Time's Turnings by daw the minstrel

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emjo · 27 January 2005 · Chapter 6: Dale

humm the easterling thing should be interesting, and I love how protective Beliond is of Legolas. Just wanted to tell you I am so enjoying this story and very excited to see what you have in store for us all!

Author's reply

Glad you're enjoying it! I'm not so sure Legolas loves how protective Beliond is of him, despite the fact that it's amusing for us to watch. As a matter of fact, I think 'nana' is the right nickname. "Stay close to me in the marketplace." Can't you just picture a mommy saying that to her six-year-old? LOL

Manderly · 27 January 2005 · Chapter 6: Dale

What a colourful chapter! I felt like I was in Dale myself as you described the place so vividly. I had to laugh at Legolas' reaction. He was probably having a serious case of senses overload trying to take in everything at once. And his reaction to men's shortcomings were highly amusing - they can't tell time by themselves? (yes, we need our digital clocks and watches); juggling ball is considered a talent? (not all of us have elven reflexes). It was nice to see Beliond loosening up a bit. You keeping giving us glimpses of his colourful background. I am hoping that someday you will give us the whole picture. I am beginning to feel excitement building up. Hope to see the next chapter soon.

Author's reply

Thank you. I was just telling Meckinock (below) that I'm glad the description of Dale came off. I don't usually use much description but I've always liked the sound of Dale and wanted it to be a place that looked like it was fun to go to. But for elves, as you say, that might be sensory overload. They like the woods, not the noisy, overdone stuff Men use to stimluate themselves. Beliond the Juggler just sort of happened. I suddenly realized that elves would probably be pretty good at juggling and Beliond was an irresistable choice to do it.

meckinock · 27 January 2005 · Chapter 6: Dale

Oh, Daw, what a fun chapter! Starting with the keepers' bonding session. For some reason I just love Maltanaur and Beliond together. Your descriptions of Dale were wonderful - from the visual layout to the smells and sounds and bustle of market day. The scene of the four elves making their way through the crowded streets was wonderfully vibrant and detailed. I loved - LOVED - how Beliond's grumpy admonishments about keeping a low profile got turned on their head - Beliond, the juggler! Who knew he had it in him? And Legolas's recollection of the time Eilian juggled six knives made me laugh. This chapter was just the best.

Author's reply

I like Maltanaur and Beliond together too. When they're together, I feel sorry for Beliond and really love Maltanaur. He's such a perceptive guy. And Beliond needs that. He tends to be a loner anyway and losing his family pushed that tendency to an extreme. Thranduil was a clever king to make his Legolas's guard. And I'm glad Dale was vivid. Elrond talks about the "merry bells of Dale" and that's always made it sound like an attractive place to me. I'm not usually good with descriptions but I did want Dale to come alive. So I was thinking about street scenes and thought about a juggler and then I realized that elves might not be so impressed by a juggler! Beliond just sort of stepped front and center.

Karri · 27 January 2005 · Chapter 6: Dale

I agree with Beliond. I do not like this merchant. He seems awfully interested in Legolas, as though he recognizes him (or perhaps recognized the golden hair.)

Author's reply

The merchant is a little suspicious looking, but then Beliond is a suspicious kind of guy. :-) I love him, I do.

lwarren · 26 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

That Sinnarn is enough to cause one serious case of heart failure! I wonder if it ever occurred to him just how close he came to being shot when he startled those men like that. He needs to learn to satisfy his curiosity in a somewhat safer way...I'm sure that the patrol guards would love to teach him, as soon as they start breathing again! LOL Ithilden was very composed, I thought, and I'm glad Alfirin decided this was one time things didn't need smoothing over...their son needs to realize what danger he put himself in. Of course, at his age, he's "not listening" at all! :-) I wonder if his daeradar is going to be as indulgent with his little escapade, given the rumors and trouble brewing with men and all. Yay!!! Legolas and Beliond ARE going with Eilian and Maltanaur. What FUN!!! I hope Legolas and Beliond find some way to connect. They are very tense with each other. Legolas seems to always be on the defensive...he expects Beliond to doubt his ability and reacts, whether Beliond does or not. And Beliond ...didn't he lose his son at Dagorlad? I think I read that in another story...if so, watching a youngster like Legolas would be so hard. He would want to be extra tough on him so he didn't make the same mistakes as his son did. That's sad...for both of them. Yes, a connection would be nice...Legolas needs to save everybody, including Beliond (SUPERLegolas!) or something dramatic...nah - it's never that easy. Half the fun will be watching them work out this relationship...which you are really good at, daw! Great chapter! On to Dale!

