eiluj
· 19 April 2007
· Chapter 79: Return to the Ring of Doom
You might consider adding a note to explain Valanya, at least for people like me who miss the obvious with the first reading, or are more familiar with the Shire names for the days of the week -- then again, that’s not necessarily very many of your readers. [Yes, I figured it out, but it took awhile, and was my third explanation....]
Brave of Alassiel to go along.
I see you have had your revenge on Tinwetariel: she only receives the barest reference, and isn’t allowed (by the author) to speak!
Poor Ingwion.
Author's reply
I will take your suggestion and add a note. I'm sure I mentioned it in a previous chapter, but it was so long ago, even I can't remember which one!
Yes, I do get my revenge on that evil woman, don't I? *grin*
As for Ingwion... well, I devote several chapters on his plight alone, so we'll all find out what happens to him at Nienna's.
eiluj
· 19 April 2007
· Chapter 78: Consequences
Glorfindel blaming himself as usual.
Do you envision any of Fëanor’s followers having taken such oaths to him or his sons? I don’t remember if the Sil says anything about to what extent they “went native” in Middle-earth (dropped Quenya, etc.), but if they could have brought themselves to adopt any Sindarin customs, I think this one would have been useful to them. *shudder*
“A look in his eyes that any orc would have recognized as dangerous.”
That wasn’t the reaction I’d expected would happen as a result of Finrod’s anger.
I’ve been imagining Aldundil (eventually) as a guest lecturer in Lórien on the War of Wrath and various Sindarin customs....
Author's reply
I am not sure if any of Fëanor's followers, especially his sons, ever took such an oath. His sons, if anything, probably accepted such oaths from others, which is why they are able to do what they did in Doriath and at the Ethir Sirion, I suspect. And the original Oath of Fëanor doesn't help any.
The consequences of Finrod taking Aldundil's oath in anger would not follow expected patterns unfortunately and each person so effected would react differently as you see in this chapter.
Aldundil as a guest lecturer in Lórien... now that has possibilities. Down bunny, down! *lol*
Kitty
· 19 April 2007
· Chapter 79: Return to the Ring of Doom
Glad to be rid of Ingoldo and Tinwetariel. I’m not sure which time of the Second Age that is, but I hope they will have a very long time to stay in Formenos. Though I wonder a bit – is exile alone enough to get them to see reason, or will they only be even more embittered and resentful as they are now? Maybe they need something of an eye-opener ...
What an image – the Valar in all their glory with the sunset in the background ... very impressive. Though I doubt Ingoldo and his wife were able to enjoy it *grin*
Thinking about it ... Vorondil tending to the Reborn is rather ironic, at least at first sight. But he may learn very soon how wrong he was, and so it seems fitting.
And now I have an idea why only Glorfindel was sent back to Endórë and not Finrod, too. If that is continuing at this rate, imagine the large retinue of people Finrod would have, all sworn to his service and refusing to stay back ;-)
Author's reply
We are still early in the Second Age, not even past the first millennium, so Ingoldo and Tinwetariel's exile will last for well over 3000 years (the Second Age ended in the year 3434).
Glorfindel and Finrod in Endórë together!? I suspect half the reason Glorfindel was sent back to Endórë was to separate these two for a while or they might have ended up taking over the joint entirely! *lol*
Kitty
· 19 April 2007
· Chapter 78: Consequences
Oh Glorfindel! *shakes head* How can he think what Vorondil did was his fault? What he needs at the moment is a bit more self-assuredness. I’m glad he was not alone after all that but hat his friends around to comfort him and to convince him that *he* did nothing wrong.
Ingwë’s worry how these oaths could work out in the long run when the kings of Beleriand are released at last are understandable. It could have the consequences he feared, I suppose, but I certainly hope Finrod is right in this matter. Though I think now they will have to work towards more contacts and understanding between the different kinds of elves. That would prevent many problems in the future.
Somehow I found it touching that Arafinwë thought *he* was the coward for turning back. It can’t have been easy to do that. This ability to think himself at fault and to openly admit it, even if it may not be a failing at all, is a humility I’d want for many of our modern day rulers.
Oh Valar ... Aldundil lost control altogether, didn’t he? I’d never thought I’d say that, but now I feel nearly sorry for Vorondil. Nasty shock for him to be attacked by his own atar! It’s probably wise of Finrod to take him away to avoid more confrontations between father and son. And Glorfindel was really nice to Vorondil, considering what happened earlier. I have to admit, I could probably not be as generous as he was.
But I had to snicker at Finrod’s punishment for Aldundil. That was certainly not what the poor guy had expected. Interesting idea to force him to wear his warrior braids. It might encourage not only other elves from Endórë to do the same, but to finally get people to *talk* about the whole thing – the wars in Endórë, their experiences with it and the repercussions, about the problems of being reborn and all that. It’s rather obvious a lot of people need this.
Finrod was great through all this; he has matured considerably. The period of time he was released from Mandos earlier than Glorfindel and Sador gave him a certain advance in this. Though I am glad to know he still can act rather ‚elfling-ish’.
Author's reply
Glorfindel, of course, is still at that self-centered stage of adolescence that believes EVERYTHING is his fault. Luckily his gwedyr and the *real* adults around him are able to comfort him and give him more self-assurance, enough that he is able to deal with Vorondil with greater maturity than he might have otherwise.
Certainly Ingwë's fears over this particular oath are justified, but Finrod is probably correct in his estimation as to how the oath will effect relationships between the Beleriandic kings and their warriors and the Amaneldi and Ingwë's lordship over all the elves of Aman.
Arafinwë's feelings about the Rebellion are mixed given that all his children continued on. He no doubt feels he abandoned them at their hour of need, but Finrod is correct to point out that it took more courage to turn back than to go forward. Sometimes it's easier to turn from Mercy freely given than it is to accept it.
As Manwë warned Finrod, the manner in which he took Aldundil's oath might lead to unforeseen consequences and Aldundil's attack on Vorondil is one example of it. Finrod's punishments tend to be unique, as subsequent chapters will show. *grin* And while he has certainly matured and can rightly be said to be an adult in every sense of the word, he can still let his inner elfling out to play, especially with his gwedyr.
Bodkin
· 19 April 2007
· Chapter 79: Return to the Ring of Doom
I hope Ingoldo and Tinwetariel get some intensive ... counselling or something. Otherwise their views might have fossilised into even greater resentment by the end of the age. Formenos, after all, didn't do Feanor a great deal of good. And Morgoth came back from exile with a more honeyed tongue, but, if anything, worse than he'd been in the first place.
