Neath Anor, Ithil, and Gil by Larner

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harrowcat · 2 April 2007 · Chapter 3: Writing

I think Frodo would be pleased to know that the slate was being put to good use.

Author's reply

Oh, I agree completely. Love to the folks and Jet.

Linda Hoyland · 2 April 2007 · Chapter 3: Writing

Amoving glimpse into what it is like to be "different".

Author's reply

Thank you, Linda. I'm honored.

shirebound · 2 April 2007 · Chapter 3: Writing

This is wonderful. You've woven so much Shire history, and so much of Tribbals' heart, into this piece. I love her many connections to... FB.

Author's reply

I'm so glad you like it, Shirebound. One client I work with on occasion was methodically doing her lines of hearts one day, obviously proud of what she was producing. Certainly our clients watch us with our interminable writing and record keeping and wish to emulate us "staff." And when we appreciate their work they are so pleased! Then I found Tribbals at my elbow, letting me know she, too, does the same, and I had to let her determination to write be known.

Queen Galadriel · 14 March 2007 · Chapter 1: A Matter of Record

*chuckles* Oh, I love that! Of all the reasons the Shirefolk used red ink, I never would have thought of that one! :) I didn't realise I'd missed this until today when I was looking for something short to read. Hope to catch up on "Rings" and "The Tenant" over spring break, in a little more than another week, yea!! :) God bless, Galadriel

Author's reply

This was a carry over from Stirring Rings, actually. So glad you enjoyed it, my Lady. A good deal different feel from what you last wrote, I'm certain. Glad you enjoyed it. Now, to get BACK to writing Stirring Rings and the Tenant.

Queen Galadriel · 7 February 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Oh, so very lovely! :) I love the loving concern the parents show their sons (that goes for parents-in-love as well, of course--I love that, so Hobbity). The incident with the gazing ball rings so true. Odd things will spark memories, even if they aren't necessarily absolutely traumatic ones (as Pippin's were), and the three remaining travellers' reactions to it were so in character. Oh, poor Aragorn, I don't blame him! My family tends to talk lightly about self defense (especially now that it's becoming increasingly important for me), but while I know sometimes we do what we have to do, the thought of really and truly hurting someone...I don't think I could. So like Aragorn to comfort his friend by telling of his own experiences. My favourite part of this has to be Elanor showing such complete trust, and Pippin, Sam, and Berevrion's playing with her. *grins* And the imagery at the end, of the shadows lifting with the return of the sun and the beautiful rainbow of promise is so perfect. God bless, Galadriel

Author's reply

I borrowed the phrase "parents-in-love" from another writer, and can't tell you now from whom, but it fit so very well. So many things can trigger memories, and am glad the incident of the gazing ball rings true for you. So, you are contemplating some training in self-defense? I hope this isn't part of why you've been a bit distracted, but believe you won't regret it. But certainly Aragorn must have felt the need to reassure some of his younger kinsmen by sharing his own experiences, as they now seek to do with Merry, Pippin, and Sam. And am so glad Elanor manages to steal the show as I'd intended; and all were ready for the end of the dreary days, I think. I know we could do with a real respite from all the rain we've known--my lawn is still soggy.

Bodkin · 1 February 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

The parents and parents'-in-law did a good job in bringing the three remaining Travellers together here. They needed the company - and then, taking them to meet the Rangers reminded them that there is more to the world than a rather parochial Shire. Lovely how the beautiful Elanor managed to bring about some comfort to all of them - and remind them why their victory was worth the sacrifice.

Author's reply

Yes, all those who stand as parents have learned better how to deal with Merry and Pippin and Sam right now, and now feel free to ask for reassurance and advice. And of course it's a child who helps them finally shake off the dreariness and put things in proper perspective--and what better child to do it than Elanor? Thanks so for reviewing, Bodkin.

Linda Hoyland · 1 February 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Poor Pippin to be reminded of the palantir like that.

Author's reply

Yes, it's strange what odd things can trigger memories at times. But at least he made it up to his mother, but made certain the new gazing ball wouldn't be confused with the palantir.

SlightlyTookish · 29 January 2007 · Chapter 1: A Matter of Record

How wonderful for the hobbits to see a bit of their history in Gondor! I'm so glad some of their children were there to share the experience with them.

Author's reply

Yes, they now have seen the document carving out this unique portion of Cardolan in Arnor for the habitation of Hobbits in particular. And Frodo-lad and young Faramir have been able to see it and will be able to tell their own children about it one day. So glad you liked it.