Author's reply

Sinnarn was momentarily frightened by his encounter with the Men, but he seems to have forgotten his fear the minute he's safe again. Testosterone poisoning is not a pretty sight, I'm afraid. I'll bet Thranduil was terrified for his grandson, but I think he'd leave the disciplining to Ithilden and Alfirin. They trained him well when Sinnarn was small! Just last night I was thinking about Beliond's son and looking to see if I'd mentioned him yet in this story. It turned out I hadn't and I think I need to because I think that son is a big reason for the way Beliond reacts to Legolas for good and for bad. I'd like to show their relationship developing a little, but I have a hard time being patient enough with something like that. Fortunately, my beta is good at telling me when I'm rushing. Thank you for the review.

perelleth · 26 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

Oh my! poor Sinnarn!!! I mean, he is a child, and the men were so frightened they could have even shot him...Sigh! What a shock for the child! ( and the elven warriors, yes...!!!)Anyway, being a kid is such a difficult task! ;-) Things you guess are innocent and fun suddenly turn out to be a potential disaster, a serious lecture from adar included!!! poor thing, he must be truly miserable!!! Anyway, I hope Ithilden remembers that a lot of explaining used to work wonders when LEgolas was that age, and that children cannot be ordered around just like warriors!!! He's doing well though, this wise Ithilden, still he canot avoid just being too much like his Adar!!! :-) So!! we're having that highly anticipated special patrol to Dale! I'm enjoying from this moment on! Shouldn't you warn the people there? ;-) Legolas is so fun with al that "all-grown-up-can-care for myself" attitude!!! It's so typical! I wonder what'd have Legolas thought had MAltanaur been his keeper. I'm sure he wouldn't have liked him better, even if he's so different from Beliond. The thing is he just has to learn to adjust to minor ( and great) inconveniences of life, and having Beliond at his back is kind of a good starter!!! I'm looking forward to next chapters. Things can be a bit tight in Dale if the Men are so nervous about the elves, and then, even Eilian's diplomacy and easy-going temper cannot be enough to uncover the evil plot! Mm I hope you give him a good chance to receive some praise from his Adar... ;-)

Author's reply

Poor Sinnarn indeed. He never means to get into trouble. He's just curious and adventuresome. There's a lot of Uncle Eilian in him. I can see why Ithilden didn't tell him about the Men ahead of time. He can't possibly have thought there was any way Sinnarn needed to know that, and it might worry him. But he does need to be talking to his son so that Sinnarn remembers how much he's loved. I think Sinnarn is lucky that Legolas kind of broke Ithilden in a little. You know, I think you're right. Legolas would probably have been prickly even under Maltanaur's supervision. He's just not as easy going as Eilian. He's got time to learn, fortunately. I'm working on Dale right now. We'll see how it all goes!

Alice · 25 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

Sinnarn's very much a woodelf sometimes. I love how throws out the fact that he wanted to talk to the men because his Adar said they were interesting. See Ithilden, he does listen to you. Selectively. Poor guy though. He just has the worst luck. While he definitely shouldn't have gone past the borders, Ithilden was being a bit harsh with him. I'm glad Alfirin's there to sort of soften Ithilden. I have to admit though, that Sinnarn's an elf after my own heart. Ooh, new species that's armed. Let's go talk to it! Have I mentioned how much I like Todith? He's a good captain. With gumption. Legolas is the obvious choice for a diplomacy mission with men. He's also the obvious choice to send on a mission with potential danger to get you in trouble with the king. I think this should be one of those times where the information is "too unimportant" to bother Ithilden or Thranduil with. Wouldn't want to take up their valueable time after all. :) I look forward to scenes with Beliond and Maltaunar by the way. They're very different, but they have the same exact job so no one's better able to understand it. Maybe Maltaunar can convince Beliond to loosen Legolas's reins a bit. I'm enjoying the banter also. I look forward to seeing more of it. So, good chapter. Let's hope that Thranduil finds out after the mission is over who Eilian's guards are and that Sinnarn and Ithilden get along better. Update soon!

