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The Wars of the Valar  by Fiondil 10 Review(s)
70uHGYE8TVVOReviewed Chapter: 7 on 11/26/2015
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TariReviewed Chapter: 7 on 7/9/2008
So Námo likes to make order out of chaos does he. I should have him straighten out my house for me. I have too much to do and not enough time to do it in.

So, there really is such a thing as Brown Dwarves. At first I thought it was just a take on Aule’s dwarves, but of course they hadn’t been created yet so that would be impossible.

Tari

Author Reply: I don't think Námo makes housecalls. *lol* I have tried to keep the science (or at least the astronomy) as accurate as possible, so yes, brown dwarves do indeed exist.

KittyReviewed Chapter: 7 on 12/9/2007
Love these insights into Námo’s character. This young Námo, sometimes so unsure of himself, is truly quite a difference to the sometimes rather intimidating Lord of Mandos, but it will be interesting to see a bit of his development.

Just consulted my lexicon and realised who Aulendil is – or will become. Didn't know this one name, even if I had the feeling to have seen it somewhere. Oh yes, no doubt he’s working for Melkor and trying to corrupt poor Melyanna. I am glad the others realised soon enough and Námo was able to help her.


Author Reply: We see glimpses of not only what Námo will eventually become, but all the Valar in this tale. They are all "young" at this point in time and have much to learn about themselves and each other.

Somewhere in the Silmarillion, it states that Melian never trusted Sauron, and I figured this was the seed of that distruct here, and, of course, Sauron wasn't called Sauron in the beginning, so I had to use one of his other names. I figured Aulendil would be more appropriate for this time period than any of the other names he used during the Second Age.

ImhirielReviewed Chapter: 7 on 9/30/2007
So it was decided, little realizing that their measures were already too little and too late.

Uh-oh... evil Fiondil, for making it even more suspenseful with ominous foreshadowing *g*!

While he rejoiced in the anarchical freedom which Chaos evoked in him, even better was the pleasure he felt when he invoked the more particular freedom of Right Order, with its boundaries and limitations. Chaos for the sake of chaos did not attract him. It was drawing Order from Chaos that gave him special delight. Chaos had its place in the greater scheme of things, but it could not dominate. Chaos was the servant of Order, not its master and Námo was the Lord of Order-Out-of-Chaos to which Order would eventually devolve, for Eä was not the Timeless Halls. Eventually all would come to an end and then there would be a New Beginning.

I love this paragraph, so I had to quote it in its entirety. It says so much about Námo, his abilities and values and attitudes.

They ended up becoming what Aulë, in a fit of rare snideness, called brown dwarfs. Varda was both upset and embarrassed and threatened to do things to Aulë’s aura that would turn him into a brown dwarf.

Lol! Oh, I love your Aulë! And Varda's rejoinder was equally priceless!

...but thank you for the complement anyway.

Correction: it's "compliment".

Aulendil's lies and insinuations towards Melyanna's are a wonderful explanation for Melian's attitude later on towards Sauron.

The declaration that song and dance are somehow more worthless and less useful than more "hands-on" work is a thought that reminds me of some of Marnie's stories, for example "Handmaiden of Lorien". She also emphasises the fact that Melian's and Lúthien's gifts of singing and dancing (and IIRC, also Arwen's gift of weaving) were as worthy and admirable as being able to fight or being a smith.

Námo fully came into himself here in his role as comforter. He is way more wise and competent than he gives himself credit for. I think part of the problem is that he is, literally, too self-conscious. If he doesn't think too long about what he should do, he manages perfectly well.

Author Reply: Thanks for the correction. My spellcheker of course can't read English so it didn't know the difference. LOL

Námo and Melkor are very much alike, except in this way: Melkor rejoices in Chaos of the sake of chaos, while Námo prefers Order-out-of-Chaos, so that Chaos has a legitimate role to play but not to the detriment of all else, which is Right Order.

I can just see Manwë holding Varda back as she makes her threats to Aulë. LOL Like I said, they're adolescents here and react accordingly.

Our society often disparages what it considers useless occupations because they aren't prestigious or they don't make a lot of money. I presently teach English at a vocational school here in China and it's only been in recent years that vocational schools have been seen as "honorable" alternatives to going to university. So many parents wanted their children to attend university and disparaged lesser schools, but not everyone is equipped for the rigours of university study. We still need our plumbers and electiricians ans so forth and they should be seen as being as honorable a profession as being a doctor or teacher. Even so, many students still talk about the disappointment their parents feel towards them, which is really sad.

You're right about Námo being a bit too self-conscious of himself. I think that is a product of his gifts, setting him apart, even from his own brother, in that regard. Eventually, though, he will come to accept that part of himself and be less self-conscious about it.

Nieriel RainaReviewed Chapter: 7 on 9/2/2007
This was a fantastic chapter! I just love seeing Námo grow, and it was nice to see him learn this about himself! It was good to see Irmo as well, and the young love in the form of an understanding. *grin* One question though, is Melyanna, Melian? I loved Námo's handling of the situation. Very nice!

NiRi

Author Reply: Yes, Melyanna is the Quenya version of Melian. The name means "beloved gift". I'm glad you liked this chapter. Námo is slowly taking ownership of his role in Eru's plans for Arda, though probably it's a case of 2 steps forward and 1 step back at the moment.