Armariel · 28 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Ohhhh love it!! *shivers with delight* Aragorn's story *sniff* and Baby Elanor *giggle* going to Berevrion (sp?) and him picking her up (how tiny she must seem to him! like a little baby doll eeeeee) and Sam giving her raspberries and Pip giving her horsy rides...and the rainbow! A lovely little piece. Whenever I see a gazing ball I think "palantir" too! lol Maybe I'll get me one soon, they have such pretty ones at a local store here....... ~~~{~@

Author's reply

Yes, a bit of Aragorn's own history slipped in here along with a realization acceptance is needed; and Elanor had to be an active part of the story--I found her stamping her golden-haired foot at me and pouting, demanding she be heard. I love giving babies raspberries, and suspect even lords among men and hobbits both would share that delight; and of course Pippin, now that the tension's broken along with the weather needs to be up and galumphing about to shake the willies out! And that rainbow was needed--the realization there is beauty to come out of this, and the rain will stop for a time till it's needed again, and that there's always hope and joy, if they're capable of reaching for it. I'd love a gazing ball, but need to get the garden into some kind of shape, first. I've had a finer crop of thistles than anything else; but as I'm not entertaining Eeyore I'm afraid I've just not appreciated them properly. Heh!

Baggins Babe · 28 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Another beautiful story, Larner. The Travellers must have had times like this, especially with Frodo's absence so keenly felt. I'm sure all soldiers have their moments when something triggers a memory. I loved little Elanor's trusting approach to Lord Berevrion, and how pleased he must have been to find this tiny hobbit lass demanding to be picked up. The Rangers had been regarded with suspicion for so long that it must have been quite a shock to be trusted by Lord Sam's little daughter. Good for Elanor - her father's daughter for sure. Loved the concern shown by the parents here, especially the Cottons. What a sensible family they are.

Author's reply

The first year especially must have been hard at times--I certainly agree there. And almost everone I've ever known who's had a traumatic memory seems to have at least moments when it all comes back on them. But the realization that their own children will be able to know a degree of trust and pleasant anticipation of new experiences must have been reassuring to everyone who fought the Shadow; and Elanor embodies that realization, as she becomes the very first child not born among the Dunedain warriors who approaches them openly. As for the Cottons--with Bell gone and the Gaffer partially invalided with arthritis and losing his hearing, I'd truly think the Cottons would take to parenting Sam when they felt he needed it. And as I've managed to leave Nick out of my other stories, I felt I needed to give him a showing of his own. Hope he doesn't mind!

Antane · 28 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

"The frogs have just begun truly waking up, and there was one outside my window croaking a couple nights ago, and I thought I could hear Frodo begging for help, or the way his breath caught there toward the last before Lord Elrond was able to remove the shard of the Morgul knife.” Sam was slower to relieve himself, but at last Berevrion’s patience was rewarded. “All the grey--it’s like we was there, goin’ through the blasted lands o’ Mordor again, sir. And all the rain is just a mockery of what water we couldn’t find then, if you understand. A bit o’ blue sky will show through for a moment, and it’s as if I see him openin’ his eyes, trustin’ me to get us on down the road a bit more afore he collapses again." And Pippin's reaction to the gazing ball and the reaction of Pippin and Merry to *those* rooms and not wanting to be around others, just each other at night. But good that their parents and Sam's Rose and in-laws (love that father-in-love) know to consult Middle-earth's equivalent to grief counselors and those who know how to deal with PTSD even if they don't. Namarie, God bless, Antane :)

Author's reply

I grew up on the remains of an old farm. The house was in the middle of the property, up on the one rise on the whole five acres, with ponds, swamps, and drainage ditches covering much of the land. The frogs will start waking usually in January for a day or two at a time, and by the time February is half through are very active. We had all varieties and sizes, from tiny tree frogs no larger than a fingernail to huge bullfrogs, and the croaks of each was quite individual. And the images the croaks can cause in that twilight time when one is not quite asleep and not quite awake can be interesting. So I tried to think of the kinds of memories such weather was likely to evoke in each of our lads, and then find an experience Aragorn himself would have been likely to have experienced that would help them accept their own attacks of the dismals weren't anywhere as unique as they might think--that even Men have their own memories that can haunt them. The description of inlaws as "father-in-love" came from someone else's story originally, but I think you know I've had all kinds of stories inspired by those told by others, as is true of all of us, I think. This is a bit of fanon I happen to like. To know they were responding to the depression appropriately was the important thing for all of them, I think; plus the realization it's not unusual or a sign of weakness. They're already learning how to deal with the memories and learning how to integrate the grief and joyful thoughts they hold toward Frodo. And they all needed a moment of literal horseplay and that rainbow, I thought. Thanks so much, Antane.