Author's reply

You're so right! He is a woodelf, and one who is rather cleverly trying to convince his father that he should look benevolently on his latest adventure. Sinnarn never means to get into trouble. He's not defiant. He's not about to go out and rob the Elven 7-11. He's just curious and gets carried away. Todith made what I thought was the logical decision. What's more, far more than Legolas's family, he's seen Legolas acting as a warrior and knows what he can do. So he made the right choice, even if the king might be a little worried by it. I'm hoping I can work a Maltanaur/Beliond scene in. It's hard to get in everything I want to. I can see so much potential in my head, but working it all in is difficult. The reality never quite measures up to my vision.

White Wolf · 25 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

I had to smile when Beliond told Legolas to wach his mouth. Beliond being a spy is intrguing. I bet there's a wealth of material there for a story all its own. Sinnarn, when he's done something wrong and must face Ithilden, reminded me of Legolas facing Thranduil under the same circumstances. Ouch. I'm looking forward to the Dale mission. That should be interesting.

Author's reply

Beliond amuses me, but he's not going to take any guff from Legolas. I suppose that makes a certain amount of sense. He has to be sure that Legolas listens to him for the sake of his own safety. When I started this story, I knew that Beliond had been a spy. I'd written that before. But I hadn't thought about it at all, about where he might have been. So I'm hoping to work that out a little. Sinnarn never means to get into trouble, but the warriors watching the men must have had heart attacks when they saw the king's grandson jump into the line of fire. I'm trying to write about Dale now.

meckinock · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

I can see why Legolas envies Eilian's and Beliond's easy relationship, Eilian's and Maltanaur's relationship, I mean...long day.

Author's reply

I knew that. :-)

meckinock · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

Oh, I just love a boys' camping trip. Especially with these four boys! Maltanaur is so great! He was getting too big a kick out of Beliond and Legolas squabbling. I can see why Legolas envies Eilian's and Beliond's easy relationship, while he struggles to assert himself with Beliond. Wonder what Beliond's spy missions were; that was an intriguing line of discussion. It is so good to see Legolas and Eilian together, though. They have such a warm and comfortable relationship. I can't wait to see what happens in Dale...

Author's reply

I love Maltanaur. I see him as easy going and straightforward, exactly right for Eilian's guard. Beliond is a tougher nut to crack. I think Thranduil picked him because he had lost his own son and he would be protective of Legolas. To Thranduil, that was what mattered most. But Legolas needs to assert his independence a little. Maybe doing it with Beliond will help him do it with Thranduil. I've been thinking a little about where Beliond was when he spied. His loner personality might help him with that, I think.

Antigone Q · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

I'll bet Legolas will enjoy his assignment with Eilian. Poor Sinnarn. He couldn't have done more exactly the wrong thing if he'd tried! And poor Ithilden and Alfirin! Talk about giving your parents a heart attack.

Author's reply

Sinnarn never means to do the wrong thing. He's curious, not defiant. There's a lot of Uncle Eilian and Grandma Lorellin in him, but he also has his father's intelligence. His parents must indeed have been appalled. He had a narrow escape.

Antigone Q · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 3: A Warrior's Lot

Loved the glimpse of Ithilden as a youth. I can just see how the smart, sensible (very stubborn) kid who outwits you might be harder to deal with than the one who is goofing off all the time. And the scene with the glove was very touching, somehow. I'm sure Thranduil misses the ordinary moments, looking for gloves and straightening clothes. I was sorry that Alfirin didn't get her story - she asked so nicely, too. I will protest here on behalf of Foril. I know just what it is like to be continually partnered with "difficult" coworkers or be given the "irritating" clients because you're the one who won't blow up or walk off the job. It really isn't fair to Foril to be stuck with Tinar all the time. Someone else should have to be paired up with him once in a while. Hmm...strange behavior on behalf of the men. I can't guess what's going on. I wonder what will happen with Legolas' horse...