Lirulin, on the other hand, surely has an even greater reason to adjust to life - she is now Alassiel's only parent and she's just seen her grandparents penalised for their actions. The elleth needs support at this time!
So - these events are sorted out. But the greater problems still need tackling if the Blessed Realm is truly to be a place where the Peace of the Valar extends to the state of mind of the inhabitants.
Author's reply
I'm sure that the Maiar who have been assigned to guard Formenos will be doing more than just guarding. I have no doubt that they will be acting as counselors as well, in the hopes of rehabilitating the criminals. Of all those being sent to Formenos, Ingoldo, Tinwetariel and Tulcaner are perhaps the most dangerous and less likely to reform. Hopefully, the Valar have a plan for that.
You are correct that the greater problems still need tackling and we will see how that works out in subsequent chapters. This story ain't over yet!
Bodkin
· 19 April 2007
· Chapter 78: Consequences
I was pleased to see Finrod tell his father that he had been brave to go back! And that the Kings of Beleriand would accept Ingwe's authority - and be happy to find themselves forgiven and loved.
Finrod is definitely little more than a whisker from his grown-up self - but he's still happy to be entertaining the children! Like most big brothers, he can surrender to the inner elfling at need.
He dealt well with Aldundil and Vorondil - I can see that one becoming a devoted follower of Finrod, long beyond the bondsman status, and an admirer of the Balrog slayer despite himself.
Author's reply
Arafinwë probably felt that he had somehow betrayed his children by turning back when he did, little realizing that in doing so he had given his children permission to live their own lives and to carve out their own destinies. A difficult thing for any parent to do.
Finrod is indeed close to full adulthood emotionally, but has still retained much of the innocence he gained while in Mandos to allow him to "play" with his younger brothers. His maturity has allowed him to treat Aldundil and Vorondil with compassion after his previous anger. With love and care, Vorondil may well become a devoted follower of Finrod, perhaps even going so far as taking oath to him sometime in the future. Only time will tell.
Ellie
· 18 April 2007
· Chapter 79: Return to the Ring of Doom
Excellent resolution to the whole situation! Very intriguing. The might of the Valar was clearly not to be gainsaid in this. Finrod is very compassionate indeed in his treatment of Vorondil. Wonderful tale as always!
Author's reply
Thank you. The might of the Valar is indeed not to be gainsaid, or trifled with and Finrod is much too compassionate a person to hold a grudge against an elfling, which is what Vorondil still is, being only 44 years old.
Edlyn
· 18 April 2007
· Chapter 26: The Cost of Kingship
Reading about Finrod, Glorfindel and Laurendil tell Arafinwë and Rialcar about sleeping with weapons handy reminds me of talking to my friends who have just returned from Iraq. One of them said the hardest thing for him since his return is to drive a car and stay in the lane by the curb rather than going down the middle of the street. They had to do that in Iraq because of the risk of roadside bombs and he said that even though he knows there aren't any here it's incredibly hard for him to turn the steering wheel to the right to get in his proper lane. I had somewhat of the same issues when I returned home afer my 2 tours in the first Gulf War (and I never thought I'd ever have to specify which Gulf War I'm talking about and I wish I didn't have to).
"One has, my lord." Oops! Now the real reason for the embassy comes out and I'm not sure who is more nonplussed. The entire following sequence between Finrod and his gwedyr and Laurendil was incredibly moving. Finrod seems to remember more of what it is to be a king than he thinks he does. And this line said it all: "I already have your fealty, but more importantly, I already have your love, as you have mine. No other oaths are needed between us." So wise is Finrod Felagund!
And so is Sador, in spite of his relative youth and diffidence. "Out of the mouths of babes..." as my daernanneth used to say. Being one who stands back and observes he has a certainly pulled the truth of purpose of the embassy out in the open.
Finrod is definitely wise enough to know that he is not yet ready to take on the responsibilities of a full adult. the story of Gilanneth was sweet and humorous and made hte point very well, as did Finrod's and Glorfindel's descriptions of how they felt about what she did. And of course, Sador would want to swim in one of the fountains! There isn't a child anywhere who wouldn't be lured by the fun of doing so!
Laurendil gave Finrod a gift when he asked about what it was like to die, didn't he? Finrod's death (and Glorfindel's and Sador's as well) has always been the "mumak in the room." It's likely that Arafinwë and some few others might have wanted to ask Finrod but were afraid of what his answer would be. I suspect that Laurendil's actually coming out and asking did a lot towards validating Finrod's rebirth and continued existence in Finrod's mind.
It will be interesting to see how Finrod's continuing instances of putting on the "claok of kingship" as time goes on.
Great job, meldonya!
May you lived blessed,
Edlyn
Author's reply
At this point in time Finrod knows that he is not emotionally ready to take up the mantle of kingship again, though he must have been sorely tempted at that point to reclaim that part of himself right then and there.
The "mumak in the room" is definitely the stories of the Reborn that everyone is afraid to ask but all want to know: What did it feel like to die? This must be the most terrifying aspect about the Reborn for many of the Amaneldi and even for the elves of Endórë who saw so many of their fellow elves die, when death is not a natural aspect of their existence (not to mention the Secondborn for whom death *is* a natural aspect of their existence). Those who experienced death and re-embodiment must feel very out of place at times, unable to express their feelings about their experience because no one is willing to risk hearing the answers to their questions.
Laurendil's question is probably on everyone's mind, but only he has the courage to ask it, and I imagine that Finrod was almost grateful for him for asking however nonplused he might have felt at the unexpectedness of the question. We will see in the next few chapters how that question affects Finrod more deeply than he initially realizes.
Edlyn
· 18 April 2007
· Chapter 25: Feasts and Follies
Ah, this was such a FUN chapter to read!
First of all I am very proud of Amarië for holding her temper as well and for as long as she did. I've been an autocrat and hall steward for a couple of SCA events and can entirely sympathise with her. Well, I have to admit that I'm an SCA "Court junkie" and don't find such functions tedious, but then again, I don't have to do it "everyday", like she does!
It's tough enough when your plans for a small dinner party get overrun, but to have the same thing happen at a huge formal court feast... I'm betting the inside of Amarië's cheek is bruised from biting down on it and counting to 10 or 50 or whatever.
