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Time's Turnings  by daw the minstrel 299 Review(s)
thechevinReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/22/2005
This was such a satisfying last chapter that I can hardly bring myself to complain that the story has ended!
Ithilden and Sinnarn, Thranduil and Ithilden what an astute Adar the king is and how much it must hurt him to see his sons and grandson growing up and away from the protection he wants to surround them with and yet he still allows it to happen, even against his better judgement.
I was pleased that Ithilden felt he could compliment his Adar on the way he had brought Legolas up. It is rare that someone tells the king he has done well I suspect and Ithilden is the closest thing he has to someone he can fully confide in.
It was touching that Thranduil noted the togetherness of Ithilden and Alfirin it must hurt him very much to be so alone.
His thoughts on Eilian made me smile as usual, not quite damned by faint praise but almost
But most poignant of all was the scene at the end between Beliond and Legolas both have grown during this story and learnt more about each other and their roles, the 'old grouch' really does care for Legolas and it seems Legolas cares for him.
There was so much more but suffice to say I have loved every chapter and now look forward to reading a new tale very soon
thank you
Judy



Author Reply: Thranduil is a good father, I think, and he's learned a great deal from raising his sons. Lorellin was around for most of that, thank goodness. Still, he had his hands full with Legolas, and I was struck by your observation that people probably seldom compliment Thranduil. As you say, Ithilden is the closest thing he has to a confidante and a compliment on how he raised Legolas would be especially precious, I think. He probably is lonely, and he has such a heavy weight of responsibility. But he's so used to it that he doesn't even notice it, which is almost sadder.

I learned a lot about Beliond while writing this story. That scene in which he and Legolas talked about his son struck me as central to understanding him (and Legolas too).

Glad you liked it, Judy. I have to work for a bit at what I get paid to do, but then a new story will be along.

BodkinReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/22/2005
'You and Bodkin are both agitating for more elflings for Alfirin and Ithilden! I'm holding my head here moaning about an overload of OCs. I'll never again get a new reader! And Eilian and Celuwen need a baby. Moaaaan.'

Don't worry about it!! Unless you're planning on doing lots of post-quest stuff. Elflings born after the Five Armies will still only be kids by the War of the Ring. And just think of the comic potential!

Alfirin is just so maternal - I can't imagine her letting Ithilden get away with only having one child. And if Celuwen becomes pregnant, Alfirin's big doggie eyes will defeat Ithilden in no time.

And, anyway, much as I love Legolas and Thranduil, your stories wouldn't work nearly so well if the OCs weren't so good - they could support the whole shebang on their own. They've got their own fan clubs now.


Author Reply: Ha, Bodkin! I just got an emailed review from someone who skips the Sinnarn parts. :-)

KarriReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/21/2005
I am glad Legolas worked up the courage to speak to Beliond about his over-protectiveness, but - oi! - learning to pick locks? Thranduil will frown when he learns about it. Great story, as always, daw!

Author Reply: Thank you, Karri. I think Beliond and Legolas learned some stuff about one another and themselves. At least, I hope so. You don't think the Elvenking will approve of his youngest son picking locks? Think of the plot possibilities, Karri!!!

KarriReviewed Chapter: 11 on 2/21/2005
It seems a little sad to me that Legolas performing his duties well catches everyone so much by surprise. A great chapter, though. :-) Thranduil's reactions to Eilian's report were otherwise amusing. I feel badly for Ithildin, though, who wants so badly to close to his son.

Author Reply: I don't know that they're exactly surprised that Legolas did well. I think what it is is that they're not used to thinking of him as the competent warrior. That's not how they picture him, so they have to kind of adjust. That's how I feel about my son sometimes. I know he's smart and capable, but he catches me by surprise sometimes. I still think of him as a kid.

Ithilden is being so careful with Sinnarn, and Sinnarn is just so difficult right now. Fortunately time will cure what ails Sinnarn!

esamenReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/21/2005
Gorgeous ending sentence. I love the contrast between Legolas and Beliond as it plays out in this story. Nicely drawn.

Sinnarn in a new aspect of the world of Lasgalen--hmm, lots of possibilities here! Legolas would have loved a year sleeping outside under the stars, wouldn't he? Sounds like a very interesting idea to explore. I hope he takes up the offer so we can all see life from his new perspective.

I was so glad to see the update. Like an unexpected present! Thank you!

Esamen



Author Reply: I do think Legolas would have loved a year under the stars, although he seems to be getting plenty of that now. But I think he was a more serious kid than Sinnarn is and he wouldn't have accepted that year off if he had any choice at all.

I've learned a lot about Beliond in writing this story. He's fun to write.

FarawynReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/21/2005
Wonderful! I wish there was more.

Author Reply: I'm glad you liked it, Farawyn. That's all for this story, but there are always others. :-)

BrazgirlReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/21/2005
Another story comes to an end...
I love the way you ended the conversation bewteen Ithilden and Sinnarn. Also loved Thranduil taking some time before speaking without interfering in his son's dealing with Sinnarn... and, of course, Legolas and Beliond.
It was so nice to see Beliond's affection and respect for Legolas! I could read some respect there!!! Also suprising to read him talk - even just a bit - about his son. Great job, Daw!!!