Author's reply

I'll bet that Eilian got into trouble accidentally. He just didn't think. But Ithilden could very well have considered all the angles and decided he was right. I can imagine him and Thranduil butting heads regularly when Ithilden is this age. You're probably right about Foril. Hm. Who deserves Tinar? I'm having trouble thinking of anyone. Maybe if Legolas is out of commission for a while, Beliond can partner with Tinar. LOLOLOL.

Ms. Whatsit · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

I fear that Legolas has a long time to wait before "Nana" starts treating him like an equal. Even Eilian and Maltanaur see him as someone young, to be protected. I wonder if Ithilden's treatment of Sinnarn--and fear of him becoming "self-indulgent"--has anything to do with Lorellin. It seems likely. Thranduil's treatement of Eilian had a lot to do with Eilian's frightening temperamental resemblance to Lorellin. Sinnarn is also cut from the same cloth--and I suspect that Ithilden, in his heart of hearts, often saw Lorellin as impulsive and self-indulgent, and maybe he even thinks that her death was due to her own self-indulgence. And so now that's giving him issues with Sinnarn.

Author's reply

That's an interesting guess about the source of some of Ithilden's fears for Sinnarn. I suppose the near escape that he had this time would add fuel to the fire. He could have been killed so easily. I suspect that Nana Beliond is never going to quite get over seeing Legolas as a punk kid. But then, maybe that's useful.

Bodkin · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

OK, I should still be working, but it's 8 pm and I want to wallow in a world of elves. I love it when Eilian and Legolas get together - they are the two who are best at just being brothers, although Eilian does have moments of getting all protective and maternal. (Does he realise? I'd have thought he would have been horrified.) I'm glad to see Legolas has absorbed the need for cleanliness. It's a very important element of warriorhood. That and enduring Tinar. I'll bet Beliond is as sick as a pig. How can he keep his charge safe when surrounded by MEN. It will do him a lot of good to have some conversations with Maltanaur on the skills involved in keepering. I sense a touch of renegotiating of the L/B relationship. I hope it comes with Legolas being brave, sensible and open-minded - and maybe inserting a tiny wedge in Beliond's prejudices - rather than an equine-inspired disaster. Love Maltanaur's reminder of the dangwath incident. It's about time that Legolas and he got to know each other a little. (There seem to be a lot of stories here asking to be told.) Poor Sinnarn. What an unthinking, headstrong, impulsive wood-elf he is. He must drive his adar absolutely insane. After all, why would he ASK if he could go to see the eagles? Where would be the fun in that? Hasn't the elfling realised yet that when your adar is in charge of all the troops, you have no chance of getting away with stupid behaviour? Legolas would recognise the scenario. Lessons, training and confined to his room. And lucky to escape so easily. I don't think he'd have enjoyed being on the receiving end of one of those arrows. Of course, neither would the men - who would have quickly resembled porcupines. An incident that would definitely have worsened man/elf relations. Good thing Legolas was able to pass on the toy sellers worried to Eilian and back up Educ's words. “I am one of the guards here,” Legolas said dryly. “I am supposed to be insuring your safety, not the other way around.” Note it, big brother. The brat is there to look after you. And, hopefully, the keepers will have lots of interesting chats.

Author's reply

If it's 8 pm, then your employer has gotten all they deserve from you and undoubtedly all they've paid for. Wallow in elves, that's what I say! I think that Eilian is indeed maternal, and whether that would horrify him or not I'm not sure. He seems to me to be pretty sure of his masculinity. He must have been startled when Todith announced that Legolas and Beliond would be his guards. LOL. There are indeed a lot of stories asking to be told here, and I'm thinking I'm not going to be able to work them all in. But maybe I can keep some of them in mind for a future story. The Legolas/Beliond relationship is certainly in need of examination. Beliond is probably ready to spit (just like the men in Dale--ooh, have to go add that to the chapter). But Maltanaur/Beliond and Maltanaur/Legolas would also be very interesting. The warriors keeping an eye on the toy merchants must have about fainted when the king's grandson jumped into the line of fire. How'd you like to have to explain that one back at headquarters??? Sinnarn nearly caused a very serious incident. He didn't mean to. He never does.

