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Thain  by Lindelea 164 Review(s)
ConnieReviewed Chapter: 4 on 7/11/2004
Oh, that was a hard chapter to read, at least for me. I know children need responsibiilities, and that they need descipline when they don't do as they're told; but it was still really hard to sit through Paladin's rebuke of his children.

I can see that this could devolve into a very sad and disfunctiional family. All of the children seem like basicly good kids, and maybe they need love maore than a parent's constant anger and displeasure with everything they do.

I need to shut up now. I have a bad habit of being very opinionated about kids, and how they're raised.

Connie.

Author Reply: Well, I think they need consistency along with that love. Alternate spoiling and scolding don't work well.

My goodness, it is difficult to write this story, if only to show a logical progression from Paladin-loving father to Paladin-unsympathetic Thain. It's a challenge, and challenges can keep me going when I don't feel like writing at all, but still...

People do change over time. The Greeks were famous for their tragedies, usually based upon a character flaw, and the ending inevitable despite the character's best intentions. I have forced that same dynamic to be in effect for this story, with the conditions set forth in earlier stories, and am not completely happy about it. Go figure.

Still, am going to try to pull the whole "fanon" together with this fill-in of the missing link. Yikes. Hope it doesn't finish me!

ConnieReviewed Chapter: 3 on 7/9/2004
I'm still playing chatch-up on all the reading I missed.

I like the changes to chapter one.

I'm curious to see how the history chapters and the more current story weave together. I know there's going to be a lot of connection. You don't write anything without a purpose.

Connie.

Author Reply: Thanks for reviewing. Finally got the next "Bucca" chapter hammered out, complete with computer crash just after completing it, and some careful reconstruction. Hope it suits.

BodkinReviewed Chapter: 3 on 7/7/2004
Poor Bucca, left without his twin, supporting all the rest of his family. I love the parts that follow on from Shire: the Beginnings. It's always hard on those who are left behind in the aftermath of war.



Author Reply: I can only imagine what it must be like for Bucca, having known twins but not being one myself. It is fun to weave bits of "Shire" into this story.

Thanks!

Lyta PadfootReviewed Chapter: 3 on 7/7/2004
Poor Bucca, Primrose and little ones. Tokka is dead and they don't yet know it. Interesting that Bucca's father is known as 'the Thorn'. I'm curious to see how that morphs into the Thain. I'm loving the echoes of 'Shire' in this story.

Author Reply: Thanks for reviewing.

Am hoping it does not stretch the limits of credulity to put forth somehow that "Thain" is a plural sort of form of "Thorn". Now how to work it into the text...

Lyta PadfootReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/17/2004
Interesting that you've achieved such a clear picture of the state of Paladin and Pippin's relationship without having them meet in this chapter! Paladin appears to expect Pippin to behave in a certain way and is angry when his son fulfills his expectations. Attempts at behaving are not probably given positive reinforcement and Pippin comes to see his father expectations as too high - so why bother? Its a sad situation for Paladin, on some level he has to know he isn't doing the right thing but that knowledge only makes him angrier.

ConnieReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/17/2004
I can see there is going to be a lot of head butting between Pippin and his father in this story. I try not to think too baddly of him, but I think he tries too hard to make his son over in his own image. I see a lot of stress coming.

Connie.

FantasyFanReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/17/2004
Well, Pip is a thoroughly disruputable scoundrel, isn't he? Why, he reminds me of my youngest! Not that Raven ever has stolen a plate of gingerhobbits, but she has been known to wheedle her older brothers into finishing her chores. But Pip sounds a bit more spoiled than Raven, who really does have a good head on her shoulders. It sounds like this story will feature Pippin getting into more than a little trouble. Good thing we know it all turns out well in the end.

I'll register my vote on your latest poll here. I think that for the time periods that you are writing in right now, in Starfire and here in Thain, that we are not likely to avoid the Ferdi-angst no matter what. Ferdi's worst time fast approaching, and he's not too sure of himself even in the time of Starfire. With all you've already written of him, you can't avoid stressing him out a little in these stories. But, I think it is worth considering whether some other hobbits need to get a little focus as well. Ferdi has had so much happen to him, and has come out of such terrible trials so many times, that he's almost a super-hobbit now. And that's not bad - we love him for all of it. There are few who can write a hobbit OC as strongly and completely as you do. And the 'supporting hobbits' like Rosemary and Tolly have each gotten a chance for development, here and there, but I'd like to see more. Not necessarily angst, although I understand that there has to be conflict and resolution to keep a story interesting. I would dearly love to see more of your stories focusing on the wonderful strength of the ladies of the Tookland, and it would be great to hear more of the hobbits of Ithilien - the story of Forget-me-not and Frodovar has been mentioned, and it's and example of the type of thing I'd love to see it. Just my humble opinion, all of it, and I will love and avidly devour anything you choose to write.
FF

BeruthielReviewed Chapter: 2 on 6/17/2004
I've just been reading your later stories, and I barely recognized Pippin here. I'd forgotten how irresponsible he was in his youth!

Can't wait for more.

Meldewen IlceReviewed Chapter: 1 on 6/17/2004
All right, Lindelea, I have really hoped you'd start this story soon as I want to know how Paladin went from being the loving father he was in say "Pearl" to what he is later like in "Jewels"! I know I came to realize at least part of what happened to him during the course of reading "Pearl" and it was something Pearl said that just made me go "Ah-ha! That's what happened to him!" I think a great deal of his problem was having to take up being Thain instead of remaining at the farm he loved so much!

Anyway, I can't wait for his story and the other story looks great too! Though I shudder at the thought of the dugeons of Angmar - heck with anything to do with the Witch-King of Angmar!

Please DO update soon!

Author Reply: I updated. Always happy to oblige.

Still pondering the angst-sequence we talked about, so don't know if the next "Pippin update" will be delayed while I work it out, or if I'll just flip a coin in the end. Ferdi? not-Ferdi?

You were right about what happened to Paladin. Very astute reading.

Thanks for commenting.

Author Reply: BTW, I know I answered this already, but have some recent updates... Haven't yet got to the "spoiling" of Paladin, but there's more about it in the later chapters of "StarFire" if you hadn't read that one yet.

ConnieReviewed Chapter: 1 on 6/16/2004
Oops. I think I just sent you a blank review. Sorry about that.

This looks like it could be an interesting story. I'm curious to see where it's going. Glad to see something new so soon.

Connie.

Author Reply: I'm curious, too. The outline has already been rewritten three times... LOL.

Thanks for the encouragement.

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