin and Pippin are not on speaking terms before Paladin's death, yes, they do get rather dysfunctional.

Thanks!

ConnieReviewed Chapter: 4 on 7/11/2004
Oh, that was a hard chapter to read, at least for me. I know children need responsibiilities, and that they need descipline when they don't do as they're told; but it was still really hard to sit through Paladin's rebuke of his children.

I can see that this could devolve into a very sad and disfunctiional family. All of the children seem like basicly good kids, and maybe they need love maore than a parent's constant anger and displeasure with everything they do.

I need to shut up now. I have a bad habit of being very opinionated about kids, and how they're raised.

Connie.

Author Reply: Well, I think they need consistency along with that love. Alternate spoiling and scolding don't work well.

My goodness, it is difficult to write this story, if only to show a logical progression from Paladin-loving father to Paladin-unsympathetic Thain. It's a challenge, and challenges can keep me going when I don't feel like writing at all, but still...

People do change over time. The Greeks were famous for their tragedies, usually based upon a character flaw, and the ending inevitable despite the character's best intentions. I have forced that same dynamic to be in effect for this story, with the conditions set forth in earlier stories, and am not completely happy about it. Go figure.

Still, am going to try to pull the whole "fanon" together with this fill-in of the missing link. Yikes. Hope it doesn't finish me!

ConnieReviewed Chapter: 3 on 7/9/2004
I'm still playing chatch-up on all the reading I missed.

I like the changes to chapter one.

I'm curious to see how the history chapters and the more current story weave together. I know there's going to be a lot of connection. You don't write anything without a purpose.

Connie.

Author Reply: Thanks for reviewing. Finally got the next "Bucca" chapter hammered out, complete with computer crash just after completing it, and some careful reconstruction. Hope it suits.

BodkinReviewed Chapter: 3 on 7/7/2004
Poor Bucca, left without his twin, supporting all the rest of his family. I love the parts that follow on from Shire: the Beginnings. It's always hard on those who are left behind in the aftermath of war.



Author Reply: I can only imagine what it must be like for Bucca, having known twins but not being one myself. It is fun to weave bits of "Shire" into this story.

Thanks!

Lyta PadfootReviewed Chapter: 3 on 7/7/2004
Poor Bucca, Primrose and little ones. Tokka is dead and they don't yet know it. Interesting that Bucca's father is known as 'the Thorn'. I'm curious to see how that morphs into the Thain. I'm loving the echoes of 'Shire' in this story.

Author Reply: Thanks for reviewing.

Am hoping it does not stretch the limits of credulity to put forth somehow that "Thain" is a plural sort of form of "Thorn". Now how to work it into the text...

Lyta PadfootReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/17/2004
Interesting that you've achieved such a clear picture of the state of Paladin and Pippin's relationship without having them meet in this chapter! Paladin appears to expect Pippin to behave in a certain way and is angry when his son fulfills his expectations. Attempts at behaving are not probably given positive reinforcement and Pippin comes to see his father expectations as too high - so why bother? Its a sad situation for Paladin, on some level he has to know he isn't doing the right thing but that knowledge only makes him angrier.

ConnieReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/17/2004
I can see there is going to be a lot of head butting between Pippin and his father in this story. I try not to think too baddly of him, but I think he tries too hard to make his son over in his own image. I see a lot of stress coming.

Connie.

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