The Karenator · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

“I was up keeping the realm safe all night,” Legolas grinned back. I love this line. So droll and to the point. Legolas is doing his job. I'm sure I'm not alone in looking forward to this trip to Dale. The thing I enjoyed most in this chapter was how well you drew the contrast of relationships that the youngest sons have with their keepers. Maltanaur seems to have an easier-going personality than Beliond to start with, and he and Eilian don't seem to have had as much trouble negotiating a companionable relationship as Legolas has had trying to settle in with Beliond. From my perch in the tree, Beliond and Legolas struggle more because of both their personalities. Legolas is more serious--and sensitive--in his make-up than Eilian, and Legolas is more inclined to be offended by Beliond than Eilian probably ever was with Maltanaur. And Legolas has something to prove. So, he and Beliond end up like two huffy goats butting heads. What we have here, ma'am, is a personality clash. Neither one of them helps the situation. They have negotiated a relationship, and it's much better than it was, but Beliond still rubs Legolas wrong, like a burr in his boot. Finding out a little more information about Beliond would be interesting. He's been as stingy with us as he's been with Legolas. Perhaps he'd like to lie down on my couch and tell me about his childhood. Sinnarn, Sinnarn, Sinnarn. A typical teenager. Long on excuses and short on common sense. Fortunately, most kids grow out of this, and we just have to weather the ever-changing storms of moods and stupidity until they stop acting like blockheads. In the meantime, they have no idea how their lives hang in the balance with angry parents. Can't you just hear Ithilden's thoughts? He's the commander of the troops, fer cryin' out loud; he's used to being obeyed, btw, and this kid wants to be warrior. Adar is wondering how HIS kid could be such a moron. Of course, Ithilden loves him more than his own life and is awfully relieved that the kid is safe. Sinnarn's not a bad guy, he's just at a hormonally-challenged age, but this is HIS kid and he's a moron...at the moment; he'll grow out of it. I feel for Ithilden's desire to bang his head against the wall. Kind of makes you wonder what you were thinking when you decided to procreate. Fortunately, this too shall pass. Thranduil tried to warn him that boys were a great source of joy...and irritation. The king is smiling into his Dorwinion. I just love it, too. Ithilden thought he knew so much... Bless his heart. The commander is adorable. I'm sorry we didn't get to hear more of Ithilden and Alfirin's discussion. Ah, parenting the child with more bravado than brains. As the mother of a son past this age, reassure me that everyone survives, and the kid turns out to be more wonderful than you ever dreamed. And say it loud enough for Ithilden to hear. He's beginning to wonder. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to Dale. The big Elves can find out what's behind the rumors and hopefully, we'll get a chance to glimpse a little more of Beliond and his past, or at least, come to understand him better. An exciting trip, I'm sure it will be. Great chapter, Karen

Author's reply

Legolas has gotten good at routine warrior stuff, but his family mostly hasn't seen that, except for in reports that Ithilden has gotten. That's why I thought that Todith might be more willing to send Legolas on this mission that Eilian was. Todith sees Legolas doing well on a daily basis. I really liked your analysis of the relationships of the brothers and their keepers. I'll bet Eilian let most criticism roll off his back and Maltanaur may have been less inclined to criticize anyway, more willing to be amused. But Legolas is serious and sensitive (as you say) and he's the youngest son -- the one his family still sees as a baby. Beliond needs to lighten up. But maybe if Legolas manages to stand up to him, he'll be better off than he would be with someone sympathetic and supportive. Ithilden must be just frantic. He knows how close Sinnarn came to being killed. And his kid's actions could have upset a delicate situation that he knows about (while Sinnarn's friends' parents don't). And the warriors who serve under Ithilden were the ones hauling his kid home. Argh! It's true that everyone does survive this age (usually). As to whether "the kid turns out to be more wonderful than you ever dreamed," well, sort of. He turns out to be his own person, not exactly the one you would have tailor made, but one that's interesting to get to know and one you have to accept. I'm looking forward to writing about Dale. I have some outline for this part (I outlined this whole story in a fair amount of detail while I was on vacation), but I've decided it's a little sketchy so I'll have to do some more thinking before I start drafting.