Agape4GondorReviewed Chapter: 7 on 8/29/2007
I thought I'd try to read this at work during a break, but found it too full, as usual!

Another excellent chapter. I love the foreshadowing of Namo's 'real' job... I liked his relationship with Irmo... I love his relationship with Iluvatar!

I very much enjoyed the 'brown dwarves'.... poor Varda!



Author Reply: Hi Agape! Glad you enjoyed this chapter. Poor Varda indeed, but there's a learning curve with all the Ayanumuz (and Máyar). I'm sure they didn't just "know" how do to everything right the first time. As created beings, they would have had to learn and grow (we see that in the Ainulindalë where Eru Ilúvatar allows them to explore and experiment with the Song before bringing them all together for the Great Music).

I think Námo and Irmo's relationship is somewhat unique among the Ayanumuz and hope to explore it further in this story, as well as Námo's relationship with Ilúvatar.

ElentarriReviewed Chapter: 7 on 8/29/2007
Hi.

This is a really original and amazing concept / idea. I really love it. Well done. Your writing style and characterisation is also very good. A well written story. Please continue with this and your other Thorongil story :-)

Best wishes

Author Reply: Hi Elentarri! Thanks or your good wishes. I'm glad you are enjoying this story as well as the THorongil one. I have every intention of continuing this story. It certainly isn't anywhere near completion so you should have a nice long time to enjoy it.

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 7 on 8/28/2007
I love that Aule named the "brown dwarfs"--he who in time created the Dwarves of Arda and who cherished them so. And that the Ainur and Valar had to be ordered from time to time to go off and take rest and play that their work not destroy them is wonderful. And we see more of the early days of Melian and Sauron--Sauron was such a--an unprintable word! Jerk!

And Namo and Irmo working together to help others come back to Eru is wonderful! Two of healing here.

Author Reply: Well, even the best of us need a break now and then, and the Valar and Maiar are no different. *grin*

Somewhere in Tolkien's writings he mentions that Melian never trusted Sauron even before he became Sauron and so we see the beginnings of that mistrust here. And yes, he is an unprintable jerk

Aulë naming the brown dwarfs just seeemed natural, though there was no pun intended. *grin*

We'll see more of how Námo and Irmo work together for healing in later chapters.


Raksha The DemonReviewed Chapter: 7 on 8/28/2007
I can't remember exactly who Aulendil is - Sauron, or Saruman?

I assume that Melyanna will also be one day known as Melian.

Good chapter; this is such an original piece in Tolkien fanfic.

Author Reply: Aulendil will one day become Sauron. Saruman was known as Curumo before he came to Middle-earth. Melyanna is merely the Quenya form of the Sindarin Melian.

Glad you liked the chapter.

RadbooksReviewed Chapter: 7 on 8/28/2007
Ah, Namo love! :) What a wonderful chapter. I love the image of Namo and Irmo 'casually' moving stars and planets as they have a serious discussion about Melyanna. And then going off for a 'swim' in a star!

I enjoyed the flashback scene because while I've of course always known that Irmo and Namo are close, it's nice to see some of the reasons behind that closeness and how they complement each other.

It must have been a little bit scary for Namo to open himself up to Ilúvatar and then to discover that gift he'd been given would have been shocking. Also, was that the first any of the Valar had heard of the Mortal children? His compassion and love for Melyanna was so wonderful. I know that so often people in this life have been given wonderful gifts and they are discouraged from using them because they aren't considered 'practical'. Evidently we need Namo around to set them straight! :) Well, we need people that can see the truth like you've written and encourage people not to set aside the gifts they have! Anyway, I was so glad that he was able to help her see the truth. It's not only going to help her, but it's also going to help him because it's going to let him see his gifts in a true light.

Thanks for sharing this and I'm looking forward to the next chapter.

Author Reply: I modeled this chapter, or at least the beginning part of it with Námo and Irmo, on "workmen" the world over, who carry out their jobs while discussing wife and kids and the latest football scores, except these "workmen" are shifting stars and dark matter and "fixing" the universe rather than doing maintenance on a computer or cleaning the floors and then stopping for a pint afterwards. *lol*

I think the Valar knew about both the elves and mortals before this though theír knowledge of them would necessarily be sketchy at this point in time. They really only know that they are charged with creating Arda for their habitation and that the elves will be immortal and reside within the bounds of Arda while the Secondborn will be mortal and leave the Circles of the World in due time.

Not only gifts can be deemed "impractical" but dreams and ambitions as well. We are often told that we can't do this or that because of these particular reasons (usually having to do with money). As a collge student exploring new vistas and possibilities for my future I was actively discouraged by my family from pursuing certain fields of interest because they were deemed (by them) as not "practical", i.e., I wouldn't make a lot of money, as if money was the only thing that was important. Unfortunately, I didn't have someone like Námo to encourage me to follow my dreams however impractical they might have seemed and so many opportunities for a fulfilling life were lost.

That being said, I have of course managed to pursue something of my earlier dreams, living here in China and teaching English, but I often wonder what my life would have been like had I been allowed to pursue my dreams at that time. I often wonder if it would have been better or at least more interesting than what my life as been. I'll never know, of course. At least I've been given the opportunity (however late in the day it might be) to "follow my bliss" as Joseph Campbell would say and that has to count for somethig. But still, I do wonder....

Anyway, enough about me... I'm glad you enjoyed this chapter. We will be seeing Námo and Irmo working more closely together in subsequent chapters.

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