Author Reply: I'm glad you liked the Sinnarn/Ithilden interaction. I hadn't written much about Ithilden as a father before and I was interested in it. And I learned a lot about Beliond in writing this too. I really felt his sorrow for his son.

So thanks for all the reviews, Brazgirl. I'll be back with another story eventually. Hope to see you then.

AliceReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/21/2005
Wow. This chapter had so many touching moments. That last scene with Beliond, just wow. Poor Beliond. He needs a hug. Though I doubt he thinks so. That's ok. We know better.

So, excellent scene with Sinnarn and Ithilden. You portrayed Ithilden's anxiety and emotions very well. He's such a good parent. Alfirin too. They should have more elflings. Come on, you know Sinnarn would be so into corrupting a little brother or sister.

Also nice scene with Thranduil. I couldn't help but grin when I got to the line about Thranduil hoping that men were not going to become part of the people Legolas felt obligated to protect. You've done a very nice job with developing Legolas's protective to a fault personality. It's constant throughout your stories. Oh, I also liked Thranduil asking about when his grandson is coming back to his table. I get suck a kick out of how Thranduil talks to people. He always picks the best words for getting what he wants. Alfirin wasn't fooled though. She knows her rights.

Poor Galelas. He needs a hug too. Darn it, Daw, you just had to kill him off later didn't you? After making us get all attached to him too. Okay, having read other reviewers' comments, maybe it's just me that's all attached. Well the scene was really nice. Like that sentence about the lonely bird, beautiful. Also, the exchange between Gewiel, Tinar's Nana, and Tinar was hilarious. Oy, they all so deserve each other. Except Galelas. They don't deserve him.

So, the scene with Beliond, very, very nice. It wrapped up the story very nicely. Beliond rocked my socks throughout this story. I mean with the juggling knives, the lock picking ( excellent reward by the way), and him actually opening up for once (because no matter what the old grouch thinks, talking will help), he was just fabulous. His character got some very nice development out of this story, which I enjoyed greatly. He's one of my favorite of your OCs, though perhaps not one I would want to deal with in person.

This has been a very enjoyable story. Very nice suspense, great character development, and the theme tied it all together very nicely. I greatly look forward to your next story, so please write fast.

Author Reply: You and Bodkin are both agitating for more elflings for Alfirin and Ithilden! I'm holding my head here moaning about an overload of OCs. I'll never again get a new reader! And Eilian and Celuwen need a baby. Moaaaan.

Thranduil is nicely possessive about his grandchild, which is lucky for Sinnarn. Thranduil loves him and that must help him sometimes.

I have to admit I felt really bad about Galelas as I was writing that scene. The lonely bird, yes. Singing it's heart out and only Eilian notices. I comfort myself by thinking that he would be treated as a hero in the Halls of Mandos. He'd like that.

I got to know Beliond a lot better while I was writing this story, and it's helped me to see how he and Legolas would deal with one another too. It can't be an easy relationship.

I'm glad you liked it, Alice. I have to work a little for a bit and then I'll think of another story although I don't know just what yet.

Ms. WhatsitReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/21/2005
Thranduil sighed. In his more rational moments, he knew that Legolas was well on his way to becoming a strong adult, but he still worried that his youngest son was too inclined to take on the battles of others and thus place himself in unnecessary danger. He hoped Legolas was not about to add Men to the list of those he felt obligated to protect.

LOL. Ah, yes, that list. I wonder how Thranduil will feel about that list post-LOTR, when Gimli and Aragorn and the hobbits are on it.

“I have decided that you have earned the right to learn to open a lock without a key,” he said.

Legolas blinked. “You mean pick it?”

Beliond frowned. “That is a low term, but yes, that is what I mean.”


Heh. That is so Beliond. "I do not pick locks. I merely open them without keys." Rather like "he ran into my knife."

That Beliond-Legolas conversation at the end was fantastic and moving. And so was the part with Galelas and Eilian. Poor guy.

I'm glad Ithilden's giving his son options. A warrior who resents his duty can't be a good warrior.



Author Reply: Legolas has been gearing up to be Legolas of the Fellowship for pretty much all his life, and his father is just going to have to accept that the son he loves is like that. :-)

I really got to know Beliond better while writing this story. I wrote backstory for him and thought about where he had been and how he felt about his son.

And I feel really bad for Galelas. He needs to be appreciated. At least his life as a warrior gave him some satisfaction. And he'll be honored as a hero in the Halls of Mandos.

Jay of LasgalenReviewed Chapter: 12 on 2/21/2005
Oh, I forgot - three cheers for Tinar's wife about the mending! Serves him right!


Jay

Author Reply: True. She's not very pleasant, but then if I were married to Tinar and living with his family, I wouldn't be very pleasant either.

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