Andrea · 28 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Great story, Larner! It's good to see that Paladin and his wife have finally come to accept what Pippin went through, and that they are taking measures against it. It was a brilliant idea to come to Bree and look for Rangers. I like Berevrion. He found a way to assure our three travellers that their reactions were quite normal, taking into account what they experienced. And his story about Aragorn's first battle against man helped the hobbits a lot, I think. But the star of this story was undoubtedly little Elanor, fearless and trusting and happy. That's what they fought for and what will make them happy, too. Thank you very much, Larner :)

Author's reply

The older generation is getting a handle on what their sons experienced (or son-in-law, in the Cottons' case), and will do what is needed to try to understand more and help rather than hinder or suffocate. It was for the children, of course, that all fought in the end; and that they see the first signs that the new generation was able to live in trust from their earliest years must have been heartening to all who fought against Sauron and his realm and focus. This generation, at least, won't need to be tested to the breaking point from infancy, and men and hobbits both could rejoice in the fearlessness of Elanor. So glad you liked it. And thank you!

Pearl Took · 28 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

This is a wonderful story, Larner! Stories that I'm sure could be told by most every soldier. I love Pippin galloping off with Elanor!

Author's reply

Yes, most soldiers can relate to this situation, I think. And at that moment Pippin needs a bit of silliness, and who better to be silly with than little Elanor. Thanks for reviewing.

Kitty · 28 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Poor Pippin, after the horrible experience with the palantír the accident with his mother's gazing ball *had* to happen. I suppose I would be wary of all items even remotely like it after such an experience. It was good to see even Paladin and Eglantine have begun to understand and that all three older couples realised the three friends had to be together, even more so as it was the first year without Frodo. And it was a good idea to ride to Bree and look after the Rangers. Having been forced to fight for all their lives they can understand so much more than the other hobbits how it feels to live with these memories. It must have been a relief for the Travellers to realise even the warrior-trained Rangers - and even Aragorn - have their own nightmares. Loved it how trustingly Elanor approached the Ranger. It's truly a difference to the distrust most others have shown them for so long, and I am sure he enjoyed it.

Author's reply

To be going through a fit of doldrums in part brought on by ongoing nasty weather, then to find oneself facing a gazing ball almost just the size of a palantir would have been difficult, I think. Just the name would bring back the memory of the "seeing stone," don't you agree? The parents and the Cottons are becoming more savvy about how the Travelers need one another's understanding to get through the worse times; and indeed now, as all are still becoming used to not having Frodo there it is worse for all of them. Glad you agree they need the insight of the Rangers. The Rangers of Arnor deserve to be trusted and approached in friendship, and so Elanor starts with Berevrion. I'm certain he appreciated it. Thanks so for the response.

Linda Hoyland · 28 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

It must have been so hard for Merry and Pippin to deal with all they had wittnessed in a society that didn't understand.You make me see clearly why they maintained close links with their friends outside the Shire.

Author's reply

I'm glad I helped make this clearer, Linda. After all, the four Travellers did forge ties to the outside, with folk alongside whom they fought and hoped and labored; and I doubt those relationships would have been allowed to languish. And I love giving more emphasis to Aragorn's own kindred, who remain so anonymous in the books, save for Halbarad himself.

harrowcat · 28 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Now that is a true gem of a piece Larner. Loved it all. Reminds me of what you have Aragorn say in the King's Commission, (I think,) about balancing the hard and difficult with things that bring joy in life. And would that have been trolls arguing about the right way to cook thirteen dwarves and one hobbit? But, no, I think that there were only three of them weren't there? I haven't got time to check the book nor ponder on timing but it raised a grin! Got to run....

Author's reply

Aragorn comments in a both The King's Commission and Lesser Rings he must balance the griefs with the joys, IIRC; and he admits to Frodo and Sam he has his own memories and nightmares to fight in The Acceptable Sacrifice. Now they have the details of one of these memories, at least, and are able to better put their own experience with memories and their triggers into perspective. No, those weren't the ones arguing about how to cook dwarves and hobbits, for Eregiel is still in his twenties, after all. No, some unknown trolls, I fear. But I suspect trolls will grumble and argue among themselves solely because they are trolls, much as orcs will openly fight and kill one another because killing is part of their nature. Glad it raised a grin. Have a good week.

AspenJules · 27 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Wonderful glimpse, Larner. I love how all the parents realized the same thing - the need to get the three of them back together. And going out to talk to Rangers was such a good idea. It had to be helpful for the Three Travelers to hear that not only did the Rangers understand what they were going through, not only did they go through it as well, but the bravest, noblest and greatest in all the land, King Aragorn, still suffered his own difficulties. Oh, and Elanor going fearlessly up to the Ranger... absolutely heartwarming. I've got warm fuzzy chills *if that makes sense* all through me. Great job!

Author's reply

Yes, Paladin, Eglantine, Esmeralda, and Saradoc are now all on the same page, and recognize that now and then Merry needs Pippin and vice versa, while the Cottons are realizing the same for Sam. And to know that they aren't the only ones, and that Aragorn has his own triggers for the worst memories, is heartening. They know they aren't unique, that this is in its way normal, and can be effectively endured. Am so glad you like how Elanor approached Berevrion. She's not been raised to be afraid, and won't be needlessly so ever, I think Thanks so much for the response.

cookiefleck · 27 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

You always write very interesting post-quest hobbit stories. I enjoyed this one a lot. Thanks.

Author's reply

Thank you, Cookiefleck. I like considering what the various folk would have gone through in the aftermath of that great and cataclysmic war. Am so glad you find them interesting! Thanks again.

Dreamflower · 27 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

Yes, that first anniversary after Frodo left had to be so hard for them! I am glad that their families have finally begun to understand and accept their sons' memories. The idea of riding out to speak to the Rangers was a very good one--and the story of Aragorn's memory very touching.

Author's reply

It's the anniversary of when the war was raging. Merry became ill during the anniversary of their abortive attempt on Caradhras and their journey through Moria, and it's now three years since they parted near the Gap of Rohan, while Sam is remembering that horrid journey through the swamps and then the blasted lands outside and inside Mordor. To learn each other participant in the long battle against Sauron and his folk has his own cross of memories to bear assists them to realize they aren't alone, and increases their appreciation for what others accomplished and hopefully for what they themselves accomplished as well. And they certainly deserve that rainbow!

Grey Wonderer · 27 January 2007 · Chapter 2: Fighting Shadows with Light

I like the fact that the others shared the fact that they also had problems because of their own war experiences. No one could have been untouched by it all. And Dear Elanor!

Author's reply

Facing the horrors of war would leave them all scarred, each in his own way; and knowing they weren't the only ones must have helped Merry, Pippin, and Sam. As for Elanor--I had to make the Queen's future maid in waiting show her own mettle here! Heh!

Kitty · 8 November 2006 · Chapter 1: A Matter of Record

Larner, this is the perfect extension of the chapter in 'Stirring Rings'! It was so much fun that they discovered the reason for the seven witnesses and the signatures in red ink *snicker* No doubt they enjoyed this discovery as much as I did. And Aragorn had seven people looking over the translation and signing in red ink, as well *grin* How very thoughtful of him! Glad they shared this joke with Bard and Brendi. And somehow I suppose they will be reminded of this often, as they have to deal with a lot of documents ;) Thank you, that was truly fun!

Author's reply

Yes, that chapter definitely sparked this addition. And at least some within the Shire should appreciate how the requirement was the extension of a serendipitous moment way back before the Shire was even founded, and custom gained the force of law as it did. And although Bartolo's not likely to learn the reason behind the laughs for years yet, if at all, there are a few in the legal community within the Shire who will appreciate it. So glad you enjoyed it.

Linda Hoyland · 7 November 2006 · Chapter 1: A Matter of Record

An enjoyable tie in with your other story and as you know, your aragorn stories are always my favourites !

Author's reply

Yes--decided to do a second collection of stories where Aragorn's more likely to appear, although he won't always be the main fellow. And that chapter in Stirring Rings was begging for this, I found. Thanks!

grumpy · 5 November 2006 · Chapter 1: A Matter of Record

So that is how traditions are born, whatever is handy at the time, becomes set for in the future. But you have to admit, red ink would look more impressive.

Author's reply

Well, of course, Grumpy! And in this case the tradition became the required, of course! Heh!

harrowcat · 4 November 2006 · Chapter 1: A Matter of Record

Great and fun addition to our understanding of Hobbit history Larner. I am glad that our three travellers got to share the joke even if just a few others. Thanks for the prayers.

Author's reply

Yes, that last chapter to "Stirring Rings" sparked this one. And someone ought to appreciate the joke! Heh! Certainly Bartolo won't. So glad you liked it, and hope your mother does better.

SurgicalSteel · 4 November 2006 · Chapter 1: A Matter of Record

Sorry it took me a while - been busy with hospital/patient related things. So much to like about this chapter - Aragorn finally getting to act as ruler of his homeland, the fact that *Sam* seems to be the one who's completely in touch with when things happened historically, the realization that their own legal traditions were just a matter of happenstance, Sam (again! Smart, wise Sam!) realizing that Marcho and Blanco were Took ancestors... Just lovely! And I love the name for this (hopefully) soon to be collection, too.

Author's reply

Well, Sam WAS educated alongside Frodo by Bilbo, after all. Of course he'd figure it out! And all three of them would enjoy the joke, I think! As for Sam recognizing Marcho and Blanco were Took ancestors, well again, of course. You are right--smart, wise Samwise Gamgee, who as Aragorn noted ought to have been better named "Full-wise." And so glad you like this collection's name. Worked for two hours on the second offering for this collection to realize after the fact that the laptop decided to swallow it while I was checking dates in "The King's Commission." Gaack!