thechevin · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

Hope my half finished review does not post I blame my cat who sat on the computer mouse, the cat's name is Orlando by the way guess who he is named after As I was saying I am glad I guessed right but have to agree with Maltanaur that Thranduil will not be pleased to learn that both Eilian and Legolas are on their way to Dale It was interesting to see the different ways the two keeper's interact with their charges I think Maltanaur's ease has as much to do with his character and Eilian's as much as the extra time they have been together As for Legolas one more thing to remind him of his comparative youth but at leasr he is not in Sinnarn's boots he is really in trouble it seems and all for the best of reasons and of course the two travellers reappeared I really do not like them at all and hope our elves do not run into them in Dale although I guess they very well might thank you for another lovely update Judy

Author's reply

Your cat apparently didn't hit the right key. My beta's cat and her bird are always sending me IM messages too. Maybe Thranduil doesn't have to find out about the trip to Dale? LOL. Oh, who am I kidding? He probably already knows. I agree about Maltanaur's and Eilian's characters both being more relaxed than Beliond's and Legolas's. I don't think the latter two are ever going to have the same kind of relationship that Maltanaur and Eilian do. But it can get a little easier, and should I think. Legolas has earned some trust. Sinnarn never means to get in trouble and always does. Poor kid! The two men were headed west, so they should be gone. But there are plenty more where they came from!

Bodkin · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

This isn't a review, because I don't have time to do it justice right now. It's just a passing thought. If Beliond (and other elves) dislike men because of Isildur's weakness in retaining the One Ring, how do they balance that against Feanor and his sons and their possessive greed for the Silmarils? All men bad / all elves good? Doesn't quite work. As generalisations never do.

Author's reply

LOL. Elves are no more consistent than Men are. I think you should be the one to point that out to Beliond, Bodkin.

Elemmíre · 24 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

Thank you for another wonderful chapter! I've been re-reading all your stories, a few a night. They are all quite good, of course, but I can see the improvement between the first few & your latest! And your stories often provoke tasty dreams... ;) Now if only Eilian would stop running away from me... & I can't believe you almost killed him off! I'd forgotten about that. Then he had to go & get married. Maybe I should go back to adoring Legolas. That got a little off-track...anyways, I may not be much of a reviewer, but I never miss a chapter! I find myself constantly hopping on to see if you've updated...very bad habit. I am looking forward to the next chapter...Legolas & Eilian! I like Maltanaur & Beliond too–your OCs are exceptionally good. I can picture them so vividly! You capture each personality so well in words. Enough rambling. Keep writing. ;) One of your many adoring fans, Elemmíre

Author's reply

You're making me blush here, Elemmire! I'm glad you can see the stories getting better. I think they do, but it's all sort of pulling myself up by my own bootstraps and the advice of my beta. She's made a huge difference to me. I wish I could dream about my characters, but I never do. I lie awake thinking about a story sometimes, but I've never had them come easily to me in my dreams. And Eilian had hundreds of years of bachelorhood. You could fit your whole lifetime in there somewhere. I think he'd be a little wearing though! I love my OCs. It's shameless really. We'll see how they do in Dale. Thank you for letting me know you're reading. daw

French Pony · 23 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

From somewhere nearby, a robin warbled a three part song. A real robin, Legolas thought, That struck me as a potentially great opportunity for comedy -- maybe not in this particular story, but an opportunity nevertheless. Two Elf patrols, sneaking sneakily through the woods, both patrols are expecting a robin signal for something completely different, a real robin sings, and wacky hijinks ensue. I see Thranduil's army does have some small perks, like letting people sleep till they wake up. That probably leads to better soldiers in the long run, anyhow. Legolas seemed to require more sleep, a need that probably arose from the fact that he was still growing, Oh, you are such a mom. My mom always used to say that to me, generally on nights when something interesting was going on past my bedtime. although he rolled his eyes in annoyance whenever Beliond smugly pointed that out. Which is, of course, the traditional reply. And then the instant that Legolas is an inch taller than Beliond, he'll start rubbing that in Beliond's face. He stripped and waded in, flinching slightly at the temperature of the water, still frigid from the spring melt of snow in the mountains of Mirkwood. Bleh! I suppose that this little bit of unpleasantness is the price to pay for the privilege of sleeping in? I wonder why Elves always bathe directly in the rivers. It's a pretty vulnerable position to be in, not to mention with sharp rocks on the riverbed. Bucket baths would be safer, because you could have them in the camouflage of your flet, and one could still have one's nekkid-Elf-writing jollies anyway. “I grant you it has been a while,” Beliond said with a faint smile. “Let us keep it that way.” I bet Beliond is the kind of person who also says things like, "It could be worse. . . it could be raining." And then the heavens open. Legolas 'n' Eilian 'n' Beliond 'n' Maltanaur. Somehow, I don't think that's quite what Thranduil had in mind for this particular outing. What he doesn't know won't hurt him. The trick, of course, is a) making sure that there's nothing to know or, since a) is highly unlikely, b) making sure that Thranduil doesn't find out about whatever will happen. Too late for poor Sinnarn, of course. He does have a case -- a weak one, but a case. There was no way he could know about the issues that the Men and the Elves have been having because Ithilden has inherited Thranduil's habit of not communicating with his offspring and hasn't told him anything. I just realized. . . way back a few chapters ago, I was going to tell Alfirin how to cook parsnips real tasty, and I forgot. So, here goes: The Carol Parsnips. Peel and chop some parsnips into bite-size chunks. Put them in vegetable broth to which you have added some rosemary leaves and a bay leaf. Simmer either until tender or until you are done with three pages of research paper and remember that you have parsnips cooking, whichever comes first. Drain the parsnips and set them aside. Heat some olive oil with more rosemary and another bay leaf until it is warm but not smoking. Pour it over the parsnips (the hot oil will hiss, but don't let that stop you), salt and pepper them puppies, and toss so that the parsnips are dressed. Turn the whole mess out into a serving dish and make a nice wreath of bay and rosemary around it. This dish is in honor of The Parsnip Carol, which is the vegetarian (or kosher) version of The Boar's Head Carol, which begins, "The boar's head (or parsnip) in hand bear I / Bedecked with bays and rosemary."

Author's reply

Wacky hijinks with the bird calls?! I think not. Wood-elves would die of embarassment! But maybe that's a reason to do it. Yeah, I am a Mom. I can't help myself. Actually, I think Legolas is taller than Beliond even now. All of Thranduil's sons are tall. But he's still filling out. I used to teach in a small engineering college and sometimes I'd have the same male students as freshmen and then again as seniors, and they'd still be the same height but they'd look quite a lot more grown up as seniors than as skinny freshmen. So I think Legolas is in that stage. Bucket baths? For nature-boy Wood elves? Well, I grant you it would be safer. But this was much more fun. :-) Fortunately for all concerned, none of the four elves on their way to Dale is likely to go blabbling to Thranduil. Inconvenient information can always be kept out of the report. But poor Sinnarn. He means so well. He's just curious, and then he's surprised to find himself in trouble again. He has a lot of Uncle Eilian and Grandma Lorellin in him. Thank you for the parsnip recipe. I'll try it next week maybe. Tonight we're having leftover home made pizza. I made the dough and put dried cherries and blue cheese on it. Yum!

esamen · 23 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

Oh, I am happy. Keeper action times TWO! This is great! I saw the contrast in relationships coming right away (aren't you proud of me, your clever reader) and I was in heaven the whole time I read it. "Legolas could hear Maltanaur chuckling softly as he started back to meet Eilian, leading their two horses. Clamping his mouth shut to avoid saying something he would regret, Legolas threw his pack across Tavor’s back and started after Maltanaur." Oh, yes. Legolas has a lot of growing up to do. Still pretty insecure, huh? "Legolas listened attentively as Maltanaur described Dale, but part of his mind was busy noticing the easy relationship between Eilian and his keeper. Beliond had told Legolas almost nothing about himself, and Legolas could not imagine his keeper saying he would take his cue from Legolas. He wondered how long it had taken before Maltanaur began treating Eilian as a friend, as an equal. And he wondered if he would ever be able to get Beliond to do that." Too funny. Legolas is trying to "get Beliond to do" something? Does that boy EVER have a long way to go. It seems to me that there's a long road for these two to travel before they get to the relationship they have in A Question of Duty. I am going to enjoy every chapter of the trip. And Sinnarn -- too cute -- oh, that boy is trouble on the run. Leads right into your Sinnarn of Tangled Web. You really have this universe organized! Do you keep it locked up in your closet, and take it out at night to play with? Or do you go look at it to see what your characters have done while you were gone? I just watched the film Troy, and I have to say that I have a really good idea now of what young Legolas looks like in leggings (heh). Happy travels with your warriors, Esamen

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Legolas and Beliond have some things to work out, but I suspect they're never going to be on the same terms that Eilian and Maltanaur are. Neither one of them has the personality for it. I'll bet Eilian let criticism roll off his back from day one and I'll be Maltanaur was less inclined to criticize anyway. He just kept an eye on his charge and hoped they'd both survive. He probably recognized the inevitability of Eilian's actions, whereas Beliond sees Legolas as trainable. On the other hand, Beliond is probably NOT trainable, so Legolas should give up all thoughts of trying to "get Beliond to do" anything. Poor Sinnarn. He never means to get into trouble. He's just curious and eager to meet the world head on. I think it's the Grandma Lorellin in him. My characters do surprise me sometimes, mostly when I ask them what they're feeling now. But because I've written these stories out of order, I have to keep pretty close track of things too. I liked "Troy." It was fun to watch, leggings, short skirts, and all.

Karri · 23 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

Oi! Two Thranduilion on their way to Dale! I can't wait to see what comes of this. :-)

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Yes, I thought two sons of Thranduil and two keepers would be twice as good as one of each. :-)

Karri · 23 January 2005 · Chapter 4: Taking on Responsibilities

Seeing Ithildin in his difficult age is too entertaining for words! :-D And Eilian on his way to Dale with eyes all alight...can't be good, but is sure to be a good read. ;-)

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Poor Ithilden! He was such a painfully earnest adolescent. Alfirin was right. He did need someone to appreciate him. On the other hand, Eilian has an assignement he likes. We'll see how it goes.

sofia · 23 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

In a way I'm glad it was Ithilden who saw Sinnarn with the guard rather than Alfirin. Shock Legolas' tender ears... I love that line!

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I think Ithilden would take a warrior's presence in stride better than Alfirin would. And he'd understand the situation much more quickly. He must have about fainted at the thought of his son being in the line of fire. Legolas's tender ears. Yes. ;-) I wonder what Maltanaur did? I'll have to think up that story sometime.

Nilmandra · 23 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

My favorite part of this chapter really was the contrast in relationships between the brothers and their keepers. Maltanaur and Eilian have fallen into an easy comraderie, with Maltanaur not forgetting his position but respecting Eilian's abilities. Beliond is more elusive than Maltanaur - less friendly, mabye, and less likely to fall into friendship with you charge. Legolas does want what Eilian has, and wonders if he will get it. I do like the addition of the comment...poor Legolas, to be reminded of that, and yet it was also a great thought about the elves...in our lives, we would hope he would have retired by now, but no, they watch each other grow up and only physical death separates them! How different..not sure I would like that.

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Maltanaur has had an easier life that Beliond in a way. He's married and has a married daughter and a grandchild. Eilian is like a son to him. And I think he's a more relaxed person to start with. Thank goodness. Beliond and Eilian would not have done well together. Beliond is probably never going to be like Maltanaur, but he could certainly give Legolas a little more credit that he currently seems to do. Or maybe Legolas is just too sensitive. We'll see how things go. I was glad you reminded me of the dangwath incident. Incorporating the memory was a good idea.

Jay of Lasgalen · 23 January 2005 · Chapter 5: Trust

Oh, my. Sinnarn, when will you learn? You are not the first in your family to learn the hard way about disobeying and exploring too far afield. Thank heavens those guards were there, or poor Sinnarn may have been stuck as full of pins as a hedgehog. I'm glad that Legolas is 'guarding' Eilian on this mission - though who is guarding whom is a moot point. There seems to be chance for lots of brotherly interaction, as well as fun with the minders. I look forward to the visit to Dale! Jay

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Poor Sinnarn. He didn't mean to do anything too bad. He was just curious and eager to see the eagles and then meet the men. In a way, you can see Ithilden's influence on him. But not influence enough apparently. The Home Guard warriors must have nearly fainted dead away when the king's grandson jumped into the line of fire. I hope the trip to Dale is amusing. There's good potential there if I can think of how to use it well. I think our reviews crossed. :-)