I'm sure that the elves of Tol Eressea know what protocol is...they just don't seem to put a lot stock in it!
I'm glad she went to Glorfindel for more information when her friend couldn't answer her questions. I can also understand why she focused on the fact that Sador can't wash his hair until the following evening. It was likely the one thing that was comprehensible to her out of the whole description of events. This really demonstrates the difference between life in Aman and in Endorë, doesn't it. No wonder there is such tension between those in Aman and those who remained in Middle-Earth, there is a positive chasm of non-understanding between the two groups because of the cultural differences that developed do to the groups' different experiences.
Bawdy songs at feast! Oh, reading about that brought back some very fun memories! At least they weren't sung at Court! The Elf and the Fruit Vendor! I can just imagine the words to that one! I laughed out loud when Sador announced that he knew verse 31. And I laughed even more at Finrod's description of hte first time he heard that verse!
And Amarië finally loses her temper and it's th best thing she could have done. "Finrod Felagund! You put your clothes on right now or so help me my next tapestry will show you in all your... your glory and I will hang it in the front portico of the palace for all of Tirion to see!" It's a good thing I was the only person in the office (every one else was at lunch while I litened for the phones) when I read that! (That reminds me of a rather--umm. explicit--painting on the front portico of a house I saw in Pompeii when I visited the ruins in the mid eighties; it's pretty much in the same vein as Amarië's threatened tapestry. I don't know who was more embarrassed in our tour group, the men or the women!)
Oh, the Kiss! that whole sequence was absolutely perfect, meldonya! It's quite obvious to me that the long-existing emotional chasm between Finrod and Amarië is being quite effectively bridged.
Then after all this wonderful goodness you give us the Valar listening to Olórin’s report of events and the surprising intelligence that our so-proper Varda is far more earthy than anyone excpected!
My face is hurting from the amount of smiling I'm doing but I don't mind at all. Thank you again, meldonya!
May you live blessed,
Edlyn
Author's reply
This was such a FUN chapter to write, too!
I wanted to show that Amarië was more or less a reformed elleth, but that she did have her limits. One would almost think that life had conspired to make this feast one that would test her resolve to "be good" and she must have thought that as the evening progressed and nothing seemed to go right, as far as she was concerned, though no one else seemed to feel that way. Her referring to Finrod by one of his Sindarin names shows how far she's actually come in her rehabilitation, which is what stuns and then delights Finrod, leading to the Kiss.
The "Elf and the Fruit Vendor" sequence with Finrod describing his reaction to the song the first time he heard it is my personal favorite. Hïs "I must have looked ridiculous" points to how unassuming and not "on his dignity" Finrod really is as a person, whatever his social standing. The fact that he is willing to share his experience with everyone shows that he is not afraid to look ridiculous before others either.
I imagine that many of the Amaneldi watching Finrod and Glorfindel strip were shocked to the core, but were even more shocked to see their king laughing at the ellyn's antics rather than becoming angry. Arafinwë is proving to be less of a stickler for protocol than many of his courtiers probably like. Too bad. Finrod, Glorfindel and Sador are probably the best thing to hit the Noldorin court in a long time, little though the Amaneldi appreciate it at this time.
The sequence on Taniquetil, I think, points to the fact that our perceptions of the Valar, individually and as a group, are probably dead wrong on many levels and we should not assume that just because they are spiritual creatures, they do not enjoy earthly pleasures or take delight in the earthiness of the Children. Varda's admission to being "fond" of verse 31 is an example of this.
Edlyn
· 18 April 2007
· Chapter 24: The Embassy from Tol Eressëa
So now we find out how the embassy is going to react to Sador's bloody hair (and the Amannildi to a lot of other things). I did take note that all the ellon in the embassy wore warrior braids, and am wondering if that is because only those ellyn who were warriors saw a need for this embassy, or if non-warrior ellyn were specifically left out of the embassy (which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense given it's stated purpose), or if the non-warrior ellyn of Tol Eressea saw no need to participate.
I cna't help wondering if there are some warrior-trained among the ellyth of the party. I know that Tolkien tended (with the possible exception of the Shieldmaidens of the Riddermearc) to show females as individuals to be protected rather than being protectors but given the way the times were during the days of darkness, it seems to me that women (whether Firstborn or Edain) may not have always had a choice to remain ignorant of warrior-skills. If there aren't I can see that they could quite easily be considerd the representatives of the non-warrior poluation of Tol Eressea.
And there goes protocol out the window! I can just imagine the horror of the Amannildi to see their King apparently spurned for his son. But given the situation and the relationship between Finrod and Laurendil and the emotions that obviously overwhelmed the ellon, any consideration of protocol flew right out of Laurendil's mind. Of course, I can also see that certain Valar may have simply inspired him to do as he did, or he may have already decided to purposefully approach Finrod before he even entered the Hall. In any case, it certainly woke up the Amannildi present to the fact that their Prince is much, much more than the diffident, emotional "elfling" he sometimes acts like since his return to Tirion. Whether this proves to be a good or bad thing remains to be seen.
I can just see Finrod putting on the "cloak of kingship" as he raises Laurendil up and then greets the others. It looks to me as though it still fits him quite well.
Knowing something intellectually is quite different from knowing it in one's heart, isn't it? I can certainly imagine that accepting the rebirth of someone has to be just as hard as accepting their death in the first place. It took me years to truly accept in my heart that my mother was dead and I'd never see her or speak to her or hear her voice in this world after her untimely passing nearly a decade ago. I still find myself wanting to pick up the telephone and call her to tell her something at times even today.
Oh, bless Finrod for knowing just what to say to let his Captain get himself back under control and to lighten the mood. The thought of Aurendil cutting up onions and Finrod wielding a peeler against a pile of carrots certainly made me laugh!
Time for Glorfindel to be faced with yet others who know what happened after his death and who know him from history and tales...he must be rather frustrated when he is looked on with such awe and doesn't really understand why. His reaction seems to be "I did what I had to do to fulfil my oath so what exactly is the big deal?" The fact that he handled the situation with as much grace as he did shows me that he is definitely continuing to "grow up" (though it's also obvious that he has a long way to go till he's finished doing so).
Then there's Sador, bless him, standing there quietly, happy for his gwedyr, not expecting to be included except perhaps as an observer. And then to have the truth of his actions in Doriath and Sirion made public... and he doesn't understand that no one is born a warrior but beomes one due to events and the choices one makes, whether after long thought or on the spur of the moment.
I think every soldier I know who has been in combat has told me the same thing Sador and Laurendil said in regards to the the first time they engaged an enemy at close quarters: "I just wanted him to go away."
It occurs to me that Sador might accept the appellation of "protector" better than he can accept the appellation of "warrior." The first has much more of a positive connotation than the latter (in English at least) and might not make him feel that the part of him that ran towards the attackers is quite so much an abberation (and, if it is as I suspect, what he considers an abomination in the deepest part of his mind and soul) of his personality.
I also appreciated that his gwedyr told him that they too failed in the end to save what they were protecting but that doesn't make what they did any less to the good. Then when Laurendil and ALL the other warriors became Sador's gwedyr, I admit I cried. It was such a moving thing to visualize in my mind as I read.
I know that Sador is going to take years, if not centuries, to come to terms with this aspect of his life but I think in time (and being an elf he'll have lots of it) he will accept that this is really only a part of who and what he really is. For who of any of us, is just one thing?
Oh, I can just hear the dry tone which Arafinwë must have been using when he finally spoke up: "Why do I get the feeling that I’ve just lost control of my own court?" I admit that line made me giggle out loud. Likewise his "Let us assume we have exchanged the proper greetings and protocol has been observed and move on." I bet that there have been many kings who would like to have done exactly that many times throughout the ages.
A most excellent chapter, meldonya. I'm only sorry that it took me so long to get this review typed up; my mind kept latching onto things I've read in various mythologies and classical literature and Arthurian legend and making too many connections to be at all coherent for some days. So I hope that this makes some sense at least. I look forward to seeing what happens next.
May you live blessed,
Edlyn
Author's reply
Most likely, the reason there are no non-warriors in the embassy is the fact that in Beleriandic society, the warrior caste was the most important one, with the most "power" after the kings, and for good reason, since they were charged with the protection of the elven kingdoms. I imagine that on some levels the elven societies of Beleriand can be liken to the early medieval societies of our own world, where there is a distinct warrior class to which one was born (the Samauri in Japan, for instance, or the ealdormen of Anglo-Saxon England). This class would be considered the appropriate class from which any embassies would be formed. Naturally, the elven societies were not as strict as our own, so that people could move up or down the social status ladder at will, but certainly, given the exigencies of life in Beleriand at the time, warriors would be seen as the natural leaders of any group of elves. The inclusion of the ellith would point to the fact that elven society would not necessarily dismiss the contributions of their females and the ones in the embassy most likely accompanied the ellyn because of Manwen. It would have been unseemly for even a married elleth to travel alone in the company of ellyn without the presence of other ellith. And these ellith are themselves the daughters of warriors and some may indeed have taken up sword or bow in defense of their people.
The Amaneldi at Arafinwë's court must have turned several shades of white when Laurendil ignored the Noldóran and went straight to Finrod. And then the respect accorded to both Glorfindel and Sador must have been the "final nail on the coffin" of their assumptions about these particular Reborn ellyn. I'm sure the events of the audience (and Sador's initiation) was a topic of discussion for days and weeks afterward among all those who witnessed it.
For many of the Amaneldi at court, this was probably the first time they had seen several of the Exilic Noldor and Sindar as a group. Some of the people watching all this may well have recognized some of the Exiles among the embassy personnel, and would have had to reconcile their memories of these people (who could well have been friends or relatives) with the rather barbaric looks of warrior braids and such with which they were now confronted and the way they acted towards the three Reborn ellyn. This must have been a shock to many who expected these Returnees to re-enter Amanian society as if nothing had happened to them in the meantime to change them (sometimes for the better, though the Amaneldi might not see it that way). The entire episode would have been an eye-opener on many levels.
At least Arafinwë is able to see the humor of it all and not take offense. Other, lesser kings would have been too affronted to accept that sometimes one's carefully planned-out protocols just are irrelevant to the situation and should be ignored.
Edlyn
· 17 April 2007
· Chapter 77: Trial's Ending
Good evening, meldonya!
I know that I am still trying to get the reviews on the previous chapters done and have a long way to go till I reach this one but I saw a quote today that brought to mind Lord Námo's words in this chapter: "Findaráto, and all who have died, including the Vanyar and Noldor who died in the War of Wrath, suffered Judgment. There is no escape from that. Faithful or no, Rebel or no, Judgment comes to all who enter Mandos. Eru decrees it and I see it done. Judgment most often is the most terrifying thing any face, but afterwards comes Forgiveness and Reconciliation and the Renewal of Hope. Love there is and Mercy and none who come before us come chained."
The quote is from Thorton Niven Wilder and goes as follows: "There is a land of the living and a land of the dead and the bridge is love, the only survival, the only meaning."
Anyway, I wanted to share that while it was fresh in my memory. I will do a proper review of this chapter once I work my way through the others.
May you lived blessed,
Edlyn
P.S. I just got "The Children of Hurin" this afternoon along with Brian Sibley and John Howe's "The Maps of Tolkien's Middle-Earth to add to my overflowing Tolkien bookshelf. I fear my living room is looking rather like Bilbo's study at Bag-End rather than Lord Elrond's library!
Author's reply
Thank you for the quote, Edlyn. I appreciate it. You will have to tell me how you like "The Children of Húrin" once you've read it. It will be a while before I can get ahold of a copy, hopefully when I come back to the States this summer in between teaching jobs. I look forward to a "proper" review whenever you can get around to it.
Rhyselle
· 15 April 2007
· Chapter 66: ...and Counterattack
I wondered how long it would take for Laurendil to arrive. At least we readers knew he would be getting there, unlike poor Netilmire. It is good to see Laurendil's taking command of the situation. After the more recent chapters showing him opening up to the healer within him, it gives us a glimpse of what he was like back Middle-earth when he served Finrod there as a warrior and battle leader.
Netilmire certainly won't take "no" for an answer when she wants to do something... Good for her insisting to be part of the rescue.
Ah, ha! So this was why the apparent throw-away comment in the last chapter about the fabric the braid was wrapped in seeming familiar. You're darn good at seeding clues. *grin*
Poor Sador... bad enough to wake up with a headache but to do so in complete darkness... Being blind is a terrifying thing whether elf or man, I think. I once said that I could learn to live with not being able to walk, as inconvenient as that would be, but to lose the use of my eyes and my hands would be devastating to me because most of the things that I do that makes me feel like a creative and contributing person come from what I see with my eyes and what I accomplish with my hands.
The sense of violation at the removal of his warrior braid makes sense to me. When I joined the Navy in my young adulthood, and they cut off my waistlength hair, I felt as if a part of my identity had been removed--even to this day my mental image of myself includes very long dark hair. I had agreed to the haircut, knowing when I volunteered that it would happen but it still felt horrible. How much more horrible to have the event happen without one's consent, without one's awareness, and then the realization that they could have carved away something much more vital than hair that will eventually grow back! The violation is worsened in Sador's case because of the meaning and price paid to wear the warrior's braids.
Ah, good... the Valar sent assistance; I wonder which Vala won the toss to send the Maia? Sador, like Glorfindel and Finrod, seems to have become a favorite of more than one of the Valar. :) I like it that Sador was active in his rescue, and I'm glad he remembered that piece of advice that Finrod had given him.
I did find it odd to that in Valinor that doors (like the one leading down into the fourth house that Sador crossed) would be locked... one tends to think of "Blessed Realms" as places where such things would not be necessary. But then again, one would not think that in such a place that there would be hate and spite and discord between the various groups of elves and between individuals, such as we've seen either.
When he recognized Laurendil, the sense of relief that I felt was amazing. Even though he'd already made the decision to jump, even if it meant breaking his neck, I just loved the trust that he put in Laurendil as he immediately obeyed the older elf's command to jump into his arms. My heart froze for a moment when he was grabbed and when that body went over the edge of the room, and then I was sooooo relieved that it was one of the bad guys! Again, Sador immediately obeyed the command to let go and drop and then it was over. I was not surprised to find Sador trying to staunch the arrow wound in his attacker's shoulder either.
Sador is a lovely, complex character, despite--or, perhaps, because of his youth. Caring, sympathetic, trusting, enthusiastic, mischievous, shy, self-effacing, loving... As much as I love Glorfindel and Finrod and would like to spend time with them, I think that I'd enjoy being with Sador more on a daily basis.
I think my favorite exchange of lines was this between Sador and Laurendil:
"... What happened to the other?"
"He’s dead."
Sador nodded. "Lord Námo’s problem now."
They are SOOOO matter of fact about it! LOL! But I certainly wouldn't want to be in that ellon's figurative shoes facing judgment!
The mop-up was a bit anti-climactic but satisfying, none-the-less.
The final scene when Sador was reunited with Netilmire and wept in her arms touched me... I wonder if he'll have nightmares about having thrown the one bad guy from the roof? It was inevitable, but I can't see him escaping the emotional backlash of having been an instrument of the guy's death--just as he had, while in Mandos, to come to terms with the fact that he'd killed Kinslayers who were threatening his family. But he's got Netilmire, and Laurendil to help him along this time. :) And I liked getting to see the reminder at the end of the chapter, that although Laurendil is still a warrior, he truly is becoming a healer too.
I hope this doesn't sound too disjointed; I keep getting interrupted by my own elflings! Excellent, exciting chapter, meldonya! :)
Author's reply
Laurendil may have hung up his sword, so to speak, but he will always be a warrior (he's much like Elrond in that respect), so taking charge when necessary would be natrual for him. Plus the fact that the elves on Tol Eressëa who know him would automatically accept his leadership, since the healer role is too new for them to know anything about and they would simply think him as a warrior and battle leader.
Sador would indeed feel violated but the exigencies of the present moment force him to push aside any feelings about it. We will see in subsequent chapters ust how well he handles (or doesn't handle) the aftereffects of the kidnapping.
Sador's attittude towards the dead ellon would probably be seen as callous by many, but it's a case of "been there, done that" for him. He, better than even Laurendil, knows precisely what is happening to the ellon at that moment and knows that how ever terrifying the ordeal might be, considering the nature of the ellon's death, ultimately, there will be healing. But you're right, *I* certainly wouldn't want to be in that ellon's figurative shoes facing Lord Námo!
The mop-up was a bit anti-climatic, but sometimes that's true in real life and it shows how inept these people really are, for anyone with brains would realize that the "jig was up" and flee. Instead, we see them hovering around and even dragging an innocent person into the mix. Luckily, Laurendil is wise enough to be able to sort it all out so that the guilty are taken and the innocent are let go.
I'm glad you like Sador so much. He's become one of my favorite characters, too. Pity Tolkien didn't come up with him first. *sigh*
Rhyselle
· 15 April 2007
· Chapter 65: Attack...
The opening conversation was interesting. Just enough hints of who was responsible to allow us to figure out, as events transpired, who was behind it... but not so much we couldn't be surprised by what happened.
Reading about Sador's and Gilvagor's failure to find out anything about Sador's family, it occurs to me that it is very easy to forget the sheer magnitude of destruction when Doriath fell because the description of it in THE SILMARILLION is still rather bare bones. It was a thriving kingdom, highly populated by that point, having had the protections it had all those centuries, and so when everything came apart, and the survivors fled to what scattered refuges they had left, and then the Kinslaying at the Havens of Sirion to follow... No wonder there are so many souls who no one knows anything about. I still like the idea that after the main mayhem of the moment is over, that one of our heros will come up with the thought that they need to take a census in order to assist those searching for their lost loved ones. (I've been doing too much family history lately! *grin*)
Sador gave a good account of himself in that alley. Despite being afraid, he didn't let the bad guys know it. Throwing the barrel lid and tipping out the oil was a great, spur-of-th-moment idea... too bad he couldn't dodge the guy at the end of the alley.
I cringed at Gilvagor's attitude toward's Orome's servant (nice description of the livery, BTW). And I liked Netilmire's attempt to smooth things over... A bit of contrast to her initial attitude towards the Powers when we first met her.
I do like the ever expanding web of elves to whom Glorfindel, Finrod and Sador are connected with. The sheer variety of people can only be helpful resources to all three of them in the future. I, of course, am optimisitic that they have a very long future ahead of them. *grin* Although, as an aside, I have wondered what would happen to an elf unfortunate enough to get killed a second time and end up back on Lord Namo's doorstep--would they be judged again, go through the healing of the fea once more, to be re-embodied yet again? Or would they be confined to Mandos until the renewing of Arda? Perhaps it would depend on the situation... Ah well, I suppose that Lord Namo will reveal this to you eventually should it be needed within this tale or another.
I don't want to ever feel what Netilmire must have been feeling when she saw Sador's braid in that box. *shudder* A parent's (and grandparent's) worst nightmare. "Valar help us" indeed!
On to the next chapter!
Author's reply
As Gilvagor said, there was so much destruction in the end that they may never know how many lives were lost, so it's no wonder that they are having difficulty in finding traces of Sador's family.
Gilvagor's attitude was a bit nervy, but given who he is and where he's from, it's not surprising. And I suspect that the Maia actually found his attitude amusing and refreshing. It must get wearying to have people be overly polite to you because you're one of the Powers or their Maiar servants.
It would be interesting to explore what might happen to a "repeater" who ends up on Námo's doorstep again. The embarrassment factor alone... *lol*
I don't ever want to feel what Netilmirë must have been feeling at the sight of Sador's braid either. *shudder* Just writing that scene raised the creep-factor for me.
OUCH!!! Can I come out from under the table now? A much-needed wakeup call for those elves that may have become a little too complacent? It doesn't pay to assume the Valar won't take them to task when necessary, even if they've been rather "quiet" in the past...Another excellent chapter!
BC
Author's reply
Yes, you can come out now, the coast is clear. *grin* The Amaneldi are beginning to realize that just because the Valar have been rather "quiet" in the past is no guarantee that they will stay that way in the future. The Valar's silence isn't necessarily a sign of approval on their part, merely a sign of their patience until they are ready to act. And when they act, they act decisively. Glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for your comments.
Kitty
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 77: Trial's Ending
I’m pleased Ingwë acknowledged Finrod’s greater experience with these matters and asked him to join him and Arafinwë.
the ones who did not die on the shores of Mistaringwë during the Battle-under-Stars or in any of the other battles fought across the face of Beleriand, the ones who were not enslaved by Morgoth to toil in darkness and despair? Those Faithful?" *snorts* What’s so faithful in that? The first two reasons, having rebelled against the Valar and taken part in the kinslaying, I can understand, but *that* is certainly no reason to think himself a better elf than the ones who fought the shadow for centuries and paid the ultimate price for it. And I was glad Finrod rubbed it in that seven of them attacked Glorfindel who had done nothing wrong.
But now I am wondering – if the Vanyar had been released before the Noldor, wouldn’t the Amaneldi think their kin had been rewarded and the Noldor punished this way and feel even more convinced that they are superior to the rebels? Could this be one of the reasons why Námo held the Vanyar back?
Do you realise this chapter is another reason why you have to write more about Ingoldo and Ingwion one day? I’m bursting with curiosity ;-)
Hm ... interesting. Very interesting. So Valandil thinks even Fëanor had more honour than these conspirators? Another blow to the pride of certain people. And farming is hard work – I think it will do the exiles some good to have to *work* with their own hands. Not to mention they will be guarded by Maiar – very intimidating for them and another hint for the others how seriously the Valar take their offense.
Oh, and have I to tell you how *very* satisfied I was with the harsh punishment for Ingoldo and Tinwetariel? They deserve it – after all, they did not only do something wrong themselves, but did lead young elves like Vorondil astray. And the prisoners have to go to Mandos after their exile? Well, that could be interesting ...
Thank you – that were some *very* intriguing chapters!
Author's reply
People who label themselves "good" on the basis of what they didn't do rather han what they did do usually end up being less good than those whom they have labeled "bad" on the same basis. Probably you are correct that the Valar would have seen that releasing the Vanyar and Noldor "faithful" first would have made things worse, not better, and elected to hold them back.
I may indeed write about Ingoldo and Ingwion some day... just as soon as one of the coughs up the story (though I would trust Ingwion's version over Ingoldo's any day of the week) *lol*
Comparing Fëanáro to these yahoos and declaring that the elves' favorite "villain" had more honor in his little finger than the whole lot of the conspirators put together would indeed by ego-deflating for some people, but also very true.
Kitty
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 76: An Interlude Among Kings
It is about time the Amaneldi learn more about the War of Wrath and what the elves of Endórë suffered. I’ve got more and more the impression that at least half of the problems are resulting out of their ignorance. Even Ingwë did not understand what happened between Finrod and Aldundil, and I’d expected him to be much more knowledgeable than the average elf. And if the Amaneldi who didn’t go with the host of the Valar to Beleriand don’t want to hear about this time, I fear it is necessary to tell them nonetheless. We’ve all seen what the outcome of their ignorance is.
Loved Manweë’s appearance and his demand of Finrod to do something he himself hasn’t figured out how to do yet *lol* Well, at least he lightened the mood and comforted the three Kings.
Author's reply
Since none of the Amaneldi who participated in the War of Wrath ever witnessed such an oath-taking, it's not odd that Ingwë would not understand what was going on between Finrod and Aldundil. Even Aldundil's knowledge up until this point was purely secondhand through his friendship with Laurendil, as evidenced by his attempt to "flee" from Finrod.
Manwë's wit and deprecating humor was just what the three Kings needed to diffuse a potentially explosive situation between them, especially given their familial relationship.
Kitty
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 75: A Surprising Turn of Events
Poor Ingwion – his accusation against the Valar came back to haunt him. Though I think after all that happened it was somehow understandable what he believed when Glorfindel vanished.
Aldundil’s reaction to the revelation of Vorondil’s actions was rather unexpected, but no less impressive. It took my breath away to see the drama unfold! You truly managed to make this another occasion one will not forget easily – and I think that goes for the elves as well as for your readers. And it served to convince many others that Finrod is a king in his own right and a force to be reckoned with.
Anyway, Aldundil showed the honour which in his son is missing so blatantly. I am truly glad about the way Finrod handled the situation – Aldundil didn’t deserve to die, and his son now has a lot of time to think about his misdeeds.
Author's reply
Aldundil's reaction was unexpected even to me! But Finrod's handling of the situation was not. It was what I would have expected from him, though obviously many who witnessed the scene were clueless. Even those who fought in the War of Wrath probably did not fully understand what was going on, since such an oath-taking was probably not witnessed by them. At the time, the only Beleriandic king who would have been alive at the time and aware of the oath would have been Gil-galad, and given his relative youth in comparison to someone like Arafinwë, the Amaneldi would probably have dismissed him somewhat out of hand.
We will see later to what extent Ingwion's accusation against the Valar effects him and his relationship with them.
Kitty
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 74: Trial's Beginning
That was a nice surprise - *four* new chapters and two days earlier than expected, too! Thank you!
Hm ... somehow I’m pleased Tinwetariel told Ingwë too much. And it’s not too bad that Aldundil got *this* impression of his son, either. But the boy seems to be in complete denial about his own role in the whole mess *sigh*
In spite of the seriousness of the situation, I was giggling about Tulkas’ and Námo’s exchanges about the bone-crushing embraces the former gave Glorfindel. It did a lot to lighten the mood. But I have to admit, I had truly hoped for Tulkas to show up at the trial and tell what happened at the Máhanaxar. His appearance was rather ... impressive :-)
Author's reply
You're welcome. I figured "Friday the 13th... hmmm.... this shoud brighten some people's day." *grin*
Tulkas is indeed rather impressive and his character is so much different from those of the other Valar. He's not too bright, but he's a faithful friend and handy to have around in a tight spot.
eiluj
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 77: Trial's Ending
How satisfying that these arrogant Vanyar and Amaneldi-hating elves of Endorë will have to learn to coexist in their years in Formenos.... And how useful for them to have a weaver and a smith present.
I’d thought we might return to the Máhanaxar.
Author's reply
Yes, it is a rather satisfying sort of justice to throw these two groups of agitators together and force them to live with one another.
eiluj
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 75: A Surprising Turn of Events
Aha! Yes, I’d wondered if Vorondil would end up in Lórien, but couldn’t see him being other than resentful and continuing to behave badly.... This might just do it.
By now those attending the trial are wondering why they ever wanted to.
Author's reply
Yes, I imagine that for many, this trial is turning out to be much more than they bargained for.
We will see in a few chapters from now what effect Lórien will have on Vorondil.
Edlyn
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 23: Initiation
Oops! My typoitis is so bad today that I just realized I ended up typing the word for 'my friend' in the feminine instead of the masculine in my review! Mea culpa! Am I forgiven, meldonya?
Edlyn
Author's reply
Hey, I've been called worse! *grin* You're forgiven (and that's five "Ataremma" and ten "Aia María"). But if you ever do it again... well, I understand Lord Námo does make house calls... *lol*
Edlyn
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 23: Initiation
I wonder what it was that Glorfindel was reading...Well, that's not surprising, as I wanted to know what book it was that Aragorn was reading in the sanctuary scene in the FOTR film, and what all the books in Elrond's library were (and I'd give almost anything to have that scriptorium!).
I can just imagine how spendid everyone looked in their finery as it was described and yes, "barbaric" is certainly a good adjective for Glorfindel in particular.
I think Sador uttered his challenge to his brothers on purpose. There is definitely a streak of mischief a mile wide in that young ellon. He could have very easily kept his mouth shut on teh matter of clothes and bets but he didn't. Given that he was the instigator of the prank with the bowl of water that morning that ended with Glorfindel chasing Finrod around the gardens, one really oughtn't to be surprised that he couldn't resist hte temptation to egg on the other two.
Oh, my! I can just see Sador's face when Finrod asks him where his warrior braids are. The confidence that had filled him when he was twitting his brothers seems to have run away like water down a drain. His protests are understandable, Sador's identity is a potter, the fact that he took the role of a warrior when need dictated is something he is still not comfortable with. Potters don't pick up swords, they are protected rather than being the protectors, and they don't fight and kill other elves. His identity is undergoing some adjustment given his new position as a Royal Ward and diplomat in training but the new pieces have not had time to become an fixed part of his identity and he's been actively denying the martial aspects of his life all along.
No wonder he can't believe what's happening when Glorfindel and Finrod are braiding his hair.
And the ceremony itself was wonderful. The simplicity of it actually makes it all the more powerful. It's not a ceremony that the Amannildi would have come up with, it is obviously a cerremony of a culture who lives with frequent war and battle. I am minded of the time I saw an on-the-spot knighting at a field battle. The ceremony was stripped to the minimal skeleton of the more typical knighting and ended up being one of the most powerful things I've ever observed in all my years of the SCA.
Why is it that I suspect that Eärwen has her ladies hemming an awful lot of handkerchiefs ever since Finrod returned home and and even more when Sador and Glorfindel joined the household?
It sounds like someone inspired Finrod to make the sigil e-hereg when he was Lorien. I know that the Valar don't prevent people from exercising free will and they don't force people to do things but I get the feeling that Somone inspired Finrod in the hopes that things would work out so that Sador would be initiated. Besides which, Sador more than deserves the recognition of his deeds after all this time.
Well, it should be interesting seeing the reaction of the embassy. Why do I get the feeling that Finrod knows more about hte reaction than he is letting on?
Well done, meldenya!
May you live blessed,
Edlyn
Author's reply
I had the same reaction to that scene in FOTR as you! I would love to know what Aragorn was reading. *grin*
I have no idea what Glorfindel was reading. For all I know it was the Amanian version of a Jackie Collins novel, and knowing Glorfindel, I wouldn't put it past him. *lol*
Sador does have a "mischievous little brother" streak in him, doesn't he? I'm sure he had lots of fun egging on his older brothers in that fashion and Finrod and Glorfindel equally enjoyed letting him.
Sador is reluctant to accept what he sees as an aberration to his character. He isn't a warrior and really has no desire to be one, yet, circumstances keep pushing him into that role. Notice that Lord Námo has to force the issue by telling Finrod and Glorfindel the truth about Sador's past because even with Lord Irmo's encouragement, Sador refused to reveal that aspect of himself to his "brothers". So, Fnrod's words are especially shocking for him because of their unexpectedness. He thought his "secret" safe.
Certainly Finrod was inspired to forge the sigil e-hereg, since, as far as he knew, there would be no need for such a ceremonial weapon in Aman. I'm glad you liked the ceremony. I had loads of fun designing it (especially the Sindarin and Quenya). I tried to imagine a ceremony that would necessarily be conducted "on the run" so to speak when warriors would be initiated in the field, so it would have to be "bare-bones" with minimal pomp. This, I think, makes it even more powerful when it is performed within a setting such as Arafinwë's throneroom.
I look forward to seeing your reaction to the Tol Eressëan embassy's reaction to all this. *grin*
eiluj
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 74: Trial's Beginning
Well, this is a surprise! [Checks date -- still Friday.] *Thank you!* Words cannot express how much I needed this before having to finish my taxes....
Four chapters! Normally I’d say I have died and gone to heaven, but somehow that doesn’t seem appropriate....
You’ve got to admit, those elves-on-the-street in Vanyamar have had a busy week, what with Ingoldo returning bound, Ingwë running through the city alone -- without regard for his High Kingly dignity -- to welcome Glorfindel, and then Arafinwë arriving as he had. The more astute of them must have been engaging in some serious speculation as to how all these events were connected, and those lucky enough to have tickets (as it were) to attend the trial would have been adjured to memorize the details and waste no time in revealing all to their friends. Yes, I think the word will get out.
Tulcaner captured: yes, I was silly to believe he might evade the Maiar looking for him, but I thought he’d want vengeance on somebody (most likely Glorfindel). But I suppose it’s still possible he could escape and wreak a bit more mayhem.
Oh my! (Námo's arrival.) I guess the Valar are taking this seriously.
"I’m wondering which of the Valar will show up next." -- And how many of them!
Author's reply
It has been a busy week for the Vanyar, hasn't it? *grin* I'm sure that the rumor mill wlll be grinding away for some time to come. Hopefully, those who are attending the trial will get the details right and spread the word to those who didn't see the trial so that the rumors will be quelled or at least corrected.
Bodkin
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 77: Trial's Ending
Much as I was delighted to see this - and I was delighted - I'm left thinking six chapters to review! And what chapters!
Aldundil has been ... very clever, in a way - and yet ... Well. It will do Vorondil good to learn the truth.
And the end of the trial - amongst the three Kings and the Valar, there's not much opportunity left for misunderstanding. (Although I think I might have to fight my irritation when the Valar reveal information as and when it suits them. Still, Glorfindel seems to have coped with the idea of the Valar letting him be bait. Beaten-up bait, at that.)
(I am sort of returning to my Finrod story. I hope it's not showing too much influence from yours. But I can't bring myself to stop reading to cut out any effects. I'm enjoying your story too much!)
Author's reply
Oh well... take your time reviewing; I'm not going anywhere. *lol*
We will see in subsequent chapters just how well Glorfindel deals with the idea of being "Valar-bait".
I hope you do continue with your Finrod story. There's no such thing as too many stories about Finrod. *grin*
Edlyn
· 13 April 2007
· Chapter 22: Bathtime and Bedtime Stories
I really dislike saying this meldonya, but after the last chapter, I felt a bit let down by this chapter. I hope I can find the words to explain why I feel this way. Technically, it's well written but it feels--the only word I can think of right now is "flat."
With the parallels of the experiences of the Reborn I guess I expected something more spiritually robust.
It is impossible to miss the connection to baptism and the renewal of baptismal vows inthis chapter but the effects on Netilmirë seemed far more physical than spiritual in spite of the transformation of the bathing chamber to the pond and back.
I think that is where my my problem lies. I see the transformation happening around Netilmirë, but not feel the transformation that is happening within her. Of course, this could be that I am re-reading the chapter after participating in an incredibly powerful Easter Vigil Mass where eleven people were baptized and the memory of that may be colouring my perception.
Perhaps it is that once Yavanna pushed her into the bathing chamber Netilmirë was left to herself. There was no one there to reflect the experience happening to her.
I did like the bedroom scene, the stuffed toys, and the fact that Netilmirë was easy enough with Aulë and Yavanna to tease them. The bit of reminiscience regarding their first meeting was lovely as was the inclusion of Netilmirë in the embrace of Eru at the end.
I'm sorry that I couldn't be more positive in this review. It's still a good story, and as I said above, I may reread this in a few weeks and feel differently when my own recent spiritual experience has faded in my memory a bit more.
May you live blessed,
Edlyn
Author's reply
I can understand your disappointment but I think you are bringing much into this chapter that I never intended, especially some of your assumptions, one being that this is a "baptism" scene, when it isn't; the other being that only ecstatic religious experiences matter (or at least, this is the impression from reading your review that I've gotten).
The clue to how to read this chapter is Netilmirë's sense of disorientation and disconnect between her hröa and her fëa when she wakes up. At this point she neither needs nor wants an ecstatic experience. What she needs is groundedness. She needs to reconnect with the divine, not through spiritual ecstasy but through physical actions. Her bath is just that, a bath. I could have just as easily had her washing dishes or hanging out the laundry. It is in the ordinariness of our everyday activities where most of us encounter the divine.
The Zen poet, Busho (I think that's his name), says it best:
Before Enlightenment: I chop wood, I draw water;
After Enlightenment: I chop wood, I draw water.
Netilmirë is in need of spiritual healing, not through the ecstatic, which is transitory because we can't exist forever on the heights, but through ordinary tasks, such as washing one's hair or taking a swim. The bathing pool expands to the pond simply because Netilmirë needs further physical movement to help integrate her fëa with her hröa, to achieve "at-one-ness" with the divine which manifests itself as much through the physical world as through the spiritual. For both Elves and Men, who must necessarily exist in both worlds, sometimes the physical avenues towards spiritual union is our only means, or at least, it's easier to access the spiritual through the physical.
And Netilmirë is not left entirely alone. Yavanna is still with her in spirit as evidenced by the fact that she speaks to her mind-to-mind and offers her approbation for her feelings, allowing Netilmirë the space (literally) that she needs to complete her healing.
I know that some of the most spiritually healing times for me have been at the end of a hectic or unpleasant day when I would draw a bath and just soak, consigning both the Past and the Future to their proper spheres and existing (even if it's only for 20 minutes) in the Now and therefore in the Presence of God Who Exists always in the Now. And I always seem to know when it's time for me to get out of the tub. It's as if something or someone tells me that it's time. Unfortunately, here in China, I don't have a tub so I cannot indulge in such things, but I do know how I've always felt afterwards and this is what I tried to convey, however poorly, in this chapter.
I don't know if any of this will help you to see this chapter differently, but hopefully it will offer you a different insight to the dynamics of spiritual healing (at least as I imagine it). Netilmirë's case is different, necessarily, from that of the Reborn, and as it is not Lord Námo who is effecting the healing (even though he helps make it possible), then the nature of that healing will not follow the usual pattern seen with the Reborn. And given that the Valar involved (Aulë and Yavanna) are "earth-centered", then it stands to reason that their methods of effecting Netilmirë's healing will involve the physical (bathing, swimming, the bedroom scene) rather than the spiritual.
Hmmm... I think, for once, I've written a reply that's longer than your review. *